I just recieved my Direto X couple of days ago, and already tried it with Rouvy. Awesome, just awesome! Probably is the best mid-range smart-trainer! And the best part is that I ordered it from a German online store, and before sending it outside the EU, the Germans excluded from the price a 19% sales tax, which is valid only within Europe. Thus, instead of the recommended retail price of 899$, I paid only 587,40€ for the trainer itself and 39.95€ for the delivery of massive 20 kg box to Russia. As you understand 627.35€ is about 695$, which is not 899$ at all. Long live the European Tax Code!
I had the original Direto and loved it, no issues and just works. Smooth and not noisy, the feel is the same as my Neo 2T. the Direto is reliabile, unlike kickr and Neo (my first gen ant+ meter died and had to return it). Don’t worry about momentum and max power, you won’t get to these limits unless your an amateur or pro. It’s fine, Elite makes great products, I also have the Elite wheel on Trainers, they are bomb proof too.
I don't think resistance floor is momentum problem. It's caused by minimal passive resistance on given flywheel speed. Direto and many other trainers with magnet based resistance (Flux etc.) simply doesn't have "zero resistance" mode. The higher is speed the higher is minimal resistance. To be more precise, in case of Direto the magents can't be moved far enough from the aluminum disc (on which eddy currents are produced to create resistance).
A really short and comprehensive review. Nice pointing out the limitations so customers really know what they get and what to expect. Thanx @smartbiketrainers
Great review, got a Direto x myself. I would have added a summary/ conclusion at the end of the video. It kind of ended in nothing now. Should someone buy it or not?
Appreciate the feedback. Looking at it now, I somehow missed adding my conclusion. I think maybe I thought I sort of gave that during the middle of the video right when I started talking about the accuracy part. But I will keep that in mind next time. Thank you 🙏
@@SmartBikeTrainers You did indeed give some sort of conclusion during the video. I noticed how you lost track halfway through. Still a great video though and I surely appreciate the effort. Not many video's on the Direto X on CZcams. Makes me happy to see somebody reviewing this great product. Keep making videos, I enjoy them!
Hi, Great video review. Would you say this is more responsive (less lag) than the original Direto to gradient changes in Zwift Titans Grove using simulation mode (not ERG). And also how does it compare with Suito to responsiveness to quick gradient changes. Trying to decide between these three Elite trainers!
Hard to tell in sim mode because it depends on other factors than the trainer itself such as Zwift itself or WiFi connection. So your experience can be different than mine. But from my own experience, it responded very well in Titans Gove all the way up to the tower. I haven’t been on a Suito yet so can’t compare the two.
Hi, I'm an MTB'er looking for my first smart trainer for winter miles an wieght loss then, Maybe some more intense training later.... Would you say this is a good model for me as an MTB'er? I've looked around the internetz an all I can find is road reviews. Also what app would you recomend for MTB? again, all I can find is road orientated. Many Thanx
Hi Tariq. Wonderful video with lots of information. Im new in the world of indoor cycling and excited to purchase my first trainer. I have been doing research and watching a ton of comparisons so far. I’d like to know if there has been major technology advancements in the directo X and the current XR-T models? This is because im getting a discounted price on a new (old stock) directo X and leaning towards purchasing it. Also let me know if purchasing the current generation Suito-T for around the same price is better. Thanks!
Not much changed from the Direto X to the XR so if you are getting a good price on it, go for it. Definitely go with the Direto X over the Suito if price is the same. Hope that helps!
When I tried the Neo2, I noticed a lot of slipping when suddenly pushing it, not even that hard actually. The store manager told me that all the Taxc's have that same issue. I didn't like it and I felt like it shouldn't be the case in a product this expensive. In that price range you could also look at de Drivo. Don't have any experience with that though. I feel like the Direto X is currently their best selling product, for a good reason. Bang for the buck. I abuse mine with pushing up to 1300 watts and it doesn't complain for one second.
Nice review, i have one on order, coming next week, i have a question, i have a garmin heart rate monitor, that is using ant+, can i connect this directly to the trainer, or do i need to get a ant+ usb dongle to get my h-rate into zwift?
You need to connect the HR monitor directly to Zwift. So yes, you can either get a Bluetooth heart rate monitor or ant+ USB key and plug it into your laptop and connect using Ant+.
Hi my unit arrived today. I was hoping you could answer a question I have regarding set up. I did the upgrado app to make sure I have the latest firmware. I then went to the other app and during the configuration it asks if you have additional sensors: power and cadence. I have a Stages power meter. Do you recommend I add it or not? What are the pros/cons. Thanks in advance.
Great thanks. Heading outdoors for a ride then going to take the maiden voyage later this evening. Thanks for your videos. I used them quite a bit in my purchasing decision.
Instead of using zwift,I'm struggling to use my wahoo (headunit) an direto x together,the stats are shockingly high (mph is saying above 100+) meaning mileage is through the roof.i want to use both without zwift is it impossible?
I am also interested in this point. I am hoping it has less lag that original Direto. If not may have to go for Drivo 2 which apparently is 3 times faster as responding to gradient changes than the original Drivo.
You are wrong. I've just bought Direto X at bike-components.com few days ago. No problems with delivery or customs. Почему не для России? В чем проблема? Неделю назад ко мне приехал Дирето Х с байк-компонентс. Совершенно никаких проблем с доставкой и растаможкой.
@@sergeyshorokhov2167 я летом заказал elite direto + с того же сайта, таможня развернула посылку. В документации не было указано какими параметрами обладает станок для беспроводной связи.
I just recieved my Direto X couple of days ago, and already tried it with Rouvy. Awesome, just awesome! Probably is the best mid-range smart-trainer!
And the best part is that I ordered it from a German online store, and before sending it outside the EU, the Germans excluded from the price a 19% sales tax, which is valid only within Europe. Thus, instead of the recommended retail price of 899$, I paid only 587,40€ for the trainer itself and 39.95€ for the delivery of massive 20 kg box to Russia.
As you understand 627.35€ is about 695$, which is not 899$ at all.
Long live the European Tax Code!
:D have fun with it! greetings from the EU ;-)
Which store is that?
@@sloikalamos bike-components
Assuming the flywheel won't have future problems, this is the best value for money trainer in the market. Hands down!! The best.
I had the original Direto and loved it, no issues and just works. Smooth and not noisy, the feel is the same as my Neo 2T. the Direto is reliabile, unlike kickr and Neo (my first gen ant+ meter died and had to return it). Don’t worry about momentum and max power, you won’t get to these limits unless your an amateur or pro. It’s fine, Elite makes great products, I also have the Elite wheel on Trainers, they are bomb proof too.
I don't think resistance floor is momentum problem. It's caused by minimal passive resistance on given flywheel speed. Direto and many other trainers with magnet based resistance (Flux etc.) simply doesn't have "zero resistance" mode. The higher is speed the higher is minimal resistance. To be more precise, in case of Direto the magents can't be moved far enough from the aluminum disc (on which eddy currents are produced to create resistance).
A really short and comprehensive review. Nice pointing out the limitations so customers really know what they get and what to expect. Thanx @smartbiketrainers
Glad it was helpful!
great review .. I'm still on the version 1 direto and still loving it
Great review, got a Direto x myself. I would have added a summary/ conclusion at the end of the video. It kind of ended in nothing now. Should someone buy it or not?
Appreciate the feedback. Looking at it now, I somehow missed adding my conclusion. I think maybe I thought I sort of gave that during the middle of the video right when I started talking about the accuracy part. But I will keep that in mind next time. Thank you 🙏
@@SmartBikeTrainers You did indeed give some sort of conclusion during the video. I noticed how you lost track halfway through. Still a great video though and I surely appreciate the effort. Not many video's on the Direto X on CZcams. Makes me happy to see somebody reviewing this great product. Keep making videos, I enjoy them!
Thanks for the video. Just ordered one for $600. I'm hoping that ends up being a great value on this smart trainer.
That’s a killer price. Enjoy your new trainer.
Hi, Great video review. Would you say this is more responsive (less lag) than the original Direto to gradient changes in Zwift Titans Grove using simulation mode (not ERG). And also how does it compare with Suito to responsiveness to quick gradient changes. Trying to decide between these three Elite trainers!
Hard to tell in sim mode because it depends on other factors than the trainer itself such as Zwift itself or WiFi connection. So your experience can be different than mine. But from my own experience, it responded very well in Titans Gove all the way up to the tower. I haven’t been on a Suito yet so can’t compare the two.
Question 4 U . Do Elite manufacture a Trainer 4 12 speed . Thx
Hoping that there 2nd best indoor trainer does . Robert Australia 🇦🇺
Hi, I'm an MTB'er looking for my first smart trainer for winter miles an wieght loss then, Maybe some more intense training later.... Would you say this is a good model for me as an MTB'er? I've looked around the internetz an all I can find is road reviews. Also what app would you recomend for MTB? again, all I can find is road orientated.
Many Thanx
Hi Tariq. Wonderful video with lots of information. Im new in the world of indoor cycling and excited to purchase my first trainer. I have been doing research and watching a ton of comparisons so far. I’d like to know if there has been major technology advancements in the directo X and the current XR-T models? This is because im getting a discounted price on a new (old stock) directo X and leaning towards purchasing it. Also let me know if purchasing the current generation Suito-T for around the same price is better. Thanks!
Not much changed from the Direto X to the XR so if you are getting a good price on it, go for it. Definitely go with the Direto X over the Suito if price is the same. Hope that helps!
Great and efficient review. Compared to TACX Neo2, what’s the ride feel ? It doesn’t have any lateral flex as the Neo right ?
No it doesn’t have a lateral flex to it. The Neo is at a different level though and road feel is a bit better with the Neo.
When I tried the Neo2, I noticed a lot of slipping when suddenly pushing it, not even that hard actually. The store manager told me that all the Taxc's have that same issue. I didn't like it and I felt like it shouldn't be the case in a product this expensive. In that price range you could also look at de Drivo. Don't have any experience with that though. I feel like the Direto X is currently their best selling product, for a good reason. Bang for the buck. I abuse mine with pushing up to 1300 watts and it doesn't complain for one second.
Thanks
My Tacx Neo 2 have a capacitor cadence sensor!
Hi, can you do a review of elite suito smart trainer? Thanks.
hi, 2 years later.. did it break?
Taking notes 📝
Nice review, i have one on order, coming next week, i have a question, i have a garmin heart rate monitor, that is using ant+, can i connect this directly to the trainer, or do i need to get a ant+ usb dongle to get my h-rate into zwift?
You need to connect the HR monitor directly to Zwift. So yes, you can either get a Bluetooth heart rate monitor or ant+ USB key and plug it into your laptop and connect using Ant+.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thanks alot for the answer :)
Hi my unit arrived today. I was hoping you could answer a question I have regarding set up. I did the upgrado app to make sure I have the latest firmware. I then went to the other app and during the configuration it asks if you have additional sensors: power and cadence. I have a Stages power meter. Do you recommend I add it or not? What are the pros/cons. Thanks in advance.
I wouldn’t add it. Just pair the Direto and that’s all you need.
Great thanks. Heading outdoors for a ride then going to take the maiden voyage later this evening. Thanks for your videos. I used them quite a bit in my purchasing decision.
Nice. Oh sh*t, you have a good deal on the Saris H3 ! but I live in Europe, so not available here '-(
Yes, it’s 20% off right now :)
Luffy!
@@SmartBikeTrainers you should add Philippones om shipping list
What the difference between this and elite direto ?? Without x
More power. This one can handle up to 2100 watts. Old one up to 1400. 4% more slope and have better accuracy (.5%).
SMART Bike Trainers so for me as a begginer tou recommend this or go for directo 2018 model ?
Depends if you can find a decent deal on the 2018 model. Other wise I would go with this one.
Instead of using zwift,I'm struggling to use my wahoo (headunit) an direto x together,the stats are shockingly high (mph is saying above 100+) meaning mileage is through the roof.i want to use both without zwift is it impossible?
Sounds like the wheel circumference is set wrong on the Direto which you should be able to adjust in the Elite mytraining app.
@@SmartBikeTrainers thanks for the response,I can access the wheel circumference but I can't manually change the point ie 0.173 it comes in 0173
3 seconds to change erg mode seems quite slow - does it lag in sim mode? i have i drivo and that is really slow to adapt to gradient changes
I am also interested in this point. I am hoping it has less lag that original Direto. If not may have to go for Drivo 2 which apparently is 3 times faster as responding to gradient changes than the original Drivo.
direto no for Russia
That’s a bummer. Sorry to hear that!
You are wrong. I've just bought Direto X at bike-components.com few days ago. No problems with delivery or customs.
Почему не для России? В чем проблема? Неделю назад ко мне приехал Дирето Х с байк-компонентс. Совершенно никаких проблем с доставкой и растаможкой.
@@sergeyshorokhov2167 я летом заказал elite direto + с того же сайта, таможня развернула посылку. В документации не было указано какими параметрами обладает станок для беспроводной связи.