WAHOO KICKR vs WAHOO ROLLR: Which One Is Best For You?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
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The KICKR 5 is Wahoo’s best bike trainer and one of the best trainers you can get at the moment. The ROLLR is also from wahoo but It’s a whole new different type of trainer. It’s not a direct drive trainer or wheel-on trainer. It’s basically a ROLLR with a fork stand. In this video, I will talk about the differences between these two trainers and the best use cases for each.
- WAHOO KICKR 5 (2020): smtbk.co/kickrv5
- KICKR ROLLR from Wahoo: smtbk.co/ROLLR
- Wahoo POWRLINK Zero: smtbk.co/powrlinkzero
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0:00 Intro/Overview
1:10 Price and Options
2:06 Specs
3:56 Setup
5:23 Bike Compatibility
6:13 Sim Mode and Racing
7:05 Ride feel
8:17 ERG MODE
9:46 Noise
10:16 Which one is best for you?
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I have the Snap but due to knee pain I'm looking at either throwing it on a rocker plate or switching to the Rollr. I've used a Rollr at my bike fitter for a short time but really enjoyed it. I also like the reduced wear on my tires. Thanks for the video!
Excellent 👌 thanks for your time and support. I am a new biker, just got my road bike a month ago and I was having a bad time choosing between Kicker and Roller. Roller is the one for me!
Awesome…. Happy riding 👍🏼
Great video. You hit all of the points of comparison. After fifteen years of using wheel-on trainers, I made the move to the Rollr. The first thing I noticed is that I'll no longer be able to 'phone in' a trainer ride. You know, those days when you just don't feel like a tough ride. Play Time is over. I have to up my indoor game, and I'm up for the challenge. I'll have to reset everything I've done in the past, but it will only make me stronger. I could not be happier with the Rollr.
Glad you are enjoying the ROLLR. It’s a great trainer. Like they say, what doesn’t kill you, will make you stronger :)
Buying a new tri-bike is definitely the solution 👍
Ha… definitely on the radar :)
Great comparison! I bought a Rollr and it works great with my Garmin Rally pedals. I don't do massive sprints out of the saddle so don't have issues with the rear wheel losing contact, just a casual indoor rider, and I couldn't be happier with it! And although heavy, it is actually reasonably portable (I move it to and from the lounge room / pain cave depending on whether the wife is home and I want better indoor scenery)
Yes, it folds up pretty nicely and not that difficult to move around. Good to hear you are happy with it. Thank you for the feedback and watching 🙏🏼
Thank I just received my Rollr today and will recieve Garmin Ralley pedals shortly.
Great comparison! All comes down to your current setup, your needs, and your budget!! I'll be keeping it simple with one bike to rule them all:)
One bike will keep things very simple. Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
As a new subscriber I'm really digging your videos. The amount of detail you put into them for my taste and delivery is just right. I suffered a spinal cord injury some time ago and am easing back into cycling (keeping in mind I need to keep things simple and on a budget). I have purchased the ROLLR (with their powerlink pedals) for ease of indoor/outdoor training without taking wheels off etc. I plan on using Zwift since I'm and avid gamer I feel this will keep me interested in indoor training (achievements/experience..etc). My question is will I be able to complete most all rides/routes (and achievements) in Zwift with the ROLLR? Overtime one of those would be the tron bike (over a long time) but with the reduced degree of resistance I'm not sure if that would work or how that works? Thoughts and please keep up the great content!
Glad your are enjoying the content on my channel. As for the ROLLR, yes, you should be able to use it and complete all routes and unlock any achievements.
Been using the Kickr Rollr for a week now and loving it. Personally I prefer the Rollr over the Kickr Core 😊
Glad you are enjoying the ROLLR. Thanks for your feedback and watching 🙏🏼
May I ask why you prefer it more?
Asking same: why do you prefer rollr vs kicker? I have a kicker now but thinking about changing to rollr to allow flexibility to change bikes easier.
@@lalainezaide9937 thats the main reason for me. Being able to change bikes easily on the rollr and not having to worry about compatibility issues with differing cassettes etc.
Ray, my wife is a 60+ year old C grade daily Zwifter who does mainly TTT and Rosa rides with her Evo team on a Kikr bike. We travel quite a bit and the smart bike is far too heavy and bulky to attempt to take with us. I’d like to get her one of these Rollrs as it can quickly and compactly come apart for travel. Her carbon road bike has a SRAM Force drivetrain with inbuilt pedal power meter and carbon wheels. Would you see this as the ideal option or is there some other brand/model you’d recommend for ease of travel and setup? Thanks, always appreciate your reviews.
I’m curious how you set up Trainer Road with the ROLLR. If you are using a pedal based power meter are you still using power match? I like the idea of the trainer not measuring the power and instead using the power meter. I wouldn’t mind seeing this added to the next version of the KICKR Bike. My biggest concern with the ROLLR would be using my good tires and wheels on it. I currently have my outdoor wheels set up tubeless and would be hesitant to be wearing them out on the ROLLR. Therefore I’d probably end up switching my wheel for indoor training anyway negating the speed of set up advantage of the ROLLR.
Great video!
The ROLLR connects to your pedal based power meter and all you just need to do is connect the ROLLR itself to TR. No need to connect your pedals to TR.
the kickr bike has a similar function. In the Wahoo app, you should see power match feature. Turn it on and enter your power meter ant+ id.
Key thing you mention here is that using separate power meter. i currently using Sarius M2 and currently concern about accuracy using Zwith (today I did 40 mile Zwith whch was 30 miler on garmin using M2 ). As a new road biker, Rollr makes it better.
I have just bought wahoo kickr roller. I don’t use power peadals but when I ride at 60-70 watts it so heavy legs while I see everyone can do 200-250 watts easily. Can anyone tell me the reason? Thanks
Do you have any video to compare Wahoo Rollr with Kickr Snap - the wheel on trainer?
I do not have that comparison. Will look into making one.
How bad is slippage out of the saddle if simulating a hill climb, not sprinting?
I wonder if wahoo has any intentions to make a smart treadmill for the running side of zwift
That would be interesting if they do.
Is it safer to use rollr for our carbon frame ? I've heard that we need to use alloy frame for wheel-on trainer
I have only used carbon frames on trainers including rollers and wheel-ons. It’s fine to use carbon frames.
Great video, any comment about the potential of damaging wheels on the roller?
So far so good and haven’t heard of this happening.
I meat does clamping the front wheel potentially damage them? I understand Zipp have withdrawn the warranty if you use their wheels on the Rollr?
@@nicholastopley7611 That’s correct, Zipp says the ROLLR can damage their wheels and will void the warranty. Wahoo says the stress imposed by ROLLR is within acceptable range. Personally, I have used it with my Zipp 404 and haven’t had issues.
Arrived as expected with all parts intact, also included two hex keys for assembly. czcams.com/users/postUgkxwOUUBdw8-88Iu4QnQS7q6b2NwZkHiYVl Had to adjust mine slightly to fit my bike, this was easy enough with instructions. I bought it to train with my track bike and found it to have resistance similar to climbing a slight gradient. Takes a while to learn to balance but there is plenty of guidance to help on the internet. Edit: There was more resistance at lower speeds because of the number of contact points but at higher speeds it is much easier as you don’t have to contend with drag.
What do you think about the Kickr Tollr vs, the Feedback sports omnium drive ? Thanks
These are two different trainers. The Omnium is a classic trainer and doesn’t support any of the smart functions the ROLLR provides such as Erg mode or sim mode. Plus the Omnium requires you to remove the front wheel.
@@SmartBikeTrainers with power meter pedals, you can use apps with the Omnium drive..
Did you hear of Zbike smart from Zycle ? Thanks
Nice comparison, what is the name of app. 8:24, thx...
That’s TrainerRoad
consindering purchase Roller. But worried bout tyres. Do I need to change to trainer tyre or still okay to use normal tyre? It seems run out the tyre quickly or come out the powder with.
I am not sure how hard it is on tires yet but I have been using it only with my road tires and seems to be fine so far and not as hard on them as a regular wheel on trainer.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thats good to know - that was 5 months ago any update now?
Que tal el desgaste de cubierta trasera ahora que lo tienes tiempo
Training indoors on my home trainer feels - and is - way more difficult than outdoors. When Winter begins, I HAVE to lower the power target for my intervals by maybe 20W or even 30W, else I won't be able to finish the workouts I was able to do outdoors. I read, here and there, that as the direct-drive trainers are less "mobile", it could be a reason why training is harder on them.
My question is: do you feel any difference on your efforts between riding on a direct-drive trainer, vs on the rollers (I'm not talking about your general comfort, but about the difficulty doing your workouts) ?
I do notice watts come a little easier on rollers. Everyone is different though and I think the more you ride indoors the less delta you will have between outdoor and indoors.
It’s to do with heat: when training outdoors the cool air/wind cools you down which lowers your core temperature and therefore your heart rate is lower. Indoor training causes a massive increase in body temperature which increases heart rate which makes it feel harder than being outdoors. Also with being indoors you are constantly pedalling, opposed to cycling outdoors you can ‘coast’ downhills, along flats etc to give you a small break.
@@jimjamthebananaman1 I'm not convinced. First, during the Winter, I train with a powerful fan, and I open the window, the external temperature can get very low (so frisky that, in fact, I only enable the fan and open the window several minutes after I started my warm-up); and I (used to) train with an app that was simulating the slope I was riding, so I had climbs and descents where I could stop pedaling if needed. And second, I'm riding outdoors when the weather is nice enough: during the early Spring, I wear additional layers, so I'm less affected by the cool air; and nowadays, as the Summer is coming, the temperatures can be much higher (15-20°C, and even more) than those I get inside during the Winter; and climbing a steep slope when the sun is beating down and there is no wind, you don't benefit of any "cool air" ! Yet, I think that I would still do better than indoors.
Does it work well with Zwift for an average or slower rider. I don’t race just train and want a setup inside in a bedroom instead of garage? Thanks!
The ROLLR would be loud and vibrate because of the tire contact particularly if you have it in a bedroom on a 2nd floor. Both trainers will work very well with Zwift and will last you a long time.
@@SmartBikeTrainers thank you!
Ray, my wife is a 60+ year old C grade daily Zwifter who does mainly TTT and Rosa rides with her Evo team on a Kikr bike. We travel quite a bit and the smart bike is far too heavy and bulky to attempt to take with us. I’d like to get her one of these Rollrs as it can quickly and compactly come apart for travel. Her carbon road bike has a SRAM Force drivetrain with inbuilt pedal power meter and carbon wheels. Would you see this as the ideal option or is there some other brand/model you’d recommend for ease of travel and setup? Thanks, always appreciate your reviews.
I’m assuming you are traveling by car as this would be difficult to take on plane. But if you are looking for an option to use with Zwift, this is a great option and should work with her power meter nicely. A wheel-on trainer might also be something to consider like the KICKR Snap as it might be easier to fold and carry when traveling but not as easy to setup the bike on as the ROLLR. Finally, my name is Tariq not Ray :)