The Tubbo fake victim situation is insane
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2024
- What do you think about the fake allegation situation involving Tubbo?
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It's funny that they tried to prove it was easy to make false allegations but all they did was prove how quickly false allegations can be picked apart lmao.
Hugely agree
Yeah as a survivor, I know 2 people who have made fake accusations and have read about a few more.
Fake stories almost always are more dramatized than reality. The ones that aren't, their timelines usually don't make sense.
That doesn't mean every wild story is completely fake, but bs artists look at any instance where you are inclined to believe people, and will absolutely try to take advantage of your good nature.
not really. this is just one case. theres tons of false allegations that are believed by many.
honestly if they had change a few details and maybe make it about dream or some other already widely hated youtuber it would've lasted longer. I mean dreams fake allegations lasted as long as they did mostly cuz the internet already hated him for being cringe minecraft youtuber.
When someone fakes a story, they not only hate the person they are accusing but real victims out there. People are less likely to believe the stories and makes it seem like it happens more than it really does. I wish there were punishments for making accusation that are proven to be faked
Yeah because people already accuse victims of just seeking clout, money, fame, destruction of a good person’s life, revenge for breakups, etc and stuff like this just gives them ammo they can point to as evidence of it being a thing. It’s indescribably low.
Only if they get caught and there isn’t political motivation/government influence behind it.
People should be skeptic because words are wind and anybody can claim anything about anyone.
@@guerreiroazul3230exactly, don't dismiss the accusation immediately, but take them with a grain of salt.
@@giulioceresini1435 yes, far too many people fall under the trapping of dismissing every accusation as false regardless of evidence or believing anything without proof, what happened to the idea of judging things case by case?
as a victim making up fake stories is one of the worst and most heinous thinga you can do. even without meaning to it's making light of the situation and believe victims, but also carry skepticism with everyone. hope anyone affected by anything similar reading this is doing better and safe 🙏
It's not the worst thing (holocaust.)
@@samhain4287what is wrong with you
@@samhain4287is this a reference to that one wilbur fan defending him☠️☠️☠️
Ikr, it ruins peoples lives and it also makes people not believe real victims when they speak out.
@@karkatstepdad7103 Yup 😂
"Social experiment" right....... I think they saw everyone else getting attention and decided to piggyback onto other's allegations. After finding out that their story was literally impossible, they back tracked and blamed a "social experiment". That's the only way this makes sense.
this is actually evil. making up fake allegations then saying it was to "prove a point" is insane. i hope they realize how wrong they were & that it's only making things harder for real victims to come forward
They don't care.
Sociopathic.
This person chose to exploit the situation previously occurring in the MCYT community with Shubble coming forward about her abuse from Wilbur, purely so they could get attention and accuse an innocent person. These actions are ones that can only come from a completely deplorable person. Shelby’s story is not an excuse to lie when people have felt the real ramifications of the type of abuse that this person made up for clicks.
you have not even finished the video yet can you shut up
holy shit, something really similar happened with tyler joseph (singer of twenty one pilots) a few years back. like the whole anonymous account then revealing it was a “social experiment” thing exactly. I wonder if it was the same guy.
ok update i’ve gotten to the reveal it was a social experiment and im 99% sure its the same guy now. back when it was with tyler, it was the SAME EXACT REASONING of “ohh ppl believe stuff so easily”. I think we’ve got a repeat offender.
also I think this was around when stuff started to come out about brendon urie, another person many tøp fans were also fans of, similar to now. (this could’ve also just been around when I found stuff out tbh so take this w/ a grain of salt)
OMG I REMEMBER THAT!
Makes me wonder if they are an abuser themselves, honestly.
The problem with the words “social experiment” the definition has changed as it pertains to social media it now means: Attempt to get away with a stunt, but in a taunting and disregarding manner.
man y'all KNOW "emma" thought they were just the smartest, coolest bastard out there 💀
Unrelated but saying "it is physically impossible for me to drive because I dont have my drivers license" is a little funny to me. Imagine if cars had a sensor or lock that prevent you from driving unless you had your DL with you.
Yeah, I don't blame him for being stressed in the moment tho for saying that.
That would probably be a decent invention lol
Most people in the UK aren't like fucking Americans and just drive whether they have a license or not.
He doesn’t have a drivers licence, hence why he wouldn’t even have a car.
So they were proving that AI can make up an abuse accusation about a CZcamsr? Well duh we already worked that out as you can get ChatGPT to tell a story about anything 🤦♀Urgh this kind of shit gets used to 'debunk' genuine victims of abuse. I'm tired of people making up this stuff basically telling the world to believe victims even less than they already do.
5:50 aside from all the obvious problems with this, can I just say that it enrages me when ppl think they have to teach the public a “lesson”? you are NOT Batman 😭😭😭 no one asked
as someone who has been a victim of rape, this shit makes me so incredibly angry. stop cosplaying our trauma and stop doing stuff like this which causes people to not believe actual survivors.
Damn. How are you doing now?
@@gokuok516 it's been 6 years now and while i've managed to graduate school, move out and get accepted into uni, i'm still not over it. i got over my extreme fear of men but my depression, which i already had before the incident, has become infinitely worse. i have achieved a lot and i'm proud of that but i'm still struggling every day and have been waiting for a therapy spot for ages, because my country has very little therapists specialized in trauma therapy. life does go on, and things do get better, but it's an incredibly hard journey. thank you for checking in❤️
“You all look like goofballs” said the goofball
Tubbo responded to her!!! He said thats not a social experiment and that he could sue them, & yes he did say kys (ty random replies)
Also ending it with telling Emma to go k themselves which I don't blame Tubbo, that was his life and job they were f***ing with
@@jthegayjay1638holy shit tubbo said that? damn I am proud of him he must have been really fucking pissed
Not surprising, we have some really strong libel and defamation laws here in the UK. Although if the person who ran the account is from the US its a lot harder curtesy of the 2010 SPEECH Act passed in the US.
@@AScottishPenguin damn dude UK doesn't play.
So they proved themselves wrong. Their fake accusation was immediately found out, showing that it actually isn't easy to make fake credible sounding accusations
Honestly as a Brit, the allegation seemed false from both phrasing (we don’t say parking lot) and the fact that a 16yo going to a party would NOT be drinking for the first time. It’s a disgusting thing for the person to do, I hope Tubbo is alright
i’m not even from the UK and i thought it sounded like BS because of how it was worded
It’s disgusting seeing people think this kind of behavior is okay. It’s NEVER okay to lie about these kinds of things
People come out saying it's all Social experiment is when they mess up and are getting too much hate. They can't handle it so they say that in hope that afterwards The hate will end but it never does.
There's already a lot of fake accusations floating around throwing real victims' experiences into question, the fuck is wrong with people. Bare minimum if you're going to do this as an example, pick a fake screen name as the 'celebrity' and add a disclaimer at the bottom, real experiments have disclosure for a fucking reason.
Accusations should be thrown into question, innocent until proven guilty remember?
While I agree what they did is despicable, the message about not hate training people the moment an accusation true or not is made and instead using some critical thinking is imo a valid one. That way it's easier to make people believe actual victims imo instead of people believing the fake ones and then stopping to believe all accusations made against a public person.
I do want to say if Tubbo wanted too he could press charges for false SA allegations.
I was glued to my seat for this like when I saw Dune: Part Two
as it was written
I tried to find a video talking about the other smp members drama/ allegations but honestly I’ll just wait for your video because I like how straight the point your videos are.
u can find vods from shubble coming out about wilbur's alleged abuse (don't sue me)-- idk whats going on with the others
same
@@mxngos7493It’s not alleged. He admitted to it.
Believe all victims but everyone is innocent until proven guilty LMAO OK???????
It’s more of a “support the victim with words of comfort and encouragement, but do not treat it like their word is the law”
Edit: Sorry, my dumbahh didn’t realise you were quoting the fake tweet lmaoo
If the accused is innocent until proven otherwise then the "victim" isn't a victim, they are an accuser. You cannot call someone a victim of an abuse without indirectly calling someone an aggressor.
@@ghoultooth I agree
@@guerreiroazul3230 100000% correct
The thing is if you side with the guilty one that’ll make actual people think they could get away with it, but if you side with the victim more false accusations will that’s the whole reason we have gotten to this point, so it’s best to stay neutral
You know, this not only hurts actual victims but I cannot imagine how I would react in this situation.
Being accused, in detail, of something that I know I didn't do, but it's being presented so that everyone will think so.
Only to then, later, have the rug pulled out? Like, sure you're vindicated but would you ever feel safe again? Knowing you could just wake up one day to a deluge of people accusing you of one of the worst things a human can do?
It's absolutely something that should result in jail time. That might actually give some of these dipshits pause.
I saw a bunch claiming that this hurts real victims, in what way exactly?
@@guerreiroazul3230 It makes some people less likely to believe actual victims of stuff like SA if they ever come forward. Like they would see people's accusations and think "Oh, well these people lied about getting touch by someone, so this person has to be lying too."
@@thecollector4753 why should anyone believe any and all accusations anyway? Wouldn't it be better to just look at each accusation individually? And shouldn't you be skeptic of accusations even if most of them are true simply by virtue of innocent until proven guilty?
@@guerreiroazul3230 Yeah, you could be at least a bit skeptical, but everybody dogpiles the person accused as guilty due since the cases of someone actually being innocent are seemingly far and few between all of the allegations that end up being true. Not to mention a lot of the internet would deem you a Stan or defender of the person accised if you don't side with the alleged victim off rip. Even if some of them turn out to be false accusations later on, the person who was accused would've already taken notable damage to their career. Like the whole Kwite situation from a while back.
That's disgusting. I hope that person or persons can be identified and brought to justice.
a social experiment wouldve been cool if both sides have planned and agreed beforehand
The fact that people keep making false allegations about minecraft youtubers, NEXT TO THE REAL ONES, just makes it harder for the real victims of Wilbur and Dream. This is the reason for a period of time I stopped believing these claims. Before I left tiktok, it felt like there was a new false and shitty put-together allegation every week that was put on my fyp or being debunked on it. I'm out of that state of denial now, but I'm evidence that when you keep making shit like this. People stop believing claims.
Maybe these kinds of allegations would stop being spread if idiots like this stopped making them.
In regards to Dream, it seems like all of them except one were proven to be false. The remaining one has yet to be proven or disproven by either party so we can't really say if she's a real victim or not at this given time
You shouldn't believe a claim, words are wind and anyone can claim anything about anybody.
This is fucked up. I hope Tubbo finds a way to take legal action on this.
The way the emmalochlan account said George is innocent when he retracted all of that and confessed on his twitter is wild
H u u
They cuddled and he tickled her. I need explanation as to where any kind of assault occurred to Caiti and why her age is in any way relevant as she was an adult. Twitter is a cesspool and I cannot believe that her friends have somehow convinced her that this is equivalent to sexual assault.
@@FischlKinnie by tickling her?
@@EnemysgateHe was 26 while she was 18. That may not be “illegal” but it’s immoral as fuck. 18 year olds are still basically children, no where close to having a fully developed brain. It’s so so gross that he did this. Not to mention she was DRUNK, so there was no possible way for her to consent in that situation, which she didn’t even give any consent George made assumptions which led to assault. There’s no debate whether it was or wasn’t assault, it simply was. I know it can be disappointing when a creator you like turns out to be a shitty ass person, but it’s the reality of the situation. I mean, look at how many of his IRL friends dropped him after this, that should be very telling.
@@EnemysgateHe eventually agreed to the allegations lol. Did you see? It was after she posted more evidence in response to his first reply. He wasn’t only tickling her, he stuck his hands all around her body, into her bra, and into her pants. If that isn’t sexual assault I don’t know what is.
I was there during his stream. He was actually really shaken up after finding out about this. You could hear it in his voice how /srs he was being while talking abt it. He had to talk abt it a few hrs later to make sure any chatters that didn't hear him talk abt it could hear what his response is. Nice job with your vid tho
Yeah, and dude didn’t really get time to deal with in in private because of the subathon
I was there too. He had to step outside his office for a bit and called his mum. He was so stressed.
Everyone needs to also know about the Badlinu situation. He went on stream the other day to talk about how all of these allegations are really triggering him and upsetting him, because he himself was sexually assaulted. It is a really heartbreaking video
Yeah people like this Emma person, caitibuggz and her friends with the fake George allegations are not making it any better or easier for real victims.
Would chatgpt use the phrase "had happened" repeatedly instead of just "happened"? The original post read like it was written by someone without a lot of experience story telling.
INSTANT LAWSUIT for the amount of hours they left the post up. and since her friends chimed in, they catching strays too
Man there’s so many layers to the georgenotfound situation. I have so many tabs on my laptop open right now, trying to prepare my own video on it for my commentary channel. There’s just so many updates then today I saw destiny’s take on it which was nuts
Literally people will do anything for clout
playing victim for funsies is inherently evil but if they wanted to make a point (this wasn't the way to do it) the least could have done is not use a real person's name?? they could have said they don't want to reveal the real person's name or something?? tho even that would be bad
They are actually stupid. I am so convinced they’re a Wilbur fan who saw the clip of Tobi saying he’s no longer associating with Wilbur, and wanted to slander his name for fun, or to “prove a point.”
Someone that I know very well has been a victim of similar things and let me tell you REAL victims have it hard enough to prove their case and bring their experience to justice and the fact that some twitter user wanted to Play teacher and almost wreck someone’s career because why not is fucking repulsive false accusations hurt real victims AND supposed attackers severely. that stuff can go onto their permanent record if there old enough they might not be able to get a job they might get cut off from family banned from certain places ect!
I saw the clip of Tubbo reading it. He was *mortified*
Whenever it has something to do with a random Twitter user coming out with an SA or grooming allegation against one of the members of the Dream SMP, it always needs to be taken with a grain of salt cos way too many of them are doing it simply for clout. It's disgusting and these brats are just bitter teens who got mad that their fave streamer won't engage in sexual relations with them or because they just dislike Dream and want to hurt his image by going after his friends.
BadBoyHalo, Sapnap, Dream, etc. have all gotten false allegations made against them. It seems like Wilbur Soot's allegations were the only ones with merit cos it came from his ex and he admitted to it on Twitter.
Edit: atm Georgenotfound's allegations seem to just be a miscommunication between the two and the girl was drinking under the legal drinking age as well. Most people just think they should've just discussed things privately.
oh wow hello, gonna watch this before i lose my job 💪💪 the grind never stops
i was watching him fight back on stream it was so bad
I was there (watched the stream) when Tubbington reacted to the false allegation. He had to step out of his office after reading and defending himself and called his mum. 💔
As a tubbo fan but also a former Wilbur fan, I can almost guarantee this person who did this “social experiment” is one of the people in the weird ass “Wilbur support community.” They think people can just go online and prove how easy it is to make shit up, but they actually disproved their point since everyone shot down these allegations immediately. Seriously, trying to accuse the gay kid with no drivers licenses of doing SA to a girl in his car is insane…
This person needs to be prosecuted for defamation and false allegations
I’m so tired of random people doing “social experiments” with little to no credentials, understanding or experience with research. This is why reputable research institutions will have an Institutional Review Board to ensure the research is ethical.
i feel like this was a distraction to get the flack off of george 😭 definitely was made to diverge the attention.
Social Experiment My Ass
Yeah definitely did it to ruin him to get the love mummy didn't give them lmfao 🤣🤣😂😂
It’s so fucked up to make a fake sexual assault allegation story. Purposely letting victims back. Literally victims have been shamed, not believed, and abused further forEVER. only recently have people begun believing victims first and abusers second.
why are so many ppl saying “that was a stupid social experiment” as if it was actually a social experiment? they clearly only said that because they got called out for lying.
Once a reputations tarnished, it's impossible to go back in many cases.
Potentially ruining someone career "cause could, so quirky"? That person needs prison time.
"1D kidnapped me" aah victim story
They basically disproved their point about how people lie. Like they literally TRIED to lie and make up a story and it didn’t work. People didn’t believe their allegations because they looked at the facts, and then they tried to turn it around on everybody else.
This is wild I knew the first few sentences this was fake 😭 tubbo doesn’t drive and didn’t especially when he was 16 💀
perfect timing austin
Idk why anyone is acting like the person who ran that account is in any way, shape, or form trying to support real victims. "When you make fake accusations it de-legitimizes real victims coming forward :("
Yes, that's the point. That's why they did what they did. The whole thing reeks of incel-style nonsense.
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply just to be in court. More care does need to be taken with these cases regardless of truth.
This person needs to be found and prosecuted.
I've been hoping/wanting to see if you would cover the Willy Wonka experiment that happened somewhere in Europe. That turned into some kind of fiasco. I've literally been kinda avoiding it. I'm not sure if anyone have suggested it. I really enjoy your take on these kind of things. thanks
somewhere in Europe is the most american thing ever
To the person who did this, may this stay in your head and heart as you lied. And come out into the light.
The least believable part of this whole thing is that a woman would be attracted to a man over his love of Minecraft.
Especially since Tubbo himself is gay, I knew right away Emma was spitting bs and slander
Hey y’all think Tubbo can sue for slander?
Welp, this is bleak and gonna hurt people. Hope someone did some digging before the account went offline so they can find the person and apply consequences.
I personally think that they wanted to keep the Minecraft cancellation train going then had to come up with an excuse for their fake story
yeah that's some garbage!
This is wild, that said, Twitter/X does have a problem with just having people make up drama just to have it go viral. As far as I know, it hasn't reached false SA allegations as a regular thing yet, but it's been pretty close. I don't know about this Minecraft Creator Drama, and this isn't a comment on that, but outside that on a whole, yes, Twitter has that problem, no it's not okay or all claiming a celebrity died when they did not, we should be more media literate rather than become a mob mentality that tries to enforce our own sense of justice.
This FEELS like this was either GNF or Wilbur. It READS like one of them.
You have the same voice as one of my friends
Whenever something related to this kind of thing comes up, I am compelled to inform people that every single girl/woman I've been close enough to to share secrets with has confided in me they've been sexually assaulted, every single woman I'm close to, and I personally have been r@ped resulting in me bleeding for two weeks, emergency gyno appt, imaging showing internal swelling when I was able to get in for imaging two months later. No one who has confided varying degrees of severity of sexual assault has reported it to any official agency in which it could be counted in the 3 out of 4 women will experience assault statistic or whatever it is. I don't know where the statistic comes from but it's not like most women have been officially asked, and none of the women I know nor myself are in that statistic. One of my friends reported to the org she was in that a male superior had bit her arm hard enough to leave bite marks and taken an upskirt picture of her at a work halloween outing. That was the least traumatizing instance of violation she'd experienced with some other instances being extreme, and the only one she reported, and was told by the woman she reported it to 'well he's more valuable to us than you are so this puts us in an awkward position..' not those words but it didn't go farther than that. I didn't report my worst assault because I wouldn't have been able to prove it was assault, despite medical evidence. I looked into it and saw egregious cases including one where a woman was landed in the hospital with severe injuries by her partner and judge and jury ruled "well you can't prove you didn't want that." It's innocent until proven guilty, the burden of proof is nearly impossible in private assaults, less than 2% of reported assaults result in conviction, and then you get Brock Turner cases where even with a witness, the assailant gets 6 months, and the victim gets to relive their trauma and shame in the public eye, plus attorney fees. SA is quietly legal and whenever something like the situation in this video happens, or whenever I see guys online invalidating SA of women, I feel absolutely sick.
That's sad, but i have to ask, what's your point exactly? Should the burden of proof be put in the accuser when it comes to sexual assault? How do you proof you didn't rape someone?
I've heared (don't have proof, just saw somewhere on twitter or tiktok) that Tubbo is threatening legall actions towards this person
the amount of effort and time and research he puts into these videos is INSANE ‼️
I'm sorry what??? What the heck ??? This is the internet now? OK I'm out. I won't even watch this to the end. That's my last video like this. I'll stick to silly things.
Making false allegations against Tubbo out of spite for him and others condemning GeorgeNotFound tells you all you need to know about the integrity of the people defending George
The fact they chose Tubbo, a gay minor (at the time) with no drivers license is so funny to me. Like you went through all that trouble for what??? Believe victims. We are just randos on the internet who see personalities rather than people. If the friends of the creators are speaking up, they know better than any viewer what is up.
why do you tubers change the title of their videos ??
Age Restriction? 🤷🏻 Dunno lol
earlyy
You should cover that whole SuperMega/GreenisnotNick saga!
I understand this is a petty joke, but I think these comments are kinda disrespectful to Austin. He is not his brother. He probably wants to keep his opinion on that private since responding to it would not go well either way.
@@ghoultooth WHOA I did NOT realize the two are brothers. I can definitely see the resemblance now. That is egg on my face. MY BAD!
@@chriscornelious8393 I had no idea either wtf!?
first to comment 🫣
FIRST NO MATTER WHAT
I have a very mild suspicious that this may have been Tubbo himself who did this in preparation for a real allegation that may come out in the near future. The whole "don't believe all victims" weirdly specific narrative targeting Tubbo directly just feels extremely out of nowhere, I can't help but feel like it's a set up so that someone can point to it when a real allegation pops up.
It was probs set up the reason shown in the video. I am a regular chatter in tubbo's chat and know that it could not be tubbo who set this all uo. Did you know tubbo is in the middle of a very packed subathon? He's been streaming non-stop since March 1st. It couldn't have been him who set it up due to how his schedule is right now. I suggest looking at his vods (he has someone uploading hours of time from streams right now for him) to see what his full reaction was.
is it bad that i agree w Emma?? im not defending anyone but there have been many fake accusations that have genuinely ruined careers just bc they dont like the celeb/person
FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE ILLEGAL!
@@Stars4kyy can u name a time where false accusers were punished by law? /gen
But- isn't that what Emma did anyway? They made a fake accusation to call out other fake accusations. Kinda ironic. There are far more other ways to call out fake accusations. Like just advocating about it? You can say it won't get that much attention, but that's better than blatantly calling out what Emma did in the first place.
@@luvsluna4 not that i know of.
Can you think of a time a fake SA story ruined someone’s career? “Ruined” is a really strong word and i just don’t believe what you’re saying has happened
I know plenty of people who partied during 2021, and you can physically drive a car without a license. Happens all the time. Neither of his points made sense as to why he couldn’t. As he could. Those are things anyone can do and don’t prove his innocence. If anything, it made me distrust him quite a bit because his defense as to why he couldn’t SA a person was because “I don’t have a license.” It’s a weird fucking defense. It’s also illegal to SA someone but people still do it. Why would anyone believe someone accused of SA of being like, “No, I had to follow UK Covid laws and I can’t drive without my mom in the car!” What would have 100% proved his point would say, “I don’t, and my family, doesn’t own a car.” Then the story would have been literally impossible.
His weird defense of himself aside…
However, some incel who hates women wanting to prove that the 98% of rapes done by men “could” have some lies is a shitty human being.
But the thing is, it didn’t really go viral or go off, and showed that… fake accusations don’t really gain traction.
What made it go “viral” was it being a fucked up incel lying to try to hurt women… because that’s fucked up.
But all he proved was even women who tell the truth often don’t even get their truth “viral” and the only way he could make his own story go viral was to show how fucked up he was.
Emma literally said it was a fucked up social experiment, also Tubbo said he is dyslexic and can't really drive without anyone in the vehicle and he is gay
am i the only one who thinks tubbo may have made the tweets
Why would he risk his whole ass reputation and career for that? 🤡
Yes probably, allegations and assault are no joke for the creator being accused
Hopefully, yes. You would have to be stupid to think this.
If you are thinking that tubbo himself did this I would like to remind you all that is is in the middle of a subbathon. He's been streaming for 2 weeks nonstop already. Since the 1st of March. His schedule is packed. If you watched the full vod then maybe it would change your opinion abt your statement
I feel like that isn't the case, namely it would damage his career. Imagine you as the creator just creating unwanted fame for the sake of attention. He is already on top anyway so why would he even create a fake story?
If we are going to talk about the Tubbo situation, you should also talk about all the real victims that shared their stories during these past weeks. Which is more important to highlight, don’t you think? Hate to see another nickisnotgreen situation 🤷🏼♀️
he said he'll talk about it next video
What is nickisnotgreen?
He said at the beginning of the video he will be covering the other situations in his next video, as they will be much longer considering how in depth they are. Please don’t fling stuff like that around without listening closely.
plus, lumping in real accusations with this shitty ai "experiment" bullshit would be incredibly rude to those involved.
and clearly not everybody listens closely enough, so the chances of someone misunderstanding which is the fake accusation and which is the real one is quite high if they're mixed together in one video.
@@oevilonehis brother
To the people suggesting Tubbo may be the one orchestrating this for whatever reason: GO. TOUCH. GRASS!
And i dont even watch or know this creator.
All i know is a mindset like that is very unhealthy and will drive you insane.