Base Vegeta BnB Combos & Basics Guide (REMASTERED) | DRAGON BALL FIGHTERZ SEASON 4
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Buttons
02:18 Specials
06:06 Assists
07:38 Blockstrings
11:20 Okizeme
Annotations:
13:40 Midscreen BnB
2M5M - jMLL2H - SD - jMLL2HjcLL2H - j1S - j214L
13:48 Vanish Extension
...j2H - Vanish - (whiff j2H) jLLL
13:54 5H Route
5M2M - 5H - SD - jLL2HjcLL2H - j1S - j214L
14:02 Mid-Corner Loops
2M5M - jLLS - j236M - SD - jML2HjcLLS - {jL(dl)LS}x2 - jLLL
(For scaled only do 1 loop)
14:13 Near Corner Grounded Loops
5M2M - {5H - SD - jMS - (land) 5L}x3 - (5L)LL - j214M
(For scaled only do two loops. If you struggle with the 5LLL at the end try a small delay on the final 5LLL)
14:26 Near Corner Classic Loops
2M5M - jMLL2H - SD - jMLL2HjcLLS - {jL(dl)LS}x2 - jLLL
(For scaled only do one loop)
14:37 Corner Classic Loops
2M5M - jM2H - SD - jMS - {jL(dl)LS}x3 - jLL2HjcLLL
16:05 Corner Loops Advanced
2M(dl)5M - jMjcMS - jL - (land) 5M - jMLjcMS - jLLS - jLL(dl)S - (land) 5L5M - jLLjcLL2H - j214M
(Delay on 2M(dl)5M only required on certain slims and most small bodies.)
16:18 Corner Optimal Loops
5M2M - 236M - 2M5M - jMLjcMS - jLLS - jLL(dl)S - 5L5S(3)5H - SD - jMS - 5LLL - j214M
(For GC punishes for example)
16:33 SD Confirm
SD - jMLjcMLL2H - j214M
16:39 SD Confirm Corner
SD - jLLS - j236M - j2HjcLLS - {jL(dl)LS}x2 - jLLL
16:49 Vanish Confirm
... - Vanish - 66 2M5M - jLL2HjcLL2H - j1S - j214L
16:57 Vanish Confirm 2
... - Vanish - 66 2M5M - 2H - j214M[6] - 214S
17:06 2H Punish/DR Route
2H/DR - SD - jMLL2HjcLL2H - j1S - j214L
17:13 2H Punish/DR Route Corner
2H - SD - jM2HjcLLS - {jL(dl)LS}x4 - jLLL
(For DR Route only do 1 loop)
17:24 Assisted Midscreen Loops
2M5M - jMjcMLS - A1 - (land) 66(dl)9 {jL(dl)LS}x2 - jLL2H - SD - jLL2HjcLLL
17:37 Assist Extension Example 1
5M2M - 5H - SD - jMS - j236M - A1 - 5M - jLL2HjcLLS - jL(dl)LS - jLLL - A2 - j214M[6] - 214S
17:50 Assist Extension Example 2
2M(dl)5M - jMjcMS - jL - (land) 5M - jMLjcMS - jLLS - jLL(dl)S - (land) 5L5M - j4LLMjcLL2H - j214M[6] - A1 - (land) DR - 214S
18:06 Assist Extension Example 3
236H - 214M[6] - A1 - SD - jLL2HjcLLS - jL(dl)LS - jLLS - j236L - A2 - DR - 236L+M
19:15 0.5 Bar 236L Starter TOD (Bardock B/Any Assist)
236L - Sparking - 66 2M5M - jMjcMLH - A1 - (land, dl) jMS - j236M - 2M(dl)5H5S(6) - jLL2HjcLLL - A2 - 214M[6] - A1 - DR - 214S - Lvl1 Lvl1 Lvl3
19:44 0.7 Bar 5H Starter TOD (SSJ Vegeta/Any Level 3)
5H - 236S - Sparking - (whiff 5L)L - 5H - (dl) jMLS - (dl) 5L5H - (dl) jMLS - (dl) 5L5S(6)5H - jLL2HjcLLL - A2 - DR - 214S - Lvl1 Lvl1 Lvl3 - Hry
This man is literally the most helpful dbfz player on CZcams. Probably the only reason I ever made it to ssb rank, or out of Saibaman at all
Hey congratulations
I was stuck in Majin till I saw the light
@@flamingcat1101 now where u at ?
@@idrinkpeople6440 ssg-ssb.
@@idrinkpeople6440 you drink people you say?
Man I wish there was guides like this for other fighting game, because this ones are just perfect.
These guides are a real masterpiece dude. Thank you for that.
If you grab yourself a metronome, which you can 100% search up online, Base vegeta loops occur at at 150 bps. Hope that helps somewhat.
Never thought of using metronome for a game
Amazing remaster really needed that for improving my main prince thx bro 💯
Sick vid! I can tell you put a lot of effort into the editing. Thank you! It was very informative.
Pretty good remaster! I just completed the old one a week ago, so this is a pleasant surprise.
Amazing as usual, I’d love to see tohan and baseku redone as well I feel they need revisiting
"Run the meta while you can 21. Because I can now see the damage of your mixups, while I'm only beginning to 2H them."
"I feel like we've been here before, have we been here before?"
"You see, I have finally realized to block."
"Oh my god this IS happening again."
"Thats right, you're not dealing with the average BnB anymore 21. I, Vegeta, have finally obtained the Optimal Fruit Loops!"
I obtain that power long time ago...
Because i am super baby 2 main
@@mauriciosfrecola3428 AAAAAAA (dies)
@@robotizedcyborg7788 i hope you wanna meet my friends
Jiren and zamas
your videos have been mad helpful man
Seus vídeos são incríveis, totalmente detalhados e bem editados, espero esses tutoriais para mais personagens!
#Videl
Thank you for the loops
I love the exchange between Goku and Vegeta:
"Stop mashing raw kaioken!"
"Shut the hell up!"
"..."
"Just block it!"
"How do I bl-"
Truly the language of the gods.
P.S. TORGUE, THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOUR CONTENT.
Okay ✅ I’m
WOOOOOO BAAAAABY, that's what we've been waiting for.
17:12 for DR corner loop route do 27 hits of DR and do jMS - dl jLLS - dl {jL(dl)LS}x3 jLL2HjcLLL | 3507 damage
Epic
Best dbfz content meme and info wise
This video came out just as I had picked up base vegeta. Same happened with the bardock video. Maybe a trunks video is next
A tip for everyone to counter the rps created by Vegeta's 236L or 236S, all his options (I think) can be beaten by moonjump into j.L. It's tricky but is a great way to deal with a stick situation.
I was literally watching the S3 RIGHT NOW
Upgrades people, upgrades!
YEAH BABY!
I suddenly had the urge to start playing base vegeta like a week ago... and I forgot you had made a guide. I came for the funny neutral, then remembered the loops. I'm constantly trying out whack team comps so I have no idea If I'll keep him or not. But I wanna learn lmao
I'm gonna patiently wait for the ssj vegeta guide
“Nappa Evaporator-inator”
The now canon name for that move
I call it, The Meme Beam.
Great video! Just wanna point out that basegeta has a 3S now going full screen
thank you!
Amazing guide and video, If can next guide of goku gt plis.
U help me a lot allways, You are sick, knows how to play eveyithing. Could u do a videl one?
These guides are good and helpful bit I'm never going to learn loops like these, too timing based and I don't have the patience to sit there through it. You have to be precise and perfect on every button and I can't do that not to mention knowing how long to delay stuff. I can do the most basic vegeta loop with 5l, 5h, SD, jms, repeat
you can absolutely do it, once it clicks they become infinitely easier. honestly if you can do the standard bnb you can do any combo youll find in my videos, and if you can do his 5L 5H loops i dont see a single reason why you shouldnt be able to do the other ones!
that ending line for vegeta was so funny
Ok that "What she sees" joke caught me off-guard. Bravo, man.
tiny without you id be a mashing scrub thank you and im hoping and waiting on that roshi guide
7:04 this bit was perfect
Coolest point in the game
You are the best man on the earth. Do you know what characters your going to do next? Like blueku ;)
as someone who knows the loops already, you're wrong Vegeta, I did not come here for just loops.
my brain is getting more and more vegeta combos like before
So, who’s got the highest sauce value in all of these videos yet? I haven’t been watching in a hot minute and I’m looking for a saucy character to pick up
I dont have any plans to play vegeta i just think these videos are cool
I love you
Hey torgue when are you making a video about piccolo, I really need some help on learning how to play him and do some bnbs because I just picked him up and I want to really turn him into one of my teams.
Isn’t the dr corner optimal combo where you only get 27 hits on the dr(tap light twice) so you get like 3 loops I think
20:13 This man knows XD
Nice TFS call back!
Wow, I actually just learned corner loops in a span of 10 minutes
If you guys still can't loop, I've got a solution for you
As soon as the super dash hits, immediately buffer the JM and JS, and then wait until those are over, then proceeded with the JL(dl)JL-JS
Angree monke man eet froot loops
Do Both Android 21's Next
Yo Torgue if you see this then are you planning on making a SSBlue Goku season 4 remaster?
Goku Blue needs a full remake
@Volt a lot of it is out of date and i dont have the files anymore to update the original project
@Volt loops need more practice to get down consistently
@Volt notifications for replies are terrible and super easy to miss
His loop combo is gonna be the death of me, I can't for life of me get the timing down
Same dude
Exactly, I think I'm gonna stick to the ground one
19:03 I can't believe nappa got a glueman skin
I just hear hook in the back ground like
“Subscribe to the goddamn, shhhssh, channel man….. YOU PLAYIN TOO MUCH.”
14:49 make up your mind, sheesh
we came for the loops stayed for the tods
Playing vegito lead me to not being minfull of reflect, with vegeta you usually have to go from 2L to 5H. He is still my favorite character, learning his loops made me understand how hitstun works in this game
You should try to bait reflect 8nstead of practicing anti reflect Strings. It's good to have them but they shouldn't be your go to to beat reflect. As soon as you can see the green effect they are vulnerable
@@raidenjeskar2823 true
@@cambalache9139 spread da word
@@raidenjeskar2823 Having them as a goto isn't necessarily a bad thing as most people who reflect tend to think its their turn and mash. The result is still the same with varying risks on both sides.
@@Spawn3582 The Risk/Reward is not equal. It only takes a small gap and to glance reaction to bait a reflect by stopping for a second and watching carefully and them taking back your turn with a button.
Now, When you whiff a reflect its a full commitment with no system mechanics to save you, not even spark. Your opponent is allowed to choose their highest damaging combo and if they have 75% of a bar to a full bar if meter, they are going to build 2 bars and your looking at (depending on the team/character) 65-90% damage. So even if you just took a couple stray hits in nuetral you could loose an entire character for whiffing a reflect because you didn't want to block. It Also disincentivises the option because you just fucking died from whiffing a reflect, which is more scary than the baby 20 or 30% combo or a scramble situation/Blockstring after you successfully do an anti reflect string.
When you attempt to anti reflect string you are creating an RPS. It's an RPS that is in your favor a bit, but it is still a situation where you are more likely to return to nuetral than get a hit on the opponent. So not only is the reward difficult to get, it isn't a very big reward. The opponent has access to most of their options after they reflect your move and can challenge you. The window to react to being reflected is also a lot smaller than the window to react to reflect being whiffed and punishing accordingly.
Thus, anti reflect Strings are handy to have when the opponent reflects you when you aren't really expecting it so you can capitalize off of your own mistake of not Baiting the reflect. They are not your go to option when you think someone is mashing reflect.
This is a problem in 90% of even the top dbfz players because they fail to consider the situation they are creating and just want to attack the opponent and not allow them to play. Remember. You can only punish your opponent if they do something. And they will only do something if you Let. Them. Play. They want to reflect? Let them reflect. And show them what happens half a second later.
Vegeta really doesn’t like grabbing crouching enemies doesn’t he?
Also, that Grab was first used on a prone Sayian so why can’t it be used on a crouching one?
Edit: Well I suppose I answered that myself huh?
can u make a janemba guide that would mean a lot :)
Kid buu? Teen gohan? Just asking thanks for the great content as always
Corner Loops off a Sd confirm 😲😲😲
is the mid-corner loop still possible? can i still connect the SD after 236M or am i just stupid rn
Edit: nvm i was just stupid i just had to be a little bit closer to corner
Please Do a SSJ Vegeta Guide
I have been maiming Vegeta for about 6 months now and his corner loops are still impossible for me. They are so frustrating
Do these combos not work anymore or am i just bad because i cant seem to get the loops working properly and my vegeta is landing or doing the moves fast enough like the vegeta in the video
HUZZAH! BASE VEGETA
We demand a Nappa guide!
Bro i will literally pay for the next one to be gogeta blue remaster
What he sees
17:24 would it be possible to do this off a rejump too?
For the corner loops, how is it that vegeta jumps more than twice? I thought you only had two jumps per combo, yet the (j) symbol is repeated many times per loop
j just indicates an aerial move, you use your double jump specifically only where it says jc (jump cancel)
Someone should make a soundtrack for Basegeta Players to time loops too.
We Will Rock You works wonders
@@raidenjeskar2823 i thought of the songs rhythm, and it just sounds perfect for loop rhythms
how do you do the combo joint where you super dash kick, vanish, then intentionally miss a knee drop to forward hop into a combo extension
It's EX Rocket Kick, Medium Rocket Kick, Vanish, Light Knee Drop and hold forward if I remember correctly
19:15 It is a reference to DBZ Abridged???!!!!
When is that 21 video coming?
Evilgeta
While it's not important at all, you missed out his 3s and j3s which is like 2s but goes fullscreen.
We need a tien guide 🙏🙏🙏
I’m still struggling with the level 3 mix :(
Can we get a super sayian vegeta video?
I read the character into as Vegeta (Based)
Fat buu guide now
is 1s needed in the first bnb or is 2s okay too? hit stun different or something?
trajectory is different, pretty sure j2S doesn't connect after j2H.
wheres the post vanish knee dive rejump combo👀
no mention of the fact that he has a 3S now?
HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Does he hold the up button to stay longer in the air cause it says jLdlLs or no? i see after the dash he does jMS so he just hold the up button right?
holding up does nothing there, dl means delay so you gotta find the right rhythm
When we getting the rise of the girls video lol
Roshi pls
ssj vegeta when?
Pls do Majin Buu :3
I still need help understating most if this i don't really know what the 2L and 5L stuff means
Just pause the video at 00:04 and have a read through the infographic
I don’t get it I cant get the corner loop to work, they always recover before I can even input the buttons
When exactly does it drop
5:25 how rd are you supposed to get that grab off. Was this patched? Idk vegeta just hold backward and I can’t get close enough to grab
Hold forwards after the knee drop hits the ground to bounce towards the enemy instead
@@TinyTorgue thanks will try
Hey I know this vid is like 2 years old but how do you do the float mix after the light rocket kick. I'm trying to learn ssj vegeta too and i know you can do it in the new patch but I just don't know how, can anyone help?
just gotta hold up+forwards and you'll float close enough; has to be L rocket kick. base vegeta and ssj vegetas rocket kicks behave differently though
14:02 I can't do the SD after the j236M. Either it doesn't SD at all or it happens WAY too late. I am not mashing and trying to figure out the timing. Help?
Edit: I'm playing on PC @4k 60FPS using a Dualshock 4 Wireless
I know exactly what you mean, unfortunately I'm not exactly sure why Vegeta sometimes just doesnt want to SD. It could be a distance from the corner thing, but I'm not sure. Luckily you can usually go into the grounded loops from that distance instead, which should be more consistent
Nappa and 21 lab coat guide please 🥵
For some reason im having trouble hitting the SD after the j236M unless it's right in the corner :(
Yeah that particular combo sometimes just decides to not want to let you SD, I honestly cant tell you why
How do I keep momentum for the midscreen loops?
Make sure you're using an assist that allows you to do the loops midscreen, then you just need to dashjump the correct distance and height. The actual timing is the same as the loops in the corner.
Interesting you'd make this on base Vegeta. Since Labcoat there's literally no reason to play him 😂
patch coming we smoking lc 21 pack
15:57
SOMEBODY SPONSOR THIS NIGGA 🗣
i swear in that loop, the L doesn't come out unless you mash it twice.
Nope youre mistiming it. Too early from the sounds of it.
"i know for a fact you came here for the loops."
WHY DID YOU ATTACK ME LIKE THAT?!