I recently tried turning on a 15 year old PC and the Nvidia Control Panel looked the same as it does today. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. It was so embarrassing.
I love how the current NVIDIA Control Panel includes a picture of a Quadro FX 3500, which you can see in the HDCP section. That card came out in May of 2006.
90% chance the new app has a splash screen that takes just as long to load... and then there's padding, and everything's moved, or the good stuff is hidden because its 'too advanced'.
Nope. It's noticeably faster than Geforce Experience, not to mention the horrid Control Panel. Also, why comment before watching? The video literally shows you the app starting up lol
I just spent a few hours scratching my head with this: For anyone trying the Nvidia App and finding out the processor usage goes high for some cores: If you configure the Nvidia Overlay to not show statistics (ALT + R shortcut), even if you choose not to use the overlay at all: This causes NVIDIA FrameView SDK service to go into a constant restart loop loading and unloading every second or so. Setting the statistics to be in use solves this problem (the service stops restarting itself and stays on), even if you then disable the overlay completely.
After some more testing it gets weirder than I previously thought. After a windows restart the FrameView SDK service now starts bugging out if the Statistics is ON but the Overlay is OFF. Setting both OFF seems fine, until I restart windows and that puts the FrameView SDK service back into a restart loop. So it is different depending on what settings you have set before restarting or shutdown and after flipping the settings off/on.
Does anyone if you read? It's "BETA", it's not supposed to be a finalized product to be delivered to the end user. You voluntarily downloaded the thing, you're supposed to give feedback when you see issues, not complain and laugh about it.
@@shinozaaakiiibeta or not any senior engineer worth his salt should maintain 80% test coverage throughout the process. that typically means writing unit tests for configuration flags is low hanging fruit, i have expectations of companies that pride themselves on quality
AMD and ATI made so much gui layer changes instead of fixing the drivers and finnishing them on time to launch day...they shloud add Templates like Winamp (that nobody remembers)... they have still so much to learn from redundant technology companies...too focused on monopoly... AMD is still fixing now driver bugs of Polaris, VEga, RDNA1 and 2 while finishing RDNA3 even for old games and cpus, but also for open source Mesa drivers or linux oem support... Nvidia needs to keep doing changes like this instead of fixing old cpu/games "driver overhead" or lose of frames when resolution is under game deveoloper's targeted 1440p and also over it as FPS are not scaling properly from 4060 to 4090 or 4090 can be too close to 7900XTX (Also scaling badly from 7600 many times and not showing full potential) or OpenGL or...
@@firkinflamer8604 the latest WHQL recommended 24.1.1 driver is a big mess. It has caused stutters and crashes in so many games for so many people and broke ReBar for some too. That's a bad driver. And they havent released a WHQL driver in over a month since then. There are preview drivers hidden in knowledge base articles with some fixes but that's not something easy for regular users to find. It's not a nice experience on AMD
There is a strong possibility new control panel gui feels like Windows 95, Me, 8/8.1/8.2, 11... the 3.11, NT 4.0, 98, 2000, XP, 7, 10... Nvidia HW has also long tradition on progress/deception on alternating cycles... 3.5 version may feel correct or by 2040 may be riding the success wave (like CUDA) while having the strongest need of starting on a blank canvas...
@@tek_lynx4225 - windows 95 with NVidia gpus (Riva to Geforce 5) "debuted" with plenty of new crashes for users to enjoy... - Nvidia whatever 6 tends to be good, until RTX 40 debuted with mismatched names, chips, specs and model numbers... or used to tend to be good... - the RTX 2000 Ada Genaration 16Gb (not to be confused with Quadro 2000, RTX 2000 or RTX A2000...) aka detuned RTX 4060 Super at 70W that should be called RTX 4050, as RTX A2000 6GB is a RTX 3050 6GB at 70W, not to be confused with RTX A2000 12 GB (3060 12GB) which successor is RTX 4060 Ti/Ti 16GB or RTX 4070 12GB (if we realize RTX 4000 sff 70W and RTX 4080M 16GB 150W are made on the same silicon as they debuted ) if you deOverclock from 200W to the 120 to 150W. - Nvidia is in a loop of debuting. One debute leads to another debuted of the same, more or less confusing result as before.
The problem as a normal gamer was not that I need to register and login in order to update the drivers. The problem is that the app constantly forgets your login and you need to login again!
@@Lilly_An Consider yourself lucky then. Seems like every few versions Experience goes through stretches of time where it forgets my login every time I boot up. Very frustrating considering how unnecessary the login is.
First thing I noticed about the new UI is how there are like 3 things on the screen at the same with 90% of the screen just being blank. I get they're trying to make it look "clean" but nobody wants to move their mouse 5 kilometres to get to a different setting.
Someone please explain the concept of information density to GUI devs. Having to scroll for miles through a list of settings that could have been 1/3 as long is not a good user experience even if it looks better.
Yep... All modern devs suck at UI because of that. They don't have to work with limited resolutions so they make terrible UIs that give way too much real estate to non important graphical elements.
This, so much this. I upgraded from 15" to 21" to 27" to 32", and yet it feels like I'm seeing _less and less_ on my screen, because everything's adding infinite amounts of white space, banners, and decorations everywhere. It's like designers are constantly undoing all the technical progress to appease to people who can't handle more than two things in front of them, so everything should be spaced out, hidden, and collapsed, even if it makes everyone's life slower as a result...
I didn't mind the old design since I'm old and I'm used to it. I did mind how absurdly slow it was. It took aged to launch, it took ages to switch pages within it and it took millenia to uply chosen settings.
Yep.. Feels like opening the files and edit them manually would be faster. If that would be possible, I might've started doing that, lol. For the 3D settings, it's definitely possible to do it faster. Nvidia inspector did it wayyyyyy quicker.
I hope this comment goes up to the top. People get pretty defensive about change, but it just sucked to tinker around with settings when every adjustment you make came with a couple seconds of the control panel freezing
what are you doing with you pc? the old nvidia control panel is instantaneous... are you have delirium or a fully bloated pc? maybe try it without geforce experience instead?
Number 1 issue I have is that it is unknown how many "features" will be available offline. While GeForce experience was build from the ground up with the "always online" theme (heck, it even requires you to login to nvidia account in order to use it at all) and I would also guess it collects user data, the old NV Controll Panel is 100% offline. You don't need nvidia account to change screen refresh rate lol. Also, GF Controll Panel started working slowly when Nvidia added GF Experience. And many times Nvidia was outright removing shortcuts to NV Controll Panel. For a very long time Nvidia wanted even advanced users to stop using NV Controll Panel. The are without a doubt using their monopolistic position to move a lot of features behind always on-line app and collect telemetry data on what settings we use for what game etc. At least, this is what I think about it. When it comes to big corporations, the reason they do anything is always the same - cash.
True company care only about money and control Most people already know that the what to have as much data as possible in the order to selling those data And send you advertising in multiple other company's.
I use NVCleanstall to update my Nvidia driver and you can modified what you want to install for your system & the Experience app use a lot of task in the background
NO NO NO. I don't want anything replacing the control panel that includes features from the GeForce Experience. Don't care if the existing control panel looks outdated. BOOOOOO!
why should they do the work for the board manufacturers...its their job to provide proper controls for their hardware designs because they are VARIATIONS of the stock design using vastly different specs across the range of gpu models...from voltages, regulations, fan numbers, rgb, yadda yadda yadda. The driver would get so bloated that we would find people like you whining about 2 gb driver installs the day after your wish was forfilled.
@@TheInfidel_SlavaUA Except all that is implemented in VBIOS according to Nvidia's specifications. Reading that out and providing override controls for it is trivial.
Would be nice. I think NVIDIA wants to keep things safe and not annoy vendors with RMA's because little timmy overclocked his GPU or the fan curve didn't read correctly from the vendor and the fan motors burnt out.
It is going to be implemented: "On our beta roadmap, we plan to offer AV1 support for Shadowplay, additional DLSS controls, extra overclocking options, and more."
@@Peter-ve6gz You might be thinking of DDU, which is for cleaning out old drivers. NVCleanstall is mainly for customizing which components of a driver will be installed, plus there's a bunch of other useful tricks it can do.
Yeah I am gonna wait until they get something up and running for this before I switch over. I like to be able to use my custom settings with one click instead of manually doing a bunch of tweaks, like MSI Mode or whatever.
Will it allow to undervolt/overclock and control fan curve Nvidia GPUs like Radeon Adrenalin does? I mean why people must download separate software like MSI afterburner for it?
The two main issues for me personally is the lack of a dark mode option and just how slow it feels compared to other apps on my system. If they just fixed those two things then I'd have no complaints
I have purposely avoided Geforce experience because of worries about telemetry. I am worried that I will no longer have the option once the control panel and gerforce experience are integrated
@@bricaaron3978Learn how to use control panel. It barely uses any resources at all. And if you know how to use a PC you can prevent it from running in the background...
Sadly the app is a downgrade from the nvidia control panel. It adds more clicks to get to the same settings, thus it is a UX downgrade. Form over function of what should be a utilitarian application.
There is no fps 1% lows monitoring anymore!!! Or maybe I just can't find it , but for me that was the most important metric on the old experience app. I know i can always instal afterburner and riva tuner , but that's additional steps and in counter strike 2 , it requires the -allow_third_party_software launche option, which tanks my trust factor.
I must be in the minority. I have no problem with Nvidia Control Panel's "tree" layout. You can get to settings rather efficiently. I hope they don't end up doing a clickfest app, the way Windows has by moving away from Control Panel (which I like) to "Settings" (which I loathe).
Exactly. I am really glad Microsoft didn't completely ditch the Control Panel, but I still had to pin it to avoid using the Settings. Now, in the matters of the app, I really hope Nvidia can match or even beat AMD's Adrenalin software. I have been using AMD for a while now and, though their softwares in the last 5 or so years weren't some greastest things ever, impresses me they were ahead in so many aspects as well.
Also i totally hate this design trend where settings just get saved when you change them, compared to you have to click "OK" or "Apply". Also i have the fear they make it worse as Mircosoft hides all the important settings in nested under menus because those are considered by todays avarage user as "too much" or "complicated" while it removes your ability to get control over things. People need to learn to use they brain, jesus.
@@PenkoAngelovThis. I could bear the 20 year old design if it at least wasn't unfathomably slow. I don't know why people are defending this level of corporate laziness.
I think it's going to be an issue for people that like debloating their nvidia drivers to include only things they need...if this is a replacement both for geforce experience and the old control panel, this means people that only need the control panel and not geforce experience will be stuck with this new program.
But this one is much faster than the old Control Panel. Im fine with it taking a bit more of HDD and RAM if it stops being so slow and laggy like the old control panel.
I'm one of these. I just want the Control Panel, which has no issues for me. Sure, it's old and clunky, but it does just what I want. GeForce Experience… is awful. A piece of bloatware. I want it away from my computer.
i remember the day where suddenly i was presented with the login screen to use shadowplay that has been a very lightweight and stable feature for years, i was fuming, i nearly broke something in blind rage, glad those days seems to be in the past. I still wish they had a sRGB clamp feature since we're in 2024 and lots of monitor makers are still incompetent
did you check about how much the Nvidia App will collect and send Data (Telemetry)? did you check if could be considered as Bloatware? The No login sounds like a trap to lure as many as they can to the app.
It definitely is a move in the right direction but I hope they keep as much ot the functionality of NVCP as possible. Yes its slow but it is highly functional. Powerful and clear settings that just work. I hope they do this well.
My biggest point about a control panel, or in general any config tool is that things are compact and dense. And that was one thing the old control panel did well. It was just super slow and didn't scale well with window size. What I want for the new control panel is a search function, native system UI, and going away from the form over function "modern" design. So nvidia, please double the density of the settings list. I'm not on a 5'' 4K touchscreen. I notice that in general, modern software basically requires stuff like that. Everything is gigantic with enormous bezels, graphics cards have noticeable banding in 24/32 bit color depth, antialiasing has become worse, effects are undersampled, the resolution you set isn't what the games run at... And since they bring the ingame settings into the thing, if something allows for numeric values (either ingame or through the config file) let us enter numeric values.
why is it slow for you guys? i see the video my hdd loads it instantaneously why on their video it takes ages... their pc must be bloated or they trying to sell this trash app, i don' trust hardware unboxed anymore.
@@robertcarhiboux3164 My PC boots from a PCIe 3 NVMe and it still takes ages to load the control panel. My PC doesn't have any unnecessary bs installed either.
try maybe adwcleaner, zhpcleaner, rogue killer and eset online scanner with advanced threat, did you install only the driver, or do you have also geforce experience installed? this is not normal.@@itIsI988
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Few seconds faster to open. Lol. As if people are that impatient. Hope nvidia gives us the option to turn on the old design. Not everything's gotta be modern.
I really hope that shadow play can let me seperat all the different audio tracks of apps in the future. Would be a huge improvment to shadow play and would make OBS obsolete for me.
i hope they dont remove any of the features from the old apps, often when companies switch from a more complex older looking control panel to a more modern looking one they also end up removing a lot of the options to simplify it
Should have had this 10 years ago. Always thought AMD Adrenalin looked way nicer which is indeed surprising for how cutting edge nvidia likes to push their features and software development. Glad to see it better late than never!
Honestly, after moving to AMD and getting used to the software suit and things it lets me do, one of the things that has kept me from really wanting to go back to Nvida was that I liked the AMD drivers more. If Nvidia finally updated theirs to something good, that shifts it back a bit again. Not being able to overclock and undervolt right in the same app keeps the driver package ball in AMD's court for me though. Yes, I can use Afterburner, but that's just more software that needs to be run.
@De-M-oN For what exactly? The user experience is rather worse over AMD drivers, if the only metric is about using the control panel features. Can you even toggle G-sync on/off while the game is open? For AMD it's just Alt+R and the tuneable settings are within reach in matter of seconds. I'm glad they're unifying the UI experience a bit more now, since it would be kinda pointless to even own a Nvidia GPU imho at that point, if you don't use Geforce Experience, since you're lacking so much in the features. Sure you can use inspector and other 3rd party software, but those aren't real fixes for the average user. Currently those settings are too split, so if you can get a better panel and overlay at all on the same place, it would be an actual upgrade on the user experience...
HELP! I have a Brazilian Lenovo Legion 2022 5i i7 12700H RTX3060 (and screen with 45% sRGB, something like this), and the images at games are so bad! Even playing in my television, the images doesn't have definition, sharpness, are worse (in this part) than at my Acer Aspire 5 Ryzen 7 5700u Integrated Graphics! How can this happen?!? I play at my TV, the resolution and fps are configured OK, everything's OK, but even at the TV the same image is better at Aspire than Legion!!! HELP ME! I use the Geforce Experience to improve sharpness at games, but doesn't get beautiful, it gets better but not beautiful, it gets exagerated!!! My Acer came perfect for using, my Lenovo even I changing things at NVIDIA Panel doesn't solve the question, the image barely change!
Funny how after all this time they have now decided to change the UI. too many people choosing amd because of how good there UI is including me. It's brilliantly layed out and is super easy to navigate. Amd are keeps ahead, there already pushing the boundaries with cpu,s on top of there gpus.....drivers are getting better and better, Cheaper in price,Better performance.
Old doesn’t always mean outdated. If it works, don’t change it. I personally don’t care about “modern UI”, especially for something you merely access every few months.
I've been manually installing my drivers for years now and plan on doing it for now. Only "app" I use from Nvidia is the NVCP, so I will be sticking with the control panel until they fully merge the settings from the control panel to the new app. EDIT: Might even stay away from it when full release arrives if they will still "force" stuff like ansel down your throat etc.
The NVCP files are embedded in the current installer's Display.Driver component and it can be backed up for the future occasion of it being removed. Hopefully it will continue to function as normal.
Have you noticed a different process with Highlights with this app? Before with GeforceExperience, temp highlights were saved in a different location and only once "saved", would move in to a dedicated shadowplay folder. It seems with this new app, the temp highlights are already in the dedicated shadowplay folder. Hope that makes sense! Basically the ability to store temp highlights in a different folder that are not "saved" has gone. Have you found this too? Thanks
Yes, the NVidia app has been available for download for several days already. But I still miss the Radeon Software. It is so good compared to NVidia's offering.
I'm convinced Nvidia is paying you and others to say this. It's not all moved over from control panel. This new app is still bloatware. Without a login. Nobody needs it or should use it.
Wow. About time they follow up on AMD's amazing Adrenalin Drivers UI... That forced login and horrendous UI split controls was the one thing I hated the most from switching to NVIDIA from years of AMD cards.
I hope they have fixed the bug about the thing sometimes recording other monitors instead of the main one. If it needs to be able to record something else, it should be controllable and understandable to use
What about all the advanced graphic settings I can tune with the nvidia Profile Inspector? Will it still be compatible with this new control panel? Also about the "obsolete settings". Those settings are still used by old (pre 2010) games... I have a feeling we retro gamers are gonna have even an harder time making old games work...
I used Nvidia for those full 18 years that the control panel exists. Never used Nvidia experience software, and never missed any possible setting. Only thing this change will do, is force everyone to use their data collection software version. Even though you do not have to log in, data collection is still done.
**NOTE** I just extensively tested the RTX HDR, i do NOT recommend it. Firstly. you can NOT have 2 monitors connected (or more than 1) Secondly, at least in the game i tested it in, which does not have its own HDR, and i have been using Windows Auto HDR for a long time. the windows HDR looks better. RTX HDR makes the characters faces look Ghostly. its boosting the wrong colors or weird detection of what to highlight and to what level. the AI needs better training etc. in fact you can do something cool and lower the "Grey Mids" slider all the way to 1, and see what exactly its highlighting and detecting as needs HDR boosts. Comparing the 2, Windows Auto > and also im not leaving my 2nd monitor unplugged to continue to use it, even IF it was the same quality or even better quality. that has to be a bug or something they figure out. this can not be for single monitor users only....
Logins are used to gather user data... They just figured how to collect whatever data and user activity they need in the background without the need for the user's manual login. They never cared for "user feedback" or complaints. All they care are the sweet sweet profits and precious data.
funny how this update happened the same month I sold my 1070 and switched to a 6700xt cause I was tired of geforec experience and wanted better performance for the money I have impeccable timing as always
Honestly while this is a step in the right direction this Software is still ages away from what the AMD Adrenalin Software has at the moment. I'd hope that the idea is to eventually make this Software have more or less the same Feature Set that the AMD Software has, and improve the UI to make it look snappier and more modern. Because yeah, it looks better than the old control panel, but it could be much, much better. Atm it looks like a 2018 Basic UI
@@Ciffer-1998 "what would it be even used for like old games which didnt have upscalers" - it could inject an upscaler after rendering is done. Some older games doesn't even have a proper depth buffer... that could be a problem tho xD
The Nvidia Control Panel is easy to navigate, because it's all just hyperlinks text that expand on the left. Zero advertisements and giant full page photos all over designed to make you stop and look and slow you down to buy something.
I want to update to this new app, but one crucial function I use is Nvidia GameStream which I use to Stream my PC to my Android TV box in my room - Does this new Nvidia app have GameStream?
is it easier to configure surround ( when i want to game on my 3 monitors as 1 screen ) and switch back off when i want to be productive( monitors act as 3 seperate screens )
I think I still prefer AMD’s Adrenalin app but this is a big step up for Nvidia. The geforce experience and control panel separation was a big reason for my AMD gpu preference.
All the 551.XX drivers are scaling/stretching a 16:9 image to fill my 32:9 monitor, no matter what I have the scaling options set to. I've always ran no scaling performed on display and has worked fine. 16:9 images displayed as 16:9 on my 32:9 monitor. Very frustrating.
I have no idea why people are celebrating the beta. Severely functionally restricted. The market leader is releasing a beta after 18 years and will certainly need months until the final version. Unworthy of a market leader with its software capabilities. The Adrenalin software has already been optimized/revised several times in the 18 years it took Nvidia for a beta. You can celebrate the new app when it is final in month and than is eventually competitive with Adrenalin Software.
Considering how Nvidia is practically more about software than hardware at this point, it's amazing it took this long to have a decent looking control panel
The new interface is amazing but it still needs a bit of work as the old nvidea control panel is still present in the system because the new one is lacking some settings
The dynamic vibrance looks terrible, theres somehow even compression artifacts i can notice while ingame. im def just gonna continue using vibrancegui instead. Otherwise though, this app looks and feels great
![ТЫ ДОЛЖЕН установить это НОВОЕ приложение NVIDIA! [NVIDIA APP]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tUHtJ_UI9M4/mqdefault.jpg)
It took like...84 years...
I recently tried turning on a 15 year old PC and the Nvidia Control Panel looked the same as it does today. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. It was so embarrassing.
@@JackJohnson-br4qrIt doesn't get Jensen more jackets
@@JackJohnson-br4qr Yeah, my first Nvidia GPU was in 2006...my goodness...
@@GewelReal Jensen let's say that is so far away from us that he uses light travel speeds to visit us...
I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia has actually been using the same control panel app since the 1940s 😂
I wasn't expecting this, they were using the same control panels since ages lol
Yep. My last Nvidia card was in 2007 and I had this exact interface.
I liked it, it was quick to access any setting.
@@domainmojo2162 It dates back even earlier than that - think the Windows 98 era.
I thought XP but man even 98?@@saturnotaku
@@Nib_Nob-t7x As the video shows, it really isn't. You are just used to it but it sucks ass
I love how the current NVIDIA Control Panel includes a picture of a Quadro FX 3500, which you can see in the HDCP section. That card came out in May of 2006.
so what? Its a good card
Yeah its a good card
@@Tmtrnrit's ancient card cl-own, get real
@@Tmtrnrwas... it was a good card.
Sooo... the card that came out when the app was being designed then .... duh
90% chance the new app has a splash screen that takes just as long to load... and then there's padding, and everything's moved, or the good stuff is hidden because its 'too advanced'.
It loads faster because it auto starts in the background. Basically its cheating
Nope. It's noticeably faster than Geforce Experience, not to mention the horrid Control Panel. Also, why comment before watching? The video literally shows you the app starting up lol
@@HazewinDogstill the control panel is better
@@Luhineroke boomer
Look who tf is talking@@Spiritwonder420
I just spent a few hours scratching my head with this:
For anyone trying the Nvidia App and finding out the processor usage goes high for some cores:
If you configure the Nvidia Overlay to not show statistics (ALT + R shortcut), even if you choose not to use the overlay at all: This causes NVIDIA FrameView SDK service to go into a constant restart loop loading and unloading every second or so.
Setting the statistics to be in use solves this problem (the service stops restarting itself and stays on), even if you then disable the overlay completely.
what the fuck nvidia.
After some more testing it gets weirder than I previously thought.
After a windows restart the FrameView SDK service now starts bugging out if the Statistics is ON but the Overlay is OFF.
Setting both OFF seems fine, until I restart windows and that puts the FrameView SDK service back into a restart loop.
So it is different depending on what settings you have set before restarting or shutdown and after flipping the settings off/on.
What the actual? Did they just let their AI write the thing? XD
Does anyone if you read? It's "BETA", it's not supposed to be a finalized product to be delivered to the end user. You voluntarily downloaded the thing, you're supposed to give feedback when you see issues, not complain and laugh about it.
@@shinozaaakiiibeta or not any senior engineer worth his salt should maintain 80% test coverage throughout the process. that typically means writing unit tests for configuration flags is low hanging fruit, i have expectations of companies that pride themselves on quality
Wow, I wasn't expecting an update to the UI before we reached Windows 2098.
they are lying nvidia control panel is perfect very quick efficient, the new app is trash on the opposite...
I wasn't expecting any improvements in my lifetime.
😂😂😂
2098 as in the year or version number?
funny thing is its not even control panel its just another geforce experiance
Nvidia adrenaline edition
AMD and ATI made so much gui layer changes instead of fixing the drivers and finnishing them on time to launch day...they shloud add Templates like Winamp (that nobody remembers)... they have still so much to learn from redundant technology companies...too focused on monopoly... AMD is still fixing now driver bugs of Polaris, VEga, RDNA1 and 2 while finishing RDNA3 even for old games and cpus, but also for open source Mesa drivers or linux oem support... Nvidia needs to keep doing changes like this instead of fixing old cpu/games "driver overhead" or lose of frames when resolution is under game deveoloper's targeted 1440p and also over it as FPS are not scaling properly from 4060 to 4090 or 4090 can be too close to 7900XTX (Also scaling badly from 7600 many times and not showing full potential) or OpenGL or...
@@InternetListener Wtf do you mean bad drivers? What are you on? Where'd you hear this? It's all wrong
@@firkinflamer8604 the latest WHQL recommended 24.1.1 driver is a big mess. It has caused stutters and crashes in so many games for so many people and broke ReBar for some too. That's a bad driver. And they havent released a WHQL driver in over a month since then. There are preview drivers hidden in knowledge base articles with some fixes but that's not something easy for regular users to find. It's not a nice experience on AMD
@@InternetListener i own a 7800xt and haven't had any driver issues since before i switched from my 3070ti 💀
@@Boofener Same
But I wanna feel like I'm using Windows XP
virtual machine ftw
windows 98 actually debuted with the geforce 6 series drivers.
@@tek_lynx4225 You had GeForce 6 in 1998? 😉
There is a strong possibility new control panel gui feels like Windows 95, Me, 8/8.1/8.2, 11... the 3.11, NT 4.0, 98, 2000, XP, 7, 10... Nvidia HW has also long tradition on progress/deception on alternating cycles... 3.5 version may feel correct or by 2040 may be riding the success wave (like CUDA) while having the strongest need of starting on a blank canvas...
@@tek_lynx4225 - windows 95 with NVidia gpus (Riva to Geforce 5) "debuted" with plenty of new crashes for users to enjoy...
- Nvidia whatever 6 tends to be good, until RTX 40 debuted with mismatched names, chips, specs and model numbers... or used to tend to be good...
- the RTX 2000 Ada Genaration 16Gb (not to be confused with Quadro 2000, RTX 2000 or RTX A2000...) aka detuned RTX 4060 Super at 70W that should be called RTX 4050, as RTX A2000 6GB is a RTX 3050 6GB at 70W, not to be confused with RTX A2000 12 GB (3060 12GB) which successor is RTX 4060 Ti/Ti 16GB or RTX 4070 12GB (if we realize RTX 4000 sff 70W and RTX 4080M 16GB 150W are made on the same silicon as they debuted ) if you deOverclock from 200W to the 120 to 150W.
- Nvidia is in a loop of debuting. One debute leads to another debuted of the same, more or less confusing result as before.
The problem as a normal gamer was not that I need to register and login in order to update the drivers.
The problem is that the app constantly forgets your login and you need to login again!
Have had nvidia for many, many years and I only have had to log in again when I started windows with a clean install..
@@Lilly_An Consider yourself lucky then. Seems like every few versions Experience goes through stretches of time where it forgets my login every time I boot up. Very frustrating considering how unnecessary the login is.
First thing I noticed about the new UI is how there are like 3 things on the screen at the same with 90% of the screen just being blank. I get they're trying to make it look "clean" but nobody wants to move their mouse 5 kilometres to get to a different setting.
oh yeah, saving less than a second for a mouse move is so important. or maybe its just your 0.001dpi mouse
lol that was more funny then i expected that to be lol so sarcastic@@JacobsKrąnųg
Now all we need is Half Life 3
Funny you say that.....
And the witcher 4
@@bulletpunch9317 bruh witcher 4?
There's likely a higher chance of humans managing to land on mars than Half life 3 happening.
You mean 1.5-life?
Someone please explain the concept of information density to GUI devs. Having to scroll for miles through a list of settings that could have been 1/3 as long is not a good user experience even if it looks better.
The old nvcp also required scrolling. Even horizontal scrolling...
Yep... All modern devs suck at UI because of that. They don't have to work with limited resolutions so they make terrible UIs that give way too much real estate to non important graphical elements.
So much wasted space and everything is so large! I hate it!
And it triggers my dyslexia pretty bad as well. I hate it also because of that.
This, so much this. I upgraded from 15" to 21" to 27" to 32", and yet it feels like I'm seeing _less and less_ on my screen, because everything's adding infinite amounts of white space, banners, and decorations everywhere. It's like designers are constantly undoing all the technical progress to appease to people who can't handle more than two things in front of them, so everything should be spaced out, hidden, and collapsed, even if it makes everyone's life slower as a result...
exactly i really wonder how their nvidia control panel could be slow, i mean instantaneous is not slow, i bet the new app is sluggish
I didn't mind the old design since I'm old and I'm used to it. I did mind how absurdly slow it was. It took aged to launch, it took ages to switch pages within it and it took millenia to uply chosen settings.
Yep.. Feels like opening the files and edit them manually would be faster. If that would be possible, I might've started doing that, lol.
For the 3D settings, it's definitely possible to do it faster. Nvidia inspector did it wayyyyyy quicker.
I always think my pc is frozen for 5s after I hit apply lol
I hope this comment goes up to the top. People get pretty defensive about change, but it just sucked to tinker around with settings when every adjustment you make came with a couple seconds of the control panel freezing
what are you doing with you pc? the old nvidia control panel is instantaneous... are you have delirium or a fully bloated pc? maybe try it without geforce experience instead?
@@robertcarhiboux3164 never installed GFe
Number 1 issue I have is that it is unknown how many "features" will be available offline. While GeForce experience was build from the ground up with the "always online" theme (heck, it even requires you to login to nvidia account in order to use it at all) and I would also guess it collects user data, the old NV Controll Panel is 100% offline. You don't need nvidia account to change screen refresh rate lol. Also, GF Controll Panel started working slowly when Nvidia added GF Experience. And many times Nvidia was outright removing shortcuts to NV Controll Panel. For a very long time Nvidia wanted even advanced users to stop using NV Controll Panel. The are without a doubt using their monopolistic position to move a lot of features behind always on-line app and collect telemetry data on what settings we use for what game etc. At least, this is what I think about it. When it comes to big corporations, the reason they do anything is always the same - cash.
True company care only about money and control
Most people already know that the what to have as much data as possible in the order to selling those data
And send you advertising in multiple other company's.
I use NVCleanstall to update my Nvidia driver and you can modified what you want to install for your system & the Experience app use a lot of task in the background
NO NO NO. I don't want anything replacing the control panel that includes features from the GeForce Experience.
Don't care if the existing control panel looks outdated. BOOOOOO!
if they don't implement in-driver fan-curve and undervolting, it'll still suck
why should they do the work for the board manufacturers...its their job to provide proper controls for their hardware designs because they are VARIATIONS of the stock design using vastly different specs across the range of gpu models...from voltages, regulations, fan numbers, rgb, yadda yadda yadda. The driver would get so bloated that we would find people like you whining about 2 gb driver installs the day after your wish was forfilled.
@@TheInfidel_SlavaUA Bro has never seen Adrenalin Edition 😔
@@TheInfidel_SlavaUA Except all that is implemented in VBIOS according to Nvidia's specifications. Reading that out and providing override controls for it is trivial.
Would be nice.
I think NVIDIA wants to keep things safe and not annoy vendors with RMA's because little timmy overclocked his GPU or the fan curve didn't read correctly from the vendor and the fan motors burnt out.
It is going to be implemented:
"On our beta roadmap, we plan to offer AV1 support for Shadowplay, additional DLSS controls, extra overclocking options, and more."
Gonna be interesting to see how NVCleanstall deals with these changes.
Yep. If the new app turns out to be actually good I'll stop using Nvcleaninstall
Don't really need it these days nvidia does a pretty good job cleaning itself and installing fresh now
@@Peter-ve6gz You might be thinking of DDU, which is for cleaning out old drivers. NVCleanstall is mainly for customizing which components of a driver will be installed, plus there's a bunch of other useful tricks it can do.
Yeah I am gonna wait until they get something up and running for this before I switch over. I like to be able to use my custom settings with one click instead of manually doing a bunch of tweaks, like MSI Mode or whatever.
@@ThisSteveGuypeople don't even know how to tweak their cards..lol
Meanwhile me: Debloating nvidia drivers to exclude everything except video and audio drivers
What are the benefits
@@NeonT3tra25 none
@@NeonT3tra25 Not having a bloatware and spyware on your pc.
@@veduci22 Everything used on PC can spy your info, its not a big deal removing card drivers.
@@NeonT3tra25 It will increase FPS in game. In Microsoft Flight Simulator it can get you up to 5 FPS extra.
Will it allow to undervolt/overclock and control fan curve Nvidia GPUs like Radeon Adrenalin does? I mean why people must download separate software like MSI afterburner for it?
The hate on the control panel is crazy it literally works fine who cares if it looks outdated
The two main issues for me personally is the lack of a dark mode option and just how slow it feels compared to other apps on my system. If they just fixed those two things then I'd have no complaints
I have purposely avoided Geforce experience because of worries about telemetry. I am worried that I will no longer have the option once the control panel and gerforce experience are integrated
I wager that the 'no login' thing is there to lure people in and when the new platform is fully finished they'll revert back to requiring a login.
@@varmastiko2908same I also have that feeling.
I purposely never touched it because it wastes system resources to do something entirely unnecessary.
Never installed it either.
@@bricaaron3978Learn how to use control panel. It barely uses any resources at all. And if you know how to use a PC you can prevent it from running in the background...
Sadly the app is a downgrade from the nvidia control panel. It adds more clicks to get to the same settings, thus it is a UX downgrade. Form over function of what should be a utilitarian application.
There is no fps 1% lows monitoring anymore!!! Or maybe I just can't find it , but for me that was the most important metric on the old experience app.
I know i can always instal afterburner and riva tuner , but that's additional steps and in counter strike 2 , it requires the -allow_third_party_software launche option, which tanks my trust factor.
Didn't really mind the old panel UI, but good that they finally are updating the software package.
I must be in the minority. I have no problem with Nvidia Control Panel's "tree" layout. You can get to settings rather efficiently. I hope they don't end up doing a clickfest app, the way Windows has by moving away from Control Panel (which I like) to "Settings" (which I loathe).
Exactly. I am really glad Microsoft didn't completely ditch the Control Panel, but I still had to pin it to avoid using the Settings.
Now, in the matters of the app, I really hope Nvidia can match or even beat AMD's Adrenalin software. I have been using AMD for a while now and, though their softwares in the last 5 or so years weren't some greastest things ever, impresses me they were ahead in so many aspects as well.
Agreed.
That control panel was extremely slow and annoying even on powerful workstations!
Also i totally hate this design trend where settings just get saved when you change them, compared to you have to click "OK" or "Apply". Also i have the fear they make it worse as Mircosoft hides all the important settings in nested under menus because those are considered by todays avarage user as "too much" or "complicated" while it removes your ability to get control over things. People need to learn to use they brain, jesus.
@@PenkoAngelovThis. I could bear the 20 year old design if it at least wasn't unfathomably slow. I don't know why people are defending this level of corporate laziness.
I think it's going to be an issue for people that like debloating their nvidia drivers to include only things they need...if this is a replacement both for geforce experience and the old control panel, this means people that only need the control panel and not geforce experience will be stuck with this new program.
just skip the first 2 pages? if it's faster than the old, who cares what they offer elsewhere?
@@sumomaster5585Nvidia telemetry via GeForce experience is unreal
But this one is much faster than the old Control Panel. Im fine with it taking a bit more of HDD and RAM if it stops being so slow and laggy like the old control panel.
I'm one of these. I just want the Control Panel, which has no issues for me. Sure, it's old and clunky, but it does just what I want. GeForce Experience… is awful. A piece of bloatware. I want it away from my computer.
I just want the drivers, I don't need any fancy extras I'm never going to use.
i remember the day where suddenly i was presented with the login screen to use shadowplay that has been a very lightweight and stable feature for years, i was fuming, i nearly broke something in blind rage, glad those days seems to be in the past. I still wish they had a sRGB clamp feature since we're in 2024 and lots of monitor makers are still incompetent
Yes, literally the day i stopped using that feature. I quite liked shadowplay, and it will be nice to use it again.
Ai sales must be slowing down
One can dream
Very nice, but i'll only use when it's finish with all the features
did you check about how much the Nvidia App will collect and send Data (Telemetry)?
did you check if could be considered as Bloatware?
The No login sounds like a trap to lure as many as they can to the app.
It definitely is a move in the right direction but I hope they keep as much ot the functionality of NVCP as possible. Yes its slow but it is highly functional. Powerful and clear settings that just work. I hope they do this well.
let me guess half of the settings are gone now right? I'd rather have the old XP era app with all the features
And it’s just a matter of time before it gets bloated and full of ads.
I prefer the control panel. Simple. No bloat. No unnecessary features.
@Dr904 Yeah instead it's just slow as molasses.
My biggest point about a control panel, or in general any config tool is that things are compact and dense. And that was one thing the old control panel did well. It was just super slow and didn't scale well with window size.
What I want for the new control panel is a search function, native system UI, and going away from the form over function "modern" design. So nvidia, please double the density of the settings list. I'm not on a 5'' 4K touchscreen. I notice that in general, modern software basically requires stuff like that. Everything is gigantic with enormous bezels, graphics cards have noticeable banding in 24/32 bit color depth, antialiasing has become worse, effects are undersampled, the resolution you set isn't what the games run at...
And since they bring the ingame settings into the thing, if something allows for numeric values (either ingame or through the config file) let us enter numeric values.
why is it slow for you guys? i see the video my hdd loads it instantaneously why on their video it takes ages... their pc must be bloated or they trying to sell this trash app, i don' trust hardware unboxed anymore.
@@robertcarhiboux3164 My PC boots from a PCIe 3 NVMe and it still takes ages to load the control panel. My PC doesn't have any unnecessary bs installed either.
try maybe adwcleaner, zhpcleaner, rogue killer and eset online scanner with advanced threat, did you install only the driver, or do you have also geforce experience installed? this is not normal.@@itIsI988
@robertcarhiboux3164 why are you even here? Shouldnt you be playing games with your amazing AMD software?
I don't use AMD specifically because their software is fully bloated like new nvidia one... @@Dislob
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Few seconds faster to open. Lol. As if people are that impatient. Hope nvidia gives us the option to turn on the old design. Not everything's gotta be modern.
GREEN TEAM : Can i copy your homework?
RED TEAM: Yes but make it different ...
I really hope that shadow play can let me seperat all the different audio tracks of apps in the future. Would be a huge improvment to shadow play and would make OBS obsolete for me.
We got updated UI before GTA6 😭😭😭😭
i hope they dont remove any of the features from the old apps, often when companies switch from a more complex older looking control panel to a more modern looking one they also end up removing a lot of the options to simplify it
The Control Panel won't be removed until they port over every setting to the new app.
Should have had this 10 years ago. Always thought AMD Adrenalin looked way nicer which is indeed surprising for how cutting edge nvidia likes to push their features and software development. Glad to see it better late than never!
Can someone explain me why NVIDIA overlay can't show CPU temp even after all updates? Have to use 3rd party software because of it
I would pick the simplicity of the old layout any day over the modern marketing controlled new design
Honestly, after moving to AMD and getting used to the software suit and things it lets me do, one of the things that has kept me from really wanting to go back to Nvida was that I liked the AMD drivers more. If Nvidia finally updated theirs to something good, that shifts it back a bit again. Not being able to overclock and undervolt right in the same app keeps the driver package ball in AMD's court for me though. Yes, I can use Afterburner, but that's just more software that needs to be run.
Nvidia driver are better.
@De-M-oN For what exactly? The user experience is rather worse over AMD drivers, if the only metric is about using the control panel features. Can you even toggle G-sync on/off while the game is open? For AMD it's just Alt+R and the tuneable settings are within reach in matter of seconds.
I'm glad they're unifying the UI experience a bit more now, since it would be kinda pointless to even own a Nvidia GPU imho at that point, if you don't use Geforce Experience, since you're lacking so much in the features. Sure you can use inspector and other 3rd party software, but those aren't real fixes for the average user. Currently those settings are too split, so if you can get a better panel and overlay at all on the same place, it would be an actual upgrade on the user experience...
HELP! I have a Brazilian Lenovo Legion 2022 5i i7 12700H RTX3060 (and screen with 45% sRGB, something like this), and the images at games are so bad! Even playing in my television, the images doesn't have definition, sharpness, are worse (in this part) than at my Acer Aspire 5 Ryzen 7 5700u Integrated Graphics! How can this happen?!? I play at my TV, the resolution and fps are configured OK, everything's OK, but even at the TV the same image is better at Aspire than Legion!!! HELP ME! I use the Geforce Experience to improve sharpness at games, but doesn't get beautiful, it gets better but not beautiful, it gets exagerated!!! My Acer came perfect for using, my Lenovo even I changing things at NVIDIA Panel doesn't solve the question, the image barely change!
@@De-M-oNDude just be glad you're finally getting a decent control app.
Funny how after all this time they have now decided to change the UI. too many people choosing amd because of how good there UI is including me. It's brilliantly layed out and is super easy to navigate.
Amd are keeps ahead, there already pushing the boundaries with cpu,s on top of there gpus.....drivers are getting better and better,
Cheaper in price,Better performance.
Man, this was an informative video. Great job. I just downloaded the Nvidia App and it looks good and so far works great.
Old doesn’t always mean outdated. If it works, don’t change it. I personally don’t care about “modern UI”, especially for something you merely access every few months.
Sounds good to me as long as they actually include all of the settings and features from NCP and GFE
I've been manually installing my drivers for years now and plan on doing it for now. Only "app" I use from Nvidia is the NVCP, so I will be sticking with the control panel until they fully merge the settings from the control panel to the new app.
EDIT: Might even stay away from it when full release arrives if they will still "force" stuff like ansel down your throat etc.
Please tell me how to do that, I've dealt with far too many telemetry options for too long
The NVCP files are embedded in the current installer's Display.Driver component and it can be backed up for the future occasion of it being removed. Hopefully it will continue to function as normal.
Have you noticed a different process with Highlights with this app? Before with GeforceExperience, temp highlights were saved in a different location and only once "saved", would move in to a dedicated shadowplay folder. It seems with this new app, the temp highlights are already in the dedicated shadowplay folder. Hope that makes sense! Basically the ability to store temp highlights in a different folder that are not "saved" has gone. Have you found this too? Thanks
No mention of RTX HDR? Something new I haven't seen before (in the Nvidia app).
Functionality > Looks
is there a color adjustment screen on the new app or will that be on the older CP?
Forcing users to log in had to be one of Nvidia's most braindead moments ever.
The main reason I've chosen AMD in the past. Well done nvidia.
Finally nvidia! Now add undervolt and overclock feature so we no longer need afterburner.
What happened to the "no log in" part? All of us idiots started to believe it.
Honestly, I love how "dated" the control panel is. It works and stuff, but it's been like that forever... it's just pure nostalgia.
Yes, the NVidia app has been available for download for several days already. But I still miss the Radeon Software. It is so good compared to NVidia's offering.
Dunno, control panel just works and is quick to navigate. I prefer that over radeon software or this new app.
I'm convinced Nvidia is paying you and others to say this. It's not all moved over from control panel. This new app is still bloatware. Without a login. Nobody needs it or should use it.
This actually got me considering getting a nvidia gpu
Wow. About time they follow up on AMD's amazing Adrenalin Drivers UI... That forced login and horrendous UI split controls was the one thing I hated the most from switching to NVIDIA from years of AMD cards.
Old gee has been finally laid to rest after 2 decades. The old software has been live and kicking since Windows XP era. RIP
rip nvidia, nvidia's driver utils were great because they were built on stability for such a long time, with no fancy widget garbage.
I hope they have fixed the bug about the thing sometimes recording other monitors instead of the main one. If it needs to be able to record something else, it should be controllable and understandable to use
What about all the advanced graphic settings I can tune with the nvidia Profile Inspector? Will it still be compatible with this new control panel?
Also about the "obsolete settings". Those settings are still used by old (pre 2010) games...
I have a feeling we retro gamers are gonna have even an harder time making old games work...
Honestly, I still prefer the old NVIDIA Control Panel. Literally all I wanted was a dark mode of the same thing.
linux had that for their version. which is pretty much the exact same thing
Some games like Granblue Fantasy Relink, when you turn HDR on in the NVIDIA app the game just doesn't boot up at all.
Very sad :(
It appears to be missing the nVidia Shield integration for Gametream/Moonlight
Its a beta
The control panel is fine. It's clean, tidy, and does what it needs to.
I used Nvidia for those full 18 years that the control panel exists. Never used Nvidia experience software, and never missed any possible setting. Only thing this change will do, is force everyone to use their data collection software version. Even though you do not have to log in, data collection is still done.
The login process also makes it hard for not so techy people. I'm happy with this
Wonder why they did not include the ability to change the physical gpu settings, like fan curvature maxium power for undervolting ect?
**NOTE** I just extensively tested the RTX HDR, i do NOT recommend it. Firstly. you can NOT have 2 monitors connected (or more than 1) Secondly, at least in the game i tested it in, which does not have its own HDR, and i have been using Windows Auto HDR for a long time. the windows HDR looks better. RTX HDR makes the characters faces look Ghostly. its boosting the wrong colors or weird detection of what to highlight and to what level. the AI needs better training etc. in fact you can do something cool and lower the "Grey Mids" slider all the way to 1, and see what exactly its highlighting and detecting as needs HDR boosts.
Comparing the 2, Windows Auto >
and also im not leaving my 2nd monitor unplugged to continue to use it, even IF it was the same quality or even better quality. that has to be a bug or something they figure out. this can not be for single monitor users only....
Logins are used to gather user data... They just figured how to collect whatever data and user activity they need in the background without the need for the user's manual login.
They never cared for "user feedback" or complaints. All they care are the sweet sweet profits and precious data.
Turn the captions on for the intro "welcome back to hard R box" youtube is memeing.
Nice, next we want AV1 support for Shadowplay recordings...
funny how this update happened the same month I sold my 1070 and switched to a 6700xt cause I was tired of geforec experience and wanted better performance for the money
I have impeccable timing as always
Glad to see Nvidia finally catch up to AMD software and get us into a GUI that doesn't look ancient.
Honestly while this is a step in the right direction this Software is still ages away from what the AMD Adrenalin Software has at the moment.
I'd hope that the idea is to eventually make this Software have more or less the same Feature Set that the AMD Software has, and improve the UI to make it look snappier and more modern.
Because yeah, it looks better than the old control panel, but it could be much, much better. Atm it looks like a 2018 Basic UI
I hope they manage to find a way to integrate DLSS into this app to make it a driver level feature.
that would make no sense.. what would it be even used for like old games which didnt have upscalers?
@@Ciffer-1998 "what would it be even used for like old games which didnt have upscalers" - it could inject an upscaler after rendering is done. Some older games doesn't even have a proper depth buffer... that could be a problem tho xD
RTX HDR is now official and supported in the NVIDIA App!
This DOES NOT exchange the NV control panel. Its till INSIDE this app.
Go to settings....look at the bottom.
The Nvidia Control Panel is easy to navigate, because it's all just hyperlinks text that expand on the left. Zero advertisements and giant full page photos all over designed to make you stop and look and slow you down to buy something.
I want to update to this new app, but one crucial function I use is Nvidia GameStream which I use to Stream my PC to my Android TV box in my room - Does this new Nvidia app have GameStream?
No memory usage review... no resourses on services created comparison, so sad.
Have you strategically placed them 2 black things behind you so they look like bat ears?
Current/old version is totaly King! no fancy BS gfx just settings its perfect!
is it easier to configure surround ( when i want to game on my 3 monitors as 1 screen ) and switch back off when i want to be productive( monitors act as 3 seperate screens )
I think I still prefer AMD’s Adrenalin app but this is a big step up for Nvidia. The geforce experience and control panel separation was a big reason for my AMD gpu preference.
Looks so clean! Let's just hope it doesn't remove features or regress in any way from the current system!
All the 551.XX drivers are scaling/stretching a 16:9 image to fill my 32:9 monitor, no matter what I have the scaling options set to. I've always ran no scaling performed on display and has worked fine. 16:9 images displayed as 16:9 on my 32:9 monitor. Very frustrating.
I have no idea why people are celebrating the beta. Severely functionally restricted. The market leader is releasing a beta after 18 years and will certainly need months until the final version. Unworthy of a market leader with its software capabilities. The Adrenalin software has already been optimized/revised several times in the 18 years it took Nvidia for a beta. You can celebrate the new app when it is final in month and than is eventually competitive with Adrenalin Software.
This is literally the one Software Change that should've been highest priority for a good time now, let's goo
Considering how Nvidia is practically more about software than hardware at this point, it's amazing it took this long to have a decent looking control panel
the shadowplay doesnt save audio setting changes like changing your mic!
”No log in". That's all we need for all hardware managing apps.
the statistic overlay still buggy sometimes, the gpu speed and usage sometimes wont updated
The new interface is amazing but it still needs a bit of work as the old nvidea control panel is still present in the system because the new one is lacking some settings
There should be a search function in the settings.
"doesn't contain all of it's features yet"
Yeah..login coming SOON
The dynamic vibrance looks terrible, theres somehow even compression artifacts i can notice while ingame. im def just gonna continue using vibrancegui instead.
Otherwise though, this app looks and feels great