Charles Hornady said in one of his old loading manuals, if a Man could get a. 177 caliber pellet running 5,000 fps, you could drop an Elk with it, Great video thumbs up
I see you guys haven't uploaded in 7 months, are you planning on making more videos? I enjoy the laid back, normal straight talk and your Father/Son relationship. Please don't stop now, I just subscribed lol... Thanks for all you have made so far, definitely hope to see more!!!
Great video guys! Just sub'd! So I ran a similar test with the .35 cal over on UpNorth Airgunner, but what I have found is that barrel length matters more to utilize longer barrel dwell time by runing heavier ammo at higher pressures. With other big bore airguns unregulated the valve is often held open longer with the backpressure of the slug in the barrel. Since you are running a relatively light weight projectile for that caliber it might be leaving the barrel so quickly it can't build up that barrel pressure. Try running that same test with some 45 grain to 50 grain slugs at a high reg pressure. Again - great video and I love the ending. I have a few Caldwell "4 pointers" hung in my gun room as trophies too. They taste a little game-y but make for great wall hangers! LOL!
Got a good laugh from chrono lol. I shot mine back in the summer with a 5.56. Afterwards I broke down and bought the new FX radar and love it. So easy to use just sit it on the table next to me.
Oh my Goodness! I laughed SO HARD when you said, "That's an interesting shape that you drew!" Great shooting Guys!!!!!!!!!😃😃😃 I literally had tears laughing so hard when you shot the chronograph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Do longer barrels matter?" Yes and no. It depends what you're trying to achieve. Longer barrels will generally net you more velocity at a lower pressure- i.e. more efficiency. Typically, you CAN get the same velocities with shorter barrels, but you'll be spending more air to do it (it'll also be louder). In both cases, there's limitations. There's a point of diminishing returns with barrel length- i.e. too long, and you're doing more harm than good. With short barrels, depending on the projectile you're trying to launch and the target velocity, you may not have enough barrel to get there. It's all a balancing act.
Since you guys both have that rail under the bottle, it might be worth getting a mount to put your chronograph there instead of on the barrel. Then you could check accuracy at the same time since it won’t mess with barrel harmonics from it hanging there. Nice rifles, I think they’re both setup well. Makes me want to pick up an M3 and sell my old one.
I've shot my Chronograph probably 15 times. But they all skimmed off the top and didn't do any damage, you are in no way the first to do that. It's a very easy thing to do because of the bore / scope plane discrepancy. I also wanted to mention the first shot you took at 958, and left it out as an outlier, is something you need to consider normal. When you shoot the air and plenum get really cold, so when the gun sits, that air gets back up to ambient temperature and obviously becomes more pressure. So, the cold regulated air left in your plenum, once warmed back up. is actually a higher pressure than it should be, and it becomes slightly harder for the valve to open. So the reason I say you should consider it normal, is because if you are hunting, it's the first shot that matters and so you need to figure out how to correct for this without taking a few dry fires. Maybe 2 clicks more hammer spring or something, but you get what I'm saying. You said you were thinking about lubing slugs, I lube all my ammo. I use a bowl with a cloth draped over it that is pretty saturated in super lube, food grade silicon, and poor the whole tin in and roll it around like you are panning for gold, keep the cloth sort of tight so to make it like a trampoline. This puts a very even coat of lube and gets off any of the lead dust or flakes.
Presuming the valve adjuster was set properly for the 700mm, with all other settings being the same, it needs to be opened a bit more to maximize the 800mm.
Thank you two. I've been wondering what that 800mm .25 barrel does for a while now. I'm wondering if you'll get a bigger increase with a higher reg pressure and more hammer?
Smart kid, Velocity is speed with direction. You should refer to the speed of the pallet as speed, not a velocity. Btw, most of the settings that the dad read out were pointless. The big wheel setting means nothing, as the micro wheel setting covers the whole range of hammer spring tension, so only the reading from the micro wheel makes any difference. Also, the front reg reading doesn't mean anything either when it comes to pellet speed, the only thing it controls is how quickly the second regulator fills up!
Charles Hornady said in one of his old loading manuals, if a Man could get a. 177 caliber pellet running 5,000 fps, you could drop an Elk with it, Great video thumbs up
I see you guys haven't uploaded in 7 months, are you planning on making more videos? I enjoy the laid back, normal straight talk and your Father/Son relationship. Please don't stop now, I just subscribed lol... Thanks for all you have made so far, definitely hope to see more!!!
Just found your channel 👍
Great video guys! Just sub'd! So I ran a similar test with the .35 cal over on UpNorth Airgunner, but what I have found is that barrel length matters more to utilize longer barrel dwell time by runing heavier ammo at higher pressures. With other big bore airguns unregulated the valve is often held open longer with the backpressure of the slug in the barrel. Since you are running a relatively light weight projectile for that caliber it might be leaving the barrel so quickly it can't build up that barrel pressure. Try running that same test with some 45 grain to 50 grain slugs at a high reg pressure. Again - great video and I love the ending. I have a few Caldwell "4 pointers" hung in my gun room as trophies too. They taste a little game-y but make for great wall hangers! LOL!
Got a good laugh from chrono lol. I shot mine back in the summer with a 5.56. Afterwards I broke down and bought the new FX radar and love it. So easy to use just sit it on the table next to me.
Oh my Goodness! I laughed SO HARD when you said, "That's an interesting shape that you drew!" Great shooting Guys!!!!!!!!!😃😃😃 I literally had tears laughing so hard when you shot the chronograph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Longer barrels matter to me!!! Heck, I will always want a Quigley down under barrel ! 💯
"Do longer barrels matter?" Yes and no. It depends what you're trying to achieve. Longer barrels will generally net you more velocity at a lower pressure- i.e. more efficiency. Typically, you CAN get the same velocities with shorter barrels, but you'll be spending more air to do it (it'll also be louder). In both cases, there's limitations. There's a point of diminishing returns with barrel length- i.e. too long, and you're doing more harm than good. With short barrels, depending on the projectile you're trying to launch and the target velocity, you may not have enough barrel to get there. It's all a balancing act.
Wow been a while, thumbs up 👍🏻
Behind the scenes blooper at end of video is classic!!! 😂
Since you guys both have that rail under the bottle, it might be worth getting a mount to put your chronograph there instead of on the barrel. Then you could check accuracy at the same time since it won’t mess with barrel harmonics from it hanging there. Nice rifles, I think they’re both setup well. Makes me want to pick up an M3 and sell my old one.
Niiiiiiice! That rifle looks fantastic! How's that ST grip feel? Is it bulkier than the original MK3's grip? (More comfortable?)
I've shot my Chronograph probably 15 times. But they all skimmed off the top and didn't do any damage, you are in no way the first to do that. It's a very easy thing to do because of the bore / scope plane discrepancy. I also wanted to mention the first shot you took at 958, and left it out as an outlier, is something you need to consider normal. When you shoot the air and plenum get really cold, so when the gun sits, that air gets back up to ambient temperature and obviously becomes more pressure. So, the cold regulated air left in your plenum, once warmed back up. is actually a higher pressure than it should be, and it becomes slightly harder for the valve to open. So the reason I say you should consider it normal, is because if you are hunting, it's the first shot that matters and so you need to figure out how to correct for this without taking a few dry fires. Maybe 2 clicks more hammer spring or something, but you get what I'm saying. You said you were thinking about lubing slugs, I lube all my ammo. I use a bowl with a cloth draped over it that is pretty saturated in super lube, food grade silicon, and poor the whole tin in and roll it around like you are panning for gold, keep the cloth sort of tight so to make it like a trampoline. This puts a very even coat of lube and gets off any of the lead dust or flakes.
Presuming the valve adjuster was set properly for the 700mm, with all other settings being the same, it needs to be opened a bit more to maximize the 800mm.
Thank you two. I've been wondering what that 800mm .25 barrel does for a while now. I'm wondering if you'll get a bigger increase with a higher reg pressure and more hammer?
Longer Barrel always yeild higher velocities. Because the pellet is under pressure for a longer period of time. DER😊
Smart kid, Velocity is speed with direction. You should refer to the speed of the pallet as speed, not a velocity. Btw, most of the settings that the dad read out were pointless. The big wheel setting means nothing, as the micro wheel setting covers the whole range of hammer spring tension, so only the reading from the micro wheel makes any difference. Also, the front reg reading doesn't mean anything either when it comes to pellet speed, the only thing it controls is how quickly the second regulator fills up!
Desde Patagonia Argentina 🇦🇷. Para asegurar una agrupación, no debieron colocarle el CHRONY en el cañon...
Why only a 20 bar difference between 1st and 2nd reg?
your plenum has a slow refill time probably because of the extra regs. you will need to count to 5 between shots to keep the shots consistent