The Importance of Repetition in Language Learning
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0:00 - Repetitive listening and Stephen Krashen's theory of language acquisition.
2:19 - There are things we will not notice when listening and reading, and that's why repetition is key.
4:07 - The benefits of repeatedly listening to a limited range of content.
5:46 - I have been listening repeatedly in my Persian studies.
7:59 - Repeated listening and reading will help you learn the basics in a language.
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"Neurons that fire together wire together" said Canadian neuroscientist Donald Hebb in 1949. I'm not a neuroscientist but I believe that is a big reason why repetitive listening to a limited range of content needs to be a part of our language learning strategy.
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This is a best lesson Mr Steve. May I take class from you? Joe
Seu português é muito bom. Foi ótima sua participação no canal da Carina.
Congratulations, You Rock.
Uncle dawy says short time memory will be to 14days.....
"Grease the Groove" said Pavel Tsatsouline. I came across the Hebbian theory yesterday regarding how to increase my pull-up repititions. What a coincidence and now I am gonna grease the groove with language learning too. Thanks
My fav was Goodfellas when I was learning English. By the time I got to my 200th time, I sounded almost like a good American citizen!😂
I did the same for Spanish, which I mastered it in 3 months.☺
For Cantonese, I bought a stiff, straight, decent, expensive textbooks. It's been 20 yrs and I still don't speak it. Big mistake!😢
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." - Bruce Lee.
Kick boxing and athletics are different from brain training.
@@sleepsmartsmashstress8705 muscle memory and fast reaction hit first 👊
@@JuanPablo_RDM With a single well-rehearsed strike? Nah, you need to have absorbed a lot of variety. which is why the analogy falls short.
Powerful 👊
Arjen Robben
I used to have these cassettes that are sold with textbooks. I would listen to them over and over again to the point where i could recite everything by heart. This was before i even started the course. In the first lesson my teacher wanted to play sth from the cassette and i said there was no need cause i had it all memorised. The teacher was astonished when she heard me recite the lesson. She said i sounded like a British child (i am Polish and was 10 years old at the time). I had successfully acquired RP accent simply by listening and imitating what i heard repeatedly.
I admire your discipline and perseverance!
thank you
How many languages did you learn by this method later in life?
In second language acquisition research, it’s called “narrow listening/reading” that involves repeated exposure to the same genre of text where learners come across the same language features and vocabulary over and over, which leads to their knowledge consolidation.
The trick to data consolidation in the brain is interval training. I study Chinese for an hour or two only on Saturdays. Japanese and Korean on Sundays and so on. Over 4-5 years I am fluent. Magic?
Psycholinguistic research shows that interval training (distributed practice) is more effective in developing declarative/explicit knowledge, whereas intensive training (massed practice) is more likely to contribute to proceduralization/automatization of learned knowledge, which plays its role in time pressured situations as in conversations.
@@WVCA32 interval training is more effective
Two things form a very strong connection in your brain to remember something: repetition and emotion
Exactly, that's so true, music is very powerful because match both things
repetition and emotion
@@sleepsmartsmashstress8705 He already said that.
I've always enjoyed listening to Dr. Martin Luther king Jr speeches, and sometime I found myself talking like someone from the South (USA) in the 1960's. " I have a dream"
That makes a lot of sense. I have a Thai friend who learned English just by listening to music. I thought that was amazing! But now that I think about, she has her favorite 20 songs or so that she's probably listened to countless times. Complete mastery, of a limited amount of vocabulary, seems to be very powerful
thanks for the insight
You can't learn a language just by listening I think. You have to practise speaking. In music you often don't understand what is said even in your language, it's no clear speaking, depends on the music style.
@@weichmacher3973 You only have to practice speaking if you want to get good at speaking the language. But if you're just learning a language to be able to understand it and read it, then you don't need to ever speak.
@@joshuasamuel2122 speaking is the most important I think. You can have social life, friends, talking to strangers, asking for help in your mother tongue in your own country without needing to read or write, if you need to know what's written in a letter then ask someone. If you just want to consume media, read in other languages and you don't want to visit the country or talk to people from that country in your place then you don't need to speak.
@@weichmacher3973 Once you get a big amount of passive vocabulary by listening and reading, speaking comes naturally. You just have to expose yourself to conversational situations and you we be able to speak. In the beggining, with a more limited vocabulary, but you gonna improve fast, in some weeks your gonna be way better cause you already have a large understanding of the language.
If you have a little amount of input, maybe you can speak, but you have little room to grow your output. If you have big amount of input, you already have a large base, which means much more room to grow your output.
This is a very important aspect of language learning that very often gets overlooked but in my opinion is very helpful
Overlooked by who? Repetition is the key to master anything, sports, music, language, dance or any other skill. Most people know this but dont have the motivation to follow through.
@@WillGGG They mean it's often overlooked in language learning specifically, not in those other things.
Excellent video. I'm an American now living in Japan for 11 years. I passed the JLPT N1 7 years ago. I HATE language programs that downplay repetition, offering sweet lies about how their program will make people "fluent" with no effort. Anything too good to be true is and a language, like any other skill, takes thousands of hours of dedicated, deliberate practice and mindful repetition is key for fluent use (as it is with sports, music and any swift recollection.) I have so many friends and acquaintances that skim a work book a couple hours a week, think they are on the brink of fluency, then speechless (get it?) when they find they can't communicate even simple thoughts.
I couldn't agree with you more Steve. I've been studying English for 6 years and now I'm trying to learn Russian. I'm studying a text with audio in Russian with the English translation and I will repeat this text 2000 times until the language Russian makes sense to me.
Great video. Thanks a lot!
Could you please share the audiobook you're reading with me?
Oh, that's great! If you need some help with Russian you can get in touch with me. I speak it fluently. Best of luck to you :)
Try agreeing a little more, just a little. There is always room for slight improvement. Steve will appreciate that a lot.
You wont need 2000 reps, just 200 would be enough. Russian is not that hard to learn.
@@sleepsmartsmashstress8705 I think I need to repeat 20000 times instead of 2000 to learn this extraterrestrial language.
This comes down to the idea of Knowing vs Being Good At something. People often think knowing is the goal but it's actually well short of the goal. Being good takes lots and lots of repetition to engrain language in our minds so that we don't even have to think.
You have no idea how relieved I am to hear what you had to say about everything being incomprehensible at first. I'm just starting the journey into learning Russian (my first foreign language other than a Spanish class I didn't care about in high school), and I have been struggling so hard to find comprehensible input. Right now most of what I read and hear I'll understand maybe 10-25% of it. It's slowly increasing as I read and listen more and occasionally stopping to look up repeated words or terms that I don't know.
As a fellow polyglot I would have to add that it's not just Chinese people who hold onto their native accent when learning another, it is almost everyone who learned a second language as an adult. It is extremely rare to hear people speak in a learned language without a trace of their own accent, no matter how strongly they hold themselves out there as having accomplished it.
Repeation is the mother of the skill as Tony Robbins likes to say
Repeated listening is very effective, I experienced that again and again while studying foreign languages. It helped me tremendously.
Moses had a video years ago where he showed that he listened to the same lesson audio like 7 or 10 times a piece before moving on. Always seemed to make some sense to me, although I never tried it
If it continues being heard/read the brain considers it "vital" and allots a different pathway.
I think I remember a video where he talked about listening to introductory audio dialogues like hundreds or thousands of times total.
Same
After two years of inconsistent studying I just implemented that technique into my study habit.
So I'm doing Korean for beginners by hippocrene lesson 1 until I am able to write down what I hear and speak it at the same level as a native.
Even though I've been studying Chinese on and off for two years I'm going to start over and use an elementary textbook and practice that just the same as I do with Korean.
I am a better reader then I am a speaker with both languages.
Whenever I am around a native I get social anxiety and I forget everything that I've learned😂
I am sorry but who is person ? I am not native english speaker!
@@Daud438 Moses McCormick. He was pretty big in the online polyglot community. Died a couple years back, unfortunately
That’s s the key answer to getting fluent…….Compelling input goes hand in hand with repetition. There are people with limited vocab but good fluency and pronunciation….. they use repetition
I feel hugely excited to hear that you, Steve, adhere to the exact same point of view as I. Appreciate your work! Thanks 🙂
Thank you for your videos 🙏 i study English with you... when I feel frustrated i always come here to listen you and after that I feel more motivated again...
Thanks, Steve! I completely agree! There is a saying in Russian, "Повторение -- мать учения"--Repetition is the mother of learning. If you watch young children learn, their constant "jabbering" is exactly that- imitating and repeating words and phrases over and over.
I'm tackling languages 6 and 7 (Hebrew and Mandarin) this year and repetition is just as important now as it was over 5 decades ago when I started on number 2 (German).
Electronic tools are a huge help, but we have to beware of "connected" devices! I've found the IPOD (not IPAD or iPhone) to be an indispensable tool for listening to recorded content. No distractions- just me and the music (or dialogue, or audiobook).
Best,
Val
So true about the iPod. I remember loading up my old Nano w/ German lectures and listening repeatedly on walks. I barely use German at all now but much of that material has stuck with me.
Also, that's an old saying from Latin: 'repetitio mater scientiarum' 🙂
Thanks Steve, you continue to support in my mind what I believe to be true and what is helping me learn Greek!
How courageous your advice for us as leaner . Repetition is the mother of skill
I'm try learn english and your videos are one of the best things that i've found here in youtube to do this, Thank you Steve, You're the best.
Very very good Steve. I've started on French in the last few weeks. As Steve says many pop songs, music from long ago comes back and I'm surprised I know the words. You know there's many many people peddling language learning theories but I think Steve's simple formula is the best. I've been studying Korean for more than a decade. I've really struggled there. I think I overwhelmed myself with trying to learn 5,000 words without really focussing on repetition of what I did know.
Bonjour. Je viens de découvrir votre chaîne.
C est très formatrice et pédagogique.
Vous êtes juste excellent!
Thank you very much, Mr. Kaufmann. I'm cuban, and I've never been in an english - speaking country. But following you and other channels, I can manage to understand all your content, even without subtitles.
This is very insightful. Thanks. It validates my approach to Japanese and Spanish where I'm focusing on repetition
This is solid gold advice. Straight up brilliant
You're right. It's so important for second and foreign language learners!
This is the essence of language learning. Thank you for reminding me!
Would you like a few reminders to use the repetition theme under consideration?
I've been utilising repetition more often with both listening & reading content over the last 3 months. I've definitely noticed an improvement in acquiring my target language.
Thank you for the advice. Repetition has helped me to get a better pronunciation.
Thanks a lot for your sharing! What I got from the video is "quality than quantity", concentration and patient.
Thank you very much for all these advices.
Excellent content Steve, keep it up this good job and thank you so much for all these tips. Regards from Brazil, Ana!
Finally, I've found the video that I was looking for in order to be able to trust you. Thank you for this.
Thanks for presenting this helpful, practical approach.
This is a great lesson Steve. I use the same strategy, I've got like 20 french lessons in my LingQ cue and I've gone back to them now for over two years! If you think about it, that's probably all you really need to do because we only use the same 10k words everyday and those words come up a LOT.
In those 20 lessons though there's 10k words???
I do a similar thing but a bit more old fashioned with just normal books. I try to find short story books but not adapted texts. Real books made for natives.
@@hatersgotohell627 : Yeah you would be surprised how many words there are in even one story, let alone 20.
@@hatersgotohell627 Yeah! If you download an hour long podcast that covers a variety of topics. I've listened to the same 3 episodes of a podcast I'd say, 200 times and it's amazing what it's done for my progression.
@@ryanjorgensen9450 I don't understand though how you can get 10k words from even an 1 hr podcast. Most words get repeated.
This is very helpful. It boost my confidence and enhance my
self-esteem.
I was suspicious of repeating what I was listening to in the past, as if it will not get me anywhere. For example if I am B2 probably I will be no more than B2.after listening to the same material.
However, what I noticed was that if you into learning spoken English that's fine you can learn from the listening of spoken Material like Cambridge IELTS series. But, you should keep in mind they will never help you academically, especially in the writing and reading sections. Moreover, it doesn't guarantee a sufficient score in the speaking part of the test.
On other hand, for some other languages, spoken language is just like written language, of course unlike English.
.. I hope you upload more vedios so that we can catch more from you...
Thank you so much!
Indeed so valuable advice. Really appreciate.
Actually i wanted to learn japanese and spanish but only been watching your videos. Now i am able to watch and understand Movies in english 🤣 Thank you
When you've memorized the same sentence in different languages. Thank you Mini Stories! I've cut down on italki and focused more on listening and reading before I take another italki class it just makes more sense to me to be able to ask questions during the sessions rather than waiting for the tutor.
Thanks Steve. I always do new lessons but now I will rinse and repeat
HI Steve, Thank you so much for sharing this!!
That is something that really can help I start repeating a tv show in Japanese and I learn some new words that usually I couldn’t use it or knowing the meaning and the pronunciation improve too
Thanks you very much sir for everything you do for us
Couldn't agree more, Steve. It really is about time people started admitting that there is a lot more to language learning (please excuse me if I refuse to use the term 'acquisition') than Stephen Krashen's comprehensible input theory. It is obvious that reading is bound to improve one's language skills, but why look upon the comprehensible input hypothesis and the skill building approach (which includes repetition) debate as a '40 years' war' when these two approaches could easily be considered to complement each other?
Thanks, Mr. Kaufmann. Very useful.
This is why podcasts are probably the best format to learn , because if you can find one at your level each podcast will be slightly different but will have the same patterns, do you like this or that ?what I did today , my thoughts on this and so on . Keeping you engaged not needing to go back to listen to it again just another podcast with another subject
Hello Steve, I really appreciate your tips and that is helpful for me!
Thank you..
I did repetitive listening with Effortless English courses. A.J. says you have to stay for a week with one lesson, but I find it more interesting to go to the next lesson earlier and then come back to the previous one. Listening for a week to the same audio gets a bit boring and you lose concentration.
@UCfaMaGWBDg4X4yCLhKJ9Sdg I find choosing two or three audios and alternating them is the best approach. And maybe it depends on your level and the difficulty of the material. The lessons I was doing were quite easy for me.
Different strokes for different folks Human brains are unique like finger prints. Hearts Each person is his or her own best teacher.
I must agree with this! The only difference is that I find that it does have to be compelling, at least for me. I've been watching Darling in the Franxxx for a while now. I've probably watched episode 1 ten times already, often back to back. Even after moving on, I reach a certain point and then return to the first episode again. Right now I'm at episode 13 and I'll probably go back to the first one after a few more episodes. I also find that I can repeat the same episode back to back as long as I don't finish the episode. I now understand a lot of the dialogue in episode 1. So personally, I need the content to be compelling for my brain not to get bored.
Thank you, Steve!
Muito bom 👍 eu faço isso, a repetição audível é algo que realmente caleja o cérebro a diminuir o sotaque nativo.
Hi.
I've been learning German the last three years. I've agreed with Steve whenever I heard him speak of comprehensible input, and I focused my study almost exclusively on reading and listening, since I also live in the US..
But whenever I try to repeat parts or whole sentences from memory while reading my books, I seem to develop an ability to use the correct grammar, and words that I know find an opportunity to be brought out from my own memory.
I'm changing my method and put this in the center of my work..
Loving LingQ, Steve. I was watching one of your videos on learning multiple languages at a time, and you were doing this experiment where you would focus on Persian for 3 months, then another language for 3 months, and yet another language for 3 months, before returning back to Persian. That was a couple of years ago, and I'm curious if you felt that helped you learn multiple languages at once. I only ask because I'm getting a little bored with my Italian studies and would like to perhaps start Japanese, but I don't want to lose what I've gained with the Italian.
Repetition is important for everything that we want to learn. Thank you Sr.
A very good video. Very helpful. Will try this method to improve my Japanese.
I have learnt English with repeating long phrases from news and songs. Now I learning Italian by the same way which is very effective to get the right pronunciation and sentences.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom...
ممنونم. ویدیوی بسیار جالبی بود.
Sounds great! Thanks for this useful tip!
in my mind listening to those simple things over and over again is like when you're a child and your parents say the same things to you for months or years when you're first starting to speak your first language. Listening to that basic content multiple times and returning back to it is sort of stimulating everyday simple speech that would be used on a daily basis. You're just substituting everyday speech with listening to the same content over and over again.
The intensive French course at Yale in 1986 was watching the movie Jules et Jim the whole semester. I can still recite lines from that film from memory. No, the film didn't have subtitles in English or in French.
Very useful info. Thank you!
Great video. Thank you. I agree with you. .
There is something poetic about reading the same book over and over. It is as if one is treating the book as a human person - a universe unto itself -- an end unto itself. One might think that the exercise would have the quality of the dullness or machine-like inhumanity of a grind. On the contrary, there is something of art in thoughtful engaged repetition. Like a perfect musical composition, listening to it for the hundredth time, one listens to it for the first time. A work of artistic merit is a universe unto itself! Like a universe which, in its relation to the subject, evokes the quality of inexhaustible infinitude.
"We have at our disposal as many worlds as there are original artists, worlds more different one from the other than those which revolve in infinite space." - Marcel Proust
It's kind of like listening to the same song over and over, regardless whether you like the song or not, you will definitely remember the lyrics to the song you are repetitively listening to
The core idea of this video goes in alignment with A.J. Hoge's method of learning the language. I have recently started following his lessons and instead listening to voluminous number of materials I just focus on a few that I like.I can see or feel your point about neurons that wire together and I am willing to listen at least 10 times to the same video.
Muchas Gracias por compartir. Saludos desde el Norte de México.
Hey Steve. this amazing video is being recommended for the The Ottowa Newcomer Health Center in its article, & steps to overcome the language barrier.. Al fin estan reconociendo lo importante de repetir y escuchar!!!!
Wir sind einig. Ich schaue die Literarische Quartett an und kehre zu den Episoden zurück, vorzugsweise die mit Marcel Reich-Raniki. Seit ich diese Wiederholung angefangen bin, sind mein Wortschatz, und wie du gesagt hast, meine Aussprache verbessert. Man übernimmt die gewöhnheiten und Betönungen der Muttersprachler.
hi steve! nice to see you again
I do the same.I agree with you 100%
It's interesting from the perspective of the unconscious mind and how we think we know versus how we actually know. There's a theory of "morphic resonance" which is very interesting in its relationship to learning.
Great teacher!
señor kaufmann eres usted un inspiracíon
What you said about how the brain is wiring itself from repeated listening reminds me of The book 'The Talent Code' by Daniel Coyle. I don't know if you've read that, Steve? He talks about myelin (like a sheath) in the brain, which acts as an insulator, allowing electrical impulses to transmit more quickly and efficiently along nerve cells. The thicker the sheath of myelin, the better one will be at performing the task for which the extra myelin was layed down (through deliberate practice), which often involves repetition. It sounds like the exact same thing you were talking about.
I am a speech language pathologist and I work with preschoolers with language delays. Even though I was already aware of the benefit of reading books, I love this idea of repetitive input as a language learning tool. I have often been frustrated when some of these kids want to read the SAME few books over and over. Now, I see it as a real opportunity for them to learn (even for a first language). I look forward to seeing how this benefits my kids.
Please let me know. I have often felt that my language learning strategy would work for struggling readers in their own language - freedom to choose what to read, lots of repetition, always audio with text, sentence mode like we have at LingQ for difficult texts, access to online dictionaries and text to speech for new words, all of these should help struggling readers.
Thanks for share with us that tips 😁
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and finally that's the way people of my generation were taught, repeting the ABC... and the numbers, etc... repetition is a used in marketing to position most products...
I'm trying to learn french and I started to listen to madam a paname's podcast, what I do is listen to a episode on a day and on the next day listen to last (old) episode and then move on to the next. Repeating it again on the next day listen to the last episode and then the latest episode.
So the repetition helps
Excellent advice.
l am Turkish and my Quran reading has accelerated by reading same 5 Arabic pages each Ramadhan day varying from one year to the other, this was a method of dividing the book into 5 page pieces, each taken by a different work colleague, if none of us can complete reading the whole holy book during that month. In that case, repetitive reading made an improvement effect, as all the Arabic words in these pages were looking very similar to the rest of the book and my eyes got used to them.
学びたい言語の知識がゼロの状態で、リスニングの理解度が0%でも聴き続ければ理解できるようになりますか？少し基本の単語を学習するべきでしょうか？comprehensible input に出会ってフランス語と英語を学び始めました。素敵な動画をいつもありがとうございます。
Just like flight attendants recite directions in different languages. Eventually they will sound like natural speakers. BUT they must have the correct LISTENING first to pick up the nuances of pronunciation and intonation. Listen first to the correct language model. Over and Over.
The repetitive listening is the key idea of Zamyatkin's method. It's really very effective. I highly recommend his book "Language Tai-chi, or You Cannot Be Taught a Foreign Language". 💯👍😉
Limited content unlimited times…..wonderful lesson .
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EXCELLENTE VIDEO!
A very warm welcome to check your Level and improve your English listening and understanding skills
I wish more apps would incorporate a repeat function for audio and video
For real, amazing how many audio apps don't have good functionality for this
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Repetition is how we get our memory to store information .This is what is called mental memory .The key skill for any form of learning is repetition ,repetition and repetition to feed our mental memory .
Mr. Bob the canadian and you agree about repetition, i like the way he taught us english. Check his channel sir, he is great. I'm his subscriber. He said Reptition is so important, you both are great.😊
Oi, Steve! você é uma inspiração pra mim e pra muitos que gostam do seu canal. 🇧🇷
mama
great video!
Yep...repetition is key....I thought singing was a silly thing to do to improve my speaking and since I'm singing, I've seen changes on my fluency in frech...it is still so so so bad haha but I'm working on it :)
MANY THANKS
Nice to meet you🤝
Oh muy bien usted