You CAN'T CURVE BULLETS! What the Mythbusters MISSED | The SCIENCE...of Wanted (2008)

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  • THE SCIENCE is back on Shoddycast! I’m doing something I’ve wanted to do for ages, which is SCIENCE on movies and TV shows. Like I’ve REALLY wanted to do it. And so I just stopped, like, not doing it and decided to do it. My first one is on the SUPER DUPER RELEVANT 2008 James McCavoy film Wanted about curving bullets. I know, the Mythbusters already did it, but they didn’t PROVE it with math. SO I DECIDED TO DO IT. YOU’RE WELCOME, AMERICA.
    (Also before you ask yes I’m still doing videos on Game Theorists.)
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  • @ShoddyCast
    @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +1673

    Doh, my editor got Jolie's head number wrong at 9:26. TANYA, WHAT ARE YOU DOING. JK, I proofed this video like ten times and missed it myself. The math is right, I did it off of 0.1497, not .2397. If you saw the spreadsheet I give to my editor as a "guide" you'd be more forgiving of her error. Anyway, NICE CATCH, EAGLE-EYED BUTTHOLES.

    • @CRYOKnox
      @CRYOKnox Před 5 lety +30

      At the topic of editing... Every footage of irl Austin is disappointing... Why? He doesn't move like his 2D Avatar in the videos. 😋❤ None the less great work.👍💗

    • @brandonbray6380
      @brandonbray6380 Před 5 lety +32

      Might be interesting to look into gyrojet bullets. You joked about tiny rockets on the bullet? It's been done my guy

    • @drasiritzbir
      @drasiritzbir Před 5 lety +1

      Damn, too slow :-D

    • @jordangreene1297
      @jordangreene1297 Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Austin you should really look up one of drpas project project exact O i won't Spoil it

    • @unknownuser3926
      @unknownuser3926 Před 5 lety +13

      You mentioned rocket bullets at the very end as a joke, but "rocket" bullets actually exist. Gyrojet rounds propel themselves like actual rockets, by using fuel. Could a Gyrojet round be designed to curve?

  • @Jcknight7996
    @Jcknight7996 Před 3 lety +263

    RIP Grant Imahara. Dude was amazing. He was a genius when it came to robots. Mythbusters lost one of the best people.

    • @ryla22
      @ryla22 Před 11 měsíci

      Why are you talking like he died?
      RIP Mythbusters, they're the ones who died

    • @Jcknight7996
      @Jcknight7996 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ryla22 what are you talking about Grant was the one who died

    • @ryla22
      @ryla22 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Jcknight7996 damn.
      I could've sworn I saw a new video from him just the other day.
      RIP

  • @histeve09
    @histeve09 Před 5 lety +628

    "I PROVED IT WITH MATH"
    -how fights end at engineering schools

    • @saucysalt1930
      @saucysalt1930 Před 5 lety +3

      didnt work at mine

    • @saucysalt1930
      @saucysalt1930 Před 5 lety +5

      @nut meg it was a 2 month arguement

    • @chicoti3
      @chicoti3 Před 5 lety +21

      Math school*, In Egineering school we usually just build robots to settle the argument for us.

    • @mr.techaky7655
      @mr.techaky7655 Před 5 lety +10

      @@chicoti3 Beat the shit out of them with mechanical devices.... 10/10 would fight an engineer.

    • @sorrowsinme
      @sorrowsinme Před 4 lety +3

      Yes... Until someone throws a chair, then all hell gets loose...

  • @raffia16thblaze10
    @raffia16thblaze10 Před 5 lety +707

    Austin: bending bullets is freaking impossible!
    Black hole: Hold my beer

  • @austinm5630
    @austinm5630 Před 4 lety +49

    "You'd need to strap tiny rockets onto it!"
    I'm just gonna say one thing here: Gyrojet *mic drop*

    • @dhararry7929
      @dhararry7929 Před 4 lety

      He didn't say that they don't exist, he just said that they would be needed to get the bullet to go in a circle.

    • @liamhogan4369
      @liamhogan4369 Před 3 lety +1

      It doesn't just need to be rocket-propelled, it needs a full on set of maneuvering thrusters, stabilizers, and an onboard computer for the sheer number of calculations needed to keep this thing in flight ... I'm honestly not sure if your job would be harder or easier with the spin present or not.
      I'm also confused as to where the heck the fuel would go. This is far from a single, simple rocket, and I honestly don't see where the tanks could fit. I guess you could spring for a vectored thrust system, but that just couldn't steer an object like the bullets displayed.
      I think a steering system similar to the ablative asymmetrical design of Russian Hypersonic rockets might be a better bet, especially given the sheer velocity of a bullet ... but we're still talking about miniaturizing a freaking cruise missile. And somehow reinforcing it with bull**** material so it's strong enough to stay in one piece performing maneuvers that would warp the strongest of metals.

    • @mmmSS82
      @mmmSS82 Před 3 lety

      I'm curios what happening if you eliminate gyroscopic efect?

    • @liamhogan4369
      @liamhogan4369 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mmmSS82 You mean the spin? You get a highly inaccurate musket ball. If you’re talking a tank gun, mortar, or light artillery piece, you can get away with it, which is why such weapons can be smooth ore.

    • @TheCompleteMental
      @TheCompleteMental Před 2 lety +1

      Smart pistol. The pilot's on-board computer calculates trajectory by using already present data on the surrounding enviornment that is then uploaded to each bullet immediately as it's fired. Only a very simple computer is needed at that point to adjust the nuzzles of the bullet and correct it's trajectory.

  • @JASTERCMIX
    @JASTERCMIX Před 5 lety +1765

    Oof, movies? This opens up a whole new category of SCIENCE

    • @hamdy-man2237
      @hamdy-man2237 Před 5 lety +17

      Yeah! He's gonna be the next Game/Film Theorist exept not meant for kids.

    • @Deathbrecht
      @Deathbrecht Před 5 lety +4

      Hell yeah!

    • @falsedragon7104
      @falsedragon7104 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah, like the science of the infinity snap ;)

    • @etooamill9528
      @etooamill9528 Před 5 lety +4

      You mean the same thing that "because science" already do?

    • @GeneratedPerson
      @GeneratedPerson Před 5 lety +2

      tbh it was also a video game (also called wanted) with the exact same bullet curving

  • @X4Alpha4X
    @X4Alpha4X Před 5 lety +515

    actually getting a firearms guy to let you know how stuff works??? already better than 97% of anyone who has ever talked about firearms in media.

    • @illogicalbear6200
      @illogicalbear6200 Před 5 lety +33

      As a firearms guy, I also appreciate this.

    • @PhrontDoor
      @PhrontDoor Před 5 lety +6

      Wouldn't matter.. it's still simple path physics.

    • @TheRazePlayz
      @TheRazePlayz Před 5 lety +30

      @@PhrontDoor it's still nice that he put the effort into understanding the specifics ie using 45 ACP because that round is used in handguns whereas he could have blabbed on using 303 or .22 if he really wanted, the physics would still be valid but it wouldn't be as accurate a comparison and gun nuts are nuts for details.

    • @Gpeterson3d
      @Gpeterson3d Před 5 lety +13

      @@PhrontDoor actually mattering on the gun Type, manufacturer, and bullet type you can get slightly different results every time because different bullets can gain more range then others if in specific guns

    • @Grynslvr2
      @Grynslvr2 Před 5 lety +3

      @@PhrontDoor Could you enlighten us poor ignorant wretches, and explain in small words exactly what "path physics" actually is? I did a quick search and didn't find anything on it.

  • @chickencurry420
    @chickencurry420 Před 5 lety +99

    From watching this video, all I got was that it's still impossible to curve a bullet (which I already knew) and I saw a bunch of numbers
    10/10

  • @Cosmicmembersolutions
    @Cosmicmembersolutions Před 4 lety +133

    "You never use most of the math you learn"
    This guy
    "Challenge accepted!"

    • @alexanderwamsley5846
      @alexanderwamsley5846 Před 4 lety +5

      let's change that statement to "most people end up never using most of the math they learn

    • @dhararry7929
      @dhararry7929 Před 4 lety

      Math is needed for science. Science is needed for technology. Technology is needed for most stuff people do. Conclusion: the quote above is incorrect.

    • @betaplain297
      @betaplain297 Před 3 lety

      You never use most of the useless, confusing and annoying ways to do an easy thing in math you learn

  • @PatricHerrera
    @PatricHerrera Před 5 lety +258

    "Angelina Jolie's head is approximately .1397m wide"
    Me through bites of sandwich: heh, sick burn.

    • @purrito3892
      @purrito3892 Před 5 lety +13

      Patric Herrera bruv, he said *.*1397 m you dehydrated cabbage

    • @PatricHerrera
      @PatricHerrera Před 5 lety +9

      @@purrito3892 the decimal was one place too far to the left but it was there you blind carrot.

    • @Sekaro297
      @Sekaro297 Před 5 lety +1

      @@eurobabis hahaha indeed

    • @thelonecabbage7834
      @thelonecabbage7834 Před 4 lety

      @@purrito3892 I'm offended by this comment.

    • @purrito3892
      @purrito3892 Před 4 lety

      TheLoneCabbage but you aren’t dehydrated

  • @gort0338
    @gort0338 Před 5 lety +819

    Oh my, SCIENCE back on shoddycast? I never thought I'd live to see the day.

    • @petrino
      @petrino Před 5 lety +19

      well, its really ALL science now... everybody else left and sold it to Austin.

    • @bingobongo8657
      @bingobongo8657 Před 5 lety +1

      where was it before?

    • @mattdriver6875
      @mattdriver6875 Před 5 lety +2

      @@bingobongo8657 it got moved to game theory for quite awhile

    • @bingobongo8657
      @bingobongo8657 Před 5 lety +4

      @Noblesse Obligee ah ya I forgot about the move. It seems like after he bought shoddy cast. There were no videos. Until now like tf lol.

    • @murilotheodoro5025
      @murilotheodoro5025 Před 5 lety +4

      @Noblesse Obligee he's basically doing minecraft and other "popular" games

  • @infernex0373
    @infernex0373 Před 5 lety +134

    'You will never *EVER* be able to curve a bullets'
    *Some point in the future with a random person* Hold my beer

    • @9308323
      @9308323 Před 4 lety +1

      How about no?

    • @jacobclark9117
      @jacobclark9117 Před 4 lety +2

      Gyrojet. Its already possible. That "strap rockets to it) idea. Yeah......abou that

  • @eschelar
    @eschelar Před 5 lety +33

    This is pretty awesome. I always feel cheated by Mythbusters because they only go part of the way.
    I would add just one thing. What if the bullet was textured and or the bullet wasn't made of lead?
    Taofledermaus does videos showing shotgun slugs, many of which are made of other materials like steel or even tungsten.
    A harder material could handle more spin... But also, more spin could also slow the bullet somewhat, increasing the curve.. Further, a textured surface could potentially enhance the spin drift, ie golf ball dimples.
    Given that the show uses custom weaponry, custom rifling and custom ammo isn't entirely out of the question.
    I agree that the premise of that movie was rather ridiculous, but it was also kind of fun. Probably more because of miss jolie... But fun nonetheless.

    • @jessefalling4956
      @jessefalling4956 Před rokem +1

      I love explanations like for the weird arbitrary rules that writers come up with. See writers, this is the easy way to write off something impossible like that!

    • @bobbyboswell13
      @bobbyboswell13 Před rokem +1

      exactly also what if the gunpowder inside it was a different formula or something? im curious what kind of modifications it would take to the bullet to get it to curve

  • @superfish0012
    @superfish0012 Před 5 lety +164

    "It'd have to be a rocket! It's impossible!" May I introduce you to... the Gyrojet?

  • @bradleygeiman2942
    @bradleygeiman2942 Před 5 lety +641

    I can curve a bullet, by shooting the gun.
    Gravity affects the bullet making it curve downward over time

    • @gabbonoo
      @gabbonoo Před 5 lety +45

      Also... atmospheric changes(wind/air density), magnets, spacial distortion, energy... pretty much anything can make a bullet have a curving path with the right application

    • @skyrimax
      @skyrimax Před 5 lety +17

      And the coriolis effect which give the impression of curving because of the variable tangential speeds of the Earth at different latitutes

    • @meangreenmach0774
      @meangreenmach0774 Před 5 lety +17

      The two guys above me ruined it

    • @skyrimax
      @skyrimax Před 5 lety +13

      @@meangreenmach0774 you're welcome! Ruining a video about ruining a movie

    • @camsterdam3896
      @camsterdam3896 Před 5 lety +4

      According to flearthers, gravity isn't real... So yeah... 😁

  • @Cillranchello
    @Cillranchello Před 4 lety +10

    When I saw THE SCIENCE back on Shoddycast, I was hoping Austin would go back to swearing.
    DAMN YOU CZcams ALGORITHMS LET THERE BE FUCKS!

  • @iaminhere6022
    @iaminhere6022 Před 4 lety +18

    I dont whant science... i want The Storyteller.

  • @5-Volt
    @5-Volt Před 5 lety +236

    "This is complete and utter bu.... nonsense!"
    Damn. It seems like Matpat's PG channel has influenced Austin's sharp tongue.

    • @codysimon3548
      @codysimon3548 Před 5 lety

      Tongue

    • @EXOgreenMC
      @EXOgreenMC Před 5 lety +21

      More like CZcams AI bullshit demonizing everything has.

    • @komradeheavy3522
      @komradeheavy3522 Před 5 lety +4

      I'd go with both have influenced the man's wording

    • @justinpulford5081
      @justinpulford5081 Před 4 lety

      No it hasnt. If you watched the video of MatPat vs Austin on who's the better starter Pokemon, MatPat clearly states he'll stop giving Austin shit about his cussing but then proceeds to say that CZcamss algorithm wont.

    • @justinpulford5081
      @justinpulford5081 Před 4 lety

      Which Austin CLEARLY won that arguement.

  • @iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis
    @iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis Před 5 lety +339

    "lets tack on an extra centimeter" *adds .1 meters*
    uhhhhh

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump Před 5 lety +39

      only a factor of ten off, that's *real* science!

    • @numbs2
      @numbs2 Před 5 lety +28

      Can you put that in freedom units.

    • @topcatti360
      @topcatti360 Před 5 lety +59

      @@numbs2 0.05/9001 of a football field

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump Před 5 lety +5

      @@numbs2 no, only scientific.

    • @OmniscientWarrior
      @OmniscientWarrior Před 5 lety

      Maybe he meant a decimeter.

  • @gamma9924
    @gamma9924 Před 4 lety +8

    Smart pistol from Titanfall 2: I'm abouta end this man's whole carrer

  • @Scorplefox
    @Scorplefox Před rokem +12

    I'm rewatching a lot of these videos in preparation for the full return of this channel, I'm so hyped to see what Austin has in store for the future of this channel!

  • @twinkiesmaster69
    @twinkiesmaster69 Před 5 lety +406

    *Anime would like to know your location...*

    • @twinkiesmaster69
      @twinkiesmaster69 Před 5 lety +35

      Science Daddy noticed me

    • @joebobjon1127
      @joebobjon1127 Před 5 lety +30

      *Hol Horse would like to know your location*

    • @nikigoturspine7478
      @nikigoturspine7478 Před 5 lety +6

      @@joebobjon1127 Polnareif would like to know your location.

    • @gavart4509
      @gavart4509 Před 5 lety +10

      Hold up, this comment was fine and *fucking* dandy until I heard “science daddy”

    • @natehall3131
      @natehall3131 Před 5 lety +3

      u=w=o consume thyself science father

  • @dashy9482
    @dashy9482 Před 5 lety +341

    Austin. We need a shirt that says "I proved it with math!"

    • @micahphilson
      @micahphilson Před 5 lety +15

      This shirt should be handed out after college math finals. Or at least to math majors.

    • @riseofevillink
      @riseofevillink Před 5 lety

      Along with a shirt that has the jar of logic pardox Austins

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 Před 5 lety +1

      Well, except he failed to prove it. His simple math, assumed a perfectly uniform object spinning around a fixed axis and included no BC variable. Long range shooters, myself included, have missed long range shots in 0 value wind and hit downrange, behind the target. Some have reported looped 'swirl'(the visual atmospheric disturbance of the bullet) on extreme long range shots. The problem is that bullets are not perfectly uniform and they yaw on their longitudinal axis. This combination of a wobbling axis and non-uniform mass, causes it to behave in a more complex way, than his simple math accounts.

    • @DamonDraven
      @DamonDraven Před 5 lety

      @@springbloom5940 Excuse my ignorance, but then, wouldn't the projectile just curve downwards due to gravity? I mean, shouldn't spinning and being symmetrical stabilize it enough not to move sideways?

    • @RedTriangle53
      @RedTriangle53 Před 5 lety

      @@DamonDraven no. A bullet's center of mass is behind its geometrical center, so if anything gravity is pulling its ass downwards, not its tip. Since it moves at supersonic speeds it is safe to assume that its dynamics, aside from the overall ballistic-ish curve, are dictated almost solely by aerodynamics. You're right that its symmetry and rotation means that more is required to change the direction it is pointing, leading to higher overall stability. But a bullet will always tumble a bit, because when it loses forward velocity(especially when it goes subsonic), the axis of rotation will change since there is less aerodynamic pressure correcting it, leading to oscillation. At that point it can start drifting pretty significantly over longer distances. I recommend checking out some videos by a youtuber called taofledermouse, who does experiments with various projectiles shot out from a shotgun, filmed in slow motion. You can really see this wobbling effect and how it affects the trajectory of the projectiles, even over short distances since the speed is subsonic.

  • @evanrussell2172
    @evanrussell2172 Před 3 lety +11

    Rest in peace Grant... Rest in peace...

  • @ddrs15
    @ddrs15 Před 5 lety +68

    Rocket-propelled bullets are an actual thing though....
    So it is possible

    • @SuperMKi1
      @SuperMKi1 Před 5 lety +5

      Except that they don't fire reliably and you can't really estimate the curve and they just accelerate the bullet forward b/c of spin and whatnot

    • @ddrs15
      @ddrs15 Před 5 lety

      True...

    • @f13ryfox71
      @f13ryfox71 Před 5 lety +4

      But was any actual science put into those old timey bullets, I think they were all poorly made with only the intention of selling... I'm saying what if we made them again... but differently

    • @ddrs15
      @ddrs15 Před 5 lety +1

      I think we could make it work but it would be way easier to just take on step to the side for a straight line of sight

    • @superbooper3654
      @superbooper3654 Před 4 lety +2

      But their not bullets their basically small rockets with no splode

  • @jeffreybarker357
    @jeffreybarker357 Před 5 lety +82

    The SCIENCE! of the gauss rifle from Fallout!
    Artilleryman here. Thank you for briefly discussing humidity and the earth’s rotation. Over long distances we have to account for those!

    • @justinpulford5081
      @justinpulford5081 Před 4 lety +2

      That science already exists using electromagnets.

    • @dhararry7929
      @dhararry7929 Před 4 lety +3

      Railguns and coilguns (one of those is a gauss weapon) already exist. The US Navy has a RG, and particle accelerators use the same mechanics as CGs.

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 Před 3 lety

      Railguns were made obsolete during Tesla's lifetime. That's all I can say. Do enough research and you'll find out what I'm talking about.

  • @gabrielhelms2040
    @gabrielhelms2040 Před 5 lety +6

    I really miss the Storyteller :(

  • @kirkisthabombliketic
    @kirkisthabombliketic Před 4 lety +14

    ShoddyCast please endow us with an Elder Scrolls Lore: Season 3!!!!! Those were legendary to the history of Elder Scrolls.

    • @turg9958
      @turg9958 Před 4 lety +4

      kirkisthabombliketic the guy who did the lore videos left

  • @micahphilson
    @micahphilson Před 5 lety +208

    Do you think he'll feel comfortable swearing again on this channel? The Science! just feels so odd when things aren't always *GODDAMN TERRIFYING!*

    • @dirpyturtle69
      @dirpyturtle69 Před 5 lety +4

      Micah Philson no it makes videos demonetized and makes them not show up in recommended

    • @micahphilson
      @micahphilson Před 5 lety +3

      Well, it's not nearly as bad if he waits until after the first minute to swear. Though you're right, MatPat is one of the bigger experts on youtube analytics, Austin would probably follow his advice and just cut it out as a whole.

    • @whodis1626
      @whodis1626 Před 5 lety +4

      @Adventure Inc why'd it have to be about Jews
      good old greed explains it

    • @potatoking2161
      @potatoking2161 Před 5 lety +3

      Just gonna follow this thread because I’m curious about how CZcams is Jewish

    • @aliasofanalias7448
      @aliasofanalias7448 Před 5 lety

      This is actually quite funny because youtube is owned by Google which is owned by Alphabet inc. The ceo's are Sergey Brin and Larry Page. who are in fact Jewish. Do your research lads.

  • @silviaconvertible
    @silviaconvertible Před 5 lety +98

    SCIENCE! On shoddy again?! It must be christmas! But there wasn’t enough NO GOD DAMN SENSing!

  • @DrGold-ks1mp
    @DrGold-ks1mp Před 4 lety +5

    If you added some sort of microscopic thruster to the side of each bullet that triggers with ease in and eases out to make it look cooler, you could make it look like it was curving.

  • @limitedlich2352
    @limitedlich2352 Před 4 lety +19

    Dear Austin, I know that you have moved away from the fallout franchise, but I have been curious about how the Gamma Gun works for quite some time. If there even is an explanation, I figured you could figure it out.

  • @cirava
    @cirava Před 5 lety +151

    Watching any of these videos is like watching a man slowly dive into insanity, because he is.

    • @default5396
      @default5396 Před 4 lety +1

      ShoddyCast is Alex Jones?!?!

    • @zackfair4187
      @zackfair4187 Před rokem

      True and sometimes I am worrying about him

  • @tinderbox4690
    @tinderbox4690 Před 5 lety +193

    I'll never get tired of SCIENCE!

    • @neobro234
      @neobro234 Před 5 lety +4

      *S* *C* *I* *E* *N* *C* *E*

    • @AlphaladZXA
      @AlphaladZXA Před 5 lety +1

      I thought the same until school made me hate it :(

    • @darthXreven
      @darthXreven Před 5 lety +2

      she blinded me.....WITH SCIENCE!

  • @SLDimarco
    @SLDimarco Před 5 lety +3

    Game Theory wants its format back...

  • @tag8862
    @tag8862 Před 5 lety +9

    Austin: You can't curve bullets
    Hol Horse: Hold my beer

    • @arcanum1018
      @arcanum1018 Před 5 lety

      muda muda muda muda muda MUDAAAAAAA

    • @MrMagbrant
      @MrMagbrant Před 4 lety

      Exactly what I was thinking xD
      #JoJoisdabest

    • @knownas2017
      @knownas2017 Před 4 lety

      Everyone talks about Hol Horse, but never
      Guido Mista, who literally curves bullets.
      Feelsbadman

  • @Deadonstick
    @Deadonstick Před 5 lety +95

    The ultimate tensile strength of chromium vanadium steel or osmium/iridium is in the gigapascal range. These compounds should hold up under the stresses of spin drift. So yeah, impossible with lead, but not with a bullet.

    • @acynder1
      @acynder1 Před 5 lety +30

      Now build a handgun that puts more efort on spining the bullet that making the bullet go foward.

    • @toascranill5464
      @toascranill5464 Před 5 lety +17

      What about just bringing rocket bullets back?

    • @delilahdickenson1040
      @delilahdickenson1040 Před 5 lety +10

      toa scranill gyro jet gang

    • @theseceratary2307
      @theseceratary2307 Před 5 lety +6

      You would also need a firearm made out of a similar material, since a metal like that wouldn't deform enough from the rifling to force said spin forces upon it. And as acynder1 said, the rifling would have to be incredible for the bullet to spin fast enough to cause said drift. Something like an incremental rifling that gets more and more extreme as the bullet travels through the barrel, but the metal might shear the grooves from the rifling off and plug the barrel. I'd say that this task is impossible for a short-barreled firearm, but not for a gun like a rifle that gives the bullet enough time to generate that spin.

    • @MagnumForce51
      @MagnumForce51 Před 5 lety +3

      Another thing to keep in mind is those materials have pretty different density compared to lead. So the math would change too. The RPM needed may actually be smaller as a result since you'd have to change the momentum of less mass.
      The trade off though is the impact force of said bullet would be less so you'd have to fire it faster to compensate. For the bullets to remain lethal they'd have to go faster which means they'd have to rotate faster in the air to get enough curve action to move them far enough since they are covering much greater distance a faster rate of time.
      But how much faster does the bullets have to go and how much does the change in the materials density impact the needed rotation speed for the higher speeds and how much faster does the bullets have to in the first case with the other materials in question. Maybe it's not a big enough change to make it impossible. Maybe could revisit this with using bullets made from a different materiel. :P

  • @kyebrits2743
    @kyebrits2743 Před 5 lety +61

    Just wrote my physics exam. I love knowing what formulas you used, for the first time. 😂

  • @Dkfbrkfbgng
    @Dkfbrkfbgng Před 5 lety +54

    DARPA made a self guided bullet and yes it can curve

    • @clonechoopa31
      @clonechoopa31 Před 5 lety +15

      oh god no, sniping has whole new *C U R V A T U R E* to it now.

    • @ronaldbloodworth5636
      @ronaldbloodworth5636 Před 5 lety +22

      but
      Can it run Crysis?

    • @mr.techaky7655
      @mr.techaky7655 Před 5 lety +9

      Right, but it uses gyroscopes to change the fight path over several hundred if not thousand yards....

    • @themadpyro8560
      @themadpyro8560 Před 4 lety +1

      That’s not really a bullet, that’s a rocket

    • @mr.techaky7655
      @mr.techaky7655 Před 4 lety +4

      @@themadpyro8560 futuretechreport.com/self-guided-smart-bullets-future-sniper-rifles/
      Actually not...

  • @MrJesuszombie
    @MrJesuszombie Před 4 lety +1

    Dear austin,
    Hey! Its me! Jesus (sorry about being a zombie)
    Just wanna thank you for the smiles and science.
    Been battling my depression that's been fighting with vigor ever since my pops died in january and then i lost my job cuz of my depression and there went my apartment.. and ended up with my xbx1 stolen in the process.. So no escape for me.. Lol 😭 blah blah blah aaaanyways just told for insight..
    You have been keeping my head high lately and have given me some escape.
    Just wanted to say a big thank you to you and the theorists that have kept my mind busy and away from topics i dont wanna think about. It's been a great help
    Have a good day.

  • @chanceeffect5589
    @chanceeffect5589 Před 5 lety +115

    Eh, this is how it always happens with Practical Physics vs Theoretical Physics vs Movie Physics.

    • @droher1344
      @droher1344 Před 5 lety

      But that's pretty much the scenario he showed with the string attached to the bullet, only with gravity...

  • @rusted2084
    @rusted2084 Před 5 lety +53

    So...the guy from the meme:" Parry this you filthy casul" work as austin editor ? k

    • @zix47
      @zix47 Před 5 lety +1

      did he say husband?

    • @rusted2084
      @rusted2084 Před 5 lety +1

      @@zix47 i thought my ear was messing with me again but it didn't not this time

    • @paultubbs3510
      @paultubbs3510 Před 5 lety +1

      Now I wanna see this meme

  • @themattster
    @themattster Před 3 lety +1

    Austin: "Let's tack on an extra centimeter..."
    Tanya: "Nah m8 I think you mean 10 centimeters"

  • @epiclord7039
    @epiclord7039 Před 4 lety +13

    Video: Assumed constant acceleration.
    Me: leaves immediately.

  • @ParanoidCarrot
    @ParanoidCarrot Před 5 lety +58

    so you need to use gyrorocket weapons for this

    • @evanbarrows2413
      @evanbarrows2413 Před 5 lety

      Airsoft hop up my friend

    • @ParanoidCarrot
      @ParanoidCarrot Před 5 lety +4

      @@evanbarrows2413 well it allready " has" it its called rifling hop up gives a spin to the ball, but gyro rocket guns ammo gives acceleration after it leaves the barrel and spin

    • @johnfisher4171
      @johnfisher4171 Před 5 lety

      @@ParanoidCarrot well sorta, the projectile is filled with propellent so it's constantly having burn off

    • @evanbarrows2413
      @evanbarrows2413 Před 5 lety

      @@ParanoidCarrot obviously it would have to be a spherical projectile but it needs to spin its other axis to perform a curve like that

    • @ParanoidCarrot
      @ParanoidCarrot Před 5 lety

      @@evanbarrows2413 not really the axis spin gives it " thurst " as it where but with a gyrorocket projectile giving it self propulsion aE accelartion and also why they are so inaccurate to begin with skipping the manufacturing portion of this compleatly

  • @uria3679
    @uria3679 Před 5 lety +39

    Now do a video on how crazy of a human John Wick is

    • @turnedmeme6183
      @turnedmeme6183 Před 5 lety +18

      You mean "do a video on how breathtaking of a human Keanu Reeves is."

    • @Andre-uu5xv
      @Andre-uu5xv Před 5 lety +2

      YES

    • @LinksYTLink
      @LinksYTLink Před 5 lety +8

      @@turnedmeme6183
      Crazy is not a word to describe Keanu Reeves.
      Great? maybe
      Wholesome? Yes.
      Breathtaking? Definitely
      Crazy? No
      Bad? Definitely not
      Hotel? Trivago

    • @turnedmeme6183
      @turnedmeme6183 Před 5 lety +3

      @@LinksYTLink thx now I got a better comment lol.

    • @albingrahn5576
      @albingrahn5576 Před 5 lety +1

      @@LinksYTLink Except he's not talking about Keanu Reeves, he's talking about the fictional character John Wick who so happens to be played by Keanu Reeves. John Wick, the character,
      definitely is crazy. Both in the sense that he can do crazy things and that he probably has some form of mental illness or is a psychopath due to the way he is completely unfazed about killing people.

  • @tohotf2365
    @tohotf2365 Před 5 lety +2

    "My name is Hol Horse and this is my stand the emperor."

  • @Rick586
    @Rick586 Před 4 lety +3

    Watching this brought one thing to mind:
    "Swing your arms from side to side..."

  • @gabeschugardt5710
    @gabeschugardt5710 Před 5 lety +15

    I think you missed the obvious explanation. Xavier asked Magneto for help.

  • @ClydeC
    @ClydeC Před 5 lety +85

    *Make ShoddyCast Great Again*

    • @Blankace.
      @Blankace. Před 5 lety +3

      They literally gave the channel to somebody who backstabbed them the first chance he got

    • @jeffreysian-salas1689
      @jeffreysian-salas1689 Před 5 lety

      @@Blankace. wait, what happened?

    • @Blankace.
      @Blankace. Před 5 lety +4

      @@jeffreysian-salas1689 Shoddycast took in Austin was an editor and wanted to make the video's he does now as little video's inbetween lore video's. not many people liked it and Shoddycast got some hate even though they were just trying to make him happy.
      Because Austin's video's were more theory like GameTheory offed Austin to make video's for them instead.
      Once Austin and GameTheory parted ways he crawled back to Shoddycast.

    • @SgtSnazzerino
      @SgtSnazzerino Před 4 lety +1

      I unsubscribed a while back due to the lack of uploads after they handed this sinking ship to Austin. Honestly I feel like he should just make his own channel and leave Shoddycast alone, he barely uploads here anyway.

  • @Painted_Owl
    @Painted_Owl Před 4 lety +1

    That out-of-nowhere Tim Alan laugh caught me So Off guard XD

  • @mr.golf_ball_head120
    @mr.golf_ball_head120 Před 4 lety

    I remember watching your vids over 4 years ago before I forgot about your channel. You can't imagine how excited I was when I rediscovered you!!!

  • @enclave0fficer858
    @enclave0fficer858 Před 5 lety +55

    The bullet would need something like small rockets...
    ...like... gyrojet ammo? 🌝

    • @syriuszb8611
      @syriuszb8611 Před 5 lety +1

      There is no indication of this in the movie, the bullet in slowmo looks like normal bullet.

    • @13ladepigeon
      @13ladepigeon Před 5 lety +1

      @@syriuszb8611 i think its less about what the movie is and more about if its possible in real life and that not all options were explored to make it work

  • @MoonPatch
    @MoonPatch Před 5 lety +71

    You get a like JUST for moving back to this channel
    Now to watch the video

  • @peanutbutter7682
    @peanutbutter7682 Před 2 lety +3

    this got in my recommended again after the new video, i know i already watched it but nostalgia is a great feeling :)

  • @key_bounce
    @key_bounce Před rokem +1

    now this is what I remember from your episodes on game theory.
    "Looove-it!"

  • @thewanderer15
    @thewanderer15 Před 5 lety +5

    People out here praising another the science while a lot of us praying for another Storyteller

  • @lionbryce10101
    @lionbryce10101 Před 5 lety +12

    Give it up for Dan

    • @rogerp.4375
      @rogerp.4375 Před 5 lety

      I liked this video, but only for Dan. Thanks, Dan!

  • @theblackbaron4119
    @theblackbaron4119 Před 5 lety +2

    Tldr: nothing really that the myth busters actually forgot.

  • @codebacker24
    @codebacker24 Před 4 lety +4

    I really miss this being a lore channel. Especially for Fallout.

  • @micahphilson
    @micahphilson Před 5 lety +41

    What if you had a magnetic bullet and just surrounded the entire flight path to the target in magnets stronger than the ones used for particle accelerators?
    It's super inefficient, hauling all that equipment around, and I think the person will move before you set it up, but hey, at least it's theoretically possible!

    • @KnightOfGwyn
      @KnightOfGwyn Před 5 lety +4

      Micah Philson lmao “hold on, please just stay there, I’m trying to kill all of you”

    • @Gpeterson3d
      @Gpeterson3d Před 5 lety +1

      The magnets with the bullet don't curve the way it flies but it does work with BB www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=curve-bullets

    • @micahphilson
      @micahphilson Před 5 lety

      Teddy, not if you did your math right. It's entirely possible to do, you just need either a very long track (to give it more time to affect the trajectory) or some of the strongest magnets made (to affect it more strongly over the distance). Either way, you're probably going to have to do a few trials while your target is standing there.

    • @GodsGladiator
      @GodsGladiator Před 5 lety

      There is a video somewhere on this already..... they used copper, steel and magnetic projectiles. Even using just a air operated projectile accelerator they couldn’t get them to curve.

    • @ericwhite3526
      @ericwhite3526 Před 5 lety

      Thats how the cathode ray tube works it bends the eletron beam

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Před 5 lety +2

    Airsoft weapons using a hop-up system curves "bullets" (or rather plastic BB's) all the time. :)
    In normal operation it's used to give the BB backspin while being fired out the barrel, which generates lift as the BB interacts with the air around it. The idea is to adjust the hop-up at a sweet spot where the generated lift offsets the weight of the BB so instead of immediately moving in a downward curve as it exits the barrel om account of gravity, the BB actually "flies" a certain distance, making the BB shoot further and straighter than it would have without the hop-up.
    If you then hold an airsoft weapon with hop-up sideways, and crank up the hop-up to give it a desired sideways spin, the BB will curve.
    Theoretically, you could achieve the same effect with firearms, provided that you use really old muskets or flintlocks using round balls as ammunition, and you install a heavy duty hop-up system that doesn't cause the ball to jam inside of the barrel.

  • @alexhood3966
    @alexhood3966 Před 4 lety +6

    "Bore of the gun is almost always has a twisted groove" Austin you mean rifling.

  • @Jkilla1371
    @Jkilla1371 Před 5 lety

    I'm so glad these vids are back.

  • @LarryTownsend
    @LarryTownsend Před 5 lety +12

    The spin is what stuck in my mind ever since I saw that mythbusters episode, thank you for answering it!!!

  • @gromhl5901
    @gromhl5901 Před 5 lety +19

    I don't care what content you release, I just love the way you present it always so entertaining to learn from you.

  • @jayrkos
    @jayrkos Před 4 lety +2

    this belongs on film theory

  • @Battousai04
    @Battousai04 Před 4 lety

    im so glad youre still doing videos

  • @LickMyRainbow77
    @LickMyRainbow77 Před 5 lety +47

    I miss the Fallout/Elder Scrolls content from from the earlier days of this channel

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 5 lety +2

      The BFG episode is still a favorite

    • @milohdd
      @milohdd Před 5 lety +1

      Strong Amazon that shit was great

    • @milohdd
      @milohdd Před 5 lety

      Strong Amazon that shit was great

    • @SgtSnazzerino
      @SgtSnazzerino Před 4 lety +1

      Sadly I feel like this channel is probably never gonna return to the good old days...

  • @helixwd739
    @helixwd739 Před 5 lety +5

    You have left out one crucial thing. If you could swing your arm fast enough, as half the bullet is leaving the end of the barrel it could be hit by the end of the barrel therefore causing it to spin and act the same as and arrow but on a much smaller area. The difference would be negligible but it would have still curved

  • @harrisliu4449
    @harrisliu4449 Před 4 lety

    I love your channel and how you explain things. The first time you appeared was in matpats's channel. And I love your humor and a good vocabulary. I hope you could keep on making these videos and keep going.

  • @ryanstreuli8667
    @ryanstreuli8667 Před 5 lety +4

    To be fair you could probably swing your arm as fast as .45 ACP travels 🙄😂

  • @kysier6015
    @kysier6015 Před 5 lety +13

    Well, if the dude has superpowers... maybe bullets do too in that universe? lol

    • @Crown-Fox
      @Crown-Fox Před 5 lety

      I mean, they have superpowers and a magical tapestry that tells you who to shoot. So like, we could just hand wave it and say that supernatural forces alter the trajectory of the bullet. I guess.

  • @samgafford2371
    @samgafford2371 Před 5 lety +34

    Every time you say spin I think of the Spin from Steel Ball Run. Mind if you cover it?

  • @Luddhabuddha
    @Luddhabuddha Před 4 lety +2

    Only way you could realistically curve a bullet would be to use a round ball and impart backspin. Then rotate the barrel depending on which way you want it to curve and fire at an angle away from your target and let the spin carry it back to the target. It works with paintball guns, just need to tweek the numbers. Might have to use something besides lead to make the bullet.

  • @ronwikk6448
    @ronwikk6448 Před 3 lety

    Why didn’t I find this when it happened! This was HILARIOUS! Thx for the laughs, and math lesson.

  • @JessidGallardo
    @JessidGallardo Před 5 lety +4

    145 grains for a 45 acp? That is an awfuly light bullet for that caliber, 45 acp usually weights around 230 grains
    Edit: also 45 acp tends to travell at 255m/s

    • @z1thcsgo426
      @z1thcsgo426 Před 5 lety

      No no it's fine he's totally using the numbers for polymer-copper bullets xD

    • @bennettgordon4656
      @bennettgordon4656 Před 5 lety

      Um assuming it's a +p loading, it's very strange though.

    • @JessidGallardo
      @JessidGallardo Před 5 lety

      @@bennettgordon4656 if it was a +p its speed would be 270m/s, 410 is too fast

  • @GG_1318
    @GG_1318 Před 5 lety +4

    The US army developed a smart bullet that can not only bend but actually CHASES the target. So it is possible with technology.

    • @dkaloger5720
      @dkaloger5720 Před 5 lety

      That isn’t a bullet it’s a missile

    • @therac197
      @therac197 Před 5 lety

      @@dkaloger5720
      Chasing is the wrong word.
      The are laser guided .50 cal. Similar technology as in tank shells

  • @marxxplaysgames
    @marxxplaysgames Před rokem

    Austin: "You can't bend bullets"
    W, Luna/Trigger: "Allow me to introduce myself"

  • @CanisMythson
    @CanisMythson Před 5 lety

    Good to see you back, Austin; I've missed your videos

  • @SteroidChicken
    @SteroidChicken Před 5 lety +18

    This the power of my invincible 《EMPORER》

    • @junorequiem7199
      @junorequiem7199 Před 5 lety +4

      Assuming I get your reference correctly
      Mista did it better, he actually killed stand users

    • @AdamSmith-qu5bv
      @AdamSmith-qu5bv Před 4 lety

      @@junorequiem7199 *Laughs in [Manhattan transfer]*

  • @r.connor9280
    @r.connor9280 Před 5 lety +8

    I was hoping that Gyro Jets would be involved

  • @Sigma1
    @Sigma1 Před 4 lety +3

    What if we didn't use lead for bullets? Maybe graphene or carbon nanotube?

    • @alex-ue1yn
      @alex-ue1yn Před 4 lety +1

      then it wouldn't spin lead is used because the grooves inside the barrel grip into the lead bullet causing it to rotate along the grooves

    • @themadpyro8560
      @themadpyro8560 Před 4 lety

      Itd be a shit bullet

    • @yruan
      @yruan Před 4 lety

      @@alex-ue1yn only if you're talking about a smooth cased projectile.....what if you had matched machined rifling grooves on both projectile and barrel. it would be like a monorail truck + rail :)

    • @alex-ue1yn
      @alex-ue1yn Před 4 lety

      @@yruan I mean you can try but still wont curve because you couldn't get enough rotations per sec.

  • @EnderMalcolm
    @EnderMalcolm Před měsícem

    Something I noticed while you went over the forces of the bullet during the spin drift section, is as follows:
    Since for every action there's an equal and opposite one, the rotational force imparted into the bullet would also be imparted into the gun. Say goodbye to your wrists, because that thing is going to torque over like a high power impact wrench set to its max clutch setting. Wooooooooooo!

  • @Neo2266.
    @Neo2266. Před 5 lety +5

    Oh I’m so glad you’re back on ShoddyCast

  • @dwemermaniac1108
    @dwemermaniac1108 Před 5 lety +37

    When are you making the lore channel, love the science but the storyteller is so relaxing and I love the immersion. Keep up the good work, and #saveShoddycast

  • @Scorch1out
    @Scorch1out Před rokem

    I've missed this Austin, thankyou!

  • @mmmSS82
    @mmmSS82 Před 3 lety

    Wow, despite all, this is the best explanation ever. Evean a person don't know math ( but take it for good) still can undestand . I apreciate this , good work.

  • @blunt7457
    @blunt7457 Před 5 lety +2

    Science is nice and all for people who like Game Theory style videos, but i feel inclined to ask when we will get another storyteller video?

    • @angellara7040
      @angellara7040 Před 5 lety +1

      He commented to someone earlier about that and was being a bitch

  • @FUTUREpilot267
    @FUTUREpilot267 Před 5 lety +4

    As an aerospace engineer I'm skeptical of your kinematic equation, but your logic is sound, good video.

    • @toascranill5464
      @toascranill5464 Před 5 lety +1

      But we could curve then if we bring back Gyrojet!

    • @ViktorHJ
      @ViktorHJ Před 5 lety

      As a non-aerospace engineer I'm skeptical of you being one, due to his logic not actually being remotely sound.

  • @asdfdfggfd
    @asdfdfggfd Před rokem

    I had forgotten that this movie even existed, but this video provided me with the closure that I did not know I needed. Thank you?

  • @salvsays
    @salvsays Před 4 lety +1

    I know shoddycast is your baby now, but putting this vid on film theory would bring you so much more income and views. Something to consider

  • @kodyw2960
    @kodyw2960 Před 5 lety +13

    So, uh, we ever gonna get videos about lore again? Maybe continue the 3 or 4 series that you guys made

    • @kodyw2960
      @kodyw2960 Před 5 lety +3

      @@shanenonwolfe4109 thats...disappointing

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +1

      @@shanenonwolfe4109 "Doesn't give a crap about the channel" is pretty inconsistent with me trying to make videos for the channel, but go off sis.

    • @kodyw2960
      @kodyw2960 Před 5 lety +4

      @@ShoddyCast dude, you're not helping your case here

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +1

      @@kodyw2960 How so? I'm making videos for the channel. That's the opposite of not caring about the channel.

    • @kodyw2960
      @kodyw2960 Před 5 lety +7

      @@ShoddyCast look, I admit I've been out of the loop for a while. And I'm not gonna sit here and potentially come off as an asshole when I don't know the whole story. But it just seems like, in the time I've taken to look at the channel and the comments, a lot of people are not happy with the direction of the channel. And if I'm honest, I'm not really either. This doesn't feel like Shoddycast anymore, and that's sad. The Fallout lore is what got me into the series, which is now one of my favorite franchises. All I'm saying is, your comments can come off as snooty and dismissive of the fans who have been here for so long

  • @airman1943
    @airman1943 Před 5 lety +15

    Nobody show him Darpa's EXACTO rounds.

    • @therac197
      @therac197 Před 5 lety

      Technicaly he is wrong
      But actually those rounds are .50 cal and not .45.
      Good luck getting these rounds into a pistol
      (Yes there are .50 cal pistols but those are not in 12.7 mm x 99mm their bullets are much shorter)

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 Před 5 lety

      @@therac197
      Long range shooters with high BC bullets have probably all, encountered a curved trajectory at one time or other. I have missed small targets at long range and hit downrage *behind* the target, with no lateral doping. The only way for that to happen is for the trajectory to have arced. His math is very simple and accounts only for a uniform mass on a stable axis, in 2 dimensions; with no variable for gravity, or angular momentum. Bullets dont behave that way, in reality; some people have reported looping swirls on very long range shots. While his simple math is sufficient to prove the obvious impossibility of the scene in question, it is not sufficient to address the core question - 'Can you curve a bullet?'
      But yes, the action from the movie is flatly impossible.

  • @Blindman51
    @Blindman51 Před 4 lety

    Man the internet needs more of these, I’ve watched them all and it just feels so empty now

  • @ShitholeHank
    @ShitholeHank Před 4 lety

    Omg! I watch you on game theory and I found ur channel and I love it

  • @joeymoffett00
    @joeymoffett00 Před 5 lety +5

    I'm glad yall are back!
    But WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU???

    • @peter-william
      @peter-william Před 5 lety

      He runs his science show on the game theory

  • @baileybrute5486
    @baileybrute5486 Před 5 lety +24

    Could you do a video on jet pack joyride. Could you really fly off of recoil. Great video thanks.

    • @Andre-uu5xv
      @Andre-uu5xv Před 5 lety +1

      OMG Great Idea!

    • @kyryzard
      @kyryzard Před 5 lety +1

      Yooooo!

    • @wisecrack3461
      @wisecrack3461 Před 5 lety +1

      I mean Newton's 3rd law says probably, would be interesting to see

    • @baileybrute5486
      @baileybrute5486 Před 5 lety +3

      I know but how much ammo, what Calibre, what gun, problems and most important, how stable would it be.

    • @ProjectFraz
      @ProjectFraz Před 5 lety +1

      And you know what? ITS GOD DAMN TERRIFYING.

  • @jonathanballmann7569
    @jonathanballmann7569 Před 5 lety +5

    145 grains is pretty light for .45ACP usual loads are 200-230 grains
    Also, its subsonic. Not supersonic

    • @SINcitySEAL
      @SINcitySEAL Před 5 lety

      Right I was like 45acp it's subsonic in its typical load

    • @cgunugc
      @cgunugc Před 4 lety

      Would explain why he's getting supersonic velocities, if he's using 145 grain.

    • @joiscode3832
      @joiscode3832 Před 2 lety

      Muh stopn power?

  • @gamer-x2173
    @gamer-x2173 Před 3 lety +1

    What I got from the video: So we need to make custom bullets