Who is the greatest Indigenous player of all time? - Sunday Footy Show | Footy on Nine
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- Matthew Lloyd and the Sunday Footy Show team take a look back at the greatest Indigenous players of all time.
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eddie sat next to me at my sister's wedding,maybe 2008. and yeh he's the nicest guy ive ever met, so humble, not some typical footy drug taker. just enjoyed food, a chat, and one or two beers. honest to god. absolute legend.
drug taker? That's your basis of morality? Lmfaooo
@@TDB2509 he didnt say that
@@MagpieR6 "and not some typical footy drug taker" clearly implies that. Even if it isn't true, it's heavily implied
@@TDB2509 Someone's touchy. A bit paranoid are we?
Andrew McLeod for mine. One of the most technically gifted footballers in history. Was a pleasure watching him play.
Maybe the greatest finals player ever
One of the GOATS period. I know it was Indigenous Round, hence best indigenous players but i feel McLeod gets a bit overlooked at times and is personally top 5 of all time for me.
Coming from someone who was born in '90 so im a bit lost to players before my time.
Bloke looks like he’s still be able to play today too. An absolute freak of a player.
McLeod wasn't as good as Peter Matera of West Coast. 2nd best Wingman ever behind Francis Bourke.
@@jacintaedwards1123 Respectfully disagree.
Buddy Franklin for me. The guy is a freak. To kick as many goals as he has in this era is astounding!
Buddy Franklin easily the greatest of the modern era
- Last player to kick 100 goals in a season
- Kicked the most goals in a footy game since 2001 with 13 goals against north in 2012
- 2x premiership player
- will end his career as the last person to kick 1000 goals
At his peak he was unstoppable i'd even go as far as to say hes probably the best forward the games had since the 1990s
Kicked 607 of his 981 goals between 2007 and 2014 in 170 games. He averaged 3.5 goals per game in that eight year span.
You're talking about indigenous players right?
I rate Wanganeen vertmy highly.
E Betts, Wirrapunda, P Matera, A Goodes.
A McLeod just missed out on my all time greatest team.
@@garynewton1263 No Barry Cable or Graeme farmer
@@baird55aus ......You couldn't possibly have G Farmer ahead of Adam Goodes.
I never saw G Farmer play. I was born in 68 and only watched footy from around 1975.
Jeff Farmer would be high on my list though.
Barry Cable? Well depends on the position. Maybe Interchange.
agree with all you have said, HOWEVER franklin should have retired 5 years ago. he hasnt been competitive come finals for 5 years now. in the minor rounds hes awesome, but in the heat and speed and ferocity of finals he is totally lost for 5 seasons now. in that final this year he was utterly useless. off in the 1st quarter and never returned. he is playing only for the money. hes finished. i wish he would retire.
No mention of Maurice Rioli??? He was just as much of a legend as anyone else mentioned.
They said modern-day players.
Missed the best eddie goal. Torp of the left foot at Adelaide Oval.
in the wet.
Adam Goodes, 2 flags and 2 brownlows in 2 different positions.... no doubt.
Im a swans fan, and Goodes aint better than Franklin.
I do think he gets overlooked though.
Calls a little girl out and publicly shames her for a harmless jab... Inspirational... 🤣🤣🤣
@@kurt10k74 why does that get to you so much... Dustin Martin threatened to stab a girl with chopsticks and no one talks about that..
@@isaiahmiller9438 Lol, I think they're all idiots. Wayne carey sleeping with his teammates Mrs, Martin with his off field trash, Goodes and his paper-thin skin just to mention a few.... And NRL players are worse...
I don't care about skin colour... My favourite player was Cyril Rioli followed by Sam Mitchell..
You'll find no trash about them, played the game hard, fair and both role models to anyone and everyone on and off the field.
Your mate... Not so much, when he wasn't sooking on the field you'll find him sooking about something off it hahaha 🤣🤣
@@kurt10k74 Cousins with his coke
Graham Farmer,Stephen Michael,Maurice Rioli,Jim Krakouer
Stephen Michael never played VFL/AFL so he doesn't count!
@@jacintaedwards1123 where does it say afl/vfl?
@@seanndut5449 ??? We're talking about the greatest players who played at the top level of Australian football which is VFL/AFL. Whether you like it or not. The Americans don't mention basketballers who haven't played NBA. The English don't mention soccer players who haven't played in the EPL. So why should players from second tier leagues get recognition over players who have played in the top tier? They shouldn't!!!!!
@Jacinta Edwards : so a Tassie Medal and Captain of the All Australian team not good enough for you? Oh, and what position was he playing when he got those honours? Ruck. But you have to remember he was only 188cm!!! His leap was prodigious. He was the first indigenous player to be named All Australian captain. He is the CHF in the Indigenous Team of the Century. He is in the Hall of Fame (inducted 1999).
But still not good enough for you, huh?
No mention of Michael Long??
or nicky winnmar
Long and Winnmar were very good but are not in the same realm as Buddy or Goodes
Michael Long was nothing special. he was beaten soundly by Graham.Wright in the 1990 grand final. Long never really became the player people thought he would. Wanganeen was way better.
Long was crap
Picket putting down Biglands was a great hit, because Biglands (a massive man) tried to pick Pickett off first.
Honourable Mention: Michael Long
Of course they call Cyril by his first name cause there’s so many bloody riolis
CYRRRIIIIILLLLL 💛🤎💛🤎💛🤎💛🤎💛
When you say Rioli most would think Maurice wouldn't they?
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 lately anyone here's Rioli they talking about Willie.
@@jasonfleming3328 really? Not Daniel? Would have thought the younger crowd knew Daniel better.
I'm old, I know😉
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 no not Daniel just Willie and his weed.
I dunno much about what happened pre 1980s, but Franklin is the best player I have ever seen ... let alone best indigenous.
Garry Ablett senior and Junior were better.
Peter Burgoyne best ever. Watch out his sons are about to play soon in AFL.
Locket easy better
No idea how you're leaving Peter Matera out, definitely better than Burgoyne or Wanganeen and certainly has a case over the other 3 as well.
Agreed. I have P. Matera at No 2 behind G.Farmer with A. Goodes at no 3. Peter Matera is the 2nd greatest wingman I've seen behind Francis Bourke. P. Matera was way better than McLeod and Wanganeen!
Best goal kicking wingman the game has ever seen for mine Matera, But Franklin one of the greatest footballers EVER (full stop!)
Adam Goodes. Pretty clearly too. 2 premierships, 2 brownlows and almost 400 games.
What about Micheal Long or Gavin Wanganeen who also 2 Premierships. One which won them for two different clubs. Goodes was an outstanding player. But to say he is clearly ahead of those two is really ignorant.
Andrew McLeod 2 premierships 2 normsmiths is a ripper to
Buddy is way better than goodes
Talia Mason or even Byron Pickett, 2 flags and a Normy
@@taliamason7986 2 brownlows.
Only one indigenous player has been best on ground in 3 consecutive grand finals... 1980, 1981 (WAFL) and 1982 (VFL), the late and great Maurice Rioli. What a player!
Say what you like but my for me as as hawk man.
Buddy for sheer talent.
Cyril for flair.
Burgoyne for consistency.
I'm happy with how we've recruited.
This game is nothing without the first nations boys.
1) Polly Farmer
2) Adam Goodes
3) Andrew Macleod
4) Lance Franklin
5) Gavin Waganeen
6) Peter Matera
7) Eddie Betts
8) Cyril Rioli
9) Michael Long
10) Shaun Burgoyne
No rioli's?
@@Marcelo-hf5xl Forgot about Cyril... he's def in the top ten
It's all good, there's a lot of great indigenous players 👍🏿@@kalebarancelovic
no mention of nicky winmar
Glad you put Shaun Burgoyne in there. He is underrated by many.
Without a doubt is "Graham (Polly) Farmer" The ONLY person in football history who actually changed the game by using the "handpass" as an offensive manoeuvre.
Winston Abraham was always my favourite growing up. Not saying he was the best ever but he should get more of a mention in these, surely.
He could read and respond ahead of time that tiny fraction earlier than others and the result was often a slashing run missing opposition by the breadth of a a boardinghouse scrape of butter. Could finish a goal as well. Always my favourite.
Derek Kickett i found him
No mention of Nicky Winmar??
Buddy by the length of the Nullarbor.
Going to finish with close to 1100 goals in an era no one else is going to get close. Pretty sure 1100 in the modern era is worth more than 1300 when you’re the only person in the 50 and 80% of forward 50 targets.
Buddy would have kicked 1600+ playing back then.
1600 behinds maybe
Disagree. Lockett is the best by far. And Hutson was better as well. Doesn't matter what era they would have played.
@@rayoflight8182 no chopping the arms free kicks back in those days either which most modern forwards get a lot of goals from those free kicks.
@@bear121982 that is so true. And they punch them in the back of the head when going for a mark. Just ask Michael Roach for Richmond.
Disagree the defence of today Is leaps and bounds better then the early 90s & 80s.
For Franklin to get so many goals in today's era is incredible.
Polly farmer. Never seen him play but I never heard one bad thing about him. Changed the game with handballing.
John Nicholls called him the best ruckman he had ever seen and play against.
They were judging players from the recent era.
The greatest indigenous player didn't play in the AFL / VFL. Twelve VFL clubs tried to get him, but he stayed in WA..... Stephen Michael.
Absolutely! South Freo 🐂🐕💪
If you don't play at the top level in sport you don't count. I was the greatest full back ever known..............at my local oval!
Played juniors against Andy Krakouer and his cousin Scotty.
Andy was always going to make it.
I remember him kicking something like 1.12 out of his side 1.17 for the day one game.
Said g'day to him again at the record crowd game in Launy against the Hawks. Chatted aways about old times. The guy is just a genuinely great footballer and good bloke.
Adam Goodes, the Australian Dream-time legend. One of the GOAT's of the game. And shout out to Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti amite?!
Great player but as a person he is a flog.
@@wayneryan7631 who Adam or Anthony 😂
@@wayneryan7631 what has Adam Goodes even done lmao??
Makes you proud to be a Port fan
Rioli was so good he won a Norm Smith with 18 disposals (Sam Mitchell was not good enough apparently with 34)
Norm Smith medals are all media awards. You don't have to be best on ground to win it. Just like dusty did in 2017. Wasn't best on ground but the media wanted to put a medal around his neck just cause he won the brownlow.
@@jasonfleming3328 just like Johanason from the Bulldogs. Tom Boyd deserved it that year. Could also question Micheal Longs Norm Smith. Gary O'Donnell would feel a bit robbed.
My 20 nominations: Andrew McLeod, Syd Jackson, Adam Goodes, Eddie Betts, Lance Franklin, Maurice Rioli Sr, Michael Long, Graham Farmer, Nicky Winmar, Michael O’Loughlin, Gavin Wanganeen, The Burgoynes, Jim Krakouer, Byron Pickett, Peter Matera, Jeff Farmer, Cyril Rioli, Darryl White
Seen Maurice Rioli and Steven Michael at South Fremantle . Can’t think of anyone Better . My Opinion
Well my nominations would be G. Farmer (Geel), N. MacDonald (Ess), N. Winmar(StK), D. Wirrapunda (WCE), P.Matera (WCE), A. McLeod (Adel), G. Wanganeen (PA), M. Rioli (Rich), E. Betts (Carl/Adel), A. Goodes (Syd) & M. Michael (Coll/Bris).
My final 3:
1) G. Farmer (Geel)
2) P. Matera (WCE)
3) A. Goodes (Syd)
Byron pickets amazing as a child he was my hero in afl
Good segment, well done.
Liam Jurrah. Just a shame we didnt see more of him
Darryl White from the Brisbane Lions was my favourite.
Franklin
Goodes
Great segment all round!
Jeff Farmer definitely!!
Nicky Winmar
Wanganeen by a yard. Could play anywhere unlike the other 99% named. Played in defence against the most dominant forwards in the history of the game as an 18yo. Has every accolade imaginable besides the norm which he could have easily won in 04. Should have won Brownlows 10 years apart how he didnt poll a vote in a final round dominant showdown win is farcical.
Goodes by a mile.
@@richardbehan8118 not even close. Look at how revered he is now. Oh wait not at all by anyone other than Swans fans.
@@jainiland8943 if you think Wanganeen is anywhere near the status of Goodes you obviously don't watch a lot of football.
Wanganeen had one good year. The rest were average at best.
@@richardbehan8118 yeah you generally make the essendon and port adelaide team of the century as well as the afl hall of fame by playing a few average games. Give it a rest
@@jainiland8943 he didn't make port Adelaide team of the century. What are you talking about? The fact you think Wanganeen is better than Goodes proves you have no idea about football.
But hey, you're probably only say it because you are either a Port Adelaide or Essendon supporter
As a die hard Port fan, it's Andrew Mcleod by a country mile. People forget over time how ridiculously good he was. Great bloke too.
Anyone heard of Nicky winmar?
Maurice Rioli without question
Sid Jackson was the first I saw and I was very impressed but Gavin Wanganeen is my favourite. So brave and talented. I think he won the Brownlow medal in his first year.
The Big Cat Polly Farmer followed by Barry Cable.
What about cockatoo Collins? Give him a mention for his name at least! 😅
For highlight reel, definitely Eddie.
Graham (Polly) Farmer.
McLeod, Wanganeen, Pickett, the two Burgoynes… all Port players.
Byron picket what a champion.
Hard to go past Goodes. Won 2 x brownlows in 2 different positions.
Lance Franklin or Adam Goodes
Michael Graham (Sturt Sanfl) i saw him running and bouncing a ball down the wing and in the background a Ford Falcon was being driven down the street parallel with the oval , he was keeping up to the Ford Falcon
Wow! i grew up less than a kilometre from Unley Oval! i used to go see Sturt almost week in week out in the 70s as a kid! MIchael Graham. Eddie Fry. and non indigenous players the Heinrich Brothers, Rick Davies, Kym Klomp, Jimmy Derrington. wow what an Era! what a great side Sturt were in the 70s!!!
Goodes, Buddy then daylight.
Had McLeod and Peter Matera fighting for 1 and 2.... Filling out the 5 in any order were Buddy, Goodes and Burgoyne.
Matera? Wtf?
@@kingwillbisthebest Yep Matera was a gun. 5 goals in a grand final playing on a wing.
Maurice Rioli is the goat
He could be surrounded by opposition players and still get out. Saw him win the Norm Smith medal live in the 82 grand final.
Cyril Rioli, for mine... magic...
Nice segregation. They are all players of one game. It’s like saying you’re the best of the aborigines
Hard agree. How bout we do who was the best white fella footy player?
Also made me cringe
@Pas K that was sarcasm.
Stephen Michael.
There is no comparison.
Maurice rioli
Farmer, Franklin, Goodes and McLeod are the best off the top of my head. Farmer revolutionised the game, the other 3 dominated it
P. Matera.
Relton Roberts is the GOAT!!
Eddy Betts
OMG You have totally forgotten cockatoo Collins and shey
The greatest without no doubt is Sir Doug Nicholls he has even a Round named after him no other indigenous player has ...prove me wrong
Polly Graham Farmer And A Goodes
The first aboriginal player who played the game is the greatest.
Barry Cable,was as good as any mentioned, if the role of a true rover still existed,Barry would be your number one pick.
Eddie by a country mile
play him anywhere but the forward line he aint worth dust. Not even close to top 10 indigenious players
1) Andrew McLeod
2) Lance Franklin
3) Polly Farmer
4) Eddie Betts
5) Gavin Waganeen
6) Peter Matera
7) Adam Goodes
Browny overrating Cyril Rioli like everyone does, was good. Nothing compared to the list above ^
Gilbert McAdam
Cyril Rioli jnr 4 premiership and a Norm Smith medal Adam Goodes 2 Brownlow medals
Its probably Greg Williams if we are just going off accolades
Of course. Greatest Centreman I've ever seen. What a machine he was and only 176 cms.
Goodes and Franklin best I've seen
Very good picks guys but I disagree on one. Goodes was probably the best. People forget that he played ruck against many over 2 metres & he was 7cms shorter. Buddy is probably better than anyone else & only surpassed or equalled by Lockett & Carey let alone indigenous. He's definitely a better kick than both of them & with Carey that's saying something. Silk has changed the game result off his own foot many, many times. Wanganeen was an amazing freak of nature, like Cyril & McCleod. Those 3 belong together but Buddy & Goodes were outstanding. Even though he's not won a GF at Sydney, he's brought the patrons into AFL in Sydney.
McLeod !!
Adam Goodes, Buddy Franklin.
Lance Franklin...
Cyril Rioli
Bad days when a player could run deliberately through an opponent who had his head over and eyes on the ball, and be considered tough. It was gutless in a lot of respects.
yea... was within the rules though so not a bad tactic. but i agree somewhat, contact like that shouldn't have been allowed
Can't believe they missed out on Raphael Clarke
All that he'll ever be remembered for was being wrapped up in one of Max Rooke's great tackles in the 2009 Grand Final to give Geelong the first goal of the match.
"Rooke's after Ralphe Clarke and he has got him" -Tim Lane
What a stupid debate to have. How do you define greatest without your definition being flawed?.
the greatest Indigenous players of all time were members of premiership teams, followed by Brownlow medal/s winners, then being members of runners up teams, then anyone of the finals teams.
If they never played in premierships (nor finals) then what's greatest got to do with it ?? you need a premiership medal to be great 😐.
Peter Matera no.1
Prob wanganeen
Rioli M @ Jr Boy, Michael Long and Andrew McLeod a tie.
Polly farmer then Wirrapunda, mcleod.
So Polly Farmer not an option?
If Franklin and Goodes played on each both in their peak, Franklin would destroy him.
Both completely different players. Ridiculous comment.
Only if Franklin got to play forward
Really? Goodes played ruck and midfield. There is no way Franklin could run with Goodes for a quarter.
Andy mac
Jeff Farmer?
Very goodbut not Top 10.
Winmar
Roderick Picket Kickit!!
Jimmy krakouer the all time best indigenous player.
Peter matera
Cyril
Polly Farmer
Eddie betts
Australian?
Dolf Lundgren.