Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I am a single mother of a young child that's passion is barrel racing. I have to bump up from my minivan to a truck I can afford. I love my truck 2004 6.0 F350 dually) but I am learning how to do things myself. So when I have to get it serviced I understand the process and know somewhat about it so I'm not getting ripped off. I love working on it. I have small hands so I can squeeze around to change the ipr valve sensor but one of the major issues is I don't have a man's strenght. thanks again.
You can invest in a small compressor and an impact wrench and air ratchet and pretty much not need a ton of strength. Cordless is really nice to but more expensive. Just remember to always hand start bolts and use the impact to remove mostly.
I get what they are trying to illustrate here, but the horrendous base cranking at the start of the vid was never addressed -- at about 6:30 during the bubble test the engine cranked over evenly -- something was done that was not shown in the vid
I’m glad you mentioned this because I’ve been watching videos for weeks now and while watching, I decided to try to train my ear to help determine the problem. At the beginning of the video, you hear what could be something.. possibly catastrophic? Like a bad lifter? Again, I am still learning but the 2 cranks were completely different.
2004 f250 6.0. Driving fine down freeway 65mph. Just stoped running. No pedal response, now it just cranks over fine and won’t start. No indication of want to start while cranking over. Batteries are full charged,Fuel level just under half tank. Put 5gal fuel, still no start.
Thank you for your video. My old 6.0 had two plugs on the hfcm. The new has only one. What the second plug is for? What would happen if i don't connect the second plug on the cfcm?
Man you guys really know your stuff my truck randomly died on the highway the other day with this hopefully I can find out very detailed and instructive video what kind of scanner did you use might just buy one
Have a 2003 that has no start, no codes, low icp pressure shown, no leaks on oil rails while spinning over, order a adaptor to check with air, did change the IPR due to very minor metal shavings. Also when hooked to 12v couldn't feel the solenoid being activated. FICM is good, crank and cam sensor shows good. I'm leaning for high pressure oil pump but normally you have a code set for icp. While cranking the highest I've seen is 497 psi. Does anyone have a ideas?
I have 2006 6.0L no start. has a no ficm sync and a cam sensor code. replaced the ficm, cam,cam sensor harness, two new batteries and still no start. still have cam sensor code. I was told that it's the lpop. plz help
Thank you for the question. Our first suggestion would be going through the cam sensor code diagnostic steps. If all checks out there, a good inspection of the sensor and how it is mounting into the engine block would be next. Verify that it is completely seated in the block to achieve the correct sensor gap to the pin on the camshaft. One way to verify this is installing the sensor with no o-rings, the o-rings sometimes bind which cause the sensor to not fully seat in the bore.
Could be top injector seals, maybe the oil rail itself. Here too is a link for additional steps to consider. Good luck! alliantpower.com/sites/default/files/documents/technical-bulletins/public/2014/aptb_05-14_en_1.pdf
Have you ever disassembled this motor? 😟 Sometimes it is best to replace a lot of things while you have the engine apart so you aren't taking it apart all the time.
Good morning, my friend I live in Brazil and I bought a f250 2008 6.0 power stroke plus she is missing the diesel injectors. I would like to know if to change the injectors we have to update the injectors module or I can only change and start.
I got an 03 power stroke diesel 4350 I did the injectors on ano started ran fine and then it this kind of faded lost power and Now it won't start like vapor locked or any ideas The motor won't even turn over
hi I have a 2005 f250 I replaced my ipr scream stc fitting dummy plugs and top and bottom of stand pipes and when hot I'm only getting 80psi at the icp
You have a leak within the high pressure oil system circuit. Please perform an air leak test, preferably when the engine is warm. You can follow the attached APTB for diagnosing a leak on the high pressure oil system circuit. This should be able to guide you with the needed steps to find a leak. alliantpower.com/sites/default/files/documents/technical-bulletins/public/2014/aptb_05-14_en_1.pdf
Possibly.... 6.0s need oil pressure, fuel pressure, and air to run. The computer needs to see 500 psi in the oil system to actually fire the injectors and the injectors need 45 psi of fuel to function properly, thought they it will not shut off with lower than 45 psi, its just bad for them. As seen in this video, hook up a fuel pressure gauge to check fuel pressure, but the truck will still start even if you're down to like 20 psi. It sounds to me like you have a problem with oil pressure. There is a low pressure oil pump (lpop) and a high pressure oil pump (hpop) on these trucks. The truck needs at least 7 psi in the lpop to feed the hpop, which needs the aforementioned 500 psi. If your truck starts intermittently, its likely either an air leak in your high pressure oil system so the computer is not able to see 500 psi or your hpop has failed; or you have a low pressure oil problem, though that is unlikely. If you have a 2003 or early build date 2004 model, your hpop has likely failed. If you have a late build date 2004 through 2007, you likely have a leak in your high pressure oil system - usually stc fitting, dummy plugs, or your ipr screen is clogged with debris. You can test for a leak on a late 2004 and up by unplugging your icp sensor which is located on the front of your passenger side valve cover by the glow plug harness. Unplug it and try and start your truck. With it unplugged, the trucks computer will just assume the truck has more tham 500 psi. If it starts right up after doing this, you have confirmed a high pressure oil leak or a blocked ipr screen. If it still wont start, you likely have a low pressure oil problem. Test this by removing the oil filter and cap, and cranking th truck over and see if it fills up the oil filter housing with oil. If it does not, then your truck is not building up enough psi to feed the high pressure system. If you have a 2003 or early 2004, then you can perform the same test to check for low pressure oil, but for high pressure oil the likelyhood of a leak is not high, so you can pretty much assume that the hpop itself is failing. Also check to make sure you have enough oil in the truck before doing this.
I bet that was expensive. I put a new S. belt on mine, now it will not start. The old belt came apart. Thought 💭 it might be the batteries, put two new ones in. They died out after 4 or five times trying to start. 😢
So let me get this correct, you thought it was a good idea to check the coolant level, coolant hoses, glow plug module, ohm the glow plugs and check to see if there is compression going into the fuel system all before you checked the oil system for leaks and checking the ipr? You have an Ford IDS scan tool, you can tell the main problem is on high pressure oil side and yet you go through all the Bullshit for nothing. I'm not saying to all don't know how to work on the 6.0, but you just billed the customer $50-100 for unnecessary diagnostic time.
I did think that myself. I think they were just trying to demonstrate how to fix a crank no start issue for video purposes though. I doubt they would charge the customer unnecessary costs. Nice clean shop!
Hi Mike,I have a 2006 f350 4x4. I Currently have a dripping in my rea main oils seal. Will I damage the engine by using main oil stop leak products. I have been looking at " Burts" to help me thanks. Phil.
Phil, We do not recommend using products like Stop Leak. We recommend replacing the leaking seal and following the instructions provided by the service manual. However, we have not used these products in our shop, so we really have no idea if any of them work. You will most likely need a new rear main seal with a repair sleeve. Thank you for the question.
Have an 05 f450 with the 6.0. Sometimes it will start but I have to idle above 2000rpm to keep it running and if I let off of it the engine dies. What could be the possible cause of that?
i have a 2003 f250 with 6.0 was driving and it died i went and put 3gals fuel in drove 2miles stopped drove 3miles home and didnt make it codes read p2614 p2617 p2290 p1000 what to do?
hello. I have a F350 2006 powerstroke navistar engine 6.0L, the engine crank but no start and the panel keep the lights off, when check with the scan show only one code, "communication error".....could be a failure in the PCM or some problem with the panel?, because all the rest of the things are OK, please I need some tips......I will appreciate, thanks in advance......
Most of the time, this code means that you have a bad instrument cluster. We have wiring diagrams for testing for power, ground, and CAN network resistance. If you would like those diagrams, please email tech support at techsupport@alliantpower.com
Metal in the ipr screen could have come from many other places than the hpop. You say that's the only place it could have come from. False. Ask me how I know. Lol
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I am a single mother of a young child that's passion is barrel racing. I have to bump up from my minivan to a truck I can afford. I love my truck 2004 6.0 F350 dually) but I am learning how to do things myself. So when I have to get it serviced I understand the process and know somewhat about it so I'm not getting ripped off. I love working on it. I have small hands so I can squeeze around to change the ipr valve sensor but one of the major issues is I don't have a man's strenght. thanks again.
You can invest in a small compressor and an impact wrench and air ratchet and pretty much not need a ton of strength. Cordless is really nice to but more expensive. Just remember to always hand start bolts and use the impact to remove mostly.
No one removes the induction system like you did, no bad words or anything. Amazing.
I get what they are trying to illustrate here, but the horrendous base cranking at the start of the vid was never addressed -- at about 6:30 during the bubble test the engine cranked over evenly -- something was done that was not shown in the vid
I’m glad you mentioned this because I’ve been watching videos for weeks now and while watching, I decided to try to train my ear to help determine the problem. At the beginning of the video, you hear what could be something.. possibly catastrophic? Like a bad lifter? Again, I am still learning but the 2 cranks were completely different.
2004 f250 6.0. Driving fine down freeway 65mph. Just stoped running. No pedal response, now it just cranks over fine and won’t start. No indication of want to start while cranking over. Batteries are full charged,Fuel level just under half tank. Put 5gal fuel, still no start.
Thank you for your video.
My old 6.0 had two plugs on the hfcm. The new has only one.
What the second plug is for?
What would happen if i don't connect the second plug on the cfcm?
Man you guys really know your stuff my truck randomly died on the highway the other day with this hopefully I can find out very detailed and instructive video what kind of scanner did you use might just buy one
Thank you for the comment. We use the factory Ford scan tool, which is a VCM 2 w/ IDS software.
You can read a lot of the ODBII data you need with a
Yep, as well as a plethora of scanners on Amazon. Mine was same as yours, and it stemmed from fuel injector/FICM wiring issues
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Checking the oil pressure should have been on this list.
Hi, how many faulty injectors would cause a 6.0 not to crank?
All 8
So you don't bleed the air out the oil pump ?
That shop floor tho!!!
Great video God bless Im having a problem with the same engine I hope to fix it thank you
Have a 2003 that has no start, no codes, low icp pressure shown, no leaks on oil rails while spinning over, order a adaptor to check with air, did change the IPR due to very minor metal shavings. Also when hooked to 12v couldn't feel the solenoid being activated. FICM is good, crank and cam sensor shows good. I'm leaning for high pressure oil pump but normally you have a code set for icp. While cranking the highest I've seen is 497 psi. Does anyone have a ideas?
I have 2006 6.0L no start. has a no ficm sync and a cam sensor code. replaced the ficm, cam,cam sensor harness, two new batteries and still no start. still have cam sensor code. I was told that it's the lpop. plz help
Thank you for the question. Our first suggestion would be going through the cam sensor code diagnostic steps. If all checks out there, a good inspection of the sensor and how it is mounting into the engine block would be next. Verify that it is completely seated in the block to achieve the correct sensor gap to the pin on the camshaft. One way to verify this is installing the sensor with no o-rings, the o-rings sometimes bind which cause the sensor to not fully seat in the bore.
GRACIAS POR ESTA INFORMACIÓN
i think I may have the same problem with mine i already replace the stc,dummy plugs,stand pipes recheck for air leaks no more leaks and still no start
Could be top injector seals, maybe the oil rail itself. Here too is a link for additional steps to consider. Good luck! alliantpower.com/sites/default/files/documents/technical-bulletins/public/2014/aptb_05-14_en_1.pdf
Thank you for the response I'm getting a leak from the oil filter housing so I'm pretty sure my hpop is a goner
Awesome video !
What a work like that should cost in a de end mechanic shop that does that work ?
Men this video its to tell me to replace everthing new.
To buy parts
when its only 1 small thing needs to be fix..
Have you ever disassembled this motor? 😟 Sometimes it is best to replace a lot of things while you have the engine apart so you aren't taking it apart all the time.
Good morning, my friend I live in Brazil and I bought a f250 2008 6.0 power stroke plus she is missing the diesel injectors. I would like to know if to change the injectors we have to update the injectors module or I can only change and start.
Change and start
Best solution..have it towed to the dealership and trade it in
For a Cummins
It does not start because it is a 6.0
Well that was easy!
Is there a way to get that checklist ????
I got an 03 power stroke diesel 4350 I did the injectors on ano started ran fine and then it this kind of faded lost power and Now it won't start like vapor locked or any ideas The motor won't even turn over
hi I have a 2005 f250 I replaced my ipr scream stc fitting dummy plugs and top and bottom of stand pipes and when hot I'm only getting 80psi at the icp
You have a leak within the high pressure oil system circuit. Please perform an air leak test, preferably when the engine is warm. You can follow the attached APTB for diagnosing a leak on the high pressure oil system circuit. This should be able to guide you with the needed steps to find a leak. alliantpower.com/sites/default/files/documents/technical-bulletins/public/2014/aptb_05-14_en_1.pdf
thanks guys
Does Alliant sale the F I C M that fits a 2004 f250 built in1 month of 04. 7 screws an is it come pre programmed ready to go in an start up 6.0 Diesel
Hey there! Please give our customer support team a call and they can help you out!
Please note this is a 2005+ motor 03-04 are more commonly to fail with HPOP
Yes I have a 6007.
I'm trying to figure out why my truck will not start back after it has been running for a while now
Hi. What is the name of the diagnostic equipment to make a diagnosis on a Ford F 350 6.0 2004 with an OBD connector. I have an internationvl truck
Get an OBD link plus and download for scan
What is the reason for this video, Its helping no one unless you have computer scan tool or your a shop, Not for the average JOE
Average Joe probably shouldn't be playing with diesel anyway
thanks for sharing.
So would a bad oil pressure pump make the truck start at all? Mine starts intermittently, but now has started to just shut off after time.
Possibly.... 6.0s need oil pressure, fuel pressure, and air to run. The computer needs to see 500 psi in the oil system to actually fire the injectors and the injectors need 45 psi of fuel to function properly, thought they it will not shut off with lower than 45 psi, its just bad for them. As seen in this video, hook up a fuel pressure gauge to check fuel pressure, but the truck will still start even if you're down to like 20 psi. It sounds to me like you have a problem with oil pressure. There is a low pressure oil pump (lpop) and a high pressure oil pump (hpop) on these trucks. The truck needs at least 7 psi in the lpop to feed the hpop, which needs the aforementioned 500 psi. If your truck starts intermittently, its likely either an air leak in your high pressure oil system so the computer is not able to see 500 psi or your hpop has failed; or you have a low pressure oil problem, though that is unlikely. If you have a 2003 or early build date 2004 model, your hpop has likely failed. If you have a late build date 2004 through 2007, you likely have a leak in your high pressure oil system - usually stc fitting, dummy plugs, or your ipr screen is clogged with debris. You can test for a leak on a late 2004 and up by unplugging your icp sensor which is located on the front of your passenger side valve cover by the glow plug harness. Unplug it and try and start your truck. With it unplugged, the trucks computer will just assume the truck has more tham 500 psi. If it starts right up after doing this, you have confirmed a high pressure oil leak or a blocked ipr screen. If it still wont start, you likely have a low pressure oil problem. Test this by removing the oil filter and cap, and cranking th truck over and see if it fills up the oil filter housing with oil. If it does not, then your truck is not building up enough psi to feed the high pressure system. If you have a 2003 or early 2004, then you can perform the same test to check for low pressure oil, but for high pressure oil the likelyhood of a leak is not high, so you can pretty much assume that the hpop itself is failing. Also check to make sure you have enough oil in the truck before doing this.
Step one should be check the oil!! Sir
Truck won’t start. I have no fuel at the fuel filter under the cab. Any thoughts why?
Your fuel pump is not working genius lmfao
I have an F-350 same 2004 won't start if I have to have that work done but it's going to cost me if it's my oil pump is bad
I bet that was expensive. I put a new S. belt on mine, now it will not start. The old belt came apart. Thought 💭 it might be the batteries, put two new ones in. They died out after 4 or five times trying to start. 😢
Was there a pulley that was seized?
Where are they located I would like to obtain your services I have a Ford with the same problem
Never see truck no starting for bad air filter ??
This is good!
You really didn't go into detail on how to pull all the parts, turbo, fuel pump, is that because there are other video's on this?
Yes, and I would suspect it is because this is just a daignostic and cause video, not a tutorial on doing the full job.
So let me get this correct, you thought it was a good idea to check the coolant level, coolant hoses, glow plug module, ohm the glow plugs and check to see if there is compression going into the fuel system all before you checked the oil system for leaks and checking the ipr? You have an Ford IDS scan tool, you can tell the main problem is on high pressure oil side and yet you go through all the Bullshit for nothing. I'm not saying to all don't know how to work on the 6.0, but you just billed the customer $50-100 for unnecessary diagnostic time.
I did think that myself. I think they were just trying to demonstrate how to fix a crank no start issue for video purposes though. I doubt they would charge the customer unnecessary costs. Nice clean shop!
Hi Mike,I have a 2006 f350 4x4. I Currently have a dripping in my rea main oils seal. Will I damage the engine by using main oil stop leak products. I have been looking at " Burts" to help me thanks. Phil.
Phil, We do not recommend using products like Stop Leak. We recommend replacing the leaking seal and following the instructions provided by the service manual. However, we have not used these products in our shop, so we really have no idea if any of them work. You will most likely need a new rear main seal with a repair sleeve. Thank you for the question.
Thanks Mike. Guess I'm going to rob two to three banks :) Just kidding. Thank you for the reply
I hve a 6.0 pure problem cant get it start i need help
Have an 05 f450 with the 6.0. Sometimes it will start but I have to idle above 2000rpm to keep it running and if I let off of it the engine dies. What could be the possible cause of that?
Did you ever figure your problem out
Sounds like an extreme lack of fuel pressure
i have a 2003 f250 with 6.0 was driving and it died i went and put 3gals fuel in drove 2miles stopped drove 3miles home and didnt make it codes read p2614 p2617 p2290 p1000 what to do?
Did you fix the problem on your truck?
If you did, I would like to know what the problem was?
Looks like the flow chart missed step 1. To press play on the eight track porno music for some suicidal background ambiance.
hello. I have a F350 2006 powerstroke navistar engine 6.0L, the engine crank but no start and the panel keep the lights off, when check with the scan show only one code, "communication error".....could be a failure in the PCM or some problem with the panel?, because all the rest of the things are OK, please I need some tips......I will appreciate, thanks in advance......
Cesar, thank you for the question. Do you have a code number? Please let us know.
......the code number show by the scan is U0155 "communication error with cluster panel".....
Most of the time, this code means that you have a bad instrument cluster. We have wiring diagrams for testing for power, ground, and CAN network resistance. If you would like those diagrams, please email tech support at techsupport@alliantpower.com
...Thanks for the help I will do it......
Then after it’s fix it’s still a shit 6.0 powerstroke
why wouldn't you replace and oil cooler with metal in oil. that's a no brainer on any engine with metal in oil.
Where are you located
So it was the high pressure oil pump or what
Yes he said that.
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Water and diesel
How much did all that cost? What was his bill?
Couple thousand maybe..
Your 1st child's arm!! The floors were cleaner than my sons floor!!
Torque pro app
Is this diagnostic sheet available for download?
danbrown081584 email techsupport@alliantpower.com and we'll send you the guides. Thank you for the inquiry.
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Losing fuel prime 6.0
Grater and diesel
12 minutes of word salad use diesel tech ron
Metal in the ipr screen could have come from many other places than the hpop. You say that's the only place it could have come from. False. Ask me how I know. Lol
What was your issue
Was it the oil cooler screen?
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Absolute bs