EUROVISION 2023 VOTING ANALYSIS Part 2 - Who voted for the countries placing 7th to 26th?
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- I analyze the votes that all countries outside the Top 6 received in Eurovision from both televote and juries.
Why did Belgium come 7th? How did Croatia and Let 3 achieve 13th place and where did Mimicats points for Portugal come from?
Find out in this video! - Zábava
Correction: Czechia had 3 Slavic languages and Sweden gave France 10 points in the jury vote
Joker out of course got good televotes from Finland, because of the bromance between Käärijä and Bojan!
Aaargh true. Forgot to mention that 😂🇫🇮🥰🇸🇮
On the 10 points from Austria for Croatia: Yes, there is a big ex-yugoslav community here, but that usually wouldn't be enough for 10 points. Really, with the Croat entry this year, it came down to cultural sensibilities. We love satire and dark humour here, and there was quite a bit of discussion in the media about how intelligent the lyrics of Let 3's song actually are. The song is a great display of conveying a message between the lines, of being very in-your-face but also very subtle. So I am not at all surprised about the 10 points
also 8 points from Ukraine and Albania. it’s the shared humour i think too
There is also an interview after semis from let3 where they talk that they could do decent in finals bc of fan bases in certain countries and most countries that gave them points were countries they mentioned.
This analysis shows how much impact block voting / regional voting / diaspora voting still has on televotes especially. It won't help a country win or even necessarily get a good result, however, it will guarantee enough points to avoid placing last. It also highlights how televoters focus on a small amount of songs, if you exclude these types of votes.
Georgia 🇬🇪 and Lithuania 🇱🇹 are very good friends in general, both suffering under the Soviet management
6:00 I think it's because Lithuanians love Georgian wine. (at least my ex does) :D
I think it's because of Lithuania's support to Georgia during war in 2008. And there is a little Georgian diaspora in Lithuania
SufferED not suffering, WE ARE FREE NOW 🇱🇹
@@ugnezzz462 suffered under the soviets, suffering under ruskynas now
on australia voting for austria when it was first in the running order - since the show is so early here, the only people actively waking up for it are eurovision fans, like, casual viewers watch the repeated ~7pm broadcast. eurovision fans have probably been on the who the hell is edgar hype train since it came out.
It's so funny the difference between the Jury and the Televote for Croatia xD
Australia was just too sleepy and thought they're voting for Australia, when it was in fact Austria. :D
Haha good explanation
Evidement got a lot of hype here in Norway, so i’m not surprised she got as many points as she did here, a lot of people like the song, and i honestly thought she would get more points than loreen in the televote
The thing that I am most proud of for this year is me predicting our (Australia’s) jury 12 to Belgium 🇧🇪 and actually that they’d do well in the televote here as well. I did that because we just typically vote for them as a sort of historical vote thing probably because of similar musical taste and due to the fact we have to e wake up early making memorable performances stick out more to viewers who would mostly be fans I’d assume due to the inconvenience of having to wake up at 5 am (in Sydney) and as early as 3 am in Perth due to time zones (which I go through ofc). We have them 12 in 2016 and both of them are actually kind of similar because the vocal performance are quite impressive and the songs generally appeal to the juries due to them being slick pop songs and I was correct. The televote could be explained by these two reasons, similar to the jury vote, meaning I made complete sense when making that prediction making the fact that it came true super expected.
I think there are 2 main reasons that Australia didn't do well in the televotes. One is simply that a lot of people don't think we belong in the competition because we aren't a part of Europe. The other is that a lot of Rock/Metal fans who may have spread their votes between Finland, Australia and Germany used all their votes on trying to get Finland to beat Sweden because we knew the Juries would give Sweden such a massive lead.
The televoting ended before the juries revealed their votes
@eurovisionhistories But everyone knew before the contest (from bookmakers, social media, etc) that the winner was going to be Finland or Sweden. There were people on social media saying they would vote for Finland rather than another favorite, because they wanted Finland to win. Finland vacuumed up the rock/not-pop vote, with not much left over for countries like Australia and Germany.
@@eurovisionhistoriesi should have said we predicted that Sweden would have a strong lead. I have edited my comment to make more sense. I think a lot of countries votes suffered from this year feeling a bit like a 2 horse race. It was a strong competition with a lot of great songs that definitely deserved more points. Honestly I'm not bitter though. Australia is just glad to be included 😁🇦🇺 We love Eurovision so much 💖
Croatia deserved better.
Belgium's geographical split in the televote is actually pretty sad to see tbh
yes, it is.. I didn't really wanted to see that. I guess his message is needed in a lot of places...
@@dv2483 I'm not so sure about it. I'm gay from Eastern Europe and I didn't vote for Belgium simply cause I didn't like the song.
I actually dont think most of the people watching casually knew he was gay. Just the sound of the song sounds very poppy but in western way unlike some other pop songs.
As a Belgian, I thought his song was very boring and too 'made for eurovision'. Still catchy though so I get the votes, but I don't think it is necessarily due to LGBT sentiments that the map is so split.
About Joker Out - I'm pretty sure that if the song were in English televotes would look different. Slovenian sounds really pleasant to people speaking other slavic languages, I'm Polish and I can understand little bit of the lyrics even though I've never learnt Slovenian (and haven't heard much of it in music till now ;)) There's something 'familiar in a nice way' in the song. I voted for it myself and most of my friends who love ESC did as well. I guess it might not sound so good to western Europeans...?
I'm Finnish, my family had the same though, even though there's nothing particularly familiar in the language itself for us. The Slovanian really did elavate the song, I think in english it might have had a similar faith to Malta or Azerbaijan, sadly. We speculated if the Georgian entry too could have been saved if it was in native language. The english lyrics make zero sense, which is quite distracting even if the song sounds so great otherwise. We also joked about how Germany would have gotten even higher points from us Finns if it was in German instead. And I genuinely wonder if Central Europeans might have preferred it that way also, even if metal in itself is way more everyday and familiar for the Nordics. It would have been interesting to see, hope they dare to try in the future.
I'm so glad we had such a nice year for native language songs! I tend to like ESC enstries from the Balkans in native language, and always feel sad whenever I hear any of the songs being translated for the semifinals after national selection. I hope countries dare to keep it up and not shy away from sending something other than english. When it was mandatory to sing in one of the official languages in ESC, the Finns really did think we'd never have a chance with a Finnish song. Personally I'm dreaming of a year of all Nordics sending a native language song! Would be fire.
same for me! i'm croatian and i can get the jist of the song, especially if i look at the lyrics. it feels very cozy and familiar but bojan's voice is also really smooth and nice to listen to :) honestly a shame they did so poorly, they were the highlight of the 2nd semi for me.
I am Canadian and I loved Joker Out. Even though I didn’t vote for it it was in my top 3. I listened to the English version and didn’t like it as much.
Very interesting analysis!! thanks!
Great video, thank you!
This year people have complained about the jury being unfair and biased but that proves the public vote is even MORE biased than jury's. The fact several ppl wanted to have an all-public voting thinking it's more just and neutral is beyond me 😅 honestly public vote is mostly about friendship and diaspora, very little about quality.
I wonder what s the quality od Israel. Do you wanna check my dna🤣
Yeah having an all-public vote is a bad idea. If anything this year's edition had proven why we need a jury, despite Finland not winning.
I disagree. the top songs are always always given vast majority of the votes because people everywhere vote heavily for their top 3 to actually affect the top results. no one cares who comes 10th place. if you look closely at the top 6 results it's from literally everywhere. I bet a lot of these 1-5 low pts are a few dozen votes, no joke.
Finland giving Germany and Croatia 4 points in the televotes and 0 to Sweden is exactly why we need the Jury
@@ESPirits87what? They had more inyeresting songs than that boring copied pop song the jury somehow worshipped only because her is Loreen and she already won. He quality means same stuff all over again then yes.
I said this before but please mention artist and song. Not only countries. Cause some of us can't keep some of them apart...🙏🏽
4:00 I also have the feeling that the Jurys often vote for similar songs as their own (Czechia - Switzerland; Poland - Cyprus (what u explained); Germany-Australia)
Interesting about Australia getting 8 points from Finland but low everywhere else - wondering if that's more to do with Finland's music taste, or most of the would-be votes for AUS elsewhere going to Finland?
Both Australia and Germany actually. You might be right
6 from Estonia also
We loved Australia here. Our national song check result (viisukupla) was really aligned with outr tele vote. The audience loved Norway and Czechia in particular and were also very much into France and Italy, and it shows in the results of the national vote. And then, as a nation, we have never been behind an artist as much as we were behind Käärijä. And a lot of the artists that received points from the Finnish televote were those that were regularly featured on his social media and in UMK content (Slovenia, Australia, Austria).
The vote for Germany is self-explanatory. This is Finland after all.
Portugal 1st & Iceland 2nd were the ONLY ones who gave Australia 12pts! Finland's music taste isn't THAT MUCH of astonishing, sorry.
@@vitorjoaquimpires public vote.
I'm very happy that Ukraine seemed to appreciate Let 3, especially when I could totally understand Ukrainians being put off by it.
I did hear from some people in the media here that initially, people thought they were actually applauding dictators and war, but when people paid attention to the lyrics( since many words are similar to Ukrainian), people understood the song’s humor. We like to troll here. There are plenty of videos and songs making fun of Russia and Russian soldiers here. Our daily lives are stressful and grim enough; laughter and trolling keeps us alive mentally and emotionally, and thus, physically:) And why wouldn’t we like a song that calls Putin a “crocodile psychopath?”😂
Yes! Forgot to mention that actually
Excellent video, you've really got the point.
Speaking of Moldovian song, its main problem was: the performance and the meaning/verses people tend to check before the vote... are in a really huge discrepancy.
Is it really the case that diaspora can outvote local population of any country to set the top televote in that country? France and UK for example. I would really love to see the actual numbers of individual votes. Like how many people voted in total in each country, and how much did everyone get. We don't see what's the difference between 12 and 10 points in each country. Is it a landslide or is it down to 2 people not having their phones charged and just missed the voting window.
It would also be interesting to see how many people just watch without voting (like I do) as at times I have really troubles to understand what most people find "so appealing" in a song. Seeing that a vote costs 0.99 Cents + the cost of the SMS i.e. which varies from like 20 Cents in Germany to 1 € 19 Cents in Romania, also means dedication to particular songs or artists which I for the most part am not willing to do as most of those songs will be forgotten rather quickly after ESC anyways.
personally I think yes. for example, the fact that back when Turkey was in the competition, Germany would consistently give them a high amount of televote points and there are a large amount of Turks there shows the diaspora was pretty damn powerful. Also I think if a diaspora community is big enough in X country, people who aren't in it may appreciate that culture a lot and the culture might be deep in society. This might not be a great example, but in the US we have many different diasporas from Latin America and many of their foods, music, the Spanish language, etc have become a huge part of American culture. Thus it's not impossible for let's say Polish culture to become a big part of British culture because of the diaspora having large numbers.
as someone from Switzerland, I can only say that most people here (with no immediate foreign background) really do not care about Eurovision and definitely wouldn't pay to vote; meanwhile, people with foreign backgrounds tend to be more invested in the show and want to show support to their home countries, thus actually voting - that is extremely obvious at least in our case (I don't mind it at all!)
I would be interested how the rest of the world voted, now there are able to. Is there any statistics about that?
In Greece the general consensus is that our jurors were butthurt so we tried to bring Cyprus down with us 😂 if this was just the year we decided to be objective it was a poor choice because it cost Andrew the top 10! Happy Vesna made it though
17:11 Slovenia got points from Finland because of Bojan -Käärijã bromance
I think UK will be the next powerhouse country of Eurovision Song Contest in this decade just like Ireland and Sweden
Are you going to send Ed Sheeran, Adele or one of your other countless #1 super stars for once? I also wouldn't mind an other Sam Ryder song as well, TBH.
Interesting to see this on maps
Another great job, young man 😎
My conclusion after this video is that only European immigrants watch Eurovision in UK and Ireland and I think they should embrace this and send a "Balkan ballad" or a turbofolk banger next year 😂
Apart from this, I think Croatian points from GER and AUT were not just diaspora votes, but that indigenous peoples liked the song as well.
Finally, Finnish televote is the best - all bands got decent points and no Loreen 😂😂😂
As a Viennese I can say I didn't like the song at all, but the performance was so ESC that it also was funny again. But we do have a lot of Croates, Serbes, Bosnic and Slovenes living here which for sure understand the lyrics and probably supported it. If Austria has some form of block-voting going on that its most likely for former Yugoslavian countries as we have some people here that found a new home during the civil war years. Only if Germany has a really good song than we might grant them 4-6 points. It's like not swearing about their song has to be compliment enough ;)
@@Kessra Well, I guess that Let 3 wasn't avantgarde and outrageous enough for a Viennese 🤭😉
Re: Ukrainian Jury. Last year they didn’t give any points to Poland and that caused a bit of a controversy online. And that song was good vocally and in general a typical song jury could appreciate (except for the special effects ). So not that many excuses.
I don’t know if they actually liked Solo or not this year, but I can see them planning to give it some points anyway, in order to avoid this situation again.
Just to add another dimension to the discussion - song language versus geography - on 12 May "The Economist" published some analysis of Eurovision songs from 1999 onwards showing that, on average, songs in languages other than English receive 7% fewer points than those in English. However, performers who mix English lyrics with another language receive 3% more votes than those who sing in English alone.
10:45 Aussie here, I can't say for rest of us but "Who the hell is Edgar" is a pretty good banger. We do enjoy a classic case of tongue-in-cheek humour and I was torn between voting for Croatia or Austria.
I agree that Austria as the opening act seriously hurt their chances.
My personal choice (in order of preference): Austria, Finland, Croatia, Czechia, Belgium, France.
love your videos but can you pleassseeeee focus the camera on you rather than the mic. I have to constantly check if the video quality is set to the highest 😅😅 Unless you want to be out of focus, that’s fine ))
Ooh am I? I can't see the difference 😂. The camera is set to not focus on anything because otherwise it always goes in an out of focus.
@@eurovisionhistories the camera loves that contrasting mic though
I'm so angry that Italy's jury and televote gave Spain 0 votes. And our 12 points to Moldova and Israel completely baffles me.
In 2022 Italy gave 0 points to Chanel, in 2023 Italy gave 12 points to Noa. What hapens with italian juries ?
@@nazar2626 I have no idea. We should be appreciating Spanish cultural heritage. I'm referring to Blanca Paloma, not a fan of Chanel
@@nazar2626in 2022 they were a bunch of old musically inclined people, but you can't get old people horny and in Italy we can't give more than 2 shits about fancy dancy routines
This year I believe they got the horny deaf people out so Israel got enough points to be just 1 point ahead of Italy and we literally robbed ourselves of the podium
7:06 subpar vocals and being comapred to Blanka?
I mean yea sure he had some backing vocals, especially on the semi, but I haven't heard any man hitting such notes in a very long time
Cyprus abused the backing vocals. It was obvious he didn't sing the high notes
What is the jury composition of the ROTW juries ? What countries are they from ? Does anybody know ?
Can you explain how this analysis works because I'm from Sweden and I voted for Slovenien
Will you analyze the votes in the semifinals?
Have thought about it
Didn't get Lithuania entry at all. The juries overating simple ballads like that over more intersting entries
Do you think the juries new the results of the semis so they would give Loreen all the 12 points she needed to secure the win?
@@Tukemuth you're making a fool of yourself.
How would all juries accross the continent know what hasn't been released to anybody? The jurors are just some guys, not some sort of powerful network of supervillains. They're obviously faulty and stress some factors more than others when they're supposed to judge multiple aspects. But they are just some people. It doesn't need to be a major conspiracy for it to be worthy of criticism. This paranoia helps absolutely nobody.
I am wierded by finnish jury, no points to estonia?? Or australia :o
It's a shame. From all the criticism for the juries, sleeping on Estonia bothers me quite alot. Based on stats from the years after separate jury points, Estonia never gets points from the finnish jury in grand final, but tends to get moderate to high points from the public.
I wasn't super impressed with the french performance, but it is on my playlist (probably top 5), so as a Norwegian, I'm not surprised it did well in Scandinavia.
Can you think of any system that would make the running order less impactful? I think it's such a shame about Austria and Portugal... and as it's partially assembled by the producers now, it can't even be seen as random (bad) luck of the draw ..
Maybe have them draw quarters rather than halfs?
There were a few years (about 10 or 15 years ago I think) when the phonelines were open throughout the whole show. Not sure what effect that was found to have or why they stopped it again.
It would be interesting to know how much of the audience changes over between the first song and the start of the voting. Certainly not everyone watches the whole show end-to-end, and I suspect a very significant proportion of people who watch the early performances have already tuned out by the time the phonelines open (and perhaps especially so in the east, where the phonelines don't open until well after midnight local time)
Loreen is the first woman who won Eurovision Song Contest twice with Sweden. Sweden beats the record of Ireland and their the 2nd country who won Eurovision Song Contest most with Ireland
Which record did Sweden break? It still has to win 3 times in a row or 4 times in 5 years, but let's hope ESC has a bit more variation to offer. And you forgot to mention that it is next to Ukraine the only country to win the contest three times in this century so far.
Sweden also won 3 timed as Ukraine
I always fail to understand why people use the word neighbours when talking about Slovenia and Serbia. Same for Estonia and Lithuania.
Yeah should have said bloc voting but anyway I was trying to disprove it
@@eurovisionhistories Lithuania and Estonia supported each other maybe in 2000`s and a little bit later. But now I don`t see that. Estonia is more concentrated to Finland, Scandinavian countries. For Lithuania those countries are: Latvia, Ukraine, and I would say Poland, Georgia.
As a Lithuanian, even though us and Estonia don't share a border, the bond between us is as if we were. Us Baltics are all brother nations even if it's closer with Latvia in many ways. Though it feels like they're trying to befriend Finland more, recently
UK takes Eurovision Song Contest very seriously since last year
I think UK will be the next powerhouse country of Eurovision Song Contest after Ireland and Sweden
Did you see their stage this year?
It was great no?
@@eurovisionhistories slightly better than the one they had in 2015 . I mean, maybe im in minority to say that UK really tried their absolute best this year to embarrass themselves (again). I love the song, i love Mae, she is so funny but UK has really, not been competitive at all this year. They deserved the last place so much more than Germany:(
Ah you mean her staging. I think it was the best thing about that performance TBH 😂
7:03 😯 Andrew Lambrou found dead in a ditch
6:00 This sympathy goes from soviet period. We were and we are so different but the sympathy remains.
Song in an own language obviously attracts votes from similar speaking languages countries but do the opposite for all others, only song like cha cha cha this year can beat that
Looking at my country Italy the televote gave 12 to Moldova we often vote them as the language is latin base and has some similarities to Italian and the ethnic sound reminds a bit of Italian folk in some regions. Jury gave Israel 12 points which was not strategic because they beat us for third place by exactly 12 points 🤣🤣🤣 So Italian jury didn't favour itself. Televote gave 10 points to Norway because Alessandra was born in Italy in fact the Rai presenter was saying that every five minutes 😂😂😂
Dude, that's because of the huge Romanian/ Moldovan diaspora in Italy 😅
@@Lilla88able also
Joker Out being stars in ex Yugoslavia countries is false. Before Eurovision nobody in Croatia knew about them. Only after they were chosen and Croats looked at the song it was loved.
So were they known more than other acts in the final? (Maybe stars is a bit strong a word)
@@eurovisionhistories The conclusion is that only Eurovision fans love it and they maybe shared it a bit. But yes, it was the most known song in Croatia with Cha cha cha.
Band was not a thing on their own. I hope they become more known.
Thanks for clearing that up
In general in Croatia people would always listen to Slovenian, Serbian, Italian etc. entry as soon as these are chosen. Not just Eurovision fans but also media would promote those. Just like, for instance, Slovenian TV had a long interview with Let 3 just a few days after they won Dora. In short, Croatians are always more familiar with songs from their neighbourhood, and in the case of Slovenia, although languages are pretty different, some parts of Croatia can understand Slovenian enough to get the meaning of the song
France don't take Eurovision Song Contest seriously
At least they are more successful than Germany, England and Spain which more or less took it serious this time
This would be the voting would have looked like if it was still a combined score like in 2015:
🇵🇱Poland: 🇺🇦
🇺🇦 Ukraine: 🇮🇹🇨🇿
🇸🇪 Sweden: 🇱🇻🇲🇩🇧🇪🇨🇾🇪🇸🇦🇱
🇫🇮 Finland: 🇳🇱🇮🇪🇦🇹🇪🇪🇮🇸🇳🇴🇦🇺🇩🇰🇮🇱🇸🇪
🇮🇹 Italy: 🇲🇹🇸🇲🇩🇪🇭🇷🇨🇭🇸🇮
🇮🇱 Israel - 🇦🇿🇫🇷🇦🇲🇵🇱
🇨🇿 Czechia - 🇫🇮
🇪🇸 Spain- 🇵🇹
🇲🇩 Moldova - 🇷🇴
🇸🇮 Slovenia - 🇷🇸
🇦🇲 Armenia - 🇬🇪
🇨🇾 Cyprus - 🇬🇷
🇱🇹 Lithuania - 🇬🇧
______________________________
🇺🇦 Ukraine - 8🇱🇹 10🇸🇪 12🇵🇱
🇮🇹 Italy - 8🇲🇩 10🇮🇱 12🇺🇦
🇱🇻 Latvia - 8🇱🇹 10🇪🇪 12🇸🇪
🇳🇱 Netherlands - 8🇧🇪 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇲🇹 Malta - 8🇫🇮 10🇸🇪 12🇮🇹
🇲🇩 Moldova- 8🇮🇹 10🇺🇦 12🇸🇪
🇮🇪 Ireland - 8🇧🇪 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇸🇲 San Marino- 8🇸🇪 10🇫🇮 12🇮🇹
🇦🇿 Azerbaijan - 8🇫🇮 10🇸🇪 12🇮🇱
🇦🇹 Austria - 8🇸🇪 10🇮🇹 12🇫🇮
🇫🇷 France - 8🇫🇮 10🇦🇲 12🇮🇱
🇫🇮 Finland - 8🇸🇪 10🇳🇴 12🇨🇿
🇧🇪 Belgium - 8🇮🇱 10🇫🇮 12🇸🇪
🇩🇪 Germany - 8🇫🇮 10🇸🇪 12🇮🇹
🇵🇹 Portugal - 8🇸🇪 10🇺🇦 12🇪🇸
🇭🇷 Croatia - 8🇫🇮 10🇸🇮 12🇮🇹
🇪🇪 Estonia - 8🇺🇦 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇦🇲 Armenia - 8🇸🇪 10🇫🇷 12🇮🇱
🇵🇱 Poland - 8🇨🇾 10🇸🇪 12🇮🇱
🇷🇴 Romania - 8🇸🇪 10🇮🇹 12🇲🇩
🇮🇸 Iceland - 8🇦🇺 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇷🇸 Serbia - 8🇭🇷 10🇫🇮 12🇸🇮
🇨🇾 Cyprus - 8🇮🇹 10🇮🇱 12🇸🇪
🇳🇴 Norway - 8🇮🇹 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇨🇭 Switzerland - 8🇨🇿 10🇦🇱 12🇮🇹
🇦🇺 Australia - 8🇧🇪 10🇸🇪 12🇫🇮
🇩🇰 Denmark -8🇸🇪 10🇳🇴 12🇫🇮
🇪🇸 Spain - 8🇮🇱 10🇮🇹 12🇸🇪
🇮🇱 Israel - 8🇸🇪 10🇳🇴 12🇫🇮
🇸🇪 Sweden - 8🇨🇭 10🇳🇴 12🇫🇮
🇬🇪 Georgia - 8🇮🇹 10🇮🇱 12🇦🇲
🇨🇿 Czechia - 8🇫🇮 10🇸🇪 12🇺🇦
🇸🇮 Slovenia - 8🇸🇪 10🇭🇷 12🇮🇹
🇬🇷 Greece - 8🇸🇪 10🇮🇱 12🇨🇾
🇦🇱 Albania - 8🇮🇱 10🇮🇹 12🇸🇪
🇱🇹 Lithuania - 8🇮🇱 10🇫🇮 12🇸🇪
🇬🇧 United Kingdom - 8🇧🇪 10🇸🇪 12🇱🇹
Belgium (and overall most of this video tbh, but Belgium is downright shocking) is a reminder to those that want only televote that juries are indeed more than needed.
You're only mad that Finland didn't win, but you forgot to care about every single other countrie's result. Y'all would've murdered Spain (which, admittedly, I would've also done, I legit am annoyed by every second of that song and I find it hard to listen to for more than 30 seconds).
Congratulations to Sweden and Loreen what a beautiful song
albania got 6 from the rotw. thats wrong on the map
Man the people who want to abolish juries really picked the worst year to do so because some of these televotes are ridiculous. Poland and Croatia in the top 10, Spain the worst song in the final, Finland tactical voting against Sweden and the Belgium televotes is pretty much a map of how liberal/conservative Europe is.
Just noticed your map includes Crimea as part of Ukraine. Beware of Russians bearing gifts my friend 😂
According to international law it is Ukraine so...
Finland giving Germany and Croatia 4 points in the televotes and 0 to Sweden is exactly why we need the Jury since they have no musical taste whatsoever lol.
Now a question I have. Why do jury votes are assigned after tele vote is closed. It is really easy to set the winner once you know tele votes... I will call it profit contracts. I am just sad that Let 3 didn't do helicopter d!cks on finals.
The juries vote on Friday night. The jury votes are set before the Grand Final begins, which is why they can be revealed right away after voting closes
Croatia saved the producers' asses this year. The second half paled in comparison to the first and having that burst of life before the end was so important. They should have put them last or at least Moldova, but instead they shot themselves in the foot with Mae 🫠