As many others I also have an love and hate relationship to my Z10. Because of my background as an former promotorcycle rider and mechanic I've been focusing on to get Z10 more comfy for my riding, 30-55km/h daily and 1-2 hour trips. An big change was calibration and testing different pedal angles, have now more dip angle, and I don't need to push it anymore for speed and no more sore legs and foots. And of course an MRN76 mod helped also alot. I propably gonna keep on upgrading and modify this wheel, just love it😍
You're absolutely right - this wheel is loved and hated intermittently. It's like the Mten3 but the M3 lets you control the Z10 controls you at the beginning, when you are learning. I know the Z10 because they lent it to me to test it. It has become a challenge, but I fear that it will be a challenge that could cost me dearly because I weigh 54 kilos and I am 57 years old OMG !! what am I doing?? That you will say. And you are right. I see it written and I see clearly that this wheel is not for me. My waist is screaming "NO MORE" So I give up buying this Z10 that one day I love and the next I hate. I want to have it, as a museum piece (like Mten3) but it is a danger because I see it leaning on the wall, it talks to me and tells me take me. hahaha He doesn't leave me alone. I must get her out of my house. Excuse me for extending myself so long, but the Z10 deserves it ... it gives a lot to talk about Te mando un abrazo desde Medellin Colombia GRACIAS!!
Hi there really love it to hear from you.. The z10 is special in a time that i felt lonely and tired of my life the z10 could make me cry and made me feel alive
Another Z10 fanboy made happy! Not sure I’d agree about it wrecking my knees and lower back... I think if you move with it properly, your whole body aligns comfortably and you don’t stress out individual areas. At least I don’t seem to. This is the charm of it being a ‘physical’ ride... you are kinda MEANT to throw superhero shapes rather than standing like a sentry on duty. I ride mine every day. It is my only regular ride and in spite of being tempted by others, I’m married to this one and only it’s demise would separate me from it!
During the time that you only have a z10 you don't see this but when you move to something else you understand how much comfort you've been denying to your body. Love my z10 for a reason is the wheel that have more kilometers (more than 4000km) and I get it the say of riding. For a reason i reach 47.5kph on mine ;) big hugs and once again is a pleasure to see you in the comments
Agree with Matt. No issues with my body so far after 9k km at 3.0+ bar tyre pressure. And that is what one should pump in order to unleash the full potential of the wheel... I believe that the other remark depends on the personal preferences. As comfort is not my priority, I’d not give the unique features of z10 to a slightly higher comfort of a softer wheel. You don’t buy a sport car if you want to have a comfortable ride. I’ll follow your advice and won’t change my z10 for some more time to avoid issues with lower back and knees😄 hopefully there will be a few decent, problem-free wheels on the market then. I reckon that upgrading the battery to 1800wh will help me to survive till this time))
Like you know I still have my Z10 but when you ride and have the chance to test and have so many wheels you start to appreciate what other wheels give you. I used to love my msp.. Now I hate it after riding with ex and exn. Per example im now riding with the v12.. You need to accept that things evolve .. Its a funny wheel but is that.. No longer a wheel that can compete against more recent wheels. Continue to be my favourite in snow.. Or for rain it works really well but to many things missing makes me look to it as a classic wheel
@@MADpack I tested many wheels during the group rides, also for extended distance. But probably testing is not the same as owning. Will wait for the next reliable model on the market
Still holding on to my beloved NB One E+ all these years later. Despite not riding it, I couldn't bear to get rid of the one that started it all for me. 🥰
Ninebot Z10 A classic that if you don't have, you are missing the fun.... Getting this one today as a daily driver I don't think is worth but please beware that is supported in Europe via Ninebot Romania. Currently, on the market, you can find only one wheel that is coming close to the Z10 built and safety quality and that is V11.
Yes and on the snow with stock tire was the best for me and there is a video on the channel of me riding off road the z10 that is the range test.. Search for it
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo. Je suis super content d’avoir ma Z10, qu’elle machine fantastique !!! La mienne est tombée dans l’eau complètement mais après réparation personnelle tout va bien. Je l’ai réparé tout seul car le service après vente Ninebot est tout simplement inexistant. Pas grave, il y a tous les conseils sur internet. Le prix de la Z10 reste cheap par rapport aux autres ce qui est un argument de vente (aujourd’hui x2 ou 2.5 pour un dernier modèle de roue d’autres marques haut de gamme). Le prix des pièces détachées reste abordable toujours en comparant avec d’autres modèles d’autres marques concurrentes. Même si cette roue reste critiquée, elle questionnera toujours ceux qui n’en n’ont pas. Les propriétaires seuls apprécieront sa glisse et ses sensations exceptionnelles. Je resterai longtemps encore avec ma z10. Hervé
Néanmoins, il faut penser tout de même que la Z 10 commence à vieillir. Elle n’a pas à rougir car elle était très en avance sur son temps. Les nouvelles options proposées sur les nouveaux modèles sont très intéressant et très cher pour les finances. La One z10 propose l’essentiel et c’est déjà bien en 2021.
Nos roues électrique sont en constante évolution technologique et malheureusement les prix en constante augmentation. Pour l’instant, et pour populariser la roue électrique dans le monde pour tous, (enfin) il n’existe pas encore de constructeur de marque Low-cost qui permettrait à beaucoup de monde de posséder enfin une Wheel à travers le monde.
@@MADpack Bien sûr cela est une utopie, les Français adore cela. Néanmoins, la communauté des Wheeler grossie doucement. Pour internationaliser la pratique de la roue électrique, il faut que la production augmente et que les prix chutent . Pour l’instant la production industrielle est faible et les prix excessivement cher. Nous en sommes qu’au début, et déjà beaucoup de choses ont été faites en l’espace de 10 ans à peu près.
@@MADpack thanks. I will look at gotway models then. I ride a bike daily but wheel looks super interesting... I might need to loose some weight... But that's why I i Ride a bike haha
@@MADpack my exn just came in, I'm not good with the tools like you, so my handy man is coming over tomorrow to put the honeycomb pedals, leg pads and the mud guard tomorrow to get it ready to go. But it's so cold up here in Boston right now it's like -11c that I'm waiting for better weather to enjoy it.
Since this tire is tubeless, is it possible to use plugs aka "bacon strips" for flat tire repair? I've seen videos on changing tires on these wheels and I'm trying to avoid the disassembly nightmare. Thanks for any advice 🙏🏻
Is a short call. Around 1000 I use my v8f you have now the v8f with a bigger battery but is limited if you are a big guy is almost impossible that I recommend you something around does values
@@MADpack V8F goes for around $1200 here in the states. I never owned a EUC before so I don't want to spend TOO much money in fear of not using it and it collecting dust. Thanks so much for your input. I will consider the v8F
Is a good wheel to start you can buy the cover to protect is super light so easier to start and even when you want something bigger you can continue to use it like me is my wheel for the last mile
O que achas deste modelo agora? Estou prestes a comprar está na faixa dos 1000 novo e será o meu primeiro achas que sera uma boa compra? Bons vídeos abraço
I don’t think so bro because last time I have review I have already said that I didn’t recommend anymore so for me it makes no sense because the message will be the same bro
...so attractive......so special....so rare.....Z10 cannot be replaced by any other modern wheels.......it has this 'little thing' other wheels do not have......even if those other wheels are more powerfull with better tech :-)
@@MADpack you are correct, sorta, if....I will repair it myself if needed. I have 3 other ninebot mini pro and s Plus and never had an issue that I can't remedy. I ride sensibly and take care of my toys. I just bought my Z10 on eBay and got a 2 year squaretrade warranty for 69.00. if it breaks down they pay me all of my money back. There is always a way to make things work out and yes it's a risk in many ways but to each his own. Thanks for the videos man, I enjoy your channel. Have fun !
We are getting old..for me suspension makes a lot of difference and almost essencial or have to come with a more bouncy tire to reduce stress on the knees
@@MADpack what do you about comparisson with Gotway MsuperX ? How is NB Z6 - noticable cheaper but slower, which seems like positive thing. Do you remember how much Z10 costed 4 years ago? Did price drop?
As many others I also have an love and hate relationship to my Z10.
Because of my background as an former promotorcycle rider and mechanic I've been focusing on to get Z10 more comfy for my riding, 30-55km/h daily and 1-2 hour trips.
An big change was calibration and testing different pedal angles, have now more dip angle, and I don't need to push it anymore for speed and no more sore legs and foots.
And of course an MRN76 mod helped also alot.
I propably gonna keep on upgrading and modify this wheel, just love it😍
Thank you so much for your feedback my friend. Big hug
@@MADpack ❤️
You're absolutely right - this wheel is loved and hated intermittently. It's like the Mten3 but the M3 lets you control the Z10 controls you at the beginning, when you are learning. I know the Z10 because they lent it to me to test it. It has become a challenge, but I fear that it will be a challenge that could cost me dearly because I weigh 54 kilos and I am 57 years old OMG !! what am I doing?? That you will say. And you are right. I see it written and I see clearly that this wheel is not for me. My waist is screaming "NO MORE" So I give up buying this Z10 that one day I love and the next I hate. I want to have it, as a museum piece (like Mten3) but it is a danger because I see it leaning on the wall, it talks to me and tells me take me. hahaha He doesn't leave me alone. I must get her out of my house. Excuse me for extending myself so long, but the Z10 deserves it ... it gives a lot to talk about Te mando un abrazo desde Medellin Colombia GRACIAS!!
Hi there really love it to hear from you.. The z10 is special in a time that i felt lonely and tired of my life the z10 could make me cry and made me feel alive
Another Z10 fanboy made happy! Not sure I’d agree about it wrecking my knees and lower back... I think if you move with it properly, your whole body aligns comfortably and you don’t stress out individual areas. At least I don’t seem to. This is the charm of it being a ‘physical’ ride... you are kinda MEANT to throw superhero shapes rather than standing like a sentry on duty. I ride mine every day. It is my only regular ride and in spite of being tempted by others, I’m married to this one and only it’s demise would separate me from it!
During the time that you only have a z10 you don't see this but when you move to something else you understand how much comfort you've been denying to your body. Love my z10 for a reason is the wheel that have more kilometers (more than 4000km) and I get it the say of riding. For a reason i reach 47.5kph on mine ;) big hugs and once again is a pleasure to see you in the comments
Agree with Matt. No issues with my body so far after 9k km at 3.0+ bar tyre pressure. And that is what one should pump in order to unleash the full potential of the wheel...
I believe that the other remark depends on the personal preferences. As comfort is not my priority, I’d not give the unique features of z10 to a slightly higher comfort of a softer wheel. You don’t buy a sport car if you want to have a comfortable ride. I’ll follow your advice and won’t change my z10 for some more time to avoid issues with lower back and knees😄 hopefully there will be a few decent, problem-free wheels on the market then. I reckon that upgrading the battery to 1800wh will help me to survive till this time))
Like you know I still have my Z10 but when you ride and have the chance to test and have so many wheels you start to appreciate what other wheels give you. I used to love my msp.. Now I hate it after riding with ex and exn. Per example im now riding with the v12.. You need to accept that things evolve .. Its a funny wheel but is that.. No longer a wheel that can compete against more recent wheels. Continue to be my favourite in snow.. Or for rain it works really well but to many things missing makes me look to it as a classic wheel
@@MADpack I tested many wheels during the group rides, also for extended distance. But probably testing is not the same as owning. Will wait for the next reliable model on the market
Per example i didnt like the ex in the begining after when more miles i put it more i wanted
Still holding on to my beloved NB One E+ all these years later. Despite not riding it, I couldn't bear to get rid of the one that started it all for me. 🥰
Is like me with the z10.. My second wheel the ks 16x i sold already but the z10 brings a lot of memories making me not thinking racionaly
Great video and also love this wheel it definitely helped to put the EUC on the map
Definitely bro a very important wherl for all of us
😂😂😂 just realized I rode it backwards for more than 1 hour. I'm lovin it
Lolololol why was that?!
I just saw the video and saw that the red light was on the back and I had it in the front 🤣🤣
@amloviumexico lol ok where are you from new EUC rider :) ?
I live in Los Angeles, I had the segway ninebot "2 wheeler" but the Z10 requires full balance. I'm loving it.
@amloviumexico I can’t wait to get the 3 new eucs from inmotion
Still the most beautiful EUC out there!
Is still one of the most beautiful yes. My fabourite in look is the v11 with full extras
Ninebot Z10
A classic that if you don't have, you are missing the fun....
Getting this one today as a daily driver I don't think is worth but please beware that is supported in Europe via Ninebot Romania.
Currently, on the market, you can find only one wheel that is coming close to the Z10 built and safety quality and that is V11.
Agree in what you are saying but no I will not put my money on segway anymore..
That comment didn't age well. The V11 has been a disaster for safety and reliability.
I think the z10 is way ahead of our time , just no suspension, this wheel is still a mighty good wheel that a lot can’t match.
Still one of the best waterproofing wheels until today..
Thank you for your honesty..
Always my friend ;)
Hell yes it’s worth it. Still my favorite wheel
Which wheels have you try until today?
@@MADpack KS 16x, KS S18, Nikola, V11. I'm interested to try the V12 and Sherman.
Loved to rode the v12 and sherman.. Waiting to get my hands on my v12 but is stopped on the boart for 1 month
Have you ever taken it offroad? Curious about how it performs.
Yes and on the snow with stock tire was the best for me and there is a video on the channel of me riding off road the z10 that is the range test.. Search for it
Thanks for your honesty
Not a problem that's my biggest rule to maintain the channel
Absolutely 💯 still one of the best
Is still a tank :)
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo.
Je suis super content d’avoir ma Z10, qu’elle machine fantastique !!!
La mienne est tombée dans l’eau complètement mais après réparation personnelle tout va bien. Je l’ai réparé tout seul car le service après vente Ninebot est tout simplement inexistant. Pas grave, il y a tous les conseils sur internet.
Le prix de la Z10 reste cheap par rapport aux autres ce qui est un argument de vente (aujourd’hui x2 ou 2.5 pour un dernier modèle de roue d’autres marques haut de gamme). Le prix des pièces détachées reste abordable toujours en comparant avec d’autres modèles d’autres marques concurrentes.
Même si cette roue reste critiquée, elle questionnera toujours ceux qui n’en n’ont pas. Les propriétaires seuls apprécieront sa glisse et ses sensations exceptionnelles.
Je resterai longtemps encore avec ma z10.
Hervé
Thank you so much for your comment and yes the price of the z10 continue to be very attractive the biggest issue is to swap a morher
Néanmoins, il faut penser tout de même que la Z 10 commence à vieillir. Elle n’a pas à rougir car elle était très en avance sur son temps. Les nouvelles options proposées sur les nouveaux modèles sont très intéressant et très cher pour les finances. La One z10 propose l’essentiel et c’est déjà bien en 2021.
Nos roues électrique sont en constante évolution technologique et malheureusement les prix en constante augmentation.
Pour l’instant, et pour populariser la roue électrique dans le monde pour tous, (enfin) il n’existe pas encore de constructeur de marque Low-cost qui permettrait à beaucoup de monde de posséder enfin une Wheel à travers le monde.
That will never happen bro
@@MADpack Bien sûr cela est une utopie, les Français adore cela.
Néanmoins, la communauté des Wheeler grossie doucement. Pour internationaliser la pratique de la roue électrique, il faut que la production augmente et que les prix chutent . Pour l’instant la production industrielle est faible et les prix excessivement cher.
Nous en sommes qu’au début, et déjà beaucoup de choses ont été faites en l’espace de 10 ans à peu près.
I put a pebble watch on my Z10 it has a screen... Now it runs the wheel log :)
Thats great pebble are gone
Found one on Facebook marketplace almost new for $600 in usa. Worth buying?
I think this video answer already to that question I would take the time to put more money aside
Am am tall and big and this is the only wheel with rated load of 150kg. I am not over 120 so there is no other choice?
Gotway wheels bro best option for now
@@MADpack thanks. I will look at gotway models then. I ride a bike daily but wheel looks super interesting... I might need to loose some weight... But that's why I i
Ride a bike haha
Check my latestest videos of the ex and exn
nice video bro, keep the EUC content coming!
I try but maybe shifting sometimes
@@MADpack my exn just came in, I'm not good with the tools like you, so my handy man is coming over tomorrow to put the honeycomb pedals, leg pads and the mud guard tomorrow to get it ready to go. But it's so cold up here in Boston right now it's like -11c that I'm waiting for better weather to enjoy it.
I ride even with negative temperatures.. I use a jacket with heating in the back and neck helps a lot
i have owned 2 and they can be bought around 500$ worth it i just bought one with a dent for $300
Since this tire is tubeless, is it possible to use plugs aka "bacon strips" for flat tire repair?
I've seen videos on changing tires on these wheels and I'm trying to avoid the disassembly nightmare.
Thanks for any advice 🙏🏻
I really dont know what is the back strips bro
@@MADpack
you stick them inside the damage puncture and it permanently vulcanizes to the tire to avoid replacing the whole tire
Never tried bro
@@MADpack okay thanks 😊
It should work.
Can someone please give me advice on what is the best EUC to get for around $1000 in USA?
Is a short call. Around 1000 I use my v8f you have now the v8f with a bigger battery but is limited if you are a big guy is almost impossible that I recommend you something around does values
@@MADpack V8F goes for around $1200 here in the states. I never owned a EUC before so I don't want to spend TOO much money in fear of not using it and it collecting dust. Thanks so much for your input. I will consider the v8F
Is a good wheel to start you can buy the cover to protect is super light so easier to start and even when you want something bigger you can continue to use it like me is my wheel for the last mile
Can you recommend a powerful one for heavier users 18 stone in weight(250 pounds)
Depends whatbyou want
O que achas deste modelo agora? Estou prestes a comprar está na faixa dos 1000 novo e será o meu primeiro achas que sera uma boa compra? Bons vídeos abraço
Boas mano gostei mt desta roda mas já não a comprava
@@MADpack a dificuldade é arranjar algo por 1000 euros com a qualidade desta
Percebo te o problema é se tens problemas com a roda e um filme do caraças
@@MADpack pois não dão muitos problemas mas pode acontecer percebo
Até que dão problemas mano e não é fácil de resolver até trocar uma motherboard e mm complicado
How do you stop?
With your weight you accelerate putting more weight on the front and you break putting more weight on the bacj
Any rumors about new ninebot euc? z12, z15, z20?
They are out of the game completely. They are not producing anything
Do you have a gocart because then do a 2023 review
No I don’t have bro
@@MADpack ok then do any 2023 review of any Segway
I don’t think so bro because last time I have review I have already said that I didn’t recommend anymore so for me it makes no sense because the message will be the same bro
Should others add a 4inch wide euc on the market?
I dont think we need
Another z10 review..what's up with you guys?! 🥀 Spring time💐
Is the summer coming and also no new wheels coming out at least next months.. About new v12 not allowed to talk for now
Could you tell me where I can buy it?
On haliexpress but you shouldnt
Hopefully you can get your hands on the v12 😉
I have it already
@@MADpack oh man can't wait for the video!!
Still dont know when inmotion allow the release.
Do you also wear protective shoes?
Yes i use bro
@@MADpack Which ohne do you wear?
Some boots from alpinestars but i have explain in a video where i share all my gear why is not the best
...so attractive......so special....so rare.....Z10 cannot be replaced by any other modern wheels.......it has this 'little thing' other wheels do not have......even if those other wheels are more powerfull with better tech :-)
yeah the Z10 will always be special to ride but is not a wheel for an everyday use. Still the wheel I trust the most in snow
@@MADpack what is your current everyday-wheel you like the most ?
Mine the v11, but in love with ex and exn simply amazing wheels. And also testing the new v12 at the moment
Just bought a 2021 model.
Are you enjoying it
Oh the Wheeling is hard to drive on street
Wheeling?!
are they still making it ??
Nooe kevin
Many of them on eBay.
With zero support for after sale and if your motherboard gets damaged good luck to repair
@@MADpack you are correct, sorta, if....I will repair it myself if needed. I have 3 other ninebot mini pro and s Plus and never had an issue that I can't remedy. I ride sensibly and take care of my toys. I just bought my Z10 on eBay and got a 2 year squaretrade warranty for 69.00. if it breaks down they pay me all of my money back. There is always a way to make things work out and yes it's a risk in many ways but to each his own. Thanks for the videos man, I enjoy your channel. Have fun !
Waiting for the v12 review...
You will have to wait more because inmotion didnt said anything about which time we can talk about it
@@MADpack okay wil do... Thanks... Actually i do like z10 too but ninebot stop making z10... Its a unique euc w/ unique riding style...
Definitley a wheel that really makes you feel it in the end of the ride. For that reason and rvolution of eucs I will not purchase this one anymore
Waiting for exn review
Is out already bro
czcams.com/video/TSx9eSbUCd0/video.html
@@MADpack sorry bro I thought I was on WrongWay channel :D
Ahahah thats ok adam is a good friend of mine ;) big hug bro
one thing: customer service
One thing what sorry?
I like to have one but it cost too much for an out dated unicycle
So you buy a new electric unicycle :)
ahahah, we are getting old my friend !!
We are getting old..for me suspension makes a lot of difference and almost essencial or have to come with a more bouncy tire to reduce stress on the knees
To reduce stress on the knees with Z10, 26psi tire pression (instead of 32) does absorb impacts not too bad.
Hi bro.. The psi doesn't make miracles ... We need to accept that confort is not a pro of the z10
too bad, wanted it to be a good deal on aliexpress because this is what it seems like
Hope that i saved you some money
@@MADpack what do you about comparisson with Gotway MsuperX ? How is NB Z6 - noticable cheaper but slower, which seems like positive thing. Do you remember how much Z10 costed 4 years ago? Did price drop?
@@brunop.3142 hi there the price are very close to the same and msx and z10 are completely different wheels
@@MADpack not all of us can afford 2 or more different ewheels
I know that but didnt understand what is that related to my previous answer bro
I love mine. If this is too heavy you are weak!! Get in the gym and ride out!!!!!
Ahahah but people use to say it
More ex related videos man :)
Ahah not tired?
Дичь впаривает! В 2021 такие мощности это четверть от актуальных!
Sorry i cant understand your message..
Перевод на русский не качественный.
English sorry..