Which is the Best Off-Road Jack? Floor, Farm, Bottle, Scissor, Badland, ProEagle, Pittsburgh
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- In this video we are discussing all the different types of vehicle jacks available and which ones are best for different uses. Most of these are modified with our products, which make them even more useful. Visit our website for more information. www.911motorsports.net
This article has a detailed summary of all these jack details and the pros/cons. www.911motorsports.net/Off-Ro...
0:00 Intro
1:20 Which is the best?
2:46 Bottle, scissor, farm jack details
6:56 Off-road Floor Jack details
10:58 Our competition, ProEagle, Badland
12:50 Wheel design, Tread or NO tread
15:14 Badland vehicle mounts
16:38 Carry handles
17:10 More mounts & ext. holder
18:15 Big wheel conversion kits
20:27 Jack extension details
22:09 Using LONG Extensions
24:48 Big Flat Plate
25:25 4 Point Jack Adapter - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Check out our website for more information www.911motorsports.net/Off-Road-Floor-Jack_c_25.html and we also complied this video into a blog post for quick reference on the specs and the pros/cons here www.911motorsports.net/Off-Road-Jack--Buyers-Guide_b_3.html
I can't believe you knocked the Badland jack. I'm a mechanic and engineer. The Badland is an excellent jack. I have a couple Pittsburgh jacks, including (2) three ton, one just like you show. They are NOT the same as the Badland. The Badland was machined to much tighter tolerances. It is one of the nicest Chinese products I've ever seen. Nobody should be complaining about high quality bearings either. You want the jack built for off road, sand, gravel, dirt, snow, etc, to roll freely. And you certainly want bearings over bushings, and steel over plastic. For the last 2 weeks, I was looking at your kits for 3 jacks I am modifying, I was on the fence, only because of time to build my own kits, but after seeing this video, I will take the time and build my own. I absolutely do not like your extensions either. The larger the diameter the tube, the stronger and less risky the jack will be. Your tubes are narrow and fit sloppily. Badland again, got it right. I just bought a second badland, too good to pass up. They are better than the $600 Pro Eagle as well, many videos on that. Also, the handle is easy to use and makes the jack easy to carry. I'm 64 and 72 pounds is still easy for me to move around. One last note, I don't believe the 3 ton front axle extensions are a good idea. I am using a 3/4 inch hardened solid piece axle to lift 3 tons, not a 3 piece axle made from "what", nobody is saying. But I can buy grade 8 axles that are certified to handle shear loads well beyond anything I will ask the jack to do and that axle will cost me $13. I know I sound harsh here, but someone misusing a jack or using one an engineer never thought about or saw can get hurt or killed pretty quick.
While the bearings seem nice they don't actually roll better when used offroad, due to the wheel design that digs into the ground, and once you jack a vehicle they don't roll at all. The treaded wheels are the main problem with maneuvering, like I said in the video. One of these days I'm hoping to do a video in the field showing this ... Onto our extensions, the tube diameter isn't the issue because these are taking a vertical load, plus they are DOM and can easily handle 20 tons of weight. Like I said in the video the base pin to the jack is the weak spot, which is only an issue if you are misusing them with our longest extensions. The Badland is a short extension (safer for the masses), so it can't even compare to our extensions. You are correct that misusing a jack can hurt or kill you, that's why we made this video to help explain that... Onto the carry handle, yes it works if you want to use one hand, however two hands are better than one... Finally onto the axle extensions, those have also been engineered and tested to handle over 6 tons on just the front axle and it only takes 1018 CR steel to achieve it. I thought we mentioned that on our site, but it's not there, I will make sure to add it. Have fun making your own kit, that should work plenty good too.
Awesome breakdown of the different options you offer. Thank you!
Love that clip. I have a 1.5 HF with your kit and use it all the time. Debeaded a tire in the snow a couple of weeks ago in my Jeep and you helped me get home.
That's great to hear! Snow can be a pain to work in, glad our jack was able to help you out.
Thank you for the informative video.
Everyone compares to the ProEagle, the ProEagle was designed, for California, Nevada, Arizonia - They are really built for Desert Racing and the Sand Dunes at Glamis and Dumont, The Badlands is super heavy, works good in the shop or in the Pits, the Badlands locking handle is a GAME-CHANGER so nice. on the Trophie Truck and the Prerunner the Bearings are also a GAME-CHANGER, the badlands is the only jack we can push sideways in the shop with one person, the bearings are super nice, For the Lower west coast states you really need a skit plate, Lover your smooth wheels, You guys are from Oregon, if you made a Glamis Jack it would be great, our Glamis Jack has NO wheel and is only a Full Skid-plate, is is super light and does not drop in the sand.
Buck up Buttercup!!!! Try out our Arcan or Husky conversion kit..FYI... we do have a greased, roller bearing option for our wheels, but don't announce it... I'd like to come out with our version of full Skid jacks, but we're working on [Tube Bending Jigs] this year... So, you're gonna have to wait for your desires.
I am really impressed with this i know its a simple video but this was really well done and super good info. Thank you so much for this!.
The Polly Saddle Idea is great. Though you could have gone with a head like the ones that come with the Jack Stands. You can also get Poly covers for them on the cheap and replace them as needed...
just bought the off road kit for my 1.5.
Salesman at heart ! Shooting down harbor freight Badlands !
Yup, called the excellent wheel bearings on the Badland wheels a gimmick (He "doesn't want it to roll off the table") , and extolled the virtues of the PLASTIC wheel bushings in his Arcan. Sure. His "review" screams, "I can't compete with the Badland jack,so I'm gonna nitpick it with nonsensical fake criticisms."
@@jeffro221 I was talking about the [wheel tread] being a gimmick 12:50.
Technically, I said the 45° thing was a gimmick, but meant both of them.
@@911Motorsports Actually that 45-degree lock is not a gimmick, it works really well as it allows you to tip the jack up on two wheels when jockeying under vehicles or going around corners. A fact that you very conveniently neglected to illustrate, instead opting for your "4-point turn".
A couple other clever features that make the Harbor Freight jack superior to your conversion is a full-length skid plate that won't collect sand on top of it and a nesting place for the extension inside the jack.
I do agree that the tread on the HF wheels is a poor design choice, ironically enough your own wheels could probably benefit from some tread pattern since they don't roll freely and might be prone to skid in snow or mud.
I expected this video to be biased to an extent, you're selling a product after all. But some of your criticisms seem downright desperate.
@@craZivn like I said in the video, the 45° thing is necessary because of the treaded wheels... Our wheels don't bite; and therefore slip, slide, and roll easier.... I do like the full length skid plate, but we make our stuff in [America] ... so, less is more... I've personally tested and use all of these jacks, that's why we created our conversion to be superior to anything coming from [Chyna].
Love my 911 Motorsports adapter kit for the 1.5 Pittsburgh I didn't buy the big wheel kit when I first bought the extension kit. But I have it now it makes it so much easier to roll around I also bought the adapter from you that you will onto the stock saddle from the Harbor Freight Jack I think I'm going to need one of those extension holders now I'm always looking for them somewhere
Glad you're liking all our cool tools! We've been wanting to make the extension holders for awhile, it is really nice to have them on the jack all ready to use.
I live in Oregon and I live close to 911 Motorsports. We have very sandy soil here in central Oregon and their off-road Jack conversion will be awesome! I think it would work pretty well in Glamis to by they way. Let’s not forget Oregon has dunes to.
We tested our jacks out in the "badlands" of Central Oregon, it's pretty easy to find lots of sand. The 8" wheels are the best choice for dunes like Florence and Glamis, but the 6" wheels work good in our mixed sandy loam soil.
If you made a Big Wheel Jack for the Shop with Large Wheels and rear goofy Casters that would be also something no one makes for moving buggys and trucks around,
Arcan jacks are way superb!
We've been abusing ours pretty hard and it's still holding up great!
Wondering if 2 ton would be enough for my 2021 Ford Bronco. Want to keep the weight down, but need something for mine with a 3" lift and 37" tires. I'm assuming 1.5 ton would be too small.
The 1.5 ton would work for one corner, but the 2 ton would be my choice. It is much stronger and would be able to lift a whole end too.
Notice he brought back there product after he realized he pushed it just as hard as the badland. Also if a 70lb jack is too heavy for you it’s time to man up and start hitting the weights.
You guys make a big wheel kit for the Daytona 4 Ton?
We don't make Big Wheel kits for any steel frame jacks, because of the cutting and welding required.... However, there's been a lot of requests, so a WIY kit could happen in the future.
My friend is a mobile mechanic & I want to surprise him one day with one of these but I'm torn between the Arcan & Pitsburg 2 & 3 ton options. I highly doubt he's ever lifting the full vehicle weight at once. Of course needs something light & big wheels will help a lot in the rocks & dirt some people have in their yards. I'm thinking a longer, lower frame is best so he can still get under cars. Being as light as possible still important though. What are your thoughts on which jack & wheel size?
The 1.5 ton is a great lightweight carry jack for smaller vehicles. For all around mechanic jobs a 3 ton is good. I like the Arcan cause it's my color, but the Husky 3 ton Aluminum/Steel from Home Depot is a great price at $160 right now. Both of those are Hybrid jacks 9:10 from the video. Here's a Husky link... www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-3-Ton-Aluminum-Steel-Car-Jack-HPL4751/315530068
@@911MotorsportsI like the HD jack but it's still too low. I need to lift at least 29". Can I use your accessories to modify this jack?
@@edfigMost 3 ton jacks lift to about 22" with just our Big Wheel and 4x4 saddle conversion. Our extensions can stack to get another 17", so you're looking at about 39" total height. It is important to keep in mind that you will need to be very careful when lifting with stacked extensions and only lift about 50% of the jacks rating. Sorry about the late reply, we've been very busy making more cool new tools.
Will your conversion kit fit the Daytona 1.5 ton aluminum race jack?
Yes, we have a specific kit for the aluminum Daytona jacks. It will NOT work on the Ultra Low 1.5 ton jack, but we have had some requests so it might be a future option. Here's a link for the regular Daytona 1.5 ton... www.911motorsports.net/Daytona_c_28.html
Big wheel kits for 4 ton jacks
We are getting close to offering a WIY kit for steel jacks, so 4 ton should be an option. These will require the casters and front of jack to be cut off, then new mount tabs and axles to be welded in place. It is a fairly simple job for anyone with basic fab skills... We also have a couple other new options in the works. Thanks for the comment, we've had a lot of requests for this and you just bumped it up the list a little more.
@@911Motorsports I own Disel pickups and 3tons don’t last long
@@911Motorsports and you caint find wheels to handle 4 tons , fabricating isn’t an issue
A jack all , and the smallest lightest hydrologic jack that will lift your rig is all you need.
Still coming out with 4 inch wheels?
Yes. We have them available, but haven't listed them yet. If you add a comment during checkout we can hook you up.
Most of these jack reviews are in a garage, which is where a floor jack is supposed to be used. Nobody has shown footage of a jack after being used out in the field on soft soil. My guess is that any or all of these jacks will be damaged after just a few uses when lifting a heavy vehicle on uneven and soft soil. My guess is that the jack's frames will get tweaked and twisted and compromised. That's why bottle jacks and farm jacks are still a good tool to have.
Ok I found JK Gear and Gadgets video on the off road jack and he really abused his jack. His jack survived. Some one asked what jacks I have? Just about all of them such as; 3 ton floor jack, avt/motorcycle jack, 20ton bottle jack which I used to lift a portion of a house, farm / hi-lift jack to pull fence posts, and a customer safe moving hoist which uses 2, 12 ton bottle jacks.
Nah, bottle jack in the mud is beyond miserable. The offroad jacks with skidplates are designed to sink the front wheels in the mud and then the weight is carried by the whole front end.
If you're working on stuff that you can actually lift with a floor jack then the off roads are game changers. Bottle jacks are still useful for their small footprint and extreme weight lifting capacity for heavy equipment a 3 ton floor jack can't touch anyways, but on soft ground you'll need a bunch of dunnage and you'll be rolling around and picking all that crap out of the mud when you just want to lift the vehicle, change the tire and GTFO. Never once having to crawl under the vehicle to place a bottle jack and all the shit that keeps it from sinking. I was done with that after we had to change a tire on an F350 in mud covered by snow early last year. Went and got a Badland a month later after seeing a bunch of CZcams reviews showing it off.
Used the Badland on concrete, gravel, mud, grass, cornfields, snow. Best purchase of 2023. I'd gladly lug that 70 lb jack around just to avoid using a bottle jack for most things. Hi-lifts are a total pass from me on anything heavy. I'll only ever pull those out of the corner for light tasks that need the extreme height capability, could easily live without them otherwise.
Do a search here on CZcams, there seem to be plenty of vids of folks field-testing these offroad jacks. I recently bought one and it's a game-changer for gravel driveways and snow.
Complaining that the badlands jack rolls too easily? Bearings over bushings all day. The badlands jack has a full length belly pan for using offroad that you neglected to show. The wheels are supposed to sink in. And the 45⁰ handle lock that you can flick with your foot is not a gimmick. It is genius. Don't bother buying anything else.
Excellent info!