Which Jacks are RUBBISH and which Jacks are GOOD
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- If you are in the unfortunate situation where you need to change a tyre on your beloved 4WD because you used a little too much "sendy send", you're going to need a way to lift your car. Here I do a review of factory jacks, high lift jacks, ARB Jack, and bottle jacks. Which one will I keep in my kit? Watch to the end to see a last minute spin on the subject.
The ARB jack *will* *leak* *if* *stored* *sideways* and destroy your interior, ARB will not cover the damages and take weeks to process a refund. It's junk, whereabouts are you meant to keep it stored vertically in your car?
Good to know
Wow what a pile of shit
Yep I know of someone who ordered one and when it arrived all the oil hd leaked in to the packaging, And anoth youtuber has trapped his fingers with one and the Handle has since broken off of the ARB jack, It's not a good jack and it is not Australian made, I would rather a Hi-Lift any day.
My first one died in a week, used it a fair few times but something happened where wouldn't stay up like the release button was on. The replacement has been laying sideways for a year and had been used a few times and is still good. I use simple little bottle Jack's too.
This one of the best & honest videos on Jacks I've ever seen. Great presentation & I thank you!
Hi, great video. Would you be able to do a separate video specifically on where the bottle jack is placed (lifting points) on the y62?
I like those extensions better than the wooden block I’ve been hauling around all these years although the block makes for a good base at times
Someone has already mentioned it, but that GU jack you could cut down a handle and chuck it in a cordless drill. I do the same kind of thing with my normal scissor car jacks at home, put a 1/2" socket adapter in the drill and a socket on the end, then use that to make the jack go up and down. One thing you kind of didn't factor into this video are the different situations as to why you would need to use the jack. High lift style jacks can be useful for lifting your car up if it becomes stuck, being able to hook it under a bullbar/slider/rear bar etc. Good luck trying to use a bottle/trolley jack if your vehicle is bottomed out to the chassis!
Does anyone know where I might buy a yellow jack extension kit such as the one in this video? I'm in the US, and for some reason when I search for jack extension kits I don't find this little beauty
Keep a length of 4x2 handy to put under the bottle jack on soft surfaces - spend half as long winding/pumping
WHERE DO YOU get the extensions for bottle jack?
10T Bottle Jack + Roadsafe Kit is the Best, most compact and lightest.
A rubber spacer block can be a good addition, as well as a block of wood with bolts to stop slippage.
Don't throw away the scissor jack, there are times when it is the only one you can get under the vehicle to begin lifting. Once it is up enough then switch to a hydraulic bottle jack. The extension jack is a great idea. That is going on my shopping list for sure.
The scissors jacks are the worst, once, the one I had, became bend under the cars. I was lucky to still have the tires on....do not even attempt to use it. The hydraulic bottle is better.
@@tepesquincle I wouldn't use one for ordinary jacking but there are times when a bottle jack just won't go under, so scissor jacks can get the vehicle up enough to use a bottle jack.
@@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen yap, you are right, in fact my Honda is about 45 cm high. Most of cars wouldn't fit a bottle underneath, beside, the round top of the bottle has not the dimension to fit into the area designed for. I usually put the bottle jack where the swinging arms join the frame. Strong enough to don't brake anything.
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Scissor jacks like hydraulic jacks, they too have ratings in lbs/Tons you know, they should not bend or gets damaged if you were using them according to weight of the vehicle & the lift rating specified.
battery powered drill driver on the gu jack
Question: The provided instructions say not to store the ARB Jack on its side or it will leak. Yet they are all shipped on their side. They also are stored on their side at the distribution warehouse and in delivery trucks. Mine arrived covered in oil because of these reasons. Further, how are we to store the Jack outside the vehicle if it comes in a storage bag that is without mounting hardware and which causes one to assume that the Jack is to be stored IN the vehicle, where it almost always can only be stored on its side, because of its height? Why isnt there mounting hardware specific to the Jack, designed/sold by ARB that is 1) meant to be mounted on exterior and that, 2) incorporates theft resistant features (e.g. lockable hardware)? I'm in the states. These are very popular here but that is changing quickly. I just returned from the Overland Expo and my question above, includes the 2 most heard complaints about this product and are the reasons why so many are now turning to other products. The number 1 complaint however: storing this on its side should not allow oil to leak/this is a very poor design feature! I love ARB but this is money I'm now seeing that was poorly spent, due to an incomplete design and a lack of mounting options, which ARB should've addressed prior to releasing this product. ARB, please address these 3 things, or I fear ARB will see this products interest lose steam. ARB is a solid company but the mark was missed on this one big time.
I recently picked up a Pro-Eagle Off Road Floor Jack. Quite impressive. Best of the bunch in my opinion.
Just heavy lol. I have the Beast
Whats the mechanical bottle jack called? The one that has a worm gear?
The hydraulic bottle jack is the best I have tried. Once I put it under the strongest point underneath my Honda CRV, I lift it while by while, then I work under with the standing jacks on . The scissors jacks are the worst, once, the one I had, became bend under the cars. I was lucky to still have the tires on....
Nice video, could you tell me where you are getting the lifts for those? The camo one in particular. Thanks!
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I have a GU jack but made an adapter basically the end of the winding rod with hook add a battery drill and its easy to go up and down by power, I also carry the good old scissor jack to get into small spaces but mine is electric it it lifts up so the Gu Jack can fit....However if you get bogged in muck the high lift or arb both have wheel lift adapters so you lift the wheels high to pack under the wheel
If I’m using the manufacturer’s provided mechanical jack, I’ll be grabbing one of my cordless impact wrenches with a proper size impact socket to lift/descending the jack,… that method is unbeatable .
use solid oak wood beams cut into blocks then use the blocks for added ground clearance giving bottle neck jack more height did this with jeep grand cherokee which by accident shifted off the bottle neck jacks only because it was not well centred the end of the bottle neck base was a bit on the edge of the wooden block which is enough for the corners of the wood to compress from heavy load and reason to put it well centred on a wooden block i made solid wooden oak ramps which is a bit heavy but very solid enough to carry the load of any suv
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Saw a high lift jack slide out sideways once. It will bust you up. You can keep em. Good vid Dash
In in the states we like to call the hi lift jack ..mechanic killers ...but i love them never ever had a problem also make a great winch as you stated but really its all about personal preference
Can you please share the link to buy the extension for screw jack. Regards
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I so loved the extension! Can you share a LINK to where to get some??
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Tha prado 90 i got has the same as the gu patrol, one without fluid i feel pretty save using it but its slow...
I use a 12 ton bottle jack with a bottle jack buddy. Great video comparison!
I prefer the Hi-Lift, In over 40 years I have never had a near miss with one, A Hi-Lift is only dangerous if used incorrectly, master them and you will never have a problem, Once I got stuck in the Bush cross Axled towing a Trailer and I really needed a Hi-Lift because my Wheels were a metre in the Air Trouble is I never had a Hi-Lift on board Since then I have always carried one, Each to his Own Ay.
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Great video. When you gonna return my nissan jack? I've been stuck here in the bush since you borrowed it 3 years ago.
One of the best videos 👍🏽👍🏽 .. subscribed
Ha wow i was litterally stuck out bush with my factory gu (s4) bottle jack. Couldnt lift it high enough (safely). I was thinking about upgrading to the other bottle jack, but looks like oll be just buying the extension.
What were you trying to do
You didn’t cover the exhaust Jack it’s a smelly dirty tool but it’s handy. I like a small strong bottle jack to you can even drive off them if necessary getting some nice tight places. But I will always use a highlift Jack I’ve been using them for more than two decades and are safe enough as long as you know what you’re doing and give it to respect it deserves. I’ve even use the highlift Jack to pull someone’s steering wheel out of there chest in order to get them out of the rolled vehicle. The highlift Jack is a multi tool and comes with many accessories . Can be a lot safer to use with the right accessories in the right situations. The Arb Jack is a nice Jack, but it Has’s to be stored up right and with the fluid it’s not so good in freezing cold temperatures as I live in the Rocky Mountains in Canada I know it’s struggles in this situation. I like how effortless it lifts a vehicle however put in the conditions I put it in it’s not ideal.
Looking up shoring jacks only to have this lifted prius come up.
Did you film this at the Tanunda caravan park?
Correct 👍
Good vid
I would have but the hydraulic bottle jack first because the worm drive is just too slow, I have both. I actually have a collection of bottle jacks.
Arb nose seems as dangerous as the tall one with that short nose
Re Highlift jack of any type
Use a ratchet strap to compress the suspension before lifting 💡
Now that's a good idea.👍
Laying the arb jack down ruins it plus it will angle just like the high lift when raised higher, basically it’s just a hydro hilift jack.
Good vid, was hunting for a new bottle jack love the oem 80 one similar to the gu one you showed! I didn’t realise they sold extendable bits. You’ve made my decision 👌🏽
I used a high lift in the rain and slipped jacking it up. The ratchet hadn't engaged and the handle hit me in the temple and knocked me out cold. They can kill you if you, or they, F up..
Wow 😮. I agree that Hi lifts are dangerous
Might change your lineup if you try a Pro Eagle jack
when u r in a muddy situation the only way to lift your car is using either a hi-lift or hydraulic hi-lift, trust me you won't be able to get under the car.
strap the suspension when using a high lift to keep from having to lift the vehicle through the full suspension travel
Great idea
DASH OffRoad I have been off-roading 21 years. Learned a trick or two over those years. I will not deny the inherent dangers of a hi lift jack, but it is no doubt the most versatile jack/tool and imo the best one to have in the bush
Interesting terminology used at 5:12... :)
Good review of jacks. However, he would have torn his bumper off. Before jacking your car, check the owner's guide for where to place the jack!! The scissors jack he disdains was made for the frame jacking points on most cars.
Air jacks or exhaust jacks what ever you call them? Better or worse?
I’ve only used an air jack once, and it was hard work 😓
We used to own one and threw it away. If you are on nice flat ground they MAY work, otherwise they are hopeless and are easy to puncture. Take up a lot of room for storage too.
@@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen Unfortuneate for you guys, yes its big, but by far the safest if you go by the rules, like a puncture proof layer. Amazing how experiences differ. I have a bad back so this pumping action can put me out of action, so avoid at all costs.
You do the best y62 videos on youtube
I have a new video on my Chanel of the series 5 patrol on the Dunes pls dash off-road check it out
Yes the HiLift is dangerous you just have to pay attention. It has a place. For me and as you mentioned winching especially for the rear of the vehicle. I like the ARB but God sakes the cost I hope it's not made in China for that price.
Pro eagle trolley jack has a stand and big boy wheels
Yeah mate they are the go works in sand rocks dirt amazing jacks
Exhaust jacks have saved me a few times
I understand your dislike of the Hi-Lift, I also think it's totally unfounded.
They are the Leatherman of off-road recovery tools. They do a lot ok, but don't particularly shine in any one department.
In this day and age where we're contantly fighting GVM, every KG saved is a good one. You need to consider taking things that are multipurpose.
What else can jack, winch, bend straight bent steering components, break a tyre bead etc?
Like anything, they're only as dangerous as the operator allows them to be.
Also do yourself a favour, use an original and not a Chinesem knock off, I haven't come across a good one yet.
Totally agree, the Hi Lift or even better the original
Jackall mk 2, both climbing pin jacks are worth having,
And yes they are 'potentialy' dangerous, but so are circular saws kitchen knives and hammers. If you weren't blessed with enough common sence to use a climbing pin jack with out getting hurt you probably should stay home.
I’ve researched a lot about a hi-lift jacks and seen all the pros and cons. My conclusion is I should probably get one.
Sure they’re dangerous but so is a chainsaw and a table-saw, which I have both and they are two of the most useful tools on the planet.
With the GU jack, just cobble-up an adaptor. Start with the hook that connects to the jacks turning knob...make this as long as you like or even just use the existing long handle; cutting it down to a suitable length... Weld a socket on the end with a 1/2" drive to match your battery-operated rattle gun. Use the rattle gun to raise and lower the jack. Too easy!!!
I have a crank handle cut down so I can chuck it in a cordless drill, I've seen similar jacks get damaged from an impact bearing on them under load
Great idea 💡
Considering most people who go off road have an air system of some sort I would suggest an air/hydraulic bottle jack would be the best option. Very expensive initial purchase but much easier to use.
Funny you say that, since the video, that’s what I have moved to
@@DASHOffRoadI haven't seen all of your videos, I watch them when I have time, have you got a video on your new setup?
I have 2" thick one square foot wood as base. Get untreated hard wood unlike me getting a treated pine. Stinks chemical inside car. A spray coating will fix it. Easier to get untreated pine, probably.
Lol great ending. Thanks
THANK YOU
hi lift jacks have been used in offroad for longer then the other jacks and have Accessories to make them safer .
Factory bottle jacks don't like being used in sandy riverbeds. Sand in the gear makes it difficult but they are underrated.
Best I've used was the weight of 3 guys and a 5m long tree to lever the car out of its predicament in the sandy riverbed.
“Want to loose all your teeth, that’s the way you jack” I won’t jack it like that, I’m a righty anyway
I like scissors jacks but then again my cars a lower to the ground.
Hoist is the beat!
Bottle jack. With extension. Thanks.
You are right, the best Jack, is the one that you don’t have to use.
Wow. Someone’s getting kick backs from ARB. What do you mean it’s more stout and won’t go side to side. It’s the same thing as the dang hi lift. Still a pole and it still can go side to side. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I wish I was getting kick backs, from anyone 😅
Thanks
You should learn to use a high lift jack properly before you disregard it. No good half setting it up. That was a rubbish attempt. Set it up right and it will lift that wheel a foot off the ground safely. Push tyres off beads. Straighten steer arms. Pull pegs out. Snatch straps can be just as dangerous, yet everyone has one.
with gu jack, cut the spinning handle off and chuck her in a cordless drill. easy up and down ! you've missed another jack, airbag jack. compact and all you need is compressed air which every 4wd will have
HiLift jacks are not dangerous, people who use them use have not been properly trained. It's by far the best jack for offroad use when it comes to the intersection of cost and versatility.
Pro Eagle. Get it and don't look back.
If you think Hydraulic hi lift is safer than the ratchet high lift other than ease of use and hitting the handle you are mistaken
factory jack is well under rated
Best Jack.....Pro Eagle....The Beast
Scissor jacks are dangerous as ever, I’ve had three collapse on me in my life
ARB IS 8 TIMES THE COAST OF A HI LIFT, BEEN USING A HILIFT FOR 30 YRS NEVER AN ISSUE TREAT IT LIKE YOUR EX, IT MIGHT HELP YOU, BUT IT REALLY WANTS TO HURT YOU.
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None of the jacks that you show case here, with the possible exception of the bottle jack can do this czcams.com/video/4_IBgC_hPoE/video.html and super easy like this czcams.com/video/8V3uBhvPUc0/video.html
Not a fan of Scissor jacks sorry
C’mon bro, the high lift is the best if you use it properly. Kick the base in before you use it. Get some training and stop being a skirt. This reeks of sponsorship. Mount that big boy to the roof and send bro! Nut up and stop agreeing with Mr (I’m too good for supercentre) Darl
Totally not sponsored. And high lifts suck and they’re dangerous. Can’t agree with you this time sorry.
@@DASHOffRoad Mate, learn to use a high lift before you disregard it. No good half setting it up. Set it up right and it will lift that wheel a foot off the ground safely.
Get your self portable electric jack from China, thank me later
Hey bro its my bottle jack. Please return it to me. Cheers mate
Air jack
Trolley jacks are meant for workshops
The ARB is hands down the best. It's just stupid expensive. Waiting for someone to come out w/ the same thing at 1/2 the price.
You're what now 4:51 5:12
Hi Lift jack the most versatile jack available. You don't know what you are doing!
My God you have no idea do you. How many years have you been teaching recovery ? The hi lift jack was never meant to jack a car for maintenance, it was meant to lift the car so you can push the car and jack to the side and move the car to the side..