Apollo 17 Vs Artemis 1
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- Apollo 17 Vs Artemis 1 - Just a bit of fun, side by side views of the Apollo 17 and Artemis 1 launches with the audio mixed together !
My thanks to Orbital Velocity for the permission to use his video which can be see here • Artemis 1 SLS finally ...
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I’m biased but nothing will ever look as cool as a Saturn V liftoff. Apollo 17 was the only lunar mission I have memories of watching live, and I’ve always been fascinated by the early days of space exploration. Kudos to you for all of your work past, present, and future.
Thanks miserq
And the only Saturn V to launch at night!
@@clarkpj1 yep!
Two night-launch bookends. One an ending, the other a beginning...
Very well put
Watching this I remember a quote from a Shuttle Astronaut about the power of the SRB's; "If there's going to be a launch (Abort / Hold), you better hope it's before the (SRB's) ignite, because once they do, you're going *somewhere*."
It continues to amaze me how the Saturn v was designed by engineers using slide rules. What they did in seven years, designing the rockets, designing the infrastructure then building the entire thing is incredibly amazing.
The liftoff of both launch vehicles and spectacular. The Artimas flame front from the SRB'S was amazing and the SRB SEP was fantastic. The Apollo 17 launch was also incredible. The first stage sep was excellent to see. Both launches were great.
In 1972, the world watched as Apollo 17 launched on what would be the last manned moon mission of the 20th century.
Fifty years later, in 2022, the world watched once again as Artemis 1 set off on the first mission of a new manned lunar program, starting mankind’s long-awaited return to the Moon.
Yep
I feel so blessed i saw both ... 1972 live on TV and now THIS ...
Have to watch 2001 and 2010 now. (As i did 2001 & 2010)
They should have followed up at LEAST Apollo 18 & 19… the financial difference between then and now is remarkable! A lot more was done for less then and there wasn’t so much incompetence
@@respectdawildo_danjones508 You hit the nail squarely on the head. When I worked the NASA tracking network in the 70's the saying was, "We've done so much for so little for so long that now we can do anything with nothing".
@@clarkpj1 : Wow ! We are so lucky !
Best times, best life, best childhood.
Greet's from a German guy living in Poland now.
Both boosters were/are beasts. Just happy to see that we're back in the manned space exploration business again and moving past low Earth orbit.
Its been a long road, but our time is finally here
It's still unreal to me that I got to see SLS lift off after all these years! Apollo/Saturn V will always be my favorite, but damn I cried when Artemis lifted off! Artemis is my Apollo! I plan on being at the launch for Artemis 2!
There's no comparison between the two. Theres nothing like a Saturn V launch.
Good to see both side by side. SLS clears the tower way sooner. Would be nice to see an altitude comparison as both ascend.
Thank you for putting these two momentous launches together.
Apollo 17 was part of my childhood and Artemis 1 part of my [near!] old age.
Yeah, I’m shamelessly biased as well - nothing is ever going to beat a Saturn V launch. Artemis and SLS have *a lot* to live up to.
Since Artemis doesn't accomplish all the elements of a lunar landing mssion with a single launch, Saturn V will remain unmatched in many ways.
Starship, ya NASA stans
@@MagicAl5F4781 Apollo was a crash program to put Americans on the Moon before the USSR. It had no other purpose. That's why Saturn did it one go.
As a 9-year-old growing up in Kansas back 50 years ago, I remember staying up ON A SCHOOL NIGHT!!! just to watch the last manned launch headed out to the moon. PRICELESS MOMENT!
Nothing beats a Saturn 5 launch. Still to this day, an incredible launch vehicle, as were the young guys in the trench who worked tirelessly to make it the success it became.
Much love for the whole Apollo program and its brave Astronauts.
Seeing Artemis launch brings a new excitement for returning to the moon.
I can't wait to get human beings back on the moon. 👍
I’ll forever be amazed I was able to see Artemis from across the state on the opposite coast.
I was lucky to see both in person and this is PERFECT! Thanks so much!
Didn't expect this vid to give me goosebumps but man it sure did!
It is claimed the Apollo launches were felt as much as heard. The size of the Saturn V F1 engine nozzles caused the maximum sound power levels to peak around 10-20 Hz, at 120-125 dB at the VAB. This caused visceral sensations in the gut and lungs which can be heard in the cries of people in audio recordings made on site. During the Skylab launch there is a metallic sound which an eyewitness claimed was the enormous roll-up doors on the VAB rattling. Those recordings were still on the web 5 years ago but no longer.
My husband witnessed both launches. Both were amazing. You just cannot beat a manned crew. Artimis still has a lot to prove. At the end of the Mission, both discarded over 90% of the vehicle. And we lost historic shuttle era engines. How did we improve over 50 years?
I am looking to Starship. Artimis is just too expensive and expendable. Great light show though.
Yup, everything gets thrown away including the SRB's which used to he recovered for reuse. That's why there will only be 8 launches of the SLS after which NASA will need new launch vehicles...after 8 launches they run out of Shuttle main engines and SRB segments.
Beautiful! But I'm biased to the SI-C and those mighty F-1 engines. Just showing my age I suppose.
I had the privilege of watching Apollo 15 launch from beside the VAB. Doesn't get any better than that!
The Saturn V had what is considered now primitive technology makes it all the more impressive. Such a beautiful vehicle.
Excellent job, 50 years apart, so much change, but the goal is the same.
amazing to think there is that amount of time between - thanks for the comment
Nothing comes close to a Saturn V launch and Apollo 4 remains my favourite thanks to the awe it inspired in Apollo fan, Walter Cronkite's commentary. 7.5 million pounds of thrust simply dwarved all that had come before and the press and tv men just weren't prepared for its magnificence, plus the fact that this was the machine that ultimately would take men to the Moon and it worked so well first time up, I'm pretty sure that many of the journalists were half expecting Apollo 4 to explode into millions of pieces without even leaving the launch tower because of previous failures with new rocketry. In comparison, the STS was a lot less bang for wasted bucks.
Great side by side comparison! Thanks!
A side by side animation would be cool showing velocity, alt., trajectory etc..
Fantastic video, thank you! 🙏
In regards to Artemis I, my heart was thumping big time.
1968 to 1972,the greatest..
I love the Saturn V rocket 🚀 Apollo 17 night launch is the best 🔭
Interesting comparison . thing I wish Flight Control did was to mention how many nautical miles in Altitude Artimis was. And I do miss FPS Speed readings . Just Glad we are. Going back.
I was lucky enough to watch Apollo 17 in person, missed Artemis 1.
Thank you LM5 amazing video!
Saw 'em both... middle of the night... live at KSC. Lucky me !! : ]
Awesome
@@lunarmodule5 Awesome... and ancient. : [
@@russells9687 or..wise!
@@lunarmodule5 LOL. I'll buy it. Beats "seasoned" (or decrepit).
Nice comparison 👍
Thanks Bas
Thanks for posting this :-]]]
Trul exellent work on this video
Even in my mind, I could not have visualized this side-by-side comparison any better. Lunarmodule5 will soon be (if it's not already) THE GO-TO source of this type of footage and analysis. Ladies and Gentlemen; Welcome to the Second Space Age!
Thanks for the kind words
Both are friggen badass, the SLS has the Blue Flame of the Future and the Saturn V had the raw power of Red Flame ripping the atmosphere a new "hole". 💪
Nothing beats the Saturn V... 😍😍😍
Well done!
Fits perfectly with it like it’s daytime
if apollo 8 saved 1968 artemis just saved the future
Interesting to see the TWR differences between SLS and the Saturn V. SLS clears the pad so fast. It's amazing to see Artemis I finally happening and I'm glad that the gap between humanity leaving the moon and returning is finally closing.
Part of this is also that the SLS core is somewhat overpowered for the Block 1 vehicle. Block 1B will lift off much slower, and will have the EUS completing the last leg of ascent much like the SIVB.
@@okankyoto True, B1b will be slower on ascent. Also because of the co-manifested payloads on the EUS. An other interesting fact might be that with Artemis I, the SLS core stage is probably the largest object that was ever sent beyond LEO as it sent Orion to a 30x1800km orbit. Of course the core stage then reentered and burned up, but it’s still cool.
Artemis also isn't carrying a crew vehicle AND a lander.
@@effervescentrelief But it is carrying the weight through Dummies and cube sats I think, I may be wrong.
@@effervescentrelief Yes indeed. Apollo had three astronauts, another spacecraft and a car on board. Cheers
Unique idea for a video!
This could easily be expanded into a series. For instance, I'm curious about how Artemis will handle the issue of space radiation, since as a result of the vastly longer missions it will undertake, the lower allowed exposure limits for crews, more rad-sensitive advanced electronics, and newer, better shielding materials, it faces issues qualitatively different from those Apollo had to deal with.
So much awesomness
Great video and comparison lunarmodule5!! Are you going to do the same when Space X gets the Starship/Heavy Booster on its maiden launch?
The brightest night rocket launch since the launch of the Explorer satellite in 1958.
Er, there was Apollo 17 right there and a number of Shuttle launches were at night.
The beauty and only Saturn V.
Interesting how the solids on SLS put out so much light compared to the Saturn , I’m thinking because of the aluminum particles in the exhaust?
SRB plume?
@@lunarmodule5 yes
@@JimmysSpeedShop Also those SRBs leapt off the pad considerably faster than the Saturn's S-IC. The SRM-augmented Titans leapt off similarly. Yet the Saturn's superior payload capacity was the classic "slow and steady wins the race"!
I hate the live commentary NASA provides during missions nowadays. I mean it's truly terrible...
I can listen to Walter Cronkite, or pretty much any broadcast of the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo missions 50 times each and still go back and listen again...and I wasn't even alive for any of them.
I tried watching the NASA broadcast for the DART mission and Artemis 1 most recently and could never imagine anyone wanting to listen to those again ever. The first listen was a real ear beating.
I totally agree! They need to borrow John Hunsicker from SpaceX, or coax some of the Shuttle era PAO staff to come out of retirement or return. The new generation is trying too hard to be hip.
Man SLS goes like a bat out of hell!
Putting the old SV next to it rally illustrates that doesnt it
@@lunarmodule5 yep, those SRBs have some kick to them!
funny how the words from both WORK!
I enjoyed mixing the two together
👍👍
Was Apollo 17 in April. Of 1972?
December 72
The Apollo 17 launch wins by a landslide. Why? Because three lives and a three day geology extravaganza on the Moon depended on it. Like comparing a preseason game to a championship! That said, so very pleased that Artemis 1 is going well. Let's get some astronauts back to the Moon!
Agree Dave 👍
I watched the liftoff of every manned Apollo Saturn V and Skylab live and there’s nothing to beat it. I do appreciate Spacex’ coverage of its launches with their detailed presentation of velocities and distances, but NASA’s coverage of Artemis was abysmal. No onboard cameras, no on-screen info and any data they did present was in old-fashioned mph, miles and feet per second. Seems NASA still haven’t learned from the Mars Climate Orbiter debacle.
I did not care for the NASA PAO coverage of the Artemis launch, but I’m going to defend them for using Imperial units instead of metric. Although NASA uses the metric system internally, the US is still officially on the Imperial system; while many Americans are at least familiar with the metric system, most American are more comfortable measuring altitude and speed in miles. I count myself among the latter.
Yes, we understand that the USA is still miles behind the rest of the world when it comes to using the global units of measurement and frequently pays the price for that. I also understand that NASA is a government entity paid for by US tax dollars and is not a global enterprise, but once you start thinking globally like SpaceX does, even NASA will have to change to SI units. @@JBM425
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One legendary launch vehicle, one cobbled together jobs program that'll never work right.
C'mon Starship.
No contest. Apollo was more amazing . And for many reasons.
The NASA PAO crew for the Artemis launch sounded unprepared and unprofessional throughout the countdown. Bring back the crew from the Shuttle era… or borrow John Hunsicker from SpaceX.
NASA seems very woke these days
I found the NASA studio presentation unwatchable for grown-ups. A panel of grinning playgroup teachers speaking to an audience of needy children. So different to the majesty of Jack King, Paul Haney et al.
@@davidgriffiths8845 So, so true. I felt like I was back in 3rd grade watching the commentary.
@@clarkpj1 One day the adults will be back in-charge.
@@davidgriffiths8845 I hope so but it might take a while.
@@davidgriffiths8845 The SpaceX way!
Apollo 17 > Artemis 1
SLS Commentator is the WORST in the history of NASA…..ugh!
Agree. That was embarrassing.