Oxford Rail Adams Radial Tank | Unboxing & Review (Motor Fails on Camera!)

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  • @iceeblueburst03
    @iceeblueburst03 Před 4 lety +73

    IM GONNA GET CROSS AND SMACK IT! 👋
    -Sam'sTrains 2019

  • @leroyholm9075
    @leroyholm9075 Před 3 lety +14

    Love the grace, dignity & design of this Victorian Locomotive. I also think the greyhounds were a classic of Victorian design

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Leroy, I agree - fantastic looking models! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @robertbunting8959
    @robertbunting8959 Před 4 lety +80

    Just me or does that seem a really high rating for something with a damning failure in that motor

    • @zippy963
      @zippy963 Před 4 lety +10

      Crazy score. Only high score it should get is for detail.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +22

      Yeah I see your point. The rating was based on the fact that the motor failure (hopefully) isn't an issue with every model. The more I think about it though, I should have been more harsh given that 2/2 of mine have failed!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @robertbunting8959
      @robertbunting8959 Před 4 lety +2

      No worries, its all about talking as a community, an I understand your point of view, if people weren't differant the world would be rather boring! Keep up the good work!

    • @terrycharleslewis7565
      @terrycharleslewis7565 Před 4 lety +2

      Good points,well made.

    • @tim04
      @tim04 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SamsTrains sam could you look and investigate the motor and maybe see if you can do your own motor swap for a different one from different supplier? It could be the fix everyone needs if the motor can be changed

  • @jashugg
    @jashugg Před 4 lety +5

    The first Atlantic wheel arrangement locomotives were 4-4-2T, effectively 4-4-0 tender locomotives developed into a tank design with a trailing single axle added to provide support and balance for the extra weight of the water tank and rear coal bunker. 4-4-2 tender locomotives came later. Whether tank or tender arrangements are used for the consumables, they are both Atlantics!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ooh very interesting James - thanks a lot for this! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

  • @bambostarla6259
    @bambostarla6259 Před 4 lety +27

    Well, I was kind of tempted by this. But the motor issue is a huge no no.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah for sure - the motors are a huge let down :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @kunstmichi
    @kunstmichi Před 4 lety +12

    What an unbelievable pretty and well detailed model loco for this price! Thank you for your videos and greetings from Germany (where simply ALL model trains are unbelievable expensive and their producers seem to be greedy - regardless of the consequences...)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +3

      haha thanks very much mate! Yeah I've had that impression about European manufacturers at times too!! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @PaintballGargoyle
    @PaintballGargoyle Před 4 lety +3

    Sam, thank you so much for what you do for the train community!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      It's nothing mate, appreciate your kind words! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @GeoffCarlill
    @GeoffCarlill Před 7 měsíci

    Hi Sam, Fantastic review,thank you. So refreshing to find impartial,thorough and scientific evaluation in railway models.
    Given your liking for pre-grouping,steam locomotives with die-cast chassis, gorgeous lining and beautifully applied details. It is also a dependable runner and on offer in retailers around the century mark. Great value IMHO.

  • @jamestalbot4900
    @jamestalbot4900 Před 4 lety +4

    Hi Sam, great video as ever. I have an LSWR one I picked up second hand for £40, so if ever the motor fails I won’t be too put out having to replace it.
    The other problem with the bogie is the NEM pocket catches on the buffer beam on changes in gradient. It’s a shame about the rear pony truck, but it’s worth remembering this was Oxford’s first attempt at a loco.
    Nice choice of odd one out by the way ;) given that modified versions of the C1 were built by the LBSC.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Jim - yeah that doesn't sound too bad! And interesting - I've not come across that issue before! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @arrekatarver7482
    @arrekatarver7482 Před 4 lety +4

    One of my favorite models just has a certain charm to me thanks for the video

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah I agree - they are very charming! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @napsbrickrailways2290
    @napsbrickrailways2290 Před 4 lety

    Hey Sam, funny story.
    I was out in Glasgow for my birthday, went down to a pizza hut and had a nice lunch. When I leave 7 FIRE TRUCKS are parked outside the Poundland nextdoor to the pizza hut. The fire alarm was ringing and I saw everyone evacuating the building. Up above, there was scaffolding on the building. Apparently the scaffolding at the top had collapsed and fell into an open window with a candle inside!
    So I just walked across the street and bought the book ' Loco Spotter's Guide ' from Waterstones like nothing ever happened!
    -JJ

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Blimey JJ! That sounds quite dramatic! Why on earth did they call the fire department for that?!? ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @toothpasta500
    @toothpasta500 Před 4 lety +6

    Probably in my top ten. Just classic and beautiful

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Absolutely - they're so lovely aren't they?! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @harryrobinson2901
    @harryrobinson2901 Před 4 lety +3

    These things had a pretty long working life! A few were used of the Lyme Regis branch until the 1960’s, I think! There was simply nothing else that could round the corners while having the power.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks for the info Harry- I didn't know this!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Chris9017
    @Chris9017 Před 4 lety +1

    That is a VERY beautiful engine. I have the Southern Radial tank, and like you, I too have had problems with the motor. Oiling it every so often helps keep it cool and prevents it from over heating too much, and it runs great. But I've had to do A LOT of fiddling with the motor and pick-ups to get it working right.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Cheers Chris - yes, I keep fiddling the my motors too - a good clean out does fix it for a time, but the issue comes back in the end :/
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @SammoKarm
    @SammoKarm Před 4 lety

    Had a good laugh at the way you described its inadequate running. Well done mate.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha thanks Sam - I enjoy having the opportunity to slay something ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @martinbradshaw7877
    @martinbradshaw7877 Před 2 lety +1

    Such a great review Sam. So eloquent and informative. Two points, and forgive me for not having trawled through all the other responses. One, as a point of interest. It is my understanding that after being taken out of service to put into storage and brought back by British rail to run on the line Regis line where they did very successfully. Secondly, a question. Is it not feasible simply to buy a cheap replacement motor. I love your reviews

  • @stephenpearce7058
    @stephenpearce7058 Před 4 lety

    I have probably done things the wrong way round because I have not built my circuit layout yet and I have purchased the trains I like first. I went to a fair and purchased a Bachmann Midland 1F which luckily you gave a good review. I also purchased a Oxford Adams Rail Black BR 30582 because I fell in love with it the detail is second to none. I paid £65 for it so it was cheap. I was told the dealer bought up 10 of these bankrupt stock and it was the last he had. He did take it out and tried it and it ran ok. Having watched your review I’m a little worried that I may get motor problems, but your advice will help me be cautious with it. It is such a cracking model I will still be happy with it. I will do the modification with the front spring and cut it down to help it run on the track better so that’s a positive. Thanks for all your advice and keep up with the great videos.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      haha that's fair enough mate - you need something to run when you get your track together! Hope all goes well with yours - you might well get away with it!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @finlanddoesnotexist92
    @finlanddoesnotexist92 Před 4 lety +46

    Oxford Radial Tank: *exists*
    Motor: I’m about to end this man’s whole career

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +2

      haha absolutely! ;D

    • @flat2sqright
      @flat2sqright Před 4 lety

      No one: a model railway video exists
      Big Chungus: I'm about to end this whole man's career

    • @bussesandtrains1218
      @bussesandtrains1218 Před 4 lety

      @@flat2sqright na not me
      *Dose the looks to one side meme*

  • @aedanraynal1589
    @aedanraynal1589 Před 4 lety

    Finally I always wanted this to be reviewed.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thank you! Hope you enjoy it! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

  • @simoncoleman6923
    @simoncoleman6923 Před rokem

    Just modded the spring, transformative - thanks Sam. The new olive version 3520 seems ok with a dcc chip. My layout is designed for short shunting & not a loop so I can’t see if extended running makes the motor hot.

  • @lukegreen5341
    @lukegreen5341 Před 4 lety

    8:02 This Famous Locomotive Adams Radial Tank From The Bluebell Railway Is Also Appears On Sheena Easton's No.1 Hit Single Morning Train 9 To 5 Back In 1981. Thanks Sam'sTrains Mate. X

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      That's very cool Luke - I didn't know about that! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @thesteamdieselandelectricr3299

    24:21 M7: ha you've lost. Adams Radial Tank: come on motor

  • @user-qc5jo3po5f
    @user-qc5jo3po5f Před 4 lety +1

    Looks great! Good work.

  • @rynodynomyte2755
    @rynodynomyte2755 Před 4 lety +3

    Beautiful model Sam! I heard the preserved examples overhaul requires new wheels and a new boiler barrel or entirely new boiler! I hope and wish the Bluebell will overhaul the engine sometime!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks a lot Ryno - blimey, that sounds quite a job!!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @runningpenguin9176
    @runningpenguin9176 Před 4 lety +1

    My new favorite loco you reviewed appearance wise

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear that! They are gorgeous aren't they?! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @NorbertRoll
    @NorbertRoll Před 4 lety +1

    What shall I say... indeed a beautiful and very detailed model.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Norbert, glad you liked her! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

  • @stashyjon
    @stashyjon Před 4 lety +1

    Good review Sam
    Yes it is an Atlantic, other railways which had 4-4-2T's, the GWR. NER, GCR, GNR and NBR to name a few (and most pre grouping railways built some), refered to them officially as Atlantic tanks.
    Anway, great model, and not often you see a loco in the livery of one of the small independent 'light' railways. Same about the mechanical issues. Still its a learning curve for Oxford Rail
    Jon

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot for that Jon - and yeah I agree, lovely to see a loco in a livery like this one!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @johntunicliffe9019
    @johntunicliffe9019 Před 3 lety

    Went for the Hornby wartime black model. Very pleased with it.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      Lucky you John - that's a great looking one! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @danbalsom8733
    @danbalsom8733 Před 4 lety +3

    I love your reviews Sam. They're well produced, very fair and insightful. But I can't help but feel if this was a Hornby or Bachmann model with the same motor problems, you would of marked it well down on the ratings.
    100% we should support smaller companies they make great models like Oxford Rail though. I myself bought the OR Dean Goods off the back of your review and love it.
    Keep up the good work.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks so much Dan, you're very kind! I tried to take into account that not all examples will have the motor issues - but I agree, looking back it seems too lenient!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @tonyslight826
    @tonyslight826 Před 2 lety

    Hi Sam I got one those radial tank locos love i also had to modify it. could ask you about the Hornby m7 in your video dose it have a spring on the rear bogie .

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video Sam it looks good in that green but I don't know whether to get one with the problems with the rear axle and now motor problems

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks David - yeah that's understandable, can't say I've been very impressed with these of mine :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @connorjohnson7834
    @connorjohnson7834 Před 4 lety

    We've got a Southern Black version and have never had a problem with the motor, however the chassis problem persists, might have to try your fix

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear your motor seems sound - at least the chassis problems are much more easily corrected!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 Před 4 lety +1

    I have the BR black oxford rail version of this and it's pretty well detailed. I haven't run her yet but I might need to do the modifications first to prevent the issues. Although Oxford might have updated the motor as this model of yours might have been in stock for a while without the updated motor

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Ben - yes they are beautifully detailed aren't they?! That's very possible - I don't know whether they've updated them or not!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @rosaleal6043
    @rosaleal6043 Před 4 lety

    30583 needs not just an overhall but a hole new boiler. So the loco is well and truly nackered. Love your vids mate ceep it up

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Blimey! Quite serious then - let's hope they do it one day!! :O
      Thanks a lot for your kind words,
      Sam :)

  • @henrybn14ar
    @henrybn14ar Před 4 lety

    Atlantic? They were a development of the 4-4-0 tank locomotives designed by Adams for the North London Railway. They had very little coal capacity and the LSWR design was a modification with trailing wheels are to support the extended coal bunker.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for letting me know Henry! I suppose it can be called an Atlantic then!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @MrKenichi22
    @MrKenichi22 Před 4 lety

    awesome video, thanks for showing how to fix it

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      My pleasure mate, glad you liked that!

    • @MrKenichi22
      @MrKenichi22 Před 4 lety

      Sam'sTrains Yep, I enjoy learning how to take care of our model trains. It’s great when we can salvage a locomotive.

  • @DevonGeorge85
    @DevonGeorge85 Před 4 lety

    I had the Southern livery version with sound, factory fitted, and had no issues as far as I can remember. A little bit of wheel slip is about the only issue I had.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear that George - looks like you got a good one! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @terrycharleslewis7565
    @terrycharleslewis7565 Před 4 lety +1

    At the start of this review I was going to buy one Sam. Now I've seen it, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. As a customer, you shouldn't be thinking "I hope it'll be alright". I've a O R Dean Goods and wouldn't pull you out of bed either. Great review though, alll the best, Terry.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah you're right of course Terry - not ideal if you don't like a faff! I've heard the Hornby ones are better, so I might pick one up to test! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @joshmartin152
    @joshmartin152 Před 4 lety

    Can't wait to see it pull some of the new Hattons 4 or 6 wheel coaches

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha - the way it's going, it won't be around long enough to try!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @RMStinson
    @RMStinson Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam! Mine, in Southern livery, hasn't had motor problems. Lucky, since returning items from the US to the UK can cost quite a bit! Thanks though for the spring tip. Mine wouldn't go over a 60 deg. rail crossing.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Hi Robert, glad to hear that mate - let me know how you go on once you've modded the spring!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @garethw8884
    @garethw8884 Před 4 lety

    I have the very same one its a lovely loci and looks great with those coaches

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Gareth - yes they do look lovely with matching coaches! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @garethw8884
      @garethw8884 Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains i thought i would get it out and run it in. All i got was slow slow slow till you put it on full power. Then like yourself it got quite hot what a shame. Back to the shop it goes then 😔

  • @lukeblake7003
    @lukeblake7003 Před 4 lety +16

    Any plans to review the kernow Model railway Centre Adams O2 class tank engine?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      I haven't thought about it - it might be a nice one to try though! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @JustinFrazier_360
    @JustinFrazier_360 Před 4 lety

    Amazing video sam

  • @a.l.l43102
    @a.l.l43102 Před 3 lety

    I have literally put my BR Black one on my layout about an hour ago and straight away it barely moves at all. It looks lovely but I think I will have to get it repaired.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, that's the common issue... I will be doing a video at some point showing how to clear out the old lubricant and service these... provided the motor isn't totally faulty, that will produce an improvement. Try not to run it in the mean time - the motor may be under great strain!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @richardstone3473
    @richardstone3473 Před 3 lety

    Wish I had watched this prior to purchase.Bought as birthday present for someone from Kent. ,On the big day tried running it in. Moved very slowly then failed to move at all with a distinct smell of burning and the body of the loco was hot to touch. Missed the 14 day return as I had bought it some weeks previously. The on line retailer said they would contact Oxford and I can send to them for fixing? I do not have expertise at all but I think there is a fundamental design flaw that is not fixable.

  • @shadowmaster8684
    @shadowmaster8684 Před 4 lety +1

    I love the design of this locomotive

  • @ScottishNSRailFan
    @ScottishNSRailFan Před 4 lety

    Very enjoyable viewing over Sunday lunch. Will not be adding Oxford Rail, to my collection of nearly 200 OOs locos.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks very much mate, hope you had a good lunch! Oxford have made some fantastic models lately - but as their first motorised one, this left a lot to be desired!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @TheTrainMaster15
    @TheTrainMaster15 Před 4 lety +1

    Since the Robinson A5 is called a Pacific tank engine, I think it’s safe to say that this can be called an Atlantic tank engine

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot for clarifying - I'd agree! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @phil36310
    @phil36310 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam, Mine is now more than 3 years. A DCC-sound version. I modified the rear axle and front bogie and she is a good runner.
    I also had correct the speaker vibrating in the housing. Well RTR ...Ready To Repair. Not a strong puller dough. Sorry yours is defect. Maybe change the motor - not that difficult. Good luck & greetings.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear you could fix yours Filip - yes no doubt the motor is to blame in mine, but I'm struggling to find a good replacement - I don't just want to fit another one from Oxford!
      Happy New Year,
      Sam :)

  • @jackamus_prime5062
    @jackamus_prime5062 Před 4 lety +2

    Adams class it's looked amazing

  • @ILikeTransport
    @ILikeTransport Před 4 lety +2

    Technically the motor didn't fail. Fantastic review Sam! Two words: Diesels please!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I think technically it did; it failed to perform as it was expected to!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @lowrangemaniac5326
    @lowrangemaniac5326 Před 4 lety

    You can grind a litte bit the housing of the rear axle to make it sit a little bit higher from the tracks

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I have thought about that - but I'm not sure I'd fancy it! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @jamesdunloptrains
    @jamesdunloptrains Před 4 lety

    Loved the video today Sam such a shame about the motor issue because it is a beautiful locomotive

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks James! I agree - it is a shame :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @jekylthorn8969
    @jekylthorn8969 Před 2 lety

    Received the Southern version of this last Christmas. It has run like a bag of spanners since I first took it out of the box. Bad smell of burning oil, hot motor, barely moves under 70% power, stops on some points. Will trim the spring one day but I have lost the will to live with it. Great looking loco but everything else is bad.

  • @thomasfune3383
    @thomasfune3383 Před 4 lety

    Great review

  • @joelightrailway2362
    @joelightrailway2362 Před 4 lety

    Excellent review of the Oxford Rail ‘Adams’ Radial tank Sam 👍
    I feel sorry for you as they are really great models of ‘Adams’ tank to run on your layout and they keep on stopping & slowing along.
    What I think you should do is to buy a Hornby version to see the different between the two and you should buy it at Warley exhibition and do a reboot video to see what is your impression.
    I myself got a Oxford Rail ‘Adams’ Radial tank which is the one on the Bluebell Railway but in LSWR livery and it runs fine(as shown in my video of the model), but I have to take your word for it as I don’t want any fire on my boards and now I given it a limited run on the layout.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Joe - not to worry, can't be helped! I think I might try a Hornby one some day though - I've heard they're more reliable!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @InkblotHyena
    @InkblotHyena Před 4 lety

    I've had a BR Black Adams Radial for a while myself. Unfortunately, the motor gave out after a single running session. It didn't slow down. The motor just seized and it never worked again. I hope Oxford works on the issues with these engines, as they add quite a bit of grace to a layout in my honest opinion. My BR Radial is, unfortunately, a static engine in my roundhouse until I can fix the thing myself, or swap the motor for a new one.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Sorry to hear that mate - but certainly not surprised - luckily their later models do seem to be much better in that area!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @suzanacuk8639
    @suzanacuk8639 Před 4 lety

    Great video i loved it

  • @PaulGarwood
    @PaulGarwood Před 4 lety

    Lovely looking loco, just wondered is it DCC ready? and are there any sound chips for this?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yes and yes - I'm pressure sure there are suitable sound chips, though I've never owned one, so don't quote me on that!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @robmasterman
    @robmasterman Před 4 lety

    What a shame Sam, that such a beautiful model has these running issues...should be such an easy thing to fix....Great Review...Bob

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Bob! Yes it's a real shame - if I could only find a suitable motor to replace it, it should be nice and easy! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @nickdaniels4899
    @nickdaniels4899 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam. Regardless of weather they are a tank or a tender locomotive, the wheel configuration of 4 4 2 is generally known as atlantics. so the adams radial tank is an atlantic tank. it's the same with the Gresley A5s which are pacific tank engines, which have yet to appear on the model railway seen, but maybe time will tell. And you say don't put more than 2 coaches on her. but from what I can establish from the sounds of the steam age sound effect cds and cassettes which you use to get, and I believe there are a few floating round on Amazon, the most that the radial tanks would pull in they're operational years is 2 coaches any way. so it would make sense pretty much. It's a shame that this particular radial tank and it's elder sister is suffering from motor issues, but if I remember correctly, this was 1 of Oxford rail's products, and they were finding their feet at the time. maybe some time in the future they might re-issue the radial tank with an improved pole 5 motor or something. after all your latest dean goods locomotive worked fine did it not? so it is a possibility. good work on those videos.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for this Nick, I thought as such! Glad to hear that they can pull a prototypical load - though I'm sure the real thing could have managed more than two coaches without a major meltdown ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @AdiPullen
    @AdiPullen Před 4 lety

    Hi sam
    It this stranger again
    I have the br black one I love the details with oxford rail stuff
    The N7 is wow a stunner
    This looks great runs poor am close to selling mine at this piont
    Am hoping the j27 is better
    Keep safe arp

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Hey Adi, how are you? Yes the N7 was a real stunner - but I can't blame you for not wanting to keep your Radial tank - the failure rate does seem to be very high! I've heard great things about the J27!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @nathanantwhistle3869
    @nathanantwhistle3869 Před 4 lety

    This is why I got the Hornby version of 488 in preservation colours.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Fantastic! Does it run better?? :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Bobbingtonn
    @Bobbingtonn Před 4 lety

    I had a look, the axles appear to be like that on the one preserved at the bluebell railway.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ahh okay, thanks a lot for letting me know! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @crazywelshman5909
    @crazywelshman5909 Před 4 lety

    hi sams trains love you videos and content im from wales and love steam engines. you have inspired me by doing content about model trains and i love it-thanks (diolch/ thank you in welsh)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks so much mate, and that's so lovely to hear!! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

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      @crazywelshman5909 Před 4 lety

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  • @phil36310
    @phil36310 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for showing Sam. Sadly another Ready To Repair. I have one with sound and had to isolate the speaker plus the work on the front and rear bogie. Very nice model that needs added weight in the boiler. (See some reviews here on YT ) and then she becomes a rocket. Amazing how this goes in production and is commercialized with flaws in the mechanical design !! Mr Adam's is turning himself in his grave !! A real shame. Cheers, filip

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Filip, yes a bit of a shame with this one. Sorry to hear you've had a faff too - not the best design on this one for sure!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran Před 4 lety +1

    I hope Project Genesis eventually makes some East Kent Railway coaches to go with this engine!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      That would be fantastic actually - might have to put a suggestion in!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @georgetimperley8906
    @georgetimperley8906 Před 4 lety

    Loverly engine, it's a great shame about the motor, I hope the problem is fixed. Its a shame the standard gauge engine hasn't run since 1990, I live very close to the bluebell, I would love to see it back. Well done great video 👍

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks George - yeah hopefully I'll be able to find some better motors one day! I'd love to see her back too! :3
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @codymarshall2540
    @codymarshall2540 Před 4 lety

    Great video. You could get the hornby adams radial 488 or any types of adams radial locomotives that they have. Just saying. Keep up the good work.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Cody - yes I'd love to try one of those!! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @RobA500
    @RobA500 Před 4 lety

    I have one in the preserved green livery which I got for just £66 at a model rail exhibition, they are exquisite looking models. So far I think it is still running ok but I will be keeping a close eye on it. I may consider your tip with the front bogie as I have already worked a bit on the rear pony wheel. I removed the rear wheels which had a minimal springy action and with a small round needle file took a little more material out of the axle slots. It was really the tiniest of amounts as there isn't much to play with just taking the top of the curve flush with the plate the springs are in. This was enough to cure an issue at a start of an incline giving the wheels a little more spring movement. Out of curiosity how do yours run with the gauge master controller?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Rob - don't get me wrong, I'm sure they won't all fail! It is worth giving the spring a trim, since it's quite simple to do! Good thought removing some of the axle slot - glad to hear it improved the issue for you! I don't think I've tested these on the Gaugemaster actually - that's an interesting thought!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @jacobhampshire1181
    @jacobhampshire1181 Před 4 lety

    It's cool how the one you have got is the same number and livery as the one that is preserved

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah it is cool - glad Oxford Did that! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @jacobhampshire1181
      @jacobhampshire1181 Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains makes it at least a bit better

  • @bartsroga6372
    @bartsroga6372 Před 3 lety

    Hello Sam. I had the same motor problem with a Roco locomotive. Did you try to clean the commutator and the brushes? Sometimes the oil is going there and causing problems.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      I sure have Bart - though this one isn't very easy to access! I've cleaned out the lubrication from the rest of the gear train, which seems to have improved things a bit!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the tip about the pony truck and its spring. I will do this on mine, I'm expecting it to arrive this friday. Hope I would not have issues with the motor, but I've got mine for GBP 64 at Hattons (Southern black model), so, I can take the chance...
    Anyway, it seems that it is mostly a quality issue on the batch of motors they had bought. If it would be an innapropriate mecanism, that would affect ALL the production batch, and not some locomotives at random. It is my opinion and I may be wrong but, now, I know what to look for in priority (get a box of paper handkerchieves next to me to be able to proper smell if mine is ok or have the same perfume as a forrest wildfire after five minutes of running half throttle) when I would run mine on my test track.
    I'll be back in a few days to let you know if I consider my copy ready for service or good to cross the Channel a second time directily down to Liverpool. Crossing fingers now !

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      No problem mate, hope it works for you too! That price is very reasonable - though you can always return it if the performance isn't good!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @OlivierGabin
      @OlivierGabin Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains Short story : motor burned out after two hours of running time at slow speed in both directions as my usual run-in procedure. And it was really running awfully slow ! I am dealing with Hattons to have a delay to send them back, I cannot do it right now (post office does not take parcels right now to international locations due to workforce limitations). I will try to swap it for the Hornby model, which is a little bit more expensive. Seems Oxford Rail had put a batch of defective motors in their locomotives...
      At last, I would not have a model that works at random, and whose performances get worse day by day until broken...

  • @graemekey819
    @graemekey819 Před rokem

    I've eventually got my hands on one of these with the 2 small Wagons ........Hornby HM2000 = hot motor buzzing and crawl.
    Bachmann train set type comfort= fast with loads of torque.
    Is this loco fitted with coreless motor that cannot work on feedback type pulse DC controllers? Did you find out what type of motor they have Sam? Cheers!

  • @thestandardfour0699
    @thestandardfour0699 Před 3 lety

    I have seen the Adams tank in the EKR Green at the NRM, she isn't in the best state at the moment. I was going to get an Oxford Adams tank, its a shame the motor gave way. I bought a hornby br black version instead. Thanks for the info! - TSF06

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      Thanks a lot for sharing - would be amazing to see her restored one day!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @cameronmcilroy8261
    @cameronmcilroy8261 Před 4 lety

    Really nice looking train there. I fancied an Adams Radial myself but I'm not going to get one because of the motor problems and I don't want to risk it

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Cameron! Yes that's understandable - though the Hornby ones seem to be much better, if you really wanted one! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @davidsheriff8989
    @davidsheriff8989 Před 2 lety

    Can you change the motors on many engines for stronger dipole?

  • @Maypop64
    @Maypop64 Před 4 lety +1

    God, your reviews are so entertaining. I wish I could have a little model railway but it's a bit too expensive. Oh well. Hope you have a good say Sam! PS: Only reason I even know of Adams is because of the RWS.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks so much my friend! Yes they are very expensive - it's a real shame :(
      Oh yes of course - I've heard about Adam before! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @upwellonwards7373
    @upwellonwards7373 Před 4 lety

    prices might of dropped in the uk but in NZ their still 360nzd thats quite alot for a dcc ready loco but out of the adams radial tanks im tempted to see how a hornby radial would compare??? but on the plus side oxford do make beautifully detailed models and i love how finely detailed they are with only 1 issue which is the coupler seems to slip out of the dove tail socket but im sure is does not compare to the lovely N7 tank

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Blimey, yeah never pay that for them - especially with the faults! It would be great to try a Hornby one too! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @mattapacka54
    @mattapacka54 Před 4 lety +2

    I just came up with an idea:Atlantic running session!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Awesome!! Once I have a few more, I'll definitely try it! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @leroyholm9075
    @leroyholm9075 Před 3 lety +1

    What a usefull video with a nice fault fix. it is shame that the motor is so weak

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      Thanks a lot - yeah the motors truly let these down :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @callumb1049
    @callumb1049 Před 4 lety +1

    I was at a model railway fair yesterday and I actually nearly bought one of them but watching this I am glad I didn't get one

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha glad to hear that mate - no not a reliable model this one :(

    • @lukeslocomotives
      @lukeslocomotives Před 4 lety

      I was at one in October 2019 and walked out with a Standard 4 4-6-0 and a black 5 4-6-0 (75073 + 44666) as well as a book about the standards and the austerities

  • @Trija204
    @Trija204 Před 4 lety

    Wow, it’s a funny coincidence that your model of the Adam’s Radial Tank Engine has the exact same colour scheme as the only remaining real life Adam’s Radial Tank Engine!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah absolutely - it's the same livery! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @craigthelej
    @craigthelej Před 3 lety

    In the thomas universe The E K R is the Elsbridge and Knapford Railway before pre-grouping. (before the big four)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      Ooh really?! I never knew that! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Kris-qy7hh
    @Kris-qy7hh Před 4 lety +1

    1) Is it possible to drill a small hole down the funnel in order to have more ventilation to the motor?
    2) Is it possible to put a tiny fan inside of it next to the motor so it can at least cool the engine a bit?
    3) BEAUTIFUL loco! It’s just let down by its motor, which is a shame. And great video too!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Hey Kris - I'm sure that would be possible, but the motor isn't directly underneath the funnel, and I don't know how big a difference it'd make.
      The overheating problem I think is due to the unsuitability of the motor for this application - it'd be best to find a replacement if anything!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @Kris-qy7hh
      @Kris-qy7hh Před 4 lety

      Sam'sTrains oh! I get it. A replacement seems like the better option 🤣

  • @davidfromborneo259
    @davidfromborneo259 Před 4 lety

    Sam, send it to Oxford Rail and see what happens. Nothing to lose. I sent a Pendolino motor coach back to Hornby that I dropped and it got smashed. Guess what? Unbelievable, they replaced the body no charge! Same with Roco, damaged loco, repaired it again no charge. These locos were a few years old as well! Give it a try, nothing to lose?!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      But I've had it for so long, I doubt they'd accept it! Blimey, that's very good of Hornby! I do know a guy at Oxford, might be worth asking I suppose!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @nyooom7467
    @nyooom7467 Před 4 lety +2

    I just looked at this andMYGOODNESS ITS SO CUTE
    Thanks for reviewing this
    -David

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Cheers mate! Yes it is very cute! :3
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @WestRail642fan
    @WestRail642fan Před 4 lety

    yes it is an Atlantic, Atlantic is just the name of the wheel configeration, regardless of tender loco or not

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot for this - appreciate the tip! :D

  • @castlejunction1707
    @castlejunction1707 Před 4 lety

    It was all the reported problems that prevented me from buying this....otherwise it's a beautiful engine.....Oxford Rail has certainly learnt from this in that they are producing fantastic models....love my N7.....thanks Sam....

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I think you were wise to be honest - but they certainly have improved greatly over this last year! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @leonardosanchez3155
    @leonardosanchez3155 Před 4 lety

    It can be classified as an Atlantic as the LB&SCR built 3 types of 4-4-2 and those were classified as Atlantic tanks and as well as the GNR who built some of there own

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Duly noted Leonardo - thanks for that! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @pettra1
    @pettra1 Před 2 lety

    Change the motor? Apparently, they are fitted with a 5 pole motor (saw this on the Oxford Rail website). Hope that helps.
    Best, Pete.

  • @olliemckprice9428
    @olliemckprice9428 Před 4 lety

    I’m sorry I’m late again I was at the bluebell railway love the video
    -Ollie

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Wow that's awesome Ollie, did you have a good time?! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @olliemckprice9428
      @olliemckprice9428 Před 4 lety

      Sam'sTrains yes it was amazing

  • @MRacer001
    @MRacer001 Před 4 lety

    I just bought one of these at a model train exhibition today, any word of Oxford rail have fixed these issues on the newer ones?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I'm not certain Michael - they may have done - I'd test it and see!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @nickelplatenerd6989
    @nickelplatenerd6989 Před 4 lety

    That tank engine is better known to me as Adam, he's one of the Middies off of Victor Tanzig's "Stories of Sodor"!

  • @christhorpejunction8982

    Nice model, although there is a glaring mould seam running over on the boiler. The running is a shame, everything else great and yes it led us to the glorious N7 for which we give many thanks.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yes that's true - though I must say it's much more noticeable on camera than it is in person!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @lloydi
    @lloydi Před 4 lety

    I have a br black radial from Oxford. Haven't had a single issue with her and my track is in appalling condition at the moment

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear yours was much better - sounds like you got a good one! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @vlogthatrain3152
    @vlogthatrain3152 Před 4 lety

    I had a few issues with my dean goods pickups when I got it. Seems oxford have a few teething troubles occasionally. Might be worth eventually fitting a new motor? One of your own choice

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah - my first Dean Goods didn't work either! Luckily they got the N7 right! Sadly it's not easy to find suitable motors for these :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @HighOutlook
    @HighOutlook Před 4 lety

    darn, that looks great, I am going to build one in space engineers, as a tram.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha that'd be awesome! :D

    • @HighOutlook
      @HighOutlook Před 4 lety

      its looking great sofar, sadly I had an explosion on another part of the line and I am stuck over their. :(

  • @KristofferEk
    @KristofferEk Před 4 lety

    well even if it fails it's pretty to look at so you could stand it parked half way in a shed and I know you'd rather have a loco running but what is one to do if the motor goes?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah that's very true - great to look at, but not great to run! Then again, you wouldn't want to pay that much for a static model!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @formulafish1536
    @formulafish1536 Před 4 lety

    Would it be possible to retrofit a better motor into it to test whether it is a motor issue or some other flaw with the power conversion or the mechanism?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I've looked into it - as of yet I've not found a suitable replacement, but it should be possible!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)