Which Bible Characters are Historical?
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BIBLICAL GENEALOGY SERIES:
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Episode 1: Which Bible Characters are Historical?
• Which Bible Characters...
Episode 2: Adam to David
• Video
Episode 3:- Kings of Israel & Judah
• Kings of Israel & Juda...
Episode 4: Maccabees & Herod
• Maccabees & Herodians ...
Episode 5: Genealogy of Jesus
• Genealogy of Jesus
Episode 6: Responding to Comments
• Responding to Comments...
RECOMMENDED READING:
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The Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein & Neil Asher Silberman:
www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthe...
From Eden to Exile by Eric H. Cline:
www.amazon.com/Eden-Exile-Unr...
The Oxford History of the Biblical World:
www.amazon.com/Oxford-History...
The Lost Art of Scripture: Rescuing the Sacred Texts by Karen Armstrong
www.amazon.com/Lost-Art-Scrip...
CREDITS:
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Chart & Narration: Matt Baker
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Editing: Syawish Rehman & Jack Rackam
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Intro music: "Lord of the Land" by Kevin MacLeod and licensed under Creative Commons Attribution license 4.0.
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If humans evolved from Ethiopia then the world's greatest civilization should have been found in Africa,Why in Mesopotamia?maybe the garden of Eden is true or maybe the flood(noah) was true
I’d be very interested in seeing your opinion on the Qurans history. They say it was brought to Mohamed just before the Muslim caliphate started conquering land. I would really like to know if there is any historical accuracy to it.
I’m an Egyptian male that was raised in the US. I was born in Alexandria and have been in NJ ever since the age of 4. I wonder what Egypt would be like today if it stayed under Roman rule. Anyways please somehow let me know if you ever decide to do a video about the Qurans historical accuracy.
I’m not religious just curious
My brother please , can you do a video of historical places in the bible...please🙏🙏🙏
Surely Balaam's talking donkey was a real historic figure. The only thing left for historians to debate is whether or not his voice sounded like Eddie Murphy.
This comment made my day 😂😂😂
A talking donkey was placed on the movie because it was considered to be a fairy tale creature. Do I smell dreamworks backing off from the Prince of Egypt era??
It was a she-ass, so I’d say it would have sounded like Rasputia.
@@CCI320 It is the very definition of magic. An impossibly irrational event that defies logic and reason for no actual reason. It just spontabeously occurs like a fart and fades into the background.Saying let there be light and out of nowhere there just is is the same as saying bibidibabidiboo and out of nowhere a pumpkim turns into a carriage wagon
@@matiaspereyra9375 why can’t there be things that our just out of the human realm that we can’t fully understand or control. What’s wrong with saying we don’t know everything and some things we can’t explain cause it’s out of our current understanding.
Note: "Palestine" is used in this video in the *geographic* sense, not as a reference to any political entity, past or present. This is similar to how the term "The Americas" can be used, even when speaking about pre-Columbian history. In future, I think I will use the term "Southern Levant" instead in order to avoid any more confusion.
love the episodes!
Can't wait for part 5
Thanks!
Still waiting for India patiently...
I AM READY
Whether mythical or legendary, what I like about the stories in the Torah is that most of the characters are completely human (as opposed to godlike or supernatural). They do great things, but they also make terrible errors of judgment that get them in trouble with their families and their God. I also appreciate that there are many stories about strong, brave, and intelligent women. Even when they are vilified, it's interesting to consider their actions from a less biased point of view.
I was reading an article just a few days ago about women in ancient Israel, it said that women could get an education, work, make money, hold their family name, etc.. It wasn't until the Greeks influenced them to think misogynisticly and see women as inferior.
@@manuelalineaerika Do you remember where you read the article? There's a book I really enjoyed that was written by a female rabbi about the women of the Jewish bible (what Christians call the Old Testament). I don't remember the exact title. One of the main points she made was that even though women did not have the same power as men during that time, the scriptures never say it is because they are inferior to men. In fact, there are many times when they are shown to be braver and wiser, or even the saviors of the Jewish people.
The last group of proverbs (in the book Proverbs) also describes the "ideal" women as being very industrious, having her own business, being well-respected by important men in the town, and generally being confident, as well as being a good mother and wife. And Jewish heritage is passed down through the mother's side.
Bro there has been an archeological discovery called the moabite stone. In which king Mesha at those time has mentioned about the 'tribe of Gad'. Tribe of Gad is one of the 12 tribes Moses brought from Egypt. So without the exodus events and Moses there cannot be a tribe of Gad.And tel dan inscriptions about David was written 150 years after his death by an enemy king Hazael . So i dont think David and Solomon were normal tribe leaders.
God itself is a flawed character...
That is. because God only has normal people to work with. You hear about Patton's great tactics at the Buldge, you don't hear about him dying in a fender bender, or any other mundane part of his life. Or mistakes he made. That's why the Bible rings so true compared to other religions. Aside from Christ, who is GOD in flesh, the "heroes" of the Bible are not perfect men or women. They are just trying to serve God and their mistakes are to ensamples/examples for us.
I paused video to say , this channel is literally the hidden gem of youtube
imagine if you travelled 4000 years into the future and they write a story about kim jong un ruling a united korea with seoul as its capital
Not with the internet, but I understand the humor xD
Something something South Korean demographic collapse within less than a century.
@@eapooda I don't find it likely that what we call the internet will survive 4000 years, or what is written on paper.
@@johanmalm8378 but even minor historical events will be registred
No. Imagine what the they would have learned from the historical records of President Trumps Presidency, the origin of the China Virus, and the 2020 US Presidential elections. They would have learned complete bullshit .... from the fake news media.
Likewise with the ancient records from Egypt, where you have butt hurt god king that was forced to set the Israelites free. He's not going to have the writers on the ancient text tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. LMFAO.
I like how you included Arabic and Hebrew names too. You really consider everyone, not just Western viewers. Thank you
Saudi Arabia has western culture. So does Turkey.
@@Hypie582 That's not what he meant.
HypieTV yes that’s why women were only allowed to drive recently (because of western culture). Warning: might contain traces of sarcasm
Yes, there are people who belive the arabic knock off, from judeasim. Who don't use the correct names. Just like the romans used the wrong name. It will allways be Poseidon, not Neptune.
@@Hypie582 No it does not. Turkey isn't relevant in this conversation.
One aspect that is not mentioned so much, is that mythology and legends can be stories passed by with the «game of whispers» oral stories passed on from generation to generation until there are little reality left, but still based on something.
Idk about little reality left but they usually preserve salient points of the stories
It's probably not mentioned much because that is an absolutely stupid idea. Important religious stories are absolutely nothing like a word in game of whispers. In religious stories, you don't whisper them to people with the intent of them mistaking it, and it is not considered a game, it is considered important history or religious belief. Ancient people also probably didn't have mich to do so would have told the stories in detail.
Many of the stories were probably made into poems which became popular and may have been memorised by other poets.
@@speedwagon1824 "Ancient people also probably didn't have mich to do " And you base this on what? What is your field of expertise on ancient cultures? You think they sat around all day with nothing to do? I would say they were just as busy as we are today and probably more so. They had little modern conveniences so it took them longer to do the same things we do today that we take for granted with our modern technology. As for telling stories in detail....did you ever play the "telephone game" when you were in school? If you have no idea what I am talking about look it up. Let's say you, me and a few other people are in a room. I tell you a story. You tell it to the person next to you and he tells it to the person next to him and so on. With just a few people the story I told you will not be the same as the one the last guy was told. That's with just a few people within a few minutes. Now spread that story over hundreds of years before someone finally writes it down. The story will be very different than the one first told.
@@speedwagon1824 Whether a story is important or not means nothing when passed along by word of mouth. Something will still get screwed up. Have you ever had a job where important information is passed along or you had to give a detailed message to someone that was important? You better have written it down right away because I guarantee that if you did not you will have messed something up. Add multiple people to the chain of information passing who didn't write it down and you will have something very different than what you started with.
@@ravilcn I mean they wouldn't have sat looking at their phones like today, and would have listened to traditional stories for entertainment
Achilles, while being thought of as 'legend', it is remarkable to me that all these years later, his deal to be remembered throughout the ages has held true.
kind of amazing, really.
It's almost like he's a figure in a story meant to explore that specific idea.
I just want to make it perfectly clear that my comment isn't meant to attack or insult you because the heavy sarcasm could make it look like it. But since this is me writing and not speaking to you the sarcastic undertones cannot be conveyed by my voice and thus I have to be very heavy handed with the sarcasm in order for the intended meaning to be correctly understood.
Great stuff. "The Bible Unearthed" is one of my favorite intros to the archaeology of the Bible.
I highly recommend that everyone subscribe to ReligionForBreakfast.
Great channel, helped me a lot with worldbuiling
I was wondering what you would think of this video.
This channel made me realize that I would have been a religious studies major in a closely related parallel universe.
It is also worth noting that there are 2 rivaling schools in the Israeli Biblical Archaeology, represented by Israel Finkelstein (Tel-Aviv Univ.) mentioned here and Yosef Garfinkel (Jerusalem Univ.) (ironically, they share the same element 'finkel' in their surnames :) ). Finkelstein insists that David and Solomon were mere tribal chieftains, if existed at all, and there was no such powerful and organised statehood as the Kingdoms of Judea and Israel (Biblical minimalism?), while Garfinkel tries to provide more archaeological confirmations for the Biblical narrative.
I can see why you were so nervous to make this video. I’m very excited for the rest of the series. Keep up the great work!
cantpickauser Yeah, people just love to go batshit over a book
I haven't even finished the video but I love it. You are so polite and concise explaining things.
Absolutely love this it's clear, concise and informative, not to mention respectful! I also greatly appreciate that you've listed the dates for the other videos in this series. Thank you
As a lifelong Christian, I really appreciate your stance and intentions being stated very clearly at the beginning. Yet another wonderful video, and I eagerly await the rest! ^_^
Do you worship on sundays? Do you rest on sundays?
Saturday (I’m Seventh-Day Adventist), but yes, I worship and rest on that day.
but this video is against what you believe.
MC Muhyeon while you’re not wrong, I’m still open to discussing with or listening to (which is more appropriate in this case) others who hold beliefs different from mine, especially differing perspectives on the same thing (in this case, biblical historical records). Just because we believe different things doesn’t mean we can’t talk to each other :)
@@jessicablaza5780
but Bible say Bible is the only truth. according to this video, Bible is just mix of history and myth.
Look at Levi, getting his own lil' paragraph, you go my dude!
Levi is a very special boy. His tribe may have not gotten any land, but they got to be priests or something similar
But which other son of Israel got his own trousers named for him? :D
@@Ugly_German_Truths -- Good one!! 😁👍
That'd be my brother Wrangler.
KENNYYYYYYYY
Thank you for making this! All the videos I search for are either all bible or all history and I’ve been trying to see how they are connected for so long
I really appreciate you taking the time to work with something so delicate to most of the faithful.
Okay let's put aside religion for a minute and just appreciate how well edited and made this video was. Please continue with this style of video!
Edit: I'd just like to say thank you very much to everybody who's liked this. We have a little bit less of the amount of likes the pinned comment has, and that's just crazy, I know that 700 and something likes aren't a whole lot, but compared to the pinned comment that is always seen first, I'm just blown away.
Just a great video all around.
Agree.
Throughout the whole video I kept admiring the quality of the video and audio
i love thé editing
Matt Horkan Cause he does not want War of Argument with people and wants to appreciate the masterpiece of editing
Man, I need like 5 more hours of this
Love the idea that people can write history to serve their current goals. I can imagine how the idea of an old unified kingdom provoked nostalgic feelings of something that never existed.
Provoking nostalgic feelings for something that never existed has been the bread and butter of social conservative movements ever since then
I miss back in the olden days before people provoked nostalgic feelings for a time that never existed to promote their own political goals 😭😭😭
You don’t have to imagine at all, that’s basically how Nazi Germany motivated it’s People
It's like the classic "Let's make (insert your country name here) great again!".
@@patrickrowan6001 you mean 5 billion years ago
You did a fantastic job at summarizing the historical and archeological info we have on this and presenting it in a very accessible way 👏👏👏👏
As an orthodox Jew who believes fully in the stories of the old testament i want to say, thank you and don't be nervous to continue creating content like this i enjoyed it and found it very interesting
What exactly is an Orthodox Jew? Are you ethnic Jew with Eastern Christian faith or a Jew living in a Orthodox nation?
Sargent Cold Country Orthodox Judaism is a type of Judaism where the followers of the faith are very religious and more observant than other branches of Judaism. There is more to it in terms of traditions and culture but I’m a Conservative Jew myself so I can’t speak for them completely and don’t want to make mistakes out of my ignorance. Just know that it has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
Why do you call it the “Old Testament”? I’ve only heard secular Jews and some reform Jews call it that 🤔
Kyle Perlman that’s not necessarily true. Orthodox Judaism is just traditional Judaism. Aka, they believe in keeping all traditional laws and rituals, including niddah, which the Conservative movement doesn’t put a huge emphasis on. Orthodox Jews also believe the Torah is the literal word of G-d, whereas Conservative Judaism is less dogmatic about the origin of the Torah. However, there are Orthodox Jews who eat treif, violate shabbos, etc., and there are conservative Jews who keep kosher and keep Shabbat (to conservative standards, so... *not* kosher or shomer shabbos by most orthodox standards). Orthodox =/= “observant and religious”.
YeetusThatFetus You’re right. I just wasn’t sure how to phrase it. Again, I’m Conservative and am hesitant to speak for an entire sect that I’m not even part of.
I think you missed a chance to plug your Ethiopian Emperors family tree, since that one starts from Solomon. But maybe you were going to mention that in one of the later videos of this series.
Those habesha are liars bro first it was the Tigrey then Amhara which claimed the the Gala Oromo as the last king was an Oromo Gala man. Free Ogadeen
How could he plug that, it was just Mythology that Solomon existed... SMH !! that’s why i can’t take his biblical videos serious.. he’s so off base with his liberal mindset of Pre-Historic existence. He needs to stick to the History that we all know happened.
@Lewa263😂 you're right. I'm guessing he didn't do so since he's already made a video on that. I think it's called Ethiopian Emperors (Solomonic Dynasty). Do give that a watch and hopefully it answers your statement. 😁👍
Knowing this channel, he surely will
@@derekchesterton5645 That's what I meant, he could have linked to that video at the end of this one because they're connected.
Great video, it has put into context several things I have long mused over as well as fill in some big gaps. I look forward to the follow up videos.
I don’t know how I came across your channel, but I’m glad I did! This is some great content! Thanks!
I truly appreciate how hard you're trying not to piss people off. Good work
Lmao. Calls it "mythology" within the first, like, minute
CrownOfLeon I bet you couldn‘t even differ between History, Mythology and Legend, before etching the Video further
@@michelmorio8026 What are you on about? He literally could've just made a video saying "these are the characters that we have historical records of" and that's that. But instead, he went off and made a political statement calling some of the bible a mere legend and mythology, as if worshipers of Christ don't exist in the year 2020. Maybe in the nihilist dystopia that this ignorant man lives in that's the case. However, we have the right to object to his ignorance.
@@TheWazzoGames And we have the right to roll our eyes when the exact people he's talking about in his pinned comment show up in the comments sections to spread nonsense.
I don't suppose you're going to make the "case" that Job wasn't mythology? It's straight mythology even within the context of a Bible where everything else hypothetically happened. The Bible being absolutely 100% grounded in historical fact is just as factually true as saying the Texas state Constitution reserves the right to secede from the United States whenever it wants. In other words, it isn't true, not even when discounting many of the obvious parts where it blatantly isn't true, and anyone with a functioning pair of eyes and basic reading ability can see that.
Yeah, I hate it when presenters do that.
I laughed when you used the Michigan state and USC logos for Spartans and Trojans
Seamus Connolly: Well at least he didn’t use the famous condom brand.
That's the other USC that is the Trojans. The real USC is the University of South Carolina Gamecocks. We were a college almost half a century before California was even a state.
@@ronald3419 lol who cares
@@ronald3419 Fight on! USC
This video was excellent, thank you! Looking forward to the rest of the series. 👍
This is great! Just what I was looking for. Thank you so much for putting it together.
If only time machines existed. I want to travel to the past were these events exists and know the truth before I die.
This is also what I've wanted to do too
We will all know the truth after we die
That’s what I’ve always wanted to do. Always.
You will know the truth, after you die. At least, if you believe in every part of it now. :D
I wanna see deformed animal-human hybrids with many eyes and two sets of wings approach me and say "do not fear"
I am an atheist but find religious history fascinating and important. I am often astounded that many Christians don’t know their own history or roots or even how or why they ended up being Christian.
As a christian I agree with you about christains not knowing history. "Church history started with Billy Graham" (sarcasm). Unfortunately we have some very bad historians Dan Brown for example. Dan Brown said his book was fiction but 5 years later "The Lost Gospel" says that most of the stuff was true. There is so much bad history that it turns off christians from studying it. Like the council of nicea was about the Bible, invented the trintiy (not defined trinity), apollo's affair with a human woman inspired the virgin Mary, any god that is born not the normal human sexual way is a virgin birth, etc. If you want to get published just say: gospel of ..., the real Jesus, what really happened at (some controversial religious site). Serioulsy, If you want a good story read the Tailor King ( The story of muenster germany). The cages are still on the church, today.
The vast majority of people are mindless robots with little desire or curiosity to learn how they got to where they are.
big mood
As a Christian, I agree
Religious History isn't just Fascinating, it's important, and is a major influence on how people view the world
I actually go out of my way to learn about the Histories of other faiths as well, because of the role it plays in our world
@@scotthix2926 Now be fair. Church history didn't start with Billy Graham. It started when God personally set the type for the King James Version of the Bible . (For some reason the "version" part of it seems to get overlooked.)
Stumbled on your channel a few days ago really interesting stuff from the monarchy charts to the biblical charts! Enjoy listening to it while cleaning around the house.
This is great stuff. You take a complex subject, keep it interesting, and don't waste words. Good job.
"I'll delve into that at a later date" ... the pain
PAIN!
You want pain? Try waiting for Revelation.
Thank you for using the more accurate image of Jesus. I’m tired of people depicting him as a blue-eyed white guy when he lived in the Middle East.
@transylvanian well, Christianity is one of three Abrahamic faiths. Which all began in the Middle East.
@transylvanian
You living under a rock?
There is evidence he existed.
Whether the other details are true is not known.
And I'm tired of people claiming he was black too.
Middle-Easterners are not black.
Stfu Edie
@transylvanian Actually we have as much evidence as we would expect for a first century Jewish preacher in the ghetto of the Roman Empire -- Messiah or no Messiah.
Thanks for making this, it was really informative and well presented. As a former evangelical christian who has struggled a lot in the past with determining the lines between truth and fiction in religion I appreciate your balanced view on all of this. To any future watchers, don't delve too deep into this comment section, it gets real silly real fast.
pclkid - I hope you find your way through the history and the legend in religion. I'm a Christian, but I don't take the bible literally, otherwise I would have to struggle a lot, too.
Agreed .... very well presented overview and information. Thanks for posting this.
Commenter decides what's silly
The comments are why I am here!
It does.
I love your charts, Matt, they're truly helpful & amazing 👍
While the Deluge obviously is mythology, the Noah story probably originated with the Sumerians. The details and names vary, but pretty much the same story was retold several times across the centuries. It may have begun with an actual river flood dated to 2900 BC, that ended the Jemdet Nasr archeological culture, and preceded the Early Dynastic Period. The Sumerian king list names Ziusudra as the last pre-flood king, but his dynasty is so far back that it was legend already by the time the list was made. It is simply impossible that the Noah story is true, but it is still interesting that there may be a tiny core there that can be traced back to an actual Mesopotamian flood.
Correct. And the Sumerian “Noah” lived in Shuruppak, a 5000 year old city whose mudbrick buildings lie under a layer of river sediment, a sign the city was devastated by a river flood.
From what I know many cultures, some of them very far from each other, have myths of a "great flood", this makes some what historically possible that around those time climate change disasters may have occurred and were "registered" in all those same myth.
Of course there is also moral meaning to the story of the flood itself so it may be a combination of both real climate events and religious dogmas.
Stimorolication read the Epic of Gilgamesh for the earliest know flood story. The Biblical story is strikingly similar.
@@stephenbarrett8861 The Toltecs (from ancient Mexico) and Chinese also have flood myths that are very similar to the Genesis account. Sumer doesn't adequately explain all of these unless all of these cultures came from Sumer as well (which, btw, aligns with the biblical account more than cultures archaeology does). Let's also not forget the Greek Atlantis story.
If you believe Sumer is the origin for Noah, you should also have to believe the ancient Americans and Chinese came from Sumer post-2900 BC, which is definitely contrary to the opinions of archaeologists (settling of the Americas is postulated to be 10-100k years ago).
My opinion is that all of these myths are handed-down versions of the same event and that all of humanity probably came from Sumer, at least post-deluge. I don't much care for archaeological speculation. I consider the mythical record far more compelling in anthropology as there are far less assumptions made by the observer.
@@taripar4967 You know other places can get floods too right
Thank you for having a down-to-earth, historical and scientific stance on this subject. Some people are not going to be happy, though.
Scientific? What is scientific about an *_argument from silence?_* The scientific approach would be that it is not well substantiated if certain individuals existed as described, you wouldn't just decide they didn't exist because it suits your world view. This video is tripe propaganda, misleading people about what a proper academic approach would be.
Van Ivanov Well by the same token you can’t say that they did exist because it fits your worldview. Which is why certain biblical characters are correctly placed in the category of Legend or Myth. The onus is on you to provide extra-biblical evidence for their existence, like the later Israelite kings have and why they are correctly placed as being historical.
That was a comment meant to antagonise and praise your white lab jacket priests of scientism.
@@Emcee_Squared Incorrect. An attestation is an attestation and we don't get to ignore it because we can't find other attestations. In contrast, *no* attestation at all means nothing. Arguments from silence tend to be built on the presuppositions and biases of the observer, not exegeted from the text or historical record itself. This makes it a begging the question argument that assumes its own conclusion.
Most of history (arguably all) is built on claims and witnesses to events and people. Even a coin on the ground with the name of a king, regardless of whether there is any other source for his life, is regarded as evidence (if not proof) he was historical. People write books. People make coins. People carve stones. All written records are testimonial. The earliest text source we have for Alexander the Great, for example, post-dates his reign by 500 years and claims to use sources we don't have, which means we can't actually verify Arrian's Anabasis or Indica. But, this hasn't stopped scholars from accepting the text as authentic. Why? Well, I don't actually know, but if I had to guess I'd say if they began to doubt the historicity of Alexander, most if not all of history would go with him.
There is a HARD bias against any religious document (pagan or otherwise) in modern scholarship, purely because the majority of scholars who peddle the mainstream teachings are irreligious or blatantly atheistic in their worldview. This is why Muslim scholars and Christian scholars tend to agree on the historicity of Adam and Eve whereas a current-year atheist or naturalist will disregard them as mere mythology (and this is because all claims of divine-intervention, no matter their plentiful attestation, are to be regarded as impossible). Notice the Muslims and Christians in this scenario are working from the text itself, whereas the atheist is back-forming his own worldview into the text with an a priori conclusion that it is faulty.
Lastly, Heracles (Hercules) was considered a literal and historical king of Greece until sometime in the Middle Ages. There are tons of ancient historians talking about him as a once-king with no doubt to his existence or reign. Yet we now disregard him because we have the arrogance to believe we know how to dissect truth from myth, not even understanding that what we now consider myth was once believed to be historical.
Perhaps myths too are history. I don't know the full implications of this. But it's weird that many myths seem to line up on basic truths (a catastrophic flood, the world being made from water, a divine race of beings existing, etc.).
Maybe we should be more humble when approaching the ancient past instead of explaining things away to maintain our worldview.
Taripar Certainly one can conclude all sorts of people and events as being historical if all they rely on are attestations (Adam and Eve, the splitting of the red sea by Moses, Jesus's resurrection, God creating the world in 6 days, the Iliad and the Odyssey), but if all you rely on are historical attestations, and you do not look at other disciplines such as science, physics, genetics, archaeology, and biology, then you will come up with faulty conclusions about the historicity of certain people and events.
We know that Adam and Eve never existed because when we refer to the mother and father of all living people, we refer to mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam respectively, two people who lived many tens of thousands of years apart and whose existence is inferred using hard genetic data and science.
Could there have at one point been a couple by the name of Adam and Eve, which lent their names to the biblical story? Sure.
Were they the parents of all living human beings? According to science, definitely not.
So when we say Adam and Eve, we are referring to characters in the Bible, who may or may not have had real life counterparts, but whom certainly were not the first man and woman that existed. So what the Bible refers to is DIFFERENT than what a well-informed student of science and other disciplines refer to.
This was a well laid out illustration of Biblical claims and timelines. I look forward to your next work covering the topic.
Wow- this makes so much sense. Thanks for putting this together!
I love your charts!! its very important for all of us to learn about everything objectively, keeping our biases and ideologies away..
As the saying goes: History Becomes Legend, and Legend Fades into Myth.
Let the Dragon ride again upon the Winds of Time...
and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
And Myth becomes memes
Unless you’re in America, where myth reigns supreme.
And from hearing a myth a man takes action, then he becomes legend himself, time goes on and he becomes myth...
Im a agnostic, this is one of the things ive been wondering about. Thank you for this. I cant wait for part 2
Same, agnostic squadron.
Bro there has been an archeological discovery called the moabite stone. In which king Mesha at those time has mentioned about the 'tribe of Gad'. Tribe of Gad is one of the 12 tribes Moses brought from Egypt. So without the exodus events and Moses there cannot be a tribe of Gad.And tel dan inscriptions about David was written 150 years after his death by an enemy king Hazael . So i dont think David and Solomon were normal tribe leaders.
I just found a new favourite channel. This is absolutely fantastic
A really well put-together and fascinating video that differentiates between myths, legends, and history!
Your definition of the Bible in the first minute is the best one I've come across. It is fair, balanced, and straightforward.
Im so excited for part 2 in the next couple of days !!
Outstanding lecture just like being in college
I appreciate the pace of your narration and explanation.
I am very grateful.
THANK YOU! It has been a long time that a "longer" and detailed video had me complaining at the end that it didn't continue! Keep up the good work!
Dude I am so glad I found your channel. It gives me a special place to geek out! And you cover topics exactly the way I like to learn. So, thank you soooo much for doing what you do!!!
Definitely respect how you open up with your personal beliefs as to make sure the viewers understand where you’re coming from. Although I disagree with some things you bring up and label, I still have great respect for someone who actively researches his/her views. Your effort to be as objective as possible is recognized and appreciated. Great work.
Great video. Educational and beautifully developed! Thanks for the endeavor.
You are the best! Thank you for giving my classroom these amazing resources!
I love this channel so much!! Could you please do Indonesian Ancient Kingdoms? Such asa Majapahit, Sriwijaya, etc.
Very nicely compiled video. You really cleared the mist that has been clouding my mind since my childhood. Thank you for your efforts.
what mist?
Wonderful video! Balanced and accurate! Please do more as very uplifting and revealing!
I am just speechless at the quality of your video. You really did a great job here, I learned A LOT from it, thank-you.
On the Trojan war, Homer references several cities that would have become uninhabited by the time when the Iliad is considered to have been written. Thus, at least a reasonable part of the cities list is considered true, although the account of the actual war has remained... under question
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Homeric_epics
Its because the illiad is about the moral mesage of the story, not the historical one
Homer also talks of the areas of Anetolia and southern Turkey... Gobekli Tepe is what 12,000 years old.. The Athenians believed in the Illiad not because Homer wrote it but because they believed it was their heritage... The golden age of that area, much like Zep Tepe in Egypt.
The BIG DIFFERENCE between the Bible and the writings of Homer, for example, is that no one sane asserts that Homer's writings are divinely inspired or"God's Words" .
@@Frank-mm2yp The Titan Mnemosyne and the Muses are typically invoked as inspirers of the Greeks.
@@Frank-mm2yp Apollo and the Oracles at Delphi ?.. The battle of Troy started over an Apple... that eventually led to Paris wanting Helen from Apheradite after selecting her as the farest godess.
This is my first ever comment on CZcams.
The work that you do on your channel is excellent. Thank you.
Your explanation of things is awesome!!!👍 half the time I don't understand what people are saying ,but I get you !,thank you!!
Love this video. Like every video you do, is serious, well documented, unbiased and beautifully edited. I want you as my teacher and I'm 30!!
I really hope you write a book series some day, with charts, maps etc. I would 100% read it xxxx
This was really concise & easy to understand. My first intended like & comment on this platform. Your scary intelligent sir.
Thank you for putting this together.
Catholic here: Always been told that the Bible is not supposed to be a historical account, but rather a theological account with real people/places, just as you stated in your introduction.
Edit: Due to some confusion, it should be noted that the New Testament (Life of Jesus and founding of the Church) are rather historical.
So, BS?
Flora Posteschild No. Its theological messages and themes are the important aspect, it isn’t supposed to be a history account.
Not to mention, sola scriptura is a relatively new concept. You can go as far back as St. Augustine of Hippo to find massive theological discussions on the nature of God which you really don't get when you treat the Bible as the end all be all. Even St. Thomas Aquinas quoted ancient Greek scholars even if he theologically disagreed with their pagan beliefs.
@@TheBigRedskull Well, it's a relief to learn that Jesus and Mary and so on can be pretty much any way you want them to be (Deo volente) anyway.
@Vseslav Levchenko True, but for comparison, Game of Thrones has about 120 named characters, and the Bible has 1,200 to 1,300 or so. And let's not even get into the sequel/crossover, the Koran.
These videos would shake the whole world up. Great work, n teaching
This was explained very well. I truly believe that those who insist on accepting every word of the Bible as literal truth, miss out on a broader understanding of real history.
When people insist that the Bible is the Word of God, I respond, 'perhaps, but I assume the must be some data entry and translation errors. After all we're talking about people here.
Some see my point as valid; some just seem kind of angry.
Believing the bible to be 100% accurate is useful. Catholics have a hierarchy that can decide what is true or acceptable. Congregationalists can use the bible like a constitution. If you don't have a person who's choice between possible alternatives must be followed then you can have a document. You still have arguments about what the document means, but you also have practical bounds that sub-groups can accept.
@@DavidSmith-kd8mw I'm pretty sure common sense can suffice for any pragmatic implications that taking the bible literally may have. Why would anyone need an old book to tell them something they have the capacity to learn before they can read?
@@demonlord8398 Why does any group need rules or an official leader? While it may not be 'needed', it is useful. On the other hand, I understand that you comment was mostly written as an insult or signal of personal superiority.
@@DavidSmith-kd8mw How is an imaginary leader useful? Real leaders do the actual work. Call me insulting and arrogant all you want but please clarify with pragmatism on the role of an imaginary overlord.
Thanks for the fascinating and informative video, and especially for the book recommendation! I look forward to checking it out! :-)
Great video. I think you did a great job of explaining the reasoning behind the massive difference in accuracy between the earlier and later portions. I also appreciate that you didn’t give the exodus story the “legend” tag as many might. Doing so would be inaccurate, as well as being an injustice to the genuine historical records that appear later
I recently discovered this channel and I must say, this is by far one of the BEST depictions of the historic nature of the ancient Hebrew Torah and the stories in it. I look forward to seeing your treatment of the New Testament and the stories associated with Christianity. Now what would be great to see is one on the Qu'ran. This is the way history should be presented with evidence and dispassionately. No need for you to fear to provide quantifiable truth to people. This is much needed in a time of alternative facts and belief overshadowing reason.
Excellent topic, and even better presentation. Thank you.
Very well done Matt. A very controversial subject that you handled respectfully and objectively. Year another great video!!
Kingdom of Israel: Gets destroyed by Assyria
Kingdom of Judah: It’s free real-estate!
Babylonian Empire: I’m about to end your career!
Cyrus the Great: haha Achaemenid Empire go brrrrr
1 day ago (edited)
Judah: Nooooo! You can't just destroy our kingdom when we wanted to conquer our vulnerable northern neighbor, noooooo!
Only that the Neo-Babylonian empire lasted less than a century, unlike it's predecessor (Assyrians) and successor (Persians).
Also Babylonian empire: NO you can't just end my carreer after I ended his carreer
Persian empire: Haha Babylony go brrr
Such a beautiful well put together series. I am very eager to see the rest !!
With this video you have now officially become my favorite You Tube Channel.
Hi Matt, I think you did a great job on this video and treated everybody with respect, believers or non-believers. My request, I just rewatched the Hobbit film trilogy and would love to see any Tolkien-related family tree. Thank you!
As someone who grew up going to a Lutheran school and is religious I appreciate how unbiased everything was presented. I understand how crazy certain parts of the bible are and that they dont make sense. The way you provided the information was based in facts, and what makes the most sense if not much was there, compared to emotion and personal opinion. Cant wait to see the other parts throughout the year and your other videos in general. Stay safe
...Yes, unbiased in the fact it matches your bias. Unbiased would have been effortless. "Here is the genealogy as according to the biblical account, as well as some additional secular documents." Instead, he wanted to make a political point, and call certain characters fictional. So, it is unbiased, if you think most of the world is wrong and should accept whatever the minority of Westerners decides, whatever truth suits them best. Atheists want no morals, and they want to believe they're better than their fathers, so of course the idea of Adam stirs them up.
@@vanivanov9571 Just including everyone of significance would be more biased. The video states who, according to the evidence we have currently, existed. The title is asking who has historical proof of being alive and merit behind their stories.
@@CapDogg14 unbiased? You stand for a man calling parts of the Bible mythology. The book that you supposedly believe in since you're religious. Maybe people like yourself call yourself Christian because of the historical value behind the word and that this has been the West's religion for a long time, but would a true Christian stand for this man calling it "mythology"?
@@TheWazzoGames I'm solely stating that he could have stated everything as false or everything as true, both of which are extremely biased. Of course I would prefer for him to state as everything to be true, however by the video taking the middle ground on the topic it avoids the extremes being the least biased option. The video is less about opinions and more about hard definitions and how each piece stacks up based on the current scientific evidence. I dont agree with everything, however respect the attempt on not placing personal beliefs on such a controversial topic
@@TheWazzoGames The parts of the Talmud he labels as "mythology" strictly meet the definition of "mythology" he gives in the video.
Fascinating and thanks for the book recommendation!
Well researched incldn using Bible unearthed..& great presentation 👍 as this's the 5th-6th vlog of your collections I watched(4 in 1.5 days too)& this tops them all. Next I'm watching asap, is Myths& Legends of Raamayanah& few more.
1st 1 or 2 your vlogs I probably watched 1+ yrs back, but this one& the SLanka's full history that i watched yesterday prompted me to dig a bit to see that you've bit of similarities (in up side down way lol) to me i.e I lived dozen+ yrs in SLA&IND then several dozens yrs in CDA now.
The Beconhill school in Nuverelia based on Beconfield of Montreal or Toronto? r u Ont or Que?
I like your contents & clarity of presentations...
Another interesting and well-made video Matt. Well done
i have watched 5 videos of this channel in a day. addicting information
Great info. I got the book "bible unearthed" and enjoyed it very much. Very informative
Love your work!! Looking forward to more.
This was very insightful, thank you.
4:11 Michigan State vs. USC Trojans
When he mentioned Homer with those emblems still on the screen, I was expecting Simpson's face to appear.
Excelent presentation! Thank you!
i was looking for a video just like this, thank you
Thank you for a great tree, as always!
It is also worth noting that there are 2 rivaling schools in the Israeli Biblical Archaeology, represented by Israel Finkelstein (Tel-Aviv Univ.) mentioned here and Yosef Garfinkel (Jerusalem Univ.) (ironically, they share the same element 'finkel' in their surnames :) ). Finkelstein insists that David and Solomon were mere tribal chieftains, if existed at all, and there was no such powerful and organised statehood as the Kingdoms of Judea and Israel (Biblical minimalism?), while Garfinkel tries to provide more archaeological confirmations for the Biblical narrative.
Thank you. Could you make a timeline of the philosophers? (I can help, I teach history of philosophy)
Real quick question but do you believe Socrates was a historical person or a character made by Plato?
@@fpp144 real
@@atharali1027 and yet there is no evidence he existed, only what Plato wrote about him, and Plato was known for making things up to give an example ex: Atlantis being the human ego and arrogance
@@fpp144 What about Aristophanes and Xenophon ?
I’d be so interested in the history of philosophy
Very informative.. clear and crisp! I like it!
It's just a perfect video) thank you a lot. It's extremely comprehensive for such a short format, great job!
I used be a fundamentalist, but half a year ago I became an atheist and I decided to find out what really happened then. So I've read the Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein, started studying history of middle east with a textbook for Universities and watched lots of lectures on these topics. And it's so cool to see such a video which is consistent with what I learned, so Im going to use for my fundamentalist mates for giving them a short overview of scientific data
I'm glad you have initiated your journey of knowledge! I was raised Christian but I never believed the Bible as 100% true. A few years ago I became atheist and now seeing fundamentalists makes me sad, because they believe in something which makes them uneducated. Sorry if I didn't express myself good, English is not my first language.
@@ikad5229 thanks for sharing, English isn't my first language either
As an atheist these videos are very interesting to me, im not religious obviously but i still have a fascination with religion as a whole.
1440 BC I heard some Christians say it’s 1174 BC
Wow! I don't think I've ever heard the story of the Bible explained so succinctly! Great video!
This was very understandable thank u for breaking it down... 💯
Amazing explanation. My eyes are opened.
Eh I'm just an atheist who loves a good story. Be it an ancient mythology, legend, fairy tale, or a modern sci-fi/fantasy book. And I love your channel because, whether it's a myth, legend or history, you always tell a great story that's easy to follow with your charts
Litterally everything past David is History so what is your point?
I am not a believer, but I remember learning at university that 19th century redaction criticism and later 20th century scholarship has established that parts of Samuel 2 and Kings 1 are based on an original document [now lost] written by a member of King David's court. While this does not prove that the 'unified' Kingdom of Israel was as rich and mighty as the Bible claims, it does prove that Kings David and Solomon actually existed and that they ruled over some kind of kingdom, however petty. So I would say they are both more to the historical rather than legendary side. Interesting stuff as always from your channel; thank you.
The reason the original document is now lost is because it was a forgery.
I'm not a fan of the German relativist theory. The 4 "original" documents this theory talks about were never found. It's a supposition.
This man requires a a great round of applause for his incredible work :)
Just discovered your channel
I’m thrilled with your documentaries. I love the information delivered with clear distinct voice, and no music.
Thank you.