Police making up false accusations as usual we tried to be nice and polite but look how it turned out, police yet again abusing there power and harassing the public.
Stopped for wearing a thick jacket and looking around. Oh conveniently a whiff of cannabis as well. This is an abuse of power. Put in a formal complaint against him. He is a disgrace. No wonder the commissioner left the force with employees like that.
He did well to stay composed but should have said "I'll be opening a civil claim for unlawful detainment" the copper would probably reply "that's fine". well, it's not fine actually. The police are costing tax payers for every claim. It needs to stop. That police stop was pathetic. It was blatant prejudice towards him. Just because the police say some it doesn't mean its right. They say all the things he said to cover their arse to get away with detaining someone. I've seen claims of 5 grand go through. No problem regularly. Looking at a police van is no crime, nor is it suspicious behaviour. The met police are cocky arrogant and need to be challenged more.
Stop and Account A police officer might stop you and ask: what your name is; what you’re doing in the area; where you’re going. IMPORTANT - You don’t have to stop or answer any questions. If you don’t and there’s no other reason to suspect you, a police officer does not have the power to force you to stay with them.
Illegal stop and search, also believe you should have been given a slip after the search, doing nothing allows them to do it to the next person they see looking at them.
If they don't provide a stop and search slip the search is completely unlawful it is all recorded and everyone is entitled to a copy of the search for it to be lawful because everything is documented but sadly police abuse that especially to people who aren't aware of their rights etc
They can say it was impractical to give him a slip one at the time due to something else kicking off. But it should still be recorded. He can go and ask for the copy later. 9/10 it won't have been done. It'll only have a description of him and the time ,location and date cos he wouldn't give his name. No time for the Met.Cocky egotistical bullies.
Congratulations bro!!! I'm very happy for you guys and please keep us posted on the process and outcome of this lawsuit, I subbed and look forward to hearing the process and outcome of how much you get!!! They hooked you up big time with this one, they are just handing out money so easily!!!!
How patronising is that copper with all his rehearsed rubbish. He is inciting hatred...and the smarmy face, acting above the law, abusing their powers. While the other plonker tries to play good cop 🤣
Just watched your podcast with billy and thought you came across well. You can and will be a massive inspiration to kids from Liverpool and further a field. This however is disgusting the way they behaved the fact they even approached you shows the issues we have. Massive respect to you for the way you behaved and acted with the police. They should all be disciplined. I wish you all the best in your career I am a boxing fan but will now keep a close eye on your career. Keep doing what you are doing. 👍
Officer: What you looking at Shem: Your van Officer: Well I need you name, an explanation why, where are you from, how long have you been here, when do you go home, now squat and spread for the search Officer: I never said you have done anything wrong
Apr 6, 2020 | Police Misconduct During a criminal investigation, you have certain basic rights. There are also best practices that law enforcement officers should follow to ensure that they don’t violate the rights of an individual suspected of a crime. Unfortunately, current best practices for law enforcement officers often include intentionally lying to or misleading the subject of an investigation in order to access information and evidence. Police can lie directly to someone whom they suspect of a crime, as well as other people with secondary or tertiary connection to the crime. The better you understand your rights, the better you can determine if " police violated those rights " during an investigation or an arrest. WHY DO POLICE LIE DURING INVESTIGATION ? Police lie for a number of reasons. The first and most obvious is to create a sense of urgency in a suspect that can promote honesty when they might otherwise withhold information. Beyond that, police officers may say certain things to a suspect in order to build rapport, which means they want the suspects to trust them. Lying about what the officer believes happened or what kind of evidence the police have is a common tactic to undermine someone’s story or get them to comply with the wishes of the police. Although it is against the law for people to give false statements to the police, the same is not true for law enforcement. They can and do lie to both suspects and others during criminal investigations without any sort of consequence. " HOW POLICE LIES AFFECT THOSE ACCUSSED OF CRIMES " By misrepresenting a situation, police can make people feel like they don’t have any choice but to cooperate with law enforcement. For example, if an officer tells someone that a confidential informant places them at the scene of a crime for which the suspect has no alibi, that individual may decide to confess in the hope of securing a plea bargain that will reduce the penalties they face. Research has repeatedly demonstrated that " POLICE DISHONESTYHAS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES " for innocent individuals suspected of a crime and may push them into confessing or pleading guilty to an offense that they had nothing to do with. If you believe that police violated your rights in the way they conducted an investigation, discussing those concerns with an attorney can help you better determine what options you have available. Maybe mandatory soothers for police to enforce officer safety imholevc
What an awful stop.....so is just breathing allowed or you need to display a permit ? Incredible patience from you both and in the face of provocation from police.
correct ,, code 3.8 to 3.11 = GOWISELY ,, is a lawful requirement "before search" takes place as they are in uniform all 7 acronyms which must be verbally presented for lawful search czcams.com/video/gjpEjgX1Dl4/video.html and "smell (on its own ) cannot be used as grounds , x PC Jonathan Clapham x PC Sam Franks breached standards , honesty , integratory both were sacked without notice,, making a dishonest statement (smell & found nothing) also intent of causing battery ,use of force = handcuffs (s.117) without seeking the "cooperation" (= code A3.2) of person being searched where acting :- sergeant Rachael Simpson PC Allen Casey PC Michael Bond all 3 had a written final warning and 3 had "reflective practice" "prevent a reoccurrence" under Police (conduct) Regulations 20, PART 6, s.66 (more than 1 officer)
It’s patronising how he said he knows how it can’t be good to be searched in the street like that while he’s doing it and as if he’s ever been stopped and searched like that.
Fair play to you just standing there composed, a lot more people would have done exactly what they wanted and reacted, especially while his head was so low down at your feet... Where I Ireland did you compete 😛☺️
You should not answer questions, they are not your friends, the only reason they talked to you and your mate, was to find a reason to take your freedom away.
Typical TSG (just like Merseyside's MATRIX) looking for an easy lock up, no PACE 1 search record ? report them to professional standards. You'll get no joy but it's the irritation factor that counts.
He doesnt have ID because he didnt know he was required to prove who he was and explain his lawful actions. This cop is very manipulative and knows full well what hes doing
I watch a lot of interactions with police and this is bad , I would take civil action if I was you , I know a good firm in liverpool who deal with this
The second I saw the gloves it was obvious he was going to search. He was itching for a reason brother. Some people will make up anything to do this. Unfortunately it seems to be coppers who do this.
What an excuse for a police officer, he's just phishing for more information than he's entitled too. Definitely stretching reasonable grounds to search someone, lMHO
How the fuck can they get away with this,where is the accountability. I’m disgusted that this is still happening and superior still allowing it,smell of cans is probably off one of his police mates coz they’re
I take it we have not to look at the police anymore ? Just wait till they ask if you need help no wonder they are actually hated dirty dirty scumbags he knows exactly what he’s doing put a complaint in I wasn’t even happy with the services the provided
I hope you made a complaint, I’ve never seen such a fishing trip, stands next to you for 10minutes never mentions the smell of cannabis once wonders off and comes back with his made up story. Pathetic Met
This is What Market researchers have been doing to me more than 10years ago today (7th) detaining me for more than an hour for the sake of being forced to give "THEM " information about purchasing habits and personal information about my private life with had NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM Whatsoever ONE of the Market researchers kept gripping my arm to stop me from leaving until THEY both got what THEY wanted!!!!!
He'd already given the policeman a fantastic movie script of his life. Not giving a name is just being an arse. Still, more footage for social media I suppose.
Anyone wearing barefoot shoes definitely ain’t up to no good😂, my guy Shem stayed calm and acted within his rights, usually in these videos the chap on the camera is acting a fool, shouting and disrespecting them but Shem behaved perfectly and they still detained him for his “behaviour” and a fat jacket? That’s pretty mad,they just make something up like that. Shems gotta let all this shit slide though and just laugh at these fools when he’s out fucking things up in the UFC. Can’t wait to see him compete again Fat support from EIRE🇮🇪
@@ryancummins8067 yeah for sure, especially when you see this type of video when someone in this situation acted perfectly, well behaved, within his rights and still got detained for some bullshit
Seen this gaver on other videos ...hes always acting a nob and makes up laws out of thin air 🤣🤣🤣 his attitude changed when you said your pro fighter and been on telly ...he kept gulping 🤣🤣🤣
Smell of cannabis🤦♂️ making excuses up as they go
Absolutely disgusting. That main officer asking the questions is a disgrace to the Police force.
What an officer from the met told me. Never volunteer information? We will use it against you ? Exercise your civil right to remain silence ? !
Stopped for wearing a thick jacket and looking around. Oh conveniently a whiff of cannabis as well. This is an abuse of power. Put in a formal complaint against him. He is a disgrace. No wonder the commissioner left the force with employees like that.
He did well to stay composed but should have said "I'll be opening a civil claim for unlawful detainment" the copper would probably reply "that's fine". well, it's not fine actually. The police are costing tax payers for every claim. It needs to stop. That police stop was pathetic. It was blatant prejudice towards him. Just because the police say some it doesn't mean its right. They say all the things he said to cover their arse to get away with detaining someone. I've seen claims of 5 grand go through. No problem regularly. Looking at a police van is no crime, nor is it suspicious behaviour. The met police are cocky arrogant and need to be challenged more.
Exactly they are because even when we take a claim against them it comes out of the taxpayer not their own pocket
Stop and Account
A police officer might stop you and ask: what your name is; what you’re doing in the area; where you’re going.
IMPORTANT - You don’t have to stop or answer any questions. If you don’t and there’s no other reason to suspect you, a police officer does not have the power to force you to stay with them.
Bastards!! These are damn right out of order. This is Harassment. This is disgraceful.
Illegal stop and search, also believe you should have been given a slip after the search, doing nothing allows them to do it to the next person they see looking at them.
If they don't provide a stop and search slip the search is completely unlawful it is all recorded and everyone is entitled to a copy of the search for it to be lawful because everything is documented but sadly police abuse that especially to people who aren't aware of their rights etc
They can say it was impractical to give him a slip one at the time due to something else kicking off. But it should still be recorded. He can go and ask for the copy later. 9/10 it won't have been done. It'll only have a description of him and the time ,location and date cos he wouldn't give his name. No time for the Met.Cocky egotistical bullies.
They are muppets, but isn’t it impossible to do a slip if you refuse details?
I cannot believe how many believe this is straight up.
Congratulations bro!!! I'm very happy for you guys and please keep us posted on the process and outcome of this lawsuit, I subbed and look forward to hearing the process and outcome of how much you get!!! They hooked you up big time with this one, they are just handing out money so easily!!!!
How patronising is that copper with all his rehearsed rubbish. He is inciting hatred...and the smarmy face, acting above the law, abusing their powers. While the other plonker tries to play good cop 🤣
Exactly they are all full of shit
Just watched your podcast with billy and thought you came across well. You can and will be a massive inspiration to kids from Liverpool and further a field. This however is disgusting the way they behaved the fact they even approached you shows the issues we have. Massive respect to you for the way you behaved and acted with the police. They should all be disciplined. I wish you all the best in your career I am a boxing fan but will now keep a close eye on your career. Keep doing what you are doing. 👍
He's a dumb twat, just thrown away his mma career because he got very emotional at the weigh in, and now the hype train is leaving without him
That Plod has shaped his hat like an SS Guard ! Unless that's the shape of his head what an absolute bell end
Officer: What you looking at
Shem: Your van
Officer: Well I need you name, an explanation why, where are you from, how long have you been here, when do you go home, now squat and spread for the search
Officer: I never said you have done anything wrong
What a liar that copper is, he just couldn’t let you go, could he ?, still don’t give up your name, top man. These coppers are liars
Think he just wanted ya autograph shem
All he had to was ask 🤣
Wow!. This is unbelievable!! Don't wear big coats folks!!
Haha init lad
Apr 6, 2020 | Police Misconduct During a criminal investigation, you have certain basic rights. There are also best practices that law enforcement officers should follow to ensure that they don’t violate the rights of an individual suspected of a crime. Unfortunately, current best practices for law enforcement officers often include intentionally lying to or misleading the subject of an investigation in order to access information and evidence. Police can lie directly to someone whom they suspect of a crime, as well as other people with secondary or tertiary connection to the crime. The better you understand your rights, the better you can determine if " police violated those rights " during an investigation or an arrest. WHY DO POLICE LIE DURING INVESTIGATION ? Police lie for a number of reasons. The first and most obvious is to create a sense of urgency in a suspect that can promote honesty when they might otherwise withhold information. Beyond that, police officers may say certain things to a suspect in order to build rapport, which means they want the suspects to trust them. Lying about what the officer believes happened or what kind of evidence the police have is a common tactic to undermine someone’s story or get them to comply with the wishes of the police. Although it is against the law for people to give false statements to the police, the same is not true for law enforcement. They can and do lie to both suspects and others during criminal investigations without any sort of consequence. " HOW POLICE LIES AFFECT THOSE ACCUSSED OF CRIMES " By misrepresenting a situation, police can make people feel like they don’t have any choice but to cooperate with law enforcement. For example, if an officer tells someone that a confidential informant places them at the scene of a crime for which the suspect has no alibi, that individual may decide to confess in the hope of securing a plea bargain that will reduce the penalties they face. Research has repeatedly demonstrated that " POLICE DISHONESTYHAS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES " for innocent individuals suspected of a crime and may push them into confessing or pleading guilty to an offense that they had nothing to do with. If you believe that police violated your rights in the way they conducted an investigation, discussing those concerns with an attorney can help you better determine what options you have available. Maybe mandatory soothers for police to enforce officer safety imholevc
Send it to your contact at UK TV😠
If people have nothing to hide they usually comply!
What utter bs!
It's all in the terminology ?
What an awful stop.....so is just breathing allowed or you need to display a permit ? Incredible patience from you both and in the face of provocation from police.
Alive, breathing and physically there.
And also, that first cop was lit. His pupils are hardly there.
HNK solicitors will have a field day with this. I don't think they mentioned either section for detainment or identified themselves??
Section 23 MODA, detained for the purpose off the search, however did not go ahead with his GOWISEY
They did identify and and they gave a reason for the search well done MET
@@debbiehayes1966 spot the tory in the room
@@debbiehayes1966ur pathetic
correct ,, code 3.8 to 3.11 = GOWISELY ,, is a lawful requirement "before search" takes place as they are in uniform all 7 acronyms which must be verbally presented for lawful search
czcams.com/video/gjpEjgX1Dl4/video.html
and "smell (on its own ) cannot be used as grounds ,
x PC Jonathan Clapham
x PC Sam Franks
breached standards , honesty , integratory both were sacked without notice,, making a dishonest statement (smell & found nothing) also intent of causing battery ,use of force = handcuffs (s.117) without seeking the "cooperation" (= code A3.2) of person being searched
where acting :-
sergeant Rachael Simpson
PC Allen Casey
PC Michael Bond
all 3
had a written final warning
and 3 had "reflective practice" "prevent a reoccurrence" under Police (conduct) Regulations 20, PART 6, s.66 (more than 1 officer)
Well done for keeping your cool, thank god your mate was filming it , they were after a arrest , now go and sue my mate. YNWA.
That pc has got the copspeel down to perfection Well done for keeping the head and confusing him with the truth
It’s patronising how he said he knows how it can’t be good to be searched in the street like that while he’s doing it and as if he’s ever been stopped and searched like that.
Smelly grasses eeeeeeeee wrongens
Fair play to you just standing there composed, a lot more people would have done exactly what they wanted and reacted, especially while his head was so low down at your feet... Where I Ireland did you compete 😛☺️
Suspicion?! That’s no means for a stop.
He’s fishing hoping you’ll bite ?
He's from Chadwell Heath .enough said !!!
You should not answer questions, they are not your friends, the only reason they talked to you and your mate, was to find a reason to take your freedom away.
You should not given him any information
What a weak reason to stop and search you looked at us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These police need to get a real job.
Typical TSG (just like Merseyside's MATRIX) looking for an easy lock up, no PACE 1 search record ? report them to professional standards. You'll get no joy but it's the irritation factor that counts.
F the police, already said way to much to them. You have the right to remain silent! Doughnut police
He doesnt have ID because he didnt know he was required to prove who he was and explain his lawful actions. This cop is very manipulative and knows full well what hes doing
pushing the boat out here what joke disgusting treating people like this
That officer is a mug they make me sick like Shem said no wonder people don’t like these lying cowards.
Embarrassing to say the least , who trained this one ..smh
Clearly not an auditor, or even up on his rights.....also not knowing when to shut up, don't ever talk to the cops
Never said he was an auditor did he sausage, your dads a cop
Next time tell them nothing, they're just fishing to stitch you up.
I'm glad I left the UK!!! When it still was the UK!!!
Doughnuts
Scousers don’t wear white socks Shem 😂
I watch a lot of interactions with police and this is bad , I would take civil action if I was you , I know a good firm in liverpool who deal with this
The second I saw the gloves it was obvious he was going to search. He was itching for a reason brother. Some people will make up anything to do this. Unfortunately it seems to be coppers who do this.
He was on the run for 9 years stupid
Mings
They will try and keep you down bro keep moving forward they are all bully victims
i dont answer questions .. response every time to cops no matter what
100% that's wrong, you handle them really well Fair play to you bro
Rats bro
Don't speak to them there is no thing as stop and account need to raise a complain well out of order
What an excuse for a police officer, he's just phishing for more information than he's entitled too.
Definitely stretching reasonable grounds to search someone, lMHO
How the fuck can they get away with this,where is the accountability. I’m disgusted that this is still happening and superior still allowing it,smell of cans is probably off one of his police mates coz they’re
There is none when it comes to the shit they spew because they can get away with telling absolute utter shit and horse crap
A stop and account,what the feck?
I take it we have not to look at the police anymore ? Just wait till they ask if you need help no wonder they are actually hated dirty dirty scumbags he knows exactly what he’s doing put a complaint in I wasn’t even happy with the services the provided
Shem you should of got arrested just for them white socks 😂
😂😂😂
Weird to see Tim Roth now working as a copper
well so much for these cops suspicion, search was just so they make up their numbers for the day
Lad that plod was a bad nob no need for that clearly had nothing else to do with his day the blert
Never talk to the filth.
Just for admin mate. !! Crockoshide
Stop & Account no need to tell them anything.
What a living that they say anything to search
Sad init
Always reply' I dont answer questions '
Well done Shem lad ! Never trust a bacon🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓! Admin my arse you bacon! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This policing is horrendous. He made scandalous accusation just to perform a search. Please tell me you have pressed this complaint further.
The clown car was full today.
Your worse Shem....that PC plob was there for the taking!
Comply?
Shoulda got a copy of search and all they badge numbers bro
Got your back London E17
admin yeah right.
I hope you made a complaint, I’ve never seen such a fishing trip, stands next to you for 10minutes never mentions the smell of cannabis once wonders off and comes back with his made up story. Pathetic Met
"Where you from?" What a tool...😂
This is What Market researchers have been doing to me more than 10years ago today (7th) detaining me for more than an hour for the sake of being forced to give "THEM " information about purchasing habits and personal information about my private life with had NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM Whatsoever ONE of the Market researchers kept gripping my arm to stop me from leaving until THEY both got what THEY wanted!!!!!
Bad goons them. Imagine the birds these must have. Stench town
🐀 🐀
How dare you have money.
Did he say for admin, sausage
He'd already given the policeman a fantastic movie script of his life. Not giving a name is just being an arse. Still, more footage for social media I suppose.
If police have u passport report, it is lost and just get a new one
Why would you want to help him with his log? Pratt
Clearly no real grounds easy settlement win but guarantee you won't follow it up
Wow there lies are unreal
Unbelievable guys disgusting behaviour
Bet theese constables have learnt from sgt scott manning or pc morris there on the same team
What a jobsworth. Jog on😂
When he told tou to read it again it jyst proved the point of you just being innocently curious:)
Aww he was just seeing if u need the filth kidder !
I would check if any of your money is missing, this seems like a scam job to me.
Thick coat yet them little divvys walk round wit all that gear on rats lad the shit they come up with is mad
Omg
Anyone wearing barefoot shoes definitely ain’t up to no good😂, my guy Shem stayed calm and acted within his rights, usually in these videos the chap on the camera is acting a fool, shouting and disrespecting them but Shem behaved perfectly and they still detained him for his “behaviour” and a fat jacket? That’s pretty mad,they just make something up like that. Shems gotta let all this shit slide though and just laugh at these fools when he’s out fucking things up in the UFC. Can’t wait to see him compete again Fat support from EIRE🇮🇪
When police earn respect they will get respect, until then people have the right not to be subservient to these officers.
@@ryancummins8067 yeah for sure, especially when you see this type of video when someone in this situation acted perfectly, well behaved, within his rights and still got detained for some bullshit
Shem has toxteth manners and discipline izrite👑🔥🕊
Police don’t half waffle on
Anyone else notice how scruffy those pigs are?
Walking too slowly 😂😂😂
Seen this gaver on other videos ...hes always acting a nob and makes up laws out of thin air 🤣🤣🤣 his attitude changed when you said your pro fighter and been on telly ...he kept gulping 🤣🤣🤣
He’s a big tool isn’t he
silly freemason checker board clown hats