I have bought 3 of them. I used my first one as my main mower for my first year in business. When it bit the dust I bought the next one and made that one my parts mower. Now I have done the same thing with my last one. For the price on these mowers you can’t beat them, yet. No one has come close to the efficiency of the toro time master. Some have tried, many have failed.
Good video. My 2015 Toro Timemaster failed last month with no drive to the right hand wheel. This was after nearly 7 years of home use. Around 45 minutes per week, something like 800 miles. Running the wheels down ditches / border edges puts a lot of lateral load on the transmission. I removed the transmission. I stripped the transmission down and found the problem not to be gears or halfshaft problems, but a split in half halfshaft retaining bush that doubles as an oil circulation paddle (the transmission housing is half full of 20-50 or 15-40 oil). This 2 bit bush was made of plastic and clearly the weak link. No parts are available for the transmission internals, in the UK anyway! It holds the halfshaft in with a little cross pin that the paddle / bush is pushed onto, in production. Split in two it allowed the halfshaft / inner drive transfer wheel to float away enough not to get any drive from the crown wheel when the cable pulled the actuator lever. I've made a brass bush (have lathe will turn) and machined out the paddle so it fits over the brass bush. A stainless steel bolt through the paddle halves and bush / halfshaft keeps it all in place. Now all is in place it works just as it should. Pulls like a train again. The worst part was cleaning all the silicone gasket sealant they'd used when assembling. I used an automotive Silicone gasket sealant - works fine. The other halfshaft has a similar bush / oil paddle but is in great condition! Perhaps I had a odd faulty moulded plastic bush? Seems not though as so many people have the problems. It's common for companies to have epidemic failures on some parts. Once reported back they update and fix. There is nothing on the internet about stripping / repairing these transmissions. You are expected to pay the $150 + tax or £181 for a whole new transmission! I reckon the updated transmissions of the newer ones would be an upgrade to these bushes! I'm making a little video about the steps and what I did to repair it. Will post up soon. Regards, Steve
The Timemaster 30 has worked very well for me after a year and half, using it on multiple lawns. You can expect to replace cables, pulleys, and belts. Spindles are sealed and have no grease fittings. Most moving parts are relatively cheap to replace. Keep an extra pulley kit on hand, they do tend to wear out and one bad pulley bearing will shut down the mower. It's important to pay attention to any excess vibrations. I've had several cracked blades on my Toro Timemaster 30. Unusual vibration could mean one of the blades may be starting to crack from stress. Hairline cracks may be almost invisible to naked eye but will produce considerable vibration when synchro belt is engaged and blades are turning. Once you know your mower, you should be able to detect vibrations if you're paying attention. I think these Toro blades are problematic but they could redesign the blades to increase the elasticity of the carbon steel and reduce brittleness all of which is contributing to the cracked and broken blades. I'm happy with my Timemaster going on almost 2 years with work in multiple accounts. As stated above, all cables, pulleys and belts have been replaced. All in all, it's a heavy beast and can do commercial work but be prepared for downtimes for periodic maintenance. Everything can be DIY if you have mechanical ability. But don't put off the essential inspections and regular maintenance. Pay attention to vibrations which means something is out of balance. I've actually heard of one roadside fatality from a commercial pull-behind rotary mower breaking off one of its blades and hitting a passerby in the head and killing him. Freak accident in that case.
I just put my 2018 Time Master in the shop for warranty work and decided instead of waiting to go ahead and buy another one. So I’m there with you brother thanks for the video blessings to you
@@mr.cslawncare1347 - I was at the dealer yesterday. He's like, oh, the residential has a bigger motor, but if used commercially, forget about the warranty. Think he said 30 days, might of said 90. Told him if I bought the cheap residential, wouldn't be worried about the warranty, if I put on my trailer. Think he said 3 years on the Turf master.
I see a lot of comments in here of people purchasing multiple toros over the course of a few years because they are “cheap”. It’s too early to tell, but if the FW15 winds up being as long lasting and reliable as they appear, the $3k price tag starts to look like a deal compared to replacing timemasters every few years.
Johny, I cant speak for the Timemaster, but I have 2 Exmark Commercial 30's. They have held up pretty well and we use them a lot. Not sure of the hours, but they are our primary mowers. I keep the following extra parts: transmission, a set of 2 anodized pulleys for the spindle belt, one splined belt for the spindle, 1 blade engagement belt, 1 transmission belt, and that idler pulley that engages the blades. I Love the 30's with the exception of the trans issues. When blade speed starts to bog, its usually because there is build of of grass and dirt under the spindle cover area, or the belt needs replaced. The decks do build up a lot in the spring and will clump in wet conditions, BUT....they are a GREAT MACHINE overall. MUCH faster than 21's!! I agree with you. The 30 can mulch, bag or side discharge, and you can switch quickly!!
Great mower on my second one. Toro just put a lot of cheap parts on it. Only problems I had with them are self propelled cable and blade cable will brake but no problem with transmission. And I use them commercially. Turfmaster is too heavy and way over price.
Yes the transmissions on any Toro mowers are garbage, I like everything else except the transmissions lol. I just have a low wheel 22'' personal pace and its been good. just got a timemaster and love it so far. I bought it used for 800.00 and I also have an older 48" Ferris walk behind for bigger 1 acre lots.
Nice job. I have a first gen with 100-150 hours. The gas cap is a POS and Toro wants a fortune for a replacement, so I added a thicker O-ring to stop the leaks. Only other repair was a replacement blade brake cable. Overall, I'm content, but I'm eager to try a second gen for the extra hp.
Nice vid, I still have a timemaster as a back up. Turfmaster as my main push it has 270 hrs( 2 yrs) once it crosses 300 hundred I will do a review of that guy, considering buying another time master since we do so little push mowing now with my new set up. Can't see dropping another 2k on just a few lawns.
Did you get the FW15 ? If so do you like it ? How does it do on hills ? All my mowing is flat right now but I know the moment I buy either Toro 30 inch I'll get a bunch of hills to mowe.
I love mine! I use it commercially. On some lawns, I would prefer the option for the transmission to be fixed speed settings. I would pay extra for that option
We use these commercially, theyre fantastic. They have replaces 21" trim mowers almost totally for us. Mulch great, discharge when needed. Time saved...tons. Quirks to get used to but worth the learning curve. Ours are 2014 model years. I updated the belt cable tensioner and gearbox. We go through one front adjustment plate per season, and some cable'belts at about the same rate as any other machine with lighter duty cables. The commercial units are just WAY too heavy and expensive. You can put a mildly used 36" on your trailer for that cost.
Great videos I have the timemaster I love it, can you make a short video on how to adjust the governor and do you think that may be the transmission problem?
I've had good luck with my time master I bought it used 2 years ago for $300 I use on about 5 yards a week plus a few hills to steep for my zero turn I haven't had any issues. Also I use it when it is to wet for a ztr. That's why I bought it so every once in a while I'll put 6 hour a day on that mower. Since I've owned it I've only used mixed gas in it that way I only need one gas can.
@@timbohouston no problems I've been doing it for about 10 years now in 3 different push mowers a pressure washer and occasionally zero turns and my truck when they run out of gas.
i use the old version with the old motor still, been through one trans , cables brake ect , i use mine pretty good too. wet medium length grass can be a bit tough
I have 2 exmark commercial 30s bought used total spent 1050 /975 cut great bag mulch side discharge sold my awd Toro to light junk cuts lousy only plus personal space drive system
I have a 2018 Timemaster and just bought a brand new 2018 Turfmaster model. I like my Timemaster better then my new Turfmaster because the Timemaster is a lot easier to maneuver and appears more powerful.
if they say the trans has been up dated...it does not mean its outside needs to look different... maybe just better materials inside and steal gears... How much for new trans?
How do you clean the deck underneath? Those garden hose deck attachments just make a sloppy mushy mess i. experience up in PA . Can you prop this up and reach underneath easily to scrape it clean?
I've had my Timemaster for almost two years. My only complaint is that it doesn't mulch thick zoysia grass very well. I need to go over it twice, the second time with the bag. And that's with dry grass and sharp blades.
I’ve not had any issues with mine just finished my 3rd season with it use 3 to 4 days a week 10 to 12 yards a day most yards are about 15 to 20 minutes I do spend quite a bit of time doing preventative maintenance on all my equipment
Johnny Mow I start with a good cleaning at the end of every week pull off the belt guard clean under there clean any build up around the trans make sure all cables and belts are correctly adjusted I can’t figure out why everyone burns their transmission up I beat the dog crud out of mine I mow up and Down hills and it keeps going i believe because I do stuff like that I don’t have the issues
I was a bit worried after my first season with it I was going to start having issues so I bought a second one I’ve never pulled it out of the box it’s in the loft of my shop just in case I do also I believe a lot of the transmission problems come from the the personal pace system the way it works I think it allows the transmission to slip so I added a limiter to mine one speed I push the handle to the limiter and go a nice pace not to slow not to fast just a comfortable walk
@@chuckccfd9 - Love this idea about the limiter. If I may ask, what do you use to limit it, and where would I buy one? After watching MANY reviews on this mower, decided to get a Honda instead. But after seeing Johnny say good things, and another fella talking about putting commercial blades on, and your experience, with the limiter, I believe you all have changed my mind. Thanks for all the input everyone!
Glad to hear your input on this mower. I would love to have one someday. It would perfect for my personal lawn... Well got a new one for you ?#&#? My PTO on my 3200 is working backwards. When I pull up on it, blades cut off,push down blades cut on 🤔??? Also we have a new used mower is in the works for us this week 🙄
Is this a good mower for a private home owner to by? I do not now, nor will I ever use it to cut more than one property. I am just looking for a very dependable wide mower.
I bought mine in spring and the first 4 months i put over 300.00 dollars in parts and labor. Im going to try commercial 21. Any recommendations johny mow?
I love Toro but I'm glad I didn't buy one of these I just bought a 36 inch Toro grandstand to replace most of my push mower jobs on hills I will use my push mower
I don't have a nuff Room in my trailer for Another machine Currently use a cheap 20" push for the smaller stuff and I lifted up and put it in the back of the truck Would I be able to lift that mower up and put it in the back of a truck
Hey Johnny. I'm considering buying one of those mowers. I'm a homeowner, and it takes me about an hour to mow my lawn with my Troybilt 21". Can this mower be used as a push mower as well? That might be a stupid question :), but I like to get a workout once in a while at my age (70). Thank you for the information.
Hey Johnny i have a 36 Wright intensity and a 21inch Hrx 217 honda but the hydro transmission went out on me after 4 half years i took it to homedepot repair center and the guy told me my transmission is gone and its $275 to replace and then he tells me honda has a five year warranty do i have the receipt i told them i I don't they scanned the serial number and they told me honda will replace it free of charge im going to sell it and get myself a toro timemaster 30 so many guys swear on them im only going to use it twice a week out of those two days one days she will be used hard on a shopping center that we mow cuz the whole place needs to be mowed with eather a 21 or a 30 inch cuz theres alot of cars and you can't get in between them cuz the space is really tight with the honda hrx it would take one of my guys 2 hours to mow the whole place i figure with the toro it should take him at least half the time thats really the only hard usage she would get my honda Hrx 217 handle it and its not commercial im sure the toro could handle it aswell cuz my Wright fits in all my other lawns i don't think i really have to spend over 2 grand on a mower thats only going to be used twice a week or as a back up in case my wright breaks down on me.
I have a problem, I changed out the engage cable and all was good, now i cant get this damn thing started even with pull...what should i look for; it is the 8.75 and have about 7 hrs....I really hate this think...
@@JohnnyMow Thanks Johnny. I have the Stihl BR800 and Echo PB8010. I wanted to add a small handheld blower because sometimes during fall clean ups, I need to clean corners of yards, under shrubs, and the eavestrough on roofs. The big backpacks can't get in there. I have been looking at the Echo PB2620 X series and the Stihl SH86. The echo currently can't be converted to a vac but is cheaper than the Stihl SH86 by $90. I was just wondering if it is worth it to get the vac or simply stick to the smaller handheld and pick up the blown debris.
@@F.D.Matrix the turf master hdx has updated to a big transmission but the regular turf master has the same tranny just heavier build. I would never own the turf master can’t fold up the handles and it’s very heavy. Very satisfied with the timemaster
Mine has issues with the deck clogging up, I use it commercially but where I live I can’t use it in the mornings because of the morning dew, it clogs up instantly with dewy grass. Anyone else have this issue?
Toby, yes, I've heard. I'm surprised Johnny didn't mention. Also heard that the Hondas do very well, with wet grass, and excellent with mulching dry grass.
@@stevecarr1992 Yea.. But Honda needs to come out with a 30" (or better yet a 32") to compete with the Timewaster, I mean Timemaster.. I think Honda only makes the dinky 21"..
"Great machine!" "Well built!" "Favorite machine!" Then goes on to say the most important part, the transmission, starts crapping out at 20 hours?? Sounds like the definition of insanity to me! Keep buying the same old crap! Toro is and always will be a cheap, garbage machine!
I have bought 3 of them. I used my first one as my main mower for my first year in business. When it bit the dust I bought the next one and made that one my parts mower. Now I have done the same thing with my last one. For the price on these mowers you can’t beat them, yet. No one has come close to the efficiency of the toro time master. Some have tried, many have failed.
Good video.
My 2015 Toro Timemaster failed last month with no drive to the right hand wheel.
This was after nearly 7 years of home use. Around 45 minutes per week, something like 800 miles.
Running the wheels down ditches / border edges puts a lot of lateral load on the transmission.
I removed the transmission.
I stripped the transmission down and found the problem not to be gears or halfshaft problems, but a split in half halfshaft retaining bush that doubles as an oil circulation paddle (the transmission housing is half full of 20-50 or 15-40 oil).
This 2 bit bush was made of plastic and clearly the weak link. No parts are available for the transmission internals, in the UK anyway!
It holds the halfshaft in with a little cross pin that the paddle / bush is pushed onto, in production.
Split in two it allowed the halfshaft / inner drive transfer wheel to float away enough not to get any drive from the crown wheel when the cable pulled the actuator lever.
I've made a brass bush (have lathe will turn) and machined out the paddle so it fits over the brass bush. A stainless steel bolt through the paddle halves and bush / halfshaft keeps it all in place. Now all is in place it works just as it should.
Pulls like a train again.
The worst part was cleaning all the silicone gasket sealant they'd used when assembling.
I used an automotive Silicone gasket sealant - works fine.
The other halfshaft has a similar bush / oil paddle but is in great condition!
Perhaps I had a odd faulty moulded plastic bush?
Seems not though as so many people have the problems.
It's common for companies to have epidemic failures on some parts. Once reported back they update and fix.
There is nothing on the internet about stripping / repairing these transmissions. You are expected to pay the $150 + tax or £181 for a whole new transmission!
I reckon the updated transmissions of the newer ones would be an upgrade to these bushes!
I'm making a little video about the steps and what I did to repair it. Will post up soon.
Regards,
Steve
I have over 150 hours on my 2018 and haven’t had any issues yet, praying it keeps up
Using this for my house has been great. 30" cut makes it such a quick task. It's not a commercial grade mower however particularly with the pulleys.
The Timemaster 30 has worked very well for me after a year and half, using it on multiple lawns. You can expect to replace cables, pulleys, and belts. Spindles are sealed and have no grease fittings. Most moving parts are relatively cheap to replace. Keep an extra pulley kit on hand, they do tend to wear out and one bad pulley bearing will shut down the mower.
It's important to pay attention to any excess vibrations.
I've had several cracked blades on my Toro Timemaster 30. Unusual vibration could mean one of the blades may be starting to crack from stress. Hairline cracks may be almost invisible to naked eye but will produce considerable vibration when synchro belt is engaged and blades are turning. Once you know your mower, you should be able to detect vibrations if you're paying attention. I think these Toro blades are problematic but they could redesign the blades to increase the elasticity of the carbon steel and reduce brittleness all of which is contributing to the cracked and broken blades.
I'm happy with my Timemaster going on almost 2 years with work in multiple accounts. As stated above, all cables, pulleys and belts have been replaced. All in all, it's a heavy beast and can do commercial work but be prepared for downtimes for periodic maintenance. Everything can be DIY if you have mechanical ability. But don't put off the essential inspections and regular maintenance. Pay attention to vibrations which means something is out of balance.
I've actually heard of one roadside fatality from a commercial pull-behind rotary mower breaking off one of its blades and hitting a passerby in the head and killing him. Freak accident in that case.
I just put my 2018 Time Master in the shop for warranty work and decided instead of waiting to go ahead and buy another one. So I’m there with you brother thanks for the video blessings to you
Mr. C's Lawncare I love these suckers
@@JohnnyMow Do you get a three year warranty when you buy them?
@@mr.cslawncare1347 - I was at the dealer yesterday. He's like, oh, the residential has a bigger motor, but if used commercially, forget about the warranty. Think he said 30 days, might of said 90. Told him if I bought the cheap residential, wouldn't be worried about the warranty, if I put on my trailer. Think he said 3 years on the Turf master.
Honda, the only way to go. Built to last.
Johnny! Thank you for helping me decide on this mower, I picked mine up early 2018 and haven’t had any issues yet!
How's it holding up today?
I see a lot of comments in here of people purchasing multiple toros over the course of a few years because they are “cheap”. It’s too early to tell, but if the FW15 winds up being as long lasting and reliable as they appear, the $3k price tag starts to look like a deal compared to replacing timemasters every few years.
Johny, I cant speak for the Timemaster, but I have 2 Exmark Commercial 30's. They have held up pretty well and we use them a lot. Not sure of the hours, but they are our primary mowers. I keep the following extra parts: transmission, a set of 2 anodized pulleys for the spindle belt, one splined belt for the spindle, 1 blade engagement belt, 1 transmission belt, and that idler pulley that engages the blades. I Love the 30's with the exception of the trans issues. When blade speed starts to bog, its usually because there is build of of grass and dirt under the spindle cover area, or the belt needs replaced. The decks do build up a lot in the spring and will clump in wet conditions, BUT....they are a GREAT MACHINE overall. MUCH faster than 21's!! I agree with you. The 30 can mulch, bag or side discharge, and you can switch quickly!!
Great mower on my second one. Toro just put a lot of cheap parts on it. Only problems I had with them are self propelled cable and blade cable will brake but no problem with transmission. And I use them commercially. Turfmaster is too heavy and way over price.
thanks for the info,I as a home owner I did not know this size mower was even made..IM dumping my 21" and moving to one of these..No brainer
Yes the transmissions on any Toro mowers are garbage, I like everything else except the transmissions lol. I just have a low wheel 22'' personal pace and its been good. just got a timemaster and love it so far. I bought it used for 800.00 and I also have an older 48" Ferris walk behind for bigger 1 acre lots.
Strip down and repair😉
Nice job. I have a first gen with 100-150 hours. The gas cap is a POS and Toro wants a fortune for a replacement, so I added a thicker O-ring to stop the leaks. Only other repair was a replacement blade brake cable. Overall, I'm content, but I'm eager to try a second gen for the extra hp.
Nice vid, I still have a timemaster as a back up. Turfmaster as my main push it has 270 hrs( 2 yrs) once it crosses 300 hundred I will do a review of that guy, considering buying another time master since we do so little push mowing now with my new set up. Can't see dropping another 2k on just a few lawns.
Toro timemaster gives the best cut I've ever seen in a push mower
Just bought one of these. Can't wait to get out there and try it out.
How has it been so far? You use it personally or for business?
Im looking forward to seeing how FW15 Ferris holds up. They are both sold at my dealer. Lots of hills here and the toro just won't do hills long term.
Did you get the FW15 ? If so do you like it ? How does it do on hills ? All my mowing is flat right now but I know the moment I buy either Toro 30 inch I'll get a bunch of hills to mowe.
I love mine! I use it commercially. On some lawns, I would prefer the option for the transmission to be fixed speed settings. I would pay extra for that option
We use these commercially, theyre fantastic. They have replaces 21" trim mowers almost totally for us. Mulch great, discharge when needed. Time saved...tons. Quirks to get used to but worth the learning curve. Ours are 2014 model years. I updated the belt cable tensioner and gearbox. We go through one front adjustment plate per season, and some cable'belts at about the same rate as any other machine with lighter duty cables.
The commercial units are just WAY too heavy and expensive. You can put a mildly used 36" on your trailer for that cost.
Biggest negatives: fuel capacity and tank cap is awful. front adjustment plates are way too thin. Personal pace system inferior to twin bails.
What is the adjustment plate and what do u use it for
@@JohnnyMow the front wheel height
lol I just replaced mine😂 on sunday
@@JohnnyMow not a bad issue, cheap and fairly simple but a tiny bit more build quality in them and it wouldnt even be a problem
Im taking delivery today of my first TM. Only noncommercial use at my house. Hope it lasts
How's it held up?
Jeez thanks for the ball breaker on the AWD. I just bought one. Good thing is I got it 50% off from reg price including with the tax.
Great videos I have the timemaster I love it, can you make a short video on how to adjust the governor and do you think that may be the transmission problem?
I've had good luck with my time master I bought it used 2 years ago for $300 I use on about 5 yards a week plus a few hills to steep for my zero turn I haven't had any issues. Also I use it when it is to wet for a ztr. That's why I bought it so every once in a while I'll put 6 hour a day on that mower. Since I've owned it I've only used mixed gas in it that way I only need one gas can.
flat 4 um mixed gas?
@@JohnnyMow yep mixed gas I only like keeping one gas can on the trailer been using mixed gas in push mowers for years.
@@flat4314 - OMG, never heard of such a thing. That little 2 1/2 couldn't be that big of a hassle to have hanging around for the hand-helds.
@@flat4314 have you ever had any issues due to long term mixed gas in any mowers?
@@timbohouston no problems I've been doing it for about 10 years now in 3 different push mowers a pressure washer and occasionally zero turns and my truck when they run out of gas.
If you get the personal pace moving a little before you engage the drive it makes the transmission last longer
i use the old version with the old motor still, been through one trans , cables brake ect , i use mine pretty good too. wet medium length grass can be a bit tough
that mower you hate is the type you find air conditioned up in the mountain logging roads, alongside the 500 pound wood cabinet zenith tv
It is a residential mower not a commercial unit. The turfmaster is commercial unit.
We bought one this year and love it. It does seem to drink the gas though.
Scout's Outdoor Services SOS small gas tank
I have 2 exmark commercial 30s bought used total spent 1050 /975 cut great bag mulch side discharge sold my awd Toro to light junk cuts lousy only plus personal space drive system
I have a 2018 Timemaster and just bought a brand new 2018 Turfmaster model.
I like my Timemaster better then my new Turfmaster because the Timemaster is a lot easier to maneuver and appears more powerful.
cost for a trans??? what about a rebuild kit for a trans... it should be easy imo...unless they built them to toss...
I’m thinking of getting it for my .3 acres. 2020 model 1,000$ from a toro dealer. Thanks for the info. I know what to ask
if they say the trans has been up dated...it does not mean its outside needs to look different... maybe just better materials inside and steal gears... How much for new trans?
Bruce looking for bagger for lawn mower blade
Do you have a video on installing the transmission?
FW15 is about $2800-$3000 if i’m not mistaken. Great video!
I just bought one and I love it !
I used the toro time master for an entire season all residential and already had to replace the carb on it
I’ve never had one go bad yet
I wonder if when they fix and put a better. Carb on it if it will last longer
How do you clean the deck underneath? Those garden hose deck attachments just make a sloppy mushy mess i. experience up in PA . Can you prop this up and reach underneath easily to scrape it clean?
Mr. L yep turn it on it’s side
I flip the handle up, up end the mower and use a car wheel water brush. Gets all the grass off whether dry or wet.
I've had my Timemaster for almost two years. My only complaint is that it doesn't mulch thick zoysia grass very well. I need to go over it twice, the second time with the bag. And that's with dry grass and sharp blades.
Dave NC I don’t think these timemaster cuts any thick thick well 😂. But boy it bags well
I’ve not had any issues with mine just finished my 3rd season with it use 3 to 4 days a week 10 to 12 yards a day most yards are about 15 to 20 minutes I do spend quite a bit of time doing preventative maintenance on all my equipment
chuckccfd9 what’s preventative maintenance are u referring too on the time master?
Johnny Mow I start with a good cleaning at the end of every week pull off the belt guard clean under there clean any build up around the trans make sure all cables and belts are correctly adjusted I can’t figure out why everyone burns their transmission up I beat the dog crud out of mine I mow up and Down hills and it keeps going i believe because I do stuff like that I don’t have the issues
I was a bit worried after my first season with it I was going to start having issues so I bought a second one I’ve never pulled it out of the box it’s in the loft of my shop just in case I do also I believe a lot of the transmission problems come from the the personal pace system the way it works I think it allows the transmission to slip so I added a limiter to mine one speed I push the handle to the limiter and go a nice pace not to slow not to fast just a comfortable walk
@@chuckccfd9 - Love this idea about the limiter. If I may ask, what do you use to limit it, and where would I buy one? After watching MANY reviews on this mower, decided to get a Honda instead. But after seeing Johnny say good things, and another fella talking about putting commercial blades on, and your experience, with the limiter, I believe you all have changed my mind. Thanks for all the input everyone!
Steve Carr I just used a hose clamp after the snow melts and I can get to my shop again I’ll get a photo of what I did
does anyone know if you can use it self propelled without the blades on to drive it up a ramp?
Mason Delisle yes.
Whats wrong with the awd recycler? Too slow?
Maybe you answered the transmission question at 5:00? Faster and smoother. Thanks for the review I’m gonna but one.
Glad to hear your input on this mower. I would love to have one someday. It would perfect for my personal lawn... Well got a new one for you ?#&#? My PTO on my 3200 is working backwards. When I pull up on it, blades cut off,push down blades cut on 🤔??? Also we have a new used mower is in the works for us this week 🙄
J's Crazy Cutz, LLC never heard of that before
J's Crazy Cutz, LLC can’t wait to see the mower
Is this a good mower for a private home owner to by? I do not now, nor will I ever use it to cut more than one property. I am just looking for a very dependable wide mower.
I love them
I would go for the turfmaster because it has the Kawasaki or Kohler engine. Im not a fan of newer Briggs engines.
Dope review
The nuts holding the pull cord assembly down vibrated loose and the assembly broke. What size are the nuts ?
supposedly you shouldn't have to change the new ones transmission they made some changes ive heard that made the timemasters transmission better
Nice job thanks 👍🏻 my yard has a short bank my 21 inch Troy Bilt handles it my question to you is are these mowers top-heavy
Big Time Barbecue not really. They are very well balanced
Johnny Mow that’s what I needed to hear !!! Thank you my friend be safe 😊
I bought mine in spring and the first 4 months i put over 300.00 dollars in parts and labor. Im going to try commercial 21. Any recommendations johny mow?
I love Toro but I'm glad I didn't buy one of these I just bought a 36 inch Toro grandstand to replace most of my push mower jobs on hills I will use my push mower
I don't have a nuff Room in my trailer for Another machine Currently use a cheap 20" push for the smaller stuff and I lifted up and put it in the back of the truck Would I be able to lift that mower up and put it in the back of a truck
How much does a new trans cost?
Hey Johnny. I'm considering buying one of those mowers. I'm a homeowner, and it takes me about an hour to mow my lawn with my Troybilt 21". Can this mower be used as a push mower as well? That might be a stupid question :), but I like to get a workout once in a while at my age (70). Thank you for the information.
J Nieto absolutely.
Any updates since this video?
Timemaster transmission is a joke, won’t go up tiny inclines. I wasted $1200.00
Hey Johnny i have a 36 Wright intensity and a 21inch Hrx 217 honda but the hydro transmission went out on me after 4 half years i took it to homedepot repair center and the guy told me my transmission is gone and its $275 to replace and then he tells me honda has a five year warranty do i have the receipt i told them i I don't they scanned the serial number and they told me honda will replace it free of charge im going to sell it and get myself a toro timemaster 30 so many guys swear on them im only going to use it twice a week out of those two days one days she will be used hard on a shopping center that we mow cuz the whole place needs to be mowed with eather a 21 or a 30 inch cuz theres alot of cars and you can't get in between them cuz the space is really tight with the honda hrx it would take one of my guys 2 hours to mow the whole place i figure with the toro it should take him at least half the time thats really the only hard usage she would get my honda Hrx 217 handle it and its not commercial im sure the toro could handle it aswell cuz my Wright fits in all my other lawns i don't think i really have to spend over 2 grand on a mower thats only going to be used twice a week or as a back up in case my wright breaks down on me.
Great mower my man
Ferris has a new mower out you should review it
I have a problem, I changed out the engage cable and all was good, now i cant get this damn thing started even with pull...what should i look for; it is the 8.75 and have about 7 hrs....I really hate this think...
diane nelson not sure sounds like your auto choke is not working properly
How are the pulleys holding?
There is a guy with 2k hours in one in Texas,why do u hate the 21 I was gunna get one too replace my snapper when she dies?
There clutches inside clutch burns out
Why don't you like the toro 22 awd?
Johnny....looks like you have a Stihl SH86 Shred n Vac in the background. How do you like that unit?
joeraptor1 I love it I use it to clean up shrub clippings
@@JohnnyMow Thanks Johnny. I have the Stihl BR800 and Echo PB8010. I wanted to add a small handheld blower because sometimes during fall clean ups, I need to clean corners of yards, under shrubs, and the eavestrough on roofs. The big backpacks can't get in there. I have been looking at the Echo PB2620 X series and the Stihl SH86. The echo currently can't be converted to a vac but is cheaper than the Stihl SH86 by $90. I was just wondering if it is worth it to get the vac or simply stick to the smaller handheld and pick up the blown debris.
Please expand on why you "hate" the AWD.
John Ossendorf tough to stear and I absolutly despise it.
4th timemaster? Why wouldnt you get the tuffmaster instead? its a lot more I know but its made for commercial use. Just saying.....
So the turf master has the same transmission
@@JohnnyMow uhmmmm you 100% sure about that? from what I read and reviews I've seen the tuffmaster has bigger and stronger transmission.
@@F.D.Matrix the turf master hdx has updated to a big transmission but the regular turf master has the same tranny just heavier build. I would never own the turf master can’t fold up the handles and it’s very heavy. Very satisfied with the timemaster
@@JohnnyMow yeah fair enough.
I know this video is older. I just bought a 2019 timemaster...curious on how much a transmission costs
Easy to install a trans?
3600 RPM on idle?
Does it mulch as good as the super recycler????
I mean my super recycler mulchers tall grass like it’s nothing.
Question should both wheels spin at the same time?
yes
Mine has issues with the deck clogging up, I use it commercially but where I live I can’t use it in the mornings because of the morning dew, it clogs up instantly with dewy grass. Anyone else have this issue?
Toby, yes, I've heard. I'm surprised Johnny didn't mention. Also heard that the Hondas do very well, with wet grass, and excellent with mulching dry grass.
@@stevecarr1992 Yea.. But Honda needs to come out with a 30" (or better yet a 32") to compete with the Timewaster, I mean Timemaster.. I think Honda only makes the dinky 21"..
howlingwolf125y, Ya Honda lets go I’ll be on board with the 32” idea.
Open the side discharge chute..if the grass is wet.
Bagger
About how much for a new transmission? And about how long does it you to put one on? Thanks again
Mike Thomas I paid 90
Your first time will be a little while about two hours
If u have to do all that why buy it
That mower for me was complete trash.
It states guaranteed to start, that's a lie...
diane nelson lol I think that too sometimes
ANYTHING ! With A Transmission ---> STAY AWAY
"Great machine!" "Well built!" "Favorite machine!" Then goes on to say the most important part, the transmission, starts crapping out at 20 hours?? Sounds like the definition of insanity to me! Keep buying the same old crap! Toro is and always will be a cheap, garbage machine!