Removing tracks on the 850j after visiting with Todd from Truck or Track, but why?
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Shop day with MBTS taking off the 850j tracks and loading them up and a visit with Todd from Truck or Track.
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I've never seen such a big, friendly and close group of working people and friends as I've seen on your channel. It's a real pleasure to see.
Check out CZcamsr CNC equipment. Really knowledgeable
Thanks jack
Gotta give aaron that. He knows his stuff about welding and its other means of metal removal. He is probably greatly appreciated with all his knowledge of his main choice of career
I do love watching both of you working together. You two are the best. You two would make someone good friend .
It's great to hear stories when you first started!
Penetrating oil can help a lot. We spent about an hour trying to drive a pin out on an American 7220 crane with a 16 pound sledge. We decided to lance it out the next morning. We had sprayed some penetrating oil on it when we started. I soaked it down good with Knocker Loose before we quit for the night. We went out the next morning and decided to try to hit it again. On the first hit, the pin shot out and landed 10 feet away. On pins like you had, you can take the grease fitting out, use a drill to clean out the hole, add some penetrating oil, install the grease fitting and use the grease gun to push penetrating oil in. There are also tools like the Grease Buster that use a hammer or air hammer to inject penetrating oil. Penetrating oil needs some time to penetrate. Soak everything down at your first opportunity, don't wait until days later when you try to take it apart.
I was thinking about Diesel Creek, Matt is sponsored by Kroil which we used at General Electric when I was an apprentice machinist!
Totally agree, we use stuff called plus gas, breaks loose pins and bolts very easily but for best results leave it about an hour with repeated applications.
I was under the impression Cap K was a fire fighter for his real job, but that massage action makes me wonder if that's accurate...... ;)
Well, I thought that massage just confirmed the firefighter thing for me. 🤣
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@@dansevern3291 Lol!
Firemen spend so much time doing nothing that the devil will always find a use for their idle minds.
Good morning DP and MBTS from Jamaica 🇯🇲. Thanks for another interesting video. Loving it. Hi Hi Captain welcome to the club 😀😀
I'm so stiff and sore from watching this video, I can hardly move! You and Aaron deserve a bonus for such hard work! So, here ya go: Yeah Team! Blessings, Lee
Good job fun watching you and Aaron work and very interesting to see the use of tool to remove pins
Might be my favorite video of yours, I love to see people getting creative to get things done, thanks DP & MBTS!
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That will be like a new dozer when you get her back together. Love watching this kind of content. That is the life of equipment keeping the maintenance up on it. Thanks for sharing.
In the machine shop I worked in we had a center hole ram, I believe it was a 50 ton ram and we had a 100 ton ram on a porta- power pump! For pulling screw auger pins which actually worked the same way just some of those pins were seized so bad we had heat them at the same time we were jacking them out! Basically the same as what y’all are doing, just wanted to say that Mike! Just if you ever get a bad one, there is a ram with a center hole for pulling! But y’all are doing great my friend! We dealt with seized pins all the time and I would have to go to the machine shop and weld the nut on for the machinist! That’s the only point I was making! Good job guys!
Having the three of you there is great :)
Nice work all ! So satisfying when your pins come out even with a little help !
If you had lowered the rear of the dozer down just enough so the rear drive sprocket teeth connected with the track, then you could have used the dozer to slide the track off
Agree we always use the sprocket as much as we can
Could of pulled it from the top and put the dozer in reverse
Lol no think about that will not work
Awesome content. Loved the team work and that you all were watching out for each other! Aaron is getting back in the swing of things 🤣🤣❤️
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when i ran cat D10's and cat D 11's i ran some that had the narrow pads on them. the narrow pads was called the rock tracks, and yes they was able to push a tad bit more, but when it came time to back fill the job, u was stuck all the time, unless u was able to get down to good and dry dirt with them narrow pads.
so we ran wide pads all the time, and some jobs we still got stuck pushing them back. so i agree the wider pads done way better than the narrower ones. great video to show how u take tracks off.
us we spilt our tracks and just walked onto the loaner tracks, till our tracks came back to us, usually in a few weeks, we had them back with the bushings turned and new grousers welded on.
MBTS is a real good guy!!! You're lucky to have him Mike!!!!!! Treat him good!!!
Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video DP and Aaron
My 850k wlt is exactly the same machine you have with 30” pads. It’s that way from the factory and I love it, it’s a good compromise between 24” and 36” lgp . It floats well and still pushes what ever is in front of it
We put some itr rails on a JD 850c about 2 years ago. One thing to watch for is make sure all your plugs are in the rails. And if you’re interested in more traction with the wider pad weld some ice lugs on the grouser bar in an alternate pattern
Great Job gentlemen, glad captain was their to supervise.
A great video again, guys. Well done. You both sure look ready for a good sleep !
Great video Mike and MBTS enjoyed this video 🇺🇲
I like that custom round the corner spud bar. Nice work guys, as always good video.
Can't wait to see the tile plow for the dozer I wanna see yours and how you made it so I can make one for ours I wanna make one to lay 4 waterpipes at once
Great work ! You had me cussing when I heard Lt. Dan was "Next in the Shop after the 850J" but now I know we're in for some REAL FABRICATION ON A PIPE PLOW. I've come to grips with ANOTHER LT DAN DELAY, but am really anxious to see this project (AND LOTS OF MBTS TIME ! ) His true worth to all things DP is about to be displayed.
Thanks Mike, you guys are an awesome team! Thank you Aaron for demonstrating an air lance operation. The feeling that something dangerous was about to happen was palpable and that MBTS is an amazing boiler maker dude.
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Thanks for the video, its been enjoyable to watch, your explaining of what your attempting to do as the video is rolling is superb, keep them coming.
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Swamp cat! Cracked me up when DP was hammering out that pin and MBTS was trying to use the impact on the other side!
Love the way you guys work. Enjoy watching the interacting and the kidding you all do. Plus you get so much done.
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Another fine comical, educational and practical video extravaganza. DP, MBTS, the Cap'n and Tawd in one place!
With all the fun you have, I don't know how you get all that work done, and it wore me out just watching you swing that maul, anyhow great job.
Mike and Aaron great video, ball busting work! Thanks for sharing! Kevin
Yup great viewing bro and the banter was right up there too. Safe travels
Thanks buddy
Steel toes are good, but can be bad. When my dad was in Thailand one of the guys on the flightline had his toes severed by a steel toe when a plane ran over his foot. Great video guys, good to see the gang back to your usual antics. Be safe and stay healthy all.
Man behind the scenes, that pop was your head on the sign!!! haha nice work as always boys
Awesome video, Got to see Captain and Aaron and of course you Mr. Dirt Perfect
LoL at Cleeman at the end. Quality content Mike :)
consider drilling a relief hole in the center of each pad so you extrude dirt when the chain goes over the drive gear. this can reduce wear on the drive gear as the dirt can escape instead of being packed hard into the gap in the chain/pad.
Great video thanks for sharing have a great day and stay safe out there
I had a blast watching you two work. Don't know what you would have done if Aaron was not there.. Thank you Aaron.. always making me laugh and keeping Mr DP on his toes...
Did a few jobs like this over the years . But they were out in the field on a job . Did have the shop tools out there to use . So that by it self made the job so much more fun . A good share of the time i was by my self do it too . You guys are lucky having the shop to work in. One thing for sure you guys have fun getting thing done !
Todd I would like to clarify what you said. The ground pressure doesn't get lowered overall. Rather wider pads spread ground pressure out. Lowering the ground pressure per square inch. God bless
Great video as always, just keep on doing what your doing,including the antics.looks good,maintenance,maintenance.that’s the key.👍👍👍😎😎😎
Nothing better than a dirt prefect video
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Fantastic video guys, This was a good one, Glad to see Captain K. Love watching, keep these great videos coming. Thank you !
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Good info from Todd. I think bottom line is what and where (ground conditions) will it be used the most to justify cost. Mike you used to say I don't need a ripper! Now you have one and I'm sure you know your area and who your customer may be.
I've never met a welder that wasn't half crazy. Aaron confirms that. He definitely knows his craft. Great job to the both of you 👍
Lol
Aaron and Todd, worth the price of admission. They are great.
DP, MBTS, and Capt. Kleeman it's always awesome video. But we were missing NYAM
I noticed that Aaron was struggling to remove the grease coupler from the zerk. I would recommend that you try a Lock N Lube grease coupler. I saw a guy using a Lock N Lube grease coupler on CZcams. I bought one coupler, then a whole grease gun, then 3 more grease couplers. I love my Lock N Lube grease couplers.
Love watching your jobs.
I am a farm- ranch worker- mechanic.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Good Morning DP and MBTS; Here's a tip for you regarding bed grease fittings. I worked a trucking company that had a tractor with froze king pins. I removed the grease fittings, used a drill to clean out the hole, removed the grease fitting from the power greaser we had and screwed it directly into the spindle. I kicked up the air compressor to 150#, wired the handle back and then turned the steering wheel back and forth until it took grease and moved quite easily. By the time I did all 4 fittings you ;could drive that truck one handed. The owner was so happy to have another truck on line that he bought lunch. Also If the circumstances allow you can use a "King Pin" press to push out those stuck pins on cylinders. I've done that. It saves "Hammer" time. Did you ever get lunch on Todd? Great video.
Will not work on this style stay tuned thanks
Wow! Just like you knew what you're doing! I'm impressed DP!
So LT Dan has been in the shop for a couple months now :) Great Job Boys --- lotta talkin though LOL 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Great work guys. Hard work made look easy! 🙂👍
Great video Mr Dirt Perfect and Aaron
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LOL Captain Kleeman play in the 850 that's funny, enjoyed the video, Thanks
I love watching you guys wort on your equipment
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Mike before you put those pins back in I would spray them with graphite, some may come off on installation, but it will also keep the pin from corroding. and slide in a little easier.
Good work guys done a few of them too sometimes they just super stuck 👍
It’s always too late for coming up with ideas, but I reckon you should get MBTS to build some skate dolly’s to lay those tracks or other heavy items on.
We run 2 machines. One had 24 and one with 30s. Just replaced the one with 24s with a new JD 850L with 30s for traction and floatation. From watching your videos we do a lot of similar work. The 24s definitely had their place but for our overall usage the 30s was more practical.
Good information DP Thanks for the video
It’s a pleasure watching you guys work, you all seem to be great to work with, I’m glad your getting you 850J ready for work, hoping the rest of it goes fine, see you guys on your next video, have a good one Gentlemen 😎😎👍👍👍☀️☀️☀️☀️🍮🍮🍮🍮
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Great vid! That air-lancing tool is wild!
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That pin driver is a simple but ingenious tool. I mentioned it before about feeling a sledgehammer go through my hair when I was in Highschool and had a lot more hair and my CO-OP class boss was swinging the sledgehammer and I was holding the straight bar to drive out a pin on a dump truck suspension.
PHEW...that was too much like work, and as you know "work" is a four letter word Mike. LOL. Great job guys, love the banter. 😂
Beautiful work. Nice job 👍
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Anti seize the threads ,just try it you'll be amazed at the extra it adds to pulling power ! We used O2 lances in the Chase Brass Foundry that were 3/4'' pipes like 6-8' long hooked up to a few big bottles of O2 ,yeah silver fire suits a must and frozen brass or whatever was getting cut/burnt out !
Mike, Todd talked about lifting plats were added by military, you may be able to remove those plats to reduce weight.
I think those kinds of options are permanent, as they would have to be built into the structure of the dozer.
Should also make some really heavy saw horse stands to set your machine onto. Then you have the possibility to lift and move the blade and ripper out of your way when you need to do work around them or say if you need to remove the track frame to do your bottom rollers. Sure makes life easy when the track frames are upside down
it would be a good time to clean and check the rollers to see if they are good
Hi Mike, you sure have Some colorful guys in that shop.
Once again, nice one Aaron 👍😁
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Could you add some floor anchors along that far wall to aid in pulling track? I figure anything simple you can do to make that job easier, safer, and faster is worth considering. Maybe a couple of post you can quickly attach a Come-Along to?
Great video
Its a well known fact that its ALWAYS someone else who broke/ damaged/ lost whatever it is one is doing. I like the magic workshops that change from one to another, with no apparent effort.
Really enjoyed the video.
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A dozen years ago or so in our tire shop we had a guy in the shop trying to do a set of drivers on a tandem grain truck as fast as he could and unfortunately he only had a grip with one hand on the bud gun,,,,, he broke his arm such that he is now working in IT with a decent company instead!!! It was maybe a blessing in disguise as he is a very smart guy!! He types funny, but is quick!! Before the place was sold, he would still help out with our computer system whenever he came back to see his parents. Nice guy. His arm was so badly broken from the elbow down, including several bones in his wrist,,,,, it was almost like jello when we rushed him to the hospital. He passed out a few times from the pain as it was almost 2 hours to the hospital from where we were. They did surgeries (4 or 5 now??) and it looks pretty normal except for the scarring and his wrist doesn’t have much movement, those bud guns are awesome, but,,,,,, don’t mess around!! 2 hands and pay attention!!! There’s sooo much torque in them!!
I love the outro the best.
woop LT dan soon back , blessings.
I hope you (and Jerry!) like the new wider pads. They may sorta condition you to do more straight up and straight back dozing cause I think turning may get a little harder. You should stay on top of the soft ground better though. I look forward to the follow up video.
Wow you guys are finally doing some work right
As a rule of thumb you want the narrowest tracks you can run that will still keep you on top.
On harder ground or ground with a lot of timber you will find your track chain life plummet. Wider grouser plates mean more leverage on the chains and that just kills the life of the chain plus your fuel burn will go up.
I know of several companies that swap tracks on a per job basis depending on conditions. Once you get organised it's not difficult to swap out tracks and while it is an additional cost up front, depending on the types of jobs you do, the savings mount up fairly quickly.
Don't forget that with wider track pads, in rocky terrain, they are more prone to taking damage / bending. This is just because of the longer pad overhang distance. In rocky terrain, the load gets concentrated on the pads hitting the high rocks.
MBTS as the safety manager. You are responsible for checking the condition of tools to be used. Lol God bless
Great information from the man (Todd)
I rented a Case CX210D to clear a lot for pasture. They ask what experince I had running this machine. I told them I was an ER doc, but that I have watched all the dirt perfect and legsdig18 vids. they said that more instruction than a lot of there contractors. It is lot more work the I expected but have fun.
Lol hope it went well
Most of our kit over here run LGP tracks these days (up to D6/Komatsu D65 size) Great vid again Mike 😉👍
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DP: "Just what I always wanted for Christmas, track bolt"
Kleeman: "NUTS!"
HAD ME 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Great video buddy 👍
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I’m ex Military Mike (Royal Engineer) and have done a fair bit of track bashing in my time we used to use the final drives to drive the vehicle off and on the track once split.
As long as one track is connected it remains permanently under control (brake) resulting in no need for jacking up which is difficult in say a main Battle Tank or Heavy Tracked Vehicles.
We would generally have an entire new track laid out straight onto and connected to the old once it had been split this way you simply traverse onto the new one and when you get to the end or joint of the old split them and connect the loose end to the final drive by means of a strong rope ( or chain setup) which you would wind on to the FD like an oversized cotton reel.
It speeds up the changing process no end and worth considering in the future if you have a spare old track length handy?
We of course had rubber pads for road use which would wear quite quickly in Germany given the amount of Road Work we used to do.
Track pads tended to wear quite evenly so it was quicker and cheaper to change and entire set in one go rather than mess about removing sections as and when.
Don’t know if his is of any help but you do have access to flat solid ground at your yard so it might be worth considering in the future 🤷🏻♂️
On the Thermal Lancing …I was involved in stripping out some old Sentry Boxes in Northern Ireland back in the day and one of these Sanger’s was a double 1 /12 -2” “ Steel plate walls with a reinforced concrete cavity about another 6” thick making a wall thickness of almost 10” .
The weight of this thing was so heavy we ended up cutting it up using a thermal landing kit.
It cut through those walls like a knife through butter but the heat generated was quite incredible looking on.
Top video as usual guys you make a great team 👍🏼
Awesome deal good luck
Thanks for sharing!👌🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸
Here in California we at CalTrans had specific things made to order. Our snow plows are thicker then normal.
Good job👍
Great video as allways =)
Hey piece of sandpaper they're really good job with that
That reminds me of the time I had to change the tracks on a big D in the mud in Vietnam, took us a week just for one side, but that was the Army's way of doing things, wait until the weather is rotten.. sure wish we had a large garage like yours...
Great job fixing the pins guys
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