The TRUTH About War

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2023
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  • @mikemcconeghy4658
    @mikemcconeghy4658 Před 11 měsíci +3740

    So, the lesson is that you either let men play poker and drink, or they start killing each other.

  • @MartinCruz-cv7ve
    @MartinCruz-cv7ve Před 11 měsíci +2250

    It's always got to be that one person who starts the war

  • @ArmageddonAngel
    @ArmageddonAngel Před 11 měsíci +2241

    The most unbelievable part of this video is how she reached her husband on a rotary phone by dialing two numbers

    • @Mister-Red
      @Mister-Red Před 11 měsíci +63

      Well back in the day there was less then 100 phone numbers

    • @diobrando5976
      @diobrando5976 Před 11 měsíci +53

      I found it more interesting that she turned the dial in the wrong direction

    • @elisasot8282
      @elisasot8282 Před 11 měsíci +6

      We all wish it was like that

    • @techgoggles
      @techgoggles Před 11 měsíci +10

      speed dial

    • @lightravenn
      @lightravenn Před 11 měsíci +1

      Dis is da wae

  • @deucesommerfeld1248
    @deucesommerfeld1248 Před 11 měsíci +1061

    The Christmas Truce was when both sides got totally disconnected from their loved ones so they returned to the time honored tradition of “war.”

    • @Nobody-hw6jv
      @Nobody-hw6jv Před 11 měsíci +45

      Honestly it's even funnier that it actually happened.

    • @deucesommerfeld1248
      @deucesommerfeld1248 Před 11 měsíci +28

      @@Nobody-hw6jv My FAVORITE event in all of wartime history

    • @daddylonglegs3698
      @daddylonglegs3698 Před 11 měsíci +37

      and adolf was so lame during it too. He kept shooting people on the other side during it and ended the truce for his specific group. It’s always got to be that one fucking guy who ruins everything.

    • @gamera5160
      @gamera5160 Před 11 měsíci +47

      @@deucesommerfeld1248 The Christmas Truce was amazing, but I also have a soft spot for that time when a meteorite struck the battlefield right between the Roman and Pontic armies during the third Mithridatic war. The two armies were about to fight and there was a massive explosion between the two of them when the meteorite struck. Both armies just turned around and left. The gods clearly didn't want them to fight!

    • @deucesommerfeld1248
      @deucesommerfeld1248 Před 11 měsíci +17

      @@gamera5160 And then the gods said Nooooo

  • @zachgaming_ong
    @zachgaming_ong Před 11 měsíci +2339

    Respect for the cameraman for recording this back in the war

  • @echogamer5721
    @echogamer5721 Před 11 měsíci +125

    I was a soldier for 15 years. I fought in two wars.
    I can absolutely confirm that I was only doing it because my wife came to Afghanistan and caught me hanging out with the “enemy” drinking beers.
    Yes, it is worth hundreds of thousands of lives to avoid getting in trouble with the wife.

  • @EliteInExile
    @EliteInExile Před 11 měsíci +252

    In the military. There's always one. Always one guy who just ruins it for everyone else. And this short depicts just how terrible it can get because of "that one guy". 😂

  • @GrimDMasterMind
    @GrimDMasterMind Před 11 měsíci +246

    There is always that one guy that has to mess things up for everyone....

    • @alexsp4853
      @alexsp4853 Před 11 měsíci +20

      In this Story it wasnt even adolf. Well at the beginning at least

    • @superiorduck3736
      @superiorduck3736 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@alexsp4853 It wasn't him in our story either.

    • @garrettcarlson6835
      @garrettcarlson6835 Před 9 měsíci

      That's what happens when you leave them out of the loop :/

  • @apexhunter935
    @apexhunter935 Před 11 měsíci +493

    War is the friends we made along the way

    • @AmTrFilms
      @AmTrFilms Před 11 měsíci +17

      Friends are the war we made along the way

    • @calencrawford2195
      @calencrawford2195 Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@AmTrFilms War freinds are the we made the way along

    • @ramseykim695
      @ramseykim695 Před 11 měsíci +12

      way is the friends we made along the war

    • @DetaDragon
      @DetaDragon Před 11 měsíci +8

      we are the way that war made along the friends

    • @TeraChad23
      @TeraChad23 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@DetaDragon we the friends ware that made yes

  • @bacon_man21
    @bacon_man21 Před 11 měsíci +840

    Lesson: Never bring your wife to work. It won't end well.

  • @chadjones967
    @chadjones967 Před 11 měsíci +340

    Classic C&H skit, really wholesome until it suddenly isn't anymore.

  • @jebeifinn443
    @jebeifinn443 Před 11 měsíci +504

    Then there was that one snitch and war evoled into real thing

    • @seanlittle2148
      @seanlittle2148 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Well now we gotta cover our tracks and have a war. 😂

    • @seanlittle2148
      @seanlittle2148 Před 11 měsíci +1

      🍻

    • @captain_birdfaced
      @captain_birdfaced Před 11 měsíci +12

      yeah that’s the joke

    • @VIXIN_2003
      @VIXIN_2003 Před 11 měsíci

      That’s why ww2 happened because some German basterd told everyone’s wives

    • @timothyonipad
      @timothyonipad Před 11 měsíci +12

      And they blame Men for all the world problems 😂😅🙄

  • @jacob3992
    @jacob3992 Před 11 měsíci +167

    There's always a guy who brings his girl to bring unfathomable destruction to the group

    • @coalcreekdefense8106
      @coalcreekdefense8106 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Fuckin' Carl, man.

    • @bdkq1902
      @bdkq1902 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Yeah. Screw Carl for ruining the party night with the boys.

  • @Deas-Mhumhna
    @Deas-Mhumhna Před 11 měsíci +375

    It would be amazing for this channel to do history reflections in its own style. I don't think I would be able to breath with how much ridiculous things happen in history.

    • @lennart-oimel9933
      @lennart-oimel9933 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Love the Idea. Like Tarantino!

    • @justin9202
      @justin9202 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Real life history is already crazy enough as it is

    • @Deas-Mhumhna
      @Deas-Mhumhna Před 11 měsíci

      @@justin9202 this why it works for his channel😁

  • @citrussam8113
    @citrussam8113 Před 11 měsíci +93

    I guess war wasnt as i remembered it.

    • @alexandrefillot9600
      @alexandrefillot9600 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Most historically accurate War moment in COD Vanguard be like.

  • @mylvin3183
    @mylvin3183 Před 11 měsíci +69

    I like how even the ping pong ball stopped mid-air after that announcement.

  • @DecepticonFan21
    @DecepticonFan21 Před 11 měsíci +147

    That woman doomed the entire world

    • @masonfarrow8655
      @masonfarrow8655 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Her name must've been Helen.

    • @LuneWatcher
      @LuneWatcher Před 11 měsíci +23

      Or Eve, or Pandora
      strange that women keep getting blamed for awful stuff in myth and history

    • @DecepticonFan21
      @DecepticonFan21 Před 11 měsíci +16

      ​@@LuneWatcherWomen☕

    • @thabangsibanda3282
      @thabangsibanda3282 Před 11 měsíci +27

      No it's the snitch that brought the woman.

    • @hashira910
      @hashira910 Před 11 měsíci +12

      ​@@thabangsibanda3282simp*

  • @HandfulofComments
    @HandfulofComments Před 11 měsíci +11

    4:34
    Literally plot armor

  • @AndyHappyGuy
    @AndyHappyGuy Před 11 měsíci +15

    Percy: "I'm in full health!"
    Also Percy: 5:10

  • @gabrielquinterotobon1812
    @gabrielquinterotobon1812 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Man. the Soviet soldier just hugging the Stalin snowman on minute 2:23 is just so wholesome

    • @SAEshorts
      @SAEshorts Před 9 měsíci +3

      🥺 this is too precious! Even though stalin was harsh, but this made me smile. Why couldn't the cold War just be about the allies having a snowball fight and having fun.

  • @JOE-ft3gq
    @JOE-ft3gq Před 11 měsíci +101

    3:44 I like this woman’s happy face about death of her fiancé, she is mental for causing the war.

    • @cyberphantom665
      @cyberphantom665 Před 11 měsíci

      The woman response with a scheming face. “That’s right, keep killing each other, don’t want your wife’s know about your lies.”

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 Před 10 měsíci +2

      So realistic

  • @boneappletea3858
    @boneappletea3858 Před 11 měsíci +9

    3:07 the ping pong ball froze lol

  • @rusinoe8364
    @rusinoe8364 Před 11 měsíci +39

    War... war never changes.

  • @geoffreywilson7008
    @geoffreywilson7008 Před 11 měsíci +102

    I was half expecting her to still be sitting in the back of the war torn scenery, eyeballing them as they left and yelling "I knew it!"

    • @TheForbiddenChode
      @TheForbiddenChode Před 4 měsíci

      I bet she’s got a tv, bunch of books just waiting. Entertaining herself until she sees them break character.

  • @cmacdhon
    @cmacdhon Před 11 měsíci +128

    Incredibly funny and sad at the same time. I almost peed myself when the guy opened his jacket and half of his body was blown away 😂

  • @TheNonameHousehold
    @TheNonameHousehold Před 11 měsíci +90

    You got me in the first half sense it was confirmed that war was a thing in this universe in previous videos, but I didn't know this is how the fighting started, I apologize on behalf of all women 🤣🤣🤣

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio Před 11 měsíci +79

    The last two men could've "continued" the "war" and ask for "reinforcements" and get back to how it used to be.

  • @fredbear7562
    @fredbear7562 Před 11 měsíci +20

    I would have told the wife they’re on a “Christmas truce”.

    • @joachimb5721
      @joachimb5721 Před 10 měsíci +2

      They could have just shot the wife and the husband.

  • @magikaros
    @magikaros Před 11 měsíci +8

    6:28 Battlfield 1 moment

  • @lewisbarclay9113
    @lewisbarclay9113 Před 11 měsíci +14

    ....Why was the most disturbing thing about a video about war the serene smile on her face as men started killing each other for real, and her husband dying at her feet?

  • @saxonray4071
    @saxonray4071 Před 11 měsíci +8

    5:59
    The Wilhelm scream 😂

  • @AvyScottandFlower
    @AvyScottandFlower Před 11 měsíci +484

    C&H risking getting cancelled for telling too much of the truth ☠️
    I like it

    • @Wehrmicel
      @Wehrmicel Před 11 měsíci +13

      cancelled ?we're not on twitter

    • @JonkoSlunko
      @JonkoSlunko Před 11 měsíci

      Like Twitter freaks have a brain lol

    • @bubeable
      @bubeable Před 11 měsíci

      Truth? So when men didn't return home before it's because they drank themselves to death?

    • @nise6699
      @nise6699 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@Wehrmicelfor now

    • @Ranzord95
      @Ranzord95 Před 11 měsíci +3

      this is becoming some boogeyman stuff already

  • @anonimanonim2710
    @anonimanonim2710 Před 10 měsíci +4

    "It's a war! Maybe never; I don't know! Jeez!"
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW Před 11 měsíci +10

    4:05 ok he deserves that how did he not feel that coming

  • @classicalsrock
    @classicalsrock Před 10 měsíci +3

    4:45 "There a draft in here or what?"
    Expected it and didn't disappoint

  • @rubiks_20
    @rubiks_20 Před 11 měsíci +5

    1:33 “Ah, this ‘war’ thing is hard to keep up!”
    *”No Scheiße”*

  • @IAmDublin
    @IAmDublin Před 11 měsíci +9

    Thank you for the Wilhelm Scream. I really appreciated that!

  • @rideroll9609
    @rideroll9609 Před 11 měsíci +9

    2:35 best delivery ever 🤣😂😂

  • @TigerTigerII
    @TigerTigerII Před 11 měsíci +5

    Aw, it was cute how they hugged Comrade Snowman

  • @Angel_Scum666
    @Angel_Scum666 Před 11 měsíci +32

    For some reason, this recent release of yours has me feeling intense poptropica Vietnam flashbacks 😂 The strong nostalgia is quite a bit weird

    • @KnightQQ
      @KnightQQ Před 5 měsíci

      Poptropica? You mean that game with islands and their problems to solve?

  • @Leanzazzy
    @Leanzazzy Před 10 měsíci +18

    Damn, it was really wholesome when it was just the boys ❤

  • @g3m1n12
    @g3m1n12 Před 11 měsíci +39

    I surprised they forgot that war can sometimes have…..”casualties”. It would have solved the whole issue no problem.

  • @d00mnoodle
    @d00mnoodle Před 11 měsíci +7

    This one was violent man wth... The guy ripped in half with his intestines out and the other who got ran over by a tank... Dark... I love it!

  • @william.h7594
    @william.h7594 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Funny story. My great great uncle, a German army captain was caputred by the Americans in France during the Battle of the Bulge. He expected to be given bad treatment as he was a captain in the 5th panzer division. He and a couple of Fallschirmjager, and a few infantrymen surrendered to Americans, as the rest retreated. They gave them beers and talked to them about family back home. Realizing almost everyone they captured could speak English, they shared stories before being processed and put into prisoner camps. They learned songs from the Americans and they also taught the Americans some songs like auf kreta bei sturm und bei regen, and panzerlied. They then had a group prayer about the safety of their family and fellow soldiers before being sent in a half track to be processed. He said he then realized that these weren't bad men, but just men caught in a crossfire of war. He first began officer-training mainly to(not making this up) to get a better chance with girls. He wasn't bad looking or anything, but he wanted to impress a specific girl into dating him, since officers had a better chance with girls. BUT, she married a common corporal, which pissed him off, but didn't piss him off enough to quit officer school. He genuinely thought what Germany was doing was right, and that it was his duty to reunite the German people into one brotherhood. It was only after the war he learned about the fates of his Jewish neighbors who disappeared when he came back for leave.

    • @el-sig2249
      @el-sig2249 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yes. I've heard a few such stories. So sad that they had to shoot at each other.

  • @Jayn0x
    @Jayn0x Před 11 měsíci +15

    The end is surprisingly wholesome

  • @DeadShot86486
    @DeadShot86486 Před 11 měsíci +6

    3:33 the real reason he shot the other guy was because he broke his beer.

  • @yameznonpartisan7557
    @yameznonpartisan7557 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The best c&h show sketch. With an alternate ending at that lmao

  • @Fire-superme
    @Fire-superme Před 10 měsíci +2

    Dude this video is really old and my favorite, I had lost it (Could have been taken down due to old CZcams) but I am glad it’s back! :D

  • @napizhere2652
    @napizhere2652 Před 11 měsíci +9

    2:58 bro… there’s Always that one MF 😂

  • @rockinggamerdude
    @rockinggamerdude Před 3 měsíci +3

    6:19 now I kind of wonder if this ever happened before, and war

  • @ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames
    @ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames Před 11 měsíci +119

    One of the few channels that doesn't fear demonitization such as the german helms. 10/10 for the girth on this lad.

  • @ahijahjoseph2142
    @ahijahjoseph2142 Před 11 měsíci +5

    So the wife started the war the fact she said keep killing 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jpfishing2900
    @jpfishing2900 Před 11 měsíci +9

    The German " Ja Ja " is perfect😁

  • @tarango759
    @tarango759 Před 11 měsíci +4

    *"War... War never changes."*
    _Sip beer._

  • @figo3554
    @figo3554 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I am so happy they're doing longer form videos.

  • @wildmansamurai3663
    @wildmansamurai3663 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Love the longer videos. 👊😎

  • @footofwolf2186
    @footofwolf2186 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The Christmas Truce in 1914 at the beginning of WW1 actually had a similar thing happen!

  • @xuanbachlai5371
    @xuanbachlai5371 Před 11 měsíci +11

    I love how the skit ended in "War rages on..." which implied that if one of them had killed the other, war would have ended, they were the last person on either side. Kinda messed up there.💀💀💀

  • @calvinsalguero5275
    @calvinsalguero5275 Před 10 měsíci +2

    6:30 they push we push

  • @heather1084
    @heather1084 Před 11 měsíci +6

    A video on my birthday
    Must be a Thursday

  • @TESkyrimizer
    @TESkyrimizer Před 11 měsíci +280

    Come on, you seriously think people would spend trillions of dollars to kill some guys when they can spend it on booze and poker?
    Honestly this is a pretty believable conspiracy.

    • @Okarabouzouklis
      @Okarabouzouklis Před 11 měsíci +5

      Lol

    • @r3dp9
      @r3dp9 Před 11 měsíci

      Now that you mention it, you could probably bribe most russians and some uks with a fraction of the budget we're spending on weapons.

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 Před 11 měsíci +18

      They do spend it on guns and bombs, but it's for blowing up watermelons instead of each other

    • @Armetar
      @Armetar Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@battlesheep2552 and sending manhole covers in to space

  • @Kskillz2
    @Kskillz2 Před 11 měsíci +28

    History on War???
    Must be a Thursday!

  • @UnlimitedProduction1
    @UnlimitedProduction1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I saw this clip years ago and I think about it regularly lol this is so funny and creative

  • @stupit467
    @stupit467 Před 11 měsíci +34

    Lesson learned: The most cruel side of humanity exists solely because of women

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 Před 11 měsíci

      WMD Women of Mass Destruction

    • @inseditsChannel
      @inseditsChannel Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah because they brought us into this world by birth, you're part of the inclusion.

    • @NickyYey
      @NickyYey Před 11 měsíci +3

      Women☕️

    • @voxelamateur
      @voxelamateur Před 10 měsíci +1

      that's right! I was bullied at school/uni and then later in adult life many times because other guys wanted to impress their girls

    • @stupit467
      @stupit467 Před 8 dny

      @@voxelamateur yeah. that might have to do with the guys being jerks and not actually women.
      just doing some damage assessment here, women are not actually the problem

  • @psikogeek
    @psikogeek Před 11 měsíci +3

    I have never seen D-Day portrayed so ...
    comically.

  • @kjs8719
    @kjs8719 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think they needed to all agree to unalive that one guy and his wife before she could tell anyone

  • @KrYpTKaRnage
    @KrYpTKaRnage Před 10 měsíci

    Your videos are still so good. I have so many vids to catch up on

  • @codyponto8403
    @codyponto8403 Před 11 měsíci

    This is absolutely terrable…. It’s also everything I needed ! Love it

  • @muckwhile
    @muckwhile Před 11 měsíci +6

    This might be the most brutal cyanide and happiness in a while

  • @stylesrj
    @stylesrj Před 11 měsíci +3

    So the Battle Of Thermopylae was where the 300 Spartans held up the Persians at the pass in order to play volleyball?
    Then one guy found a secret path to Leonidas's beer stash behind the pass and Xerxes said "Hey man, party foul!"
    So the Spartans let him take the beer and move on to the other cities. Of course, Leonidas sent a runner on ahead to let the other cities know that the party was heading their way and they should prepare for the Immortals. For every one that passes out from drinking, another takes his place to continue the keggar...

  • @adrenalwheel8574
    @adrenalwheel8574 Před 10 měsíci +1

    "So this is war" stops playing jump rope with trip mine LOL😂😂

  • @kadidotognuratreb8267
    @kadidotognuratreb8267 Před 11 měsíci +2

    3:56 their animation is getting better

  • @Nobody-hw6jv
    @Nobody-hw6jv Před 11 měsíci +3

    4:58 funniest moment in whole video

  • @OdinGreif
    @OdinGreif Před 11 měsíci +4

    The history channel at 3Am be like:

  • @LukeLintula
    @LukeLintula Před 11 měsíci +5

    If they had just killed the wife, and the husband, this wouldn’t have happened

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands Před 11 měsíci +5

    _"War... Has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war becomes routine."_

    • @calencrawford2195
      @calencrawford2195 Před 11 měsíci +1

      _"war changed has. The battlefield under is when control total, routine war becomes."_

    • @falloutgamer347
      @falloutgamer347 Před 11 měsíci

      @@calencrawford2195 master yoda, you survived...

    • @calencrawford2195
      @calencrawford2195 Před 11 měsíci

      @@falloutgamer347 make almost sense, yoda master two left braincells survived.

    • @falloutgamer347
      @falloutgamer347 Před 11 měsíci

      @@calencrawford2195 now you will experience the full power of the dark side

    • @calencrawford2195
      @calencrawford2195 Před 11 měsíci

      @@falloutgamer347 side dark ecneirepxe evernay, evernay, evernay.

  • @natknutson1482
    @natknutson1482 Před 11 měsíci +3

    She absolutely knew what she was doing when she said to not stop on her account. She knew.

  • @hunterjump2234
    @hunterjump2234 Před 11 měsíci +15

    This is one of my favourite Cyanide and happiness episodes it would be great if war was really like the beginning just guys getting away from their wives.

  • @armenmartirosyannn
    @armenmartirosyannn Před 10 měsíci

    I loved watching this guy's videos

  • @aul6883
    @aul6883 Před 11 měsíci +3

    2:17
    The Cold War😂😂

  • @Caterpple
    @Caterpple Před 10 měsíci +4

    No snitching 0:40

  • @Spooky-Clown
    @Spooky-Clown Před 26 dny

    Really cool to see Matt voice other characters than Matt from Eddsworld! Hope to see/hear him again :)

  • @doggonemess1
    @doggonemess1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    2:30 So basically nothing has changed with the Navy. XD

  • @maybritschnellbacher6840
    @maybritschnellbacher6840 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I'm German and I think the german words were spoken almost without an accent

  • @KDannXII
    @KDannXII Před 11 měsíci +3

    There's always the 1 guy that brings his wife to everything

  • @appletree3541
    @appletree3541 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Loving the full auto muskets and bayonets

  • @Otryvik
    @Otryvik Před 10 měsíci +1

    and here we have our favorite episode

  • @RookieREX
    @RookieREX Před 11 měsíci +4

    WOAH, Nice guts guys n' gals!
    that was shockingly well animated, I can't wait to see this quality content improve :)
    WE NEED GUTS AND GLORYYYYYY

  • @anonymousmonkey9491
    @anonymousmonkey9491 Před 11 měsíci +4

    this is why you don't bring a +1 to a guy's day out without telling anyone

  • @TheEternalHellwalker
    @TheEternalHellwalker Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ahhh so the D in D-Day stood for Drinking!
    Makes total sense now.

  • @anirudhrai1248
    @anirudhrai1248 Před 11 měsíci

    Dude, these are literally "Short Films". And such amazing ones.

  • @mike3816
    @mike3816 Před 10 měsíci +3

    This is so shallow, deep, satirical, historical, disrespectful and inspiring all at the same time xD

  • @khukri_wielderxxx1962
    @khukri_wielderxxx1962 Před 11 měsíci +4

    C&H just gave away the Army's greatest secret.....

  • @jairdoest9121
    @jairdoest9121 Před 11 měsíci

    Good vid bro keep up the good work 👍

  • @mimaps
    @mimaps Před 10 měsíci

    03:07 even the ball stopped being gangsta 😭

  • @comicslanding9611
    @comicslanding9611 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I remember this!!!! 😂🔥🔥

  • @brave2425
    @brave2425 Před 11 měsíci +19

    Is war necessary?😂

  • @nixodian108
    @nixodian108 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I really love the remakes

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Gotta love Percy.

  • @theTeleforce
    @theTeleforce Před 11 měsíci +12

    Soldiers fighting the actual war would probably have gotten a kick out of this.

    • @r3dp9
      @r3dp9 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I wasn't a combat vet, but knowing their sense of humor, most would likely get a few chuckles out of this. Depends on what exactly they'd seen and how well their minds coped with what they'd seen, though, that varies from person to person.

    • @almightyk11
      @almightyk11 Před 11 měsíci

      I had some chuckles then it went for another 4 minutes