Drinker's Chasers - Could Disney Actually Sell Lucasfilm? Who Would Buy It?
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2023
- Recently rumours have been swirling that Disney is short on cash and needs to make up the shortfall, and one option might be to offload their least profitable studio. But could it actually happen? Could they really sell off Lucasfilm? And who would even want to buy it at this point?
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If lucas buys it off them for discount thats the biggest heist in Hollywood
Well if you saw other Videos on this rumor, they bring up the similar scenario with power Rangers
Yeah, imagine letting them buy it for 4 billion, letting them ruin it and buying it back for 1-2billion and bringing it back to life. It's the most get woke go broke moment since 2015, when all the companies went insane.
never happening
@@draxrdax7321 One symbolic Dollar is enough.
Not more.
@@draxrdax7321 It's the same people who made Episode 1-3. "Back to life"??
It's impressive that disney was able to take the greatest merchandising juggernaut and turn it into a loss.
This is what happens when you let people with no real world experience, run your company and make the big decisions! Star Wars was hugely successful, because George respected the fan base, and catered to what the customer wants. Since Kathleen took over, she ran it like her own private studio doing whatever she wants. That woman's hubris knows no bounds!
I agree with the message but surprisingly, Pokemon is actually the most valuable IP in history
@@AndrewThoesen That actually still shocks me,....
Pokemon - $92.121 billion
Hello Kitty - $80.026 billion
Winnie the Pooh - 75.034 billion
Micky Mouse & Friends - 70.587 billion
Star Wars - $65.0285 billion
Anpanman - $60.285 billion
Get Woke
Go Broke
It's that simple.
They did the same with Power Rangers and they almost destroyed that IP
A film about disney's crippling finacial situation would be more interesting than anything disney themselves have released in a long while.
drinker just did a postive review on his main channel of the menu which is something disney produced lol
Helen Hunt plays an unhinged Kathleen Kennedy
Kathleen Kennedy could be cast as a black woman and Bob Iger the first trans CEO.
"I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they told you in Forbes, Bob Iger was never biologically male"
@@cokemaster3710 I'm gonna say my hypothetical film would be more interesting than The Menu, just so I don't need to delete my comment.
Lucas sold Star Wars when he was 69, and wanted to focus on family life. At 79, hard to see him being able to fix such a big mess and he likely doesn't have much years left in this world. Disney selling Lucasfilm back is admitting defeat and will need much more compensation than when they bought it. Lucas is only $5 billion in net worth at this time. Disney at this point would rather burn things to the ground.
"Disney saying 'we're gonna re-invent the wheel' ...and accidentally making it into a square"
Fuckin' brilliant 😂
Accurate, tbh
It was no accident.
"SQUARES MAKE THE BESTEST WHEELS!"
-Disney, probably.
@@KoKoraaaaaaaa1995 😂😂
"Wheels are systemically racist"
~Corporate neofascies, probably.
Well according to South Park Canadian people have square wheels... I always assumed that was a real thing
Kathleen Kennedy is still not fired after screwing up Star Wars thoroughly and she has the ultimate job security.
She MUST have a video of a child orgy with high members of Hollywood participating or some equally fucked up shit in her sleeve, otherwise it doesn't make any fucking sense
Damn, she must be the archaeologist of the century cause she definitely found a T-rex sized skeleton in one of (if not multiple of) the executive's closets.
Clearly this has zero proof... but there have been rumors of hidden losses via FTX and Kathy knows the details.
@@blazichaos7181 Maybe she is the t-rex skeleton 😂
She knows who graped how many kids on Epstein Island
I'll give Disney about three fiddy for star wars.
Get out of here you god dang Loch Ness monster!
Yeah okay loch Ness monster
@@dylaa9782 beat me to it 😂
Lucas sold Star Wars when he was 69, and wanted to focus on family life. At 79, hard to see him being able to fix such a big mess and he likely doesn't have much years left in this world. Disney selling Lucasfilm back is admitting defeat and will need much more compensation than when they bought it. Lucas is only $5 billion in net worth at this time. Disney at this point would rather burn things to the ground.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth so would three fiddy be enough Orr…
Kenobi is what lead me to completely give up on Star Wars. It was SOOOO bad.. even the child actress called it rubbish
I hy did you need so long to find that out?
I was already pretty checked out and I never even watched episode 9 but I thought WTH, I'll try Kenobi, I quit after 4 episodes and I've zero interest in watching anymore Disney Star Wars. It was trash and the final nail in the coffin.
You know your show is trash when even a 10 year old is dunking on it
she said the chase scene wasnt good not the entire show.
way to over exaggerate what she said to validate your perspective
Everytime i list of the reasons why modern Star Wars is dead, i forget about Kenobi.
None of you seem to remember that there is precedence. Haim Saban sold Power Rangers for 3.2 billion to Disney and then bought it back again for 60 million.
Also, The Little Platoon makes a good point, but forgets that Disney needs to pay Comcast billions for its stake in Hulu at a time when everything is going badly for Disney because they forgot how to cater to their core audience. This is the point that may FORCE a sale for Disney that wasn't discussed.
They'll just get a bigger esg loan and boom problem solved.
Yup, there is a precedent. This is not the ridiculous impossibility that the panel seems to claim.
I see the precedent but tbh, I don't think that's exactly the same. Power Rangers as big as it is, it's nothing compared to what Star Wars is culturally speaking. The Power Rangers IP selling went basically unnoticed, while there is no way they can sell Star Wars and not have it being in pretty much every media in the world as the biggest failure in media ever. Selling SW now will be literally like Disney admitting "yeah, we fuck it up giving this thing to KK, get woke go broke". It would be a PR disaster in so many levels I can't aven imagine. Todays Disney wouldn't allow that.
Exactly, a lot of people seem to be forgetting this. Heard people say well it's because Power Rangers wouldn't make 3.2 billion back. I think they forget the same thing Disney forgot, Power Rangers merchandise was everywhere much like Star Wars. Every episode and movie is like a giant ad for toys.
They sold it because they ran it into the dirt like they have with Star Wars and it's popularity faded. Very similar situation and it could well end the same way.
@@CaspianNomad All very true. I certainly don't know anything about whether Lucasfilm is going to be sold, I just don't think it's a "dumb" topic that the panel and a lot of viewer responses would indicate. A lot of the talk about this seems to be coming from an emotional reaction which doesn't make for interesting discussion in my opinion. That being said, I love love love Critical Drinker, I think he has one of the absolute best CZcams channels out there, I just think the framing of this particular discussion was weak.
I'm genuinely baffled that the people at lucasfilm genuinely think a Rey movie is a good idea
How on hell those geniuses came up with this))? Now that original SW cast aint coming back, they think Rey will save Disney in real life the way Rey saved the universe in film 😂😂😂 Except nobody cares about her character, nobody even wants to accept her as cannon 😂
@@Turanic1 Knowing Disney, they'll probably just revive Han and Luke with some lazy bullshit explanation. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it with an AI voiced Leia, too. It would be the just about the dumbest move they could make, but they're dumb enough to try it
@@filmandfirearms They might as well remake the OG trilogy if they're that desparate to get the OG cast back.
Well, their standard is: wamin =good, mans =bad
They’re not looking at if it’s a good idea or not? The only thing they’re focused on is pushing their garbage woke feminist agenda.
-Buy Star Wars
-retcon all ST material
-canonize EU again
-Sell the right to make a few movies to directors who know what the fuck they're doing
-Let indie devs make games for a 15% of the cut (a bit like Touhou, tho they let fan games be without charging at all for the IP)
-Make a sequel to the MMORPG, maybe the guys that make the Parhfinder games could writte the story.
- Release an updated version of the old action figures, with better articulation and quality of sculping.
-Space the announcements of all of these on the span of 2/3 years so that the costumers don't get overwhelmed.
- P R O F I T
Seriously, SW was an IP that imprinted money by existing, you just had to let people do the work for you and charge them a bit for the right to work with it and the money rolled without much of a problem. But nah, Disney had to put an iron hold on the IP and only their SW was the one allowed to exist. That turned out well XD
@Bill Clinton Enjoyer Oh yeah, I was responding to the title of the video, and sharing ways I think a buyer of the IP could fix SW current reputation. Disney only deserves bankruptcy, and all the creative directors involved with them a blacklist (except those that tried to do their thing but couldn't because of the corpos being corpos. Like the original director of Rogue One, poor guy was done dirty)
@Bill Clinton Enjoyer that probably explains why nobody watched Andor
They’re too used to all the other sludge Disney and lucasfilm churned out before it that they couldn’t handle good writing
I'd rather starwars died at this point tbh. Some IPs like lord of the rings and starwars should be left to history instead of being chew toys for hollywood corpos.
They guys at Owlcat games don't write the stories of the games. They just make videogames out of already existing Adventure paths.
@@derpherp7432 Agree and disagree. If they're not going to let good work be produced, then yeah, let the IP die. But if you handle the IP well, select competent people with real passion and talent for the IP to work with it, then why not? The setting of both SW and LotR are so rich and full of possible stories to tell, you just need to give the option to make said stories to those capable of making them, and if spaced correctly, people won't get tired of It. This is why I hate Disney with a passion, they not only made only bad content for years, they also bombarded us with, series after series, film after film, non-stop sludge till people has finally run out of goodwill and patience for it
“Oh yeah, and there was Willow”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Keynote WAS lmao
The way he laughed himself out of frame is definitely meme worthy.
And then there wasn't Willow...
I think they may well end up sitting on the franchise just to deny it to any potential rival company that could actually make Star Wars profitable again.
So like Konami with their many, MANY IPs turned into skins for fucking Pachinko machines. Yeah, I see it
@@jackmesrel4933 Or like rights to many moderately successful books are bought en masse not to turn them into movies, but to deny them to competition.
Difference is Disney isn’t making any money and has a 4billion bill coming up.
Half the sale was in shares, if Lucasfilm is no longer profitable and Disney need the money they'll likely sell it for him for the shares back plus a few hundred million cash. They need the money for the Comcast deal and to keep themselves afloat.
Just like Fox with the Fantastic Four.
I find this hard to swallow. It is literally an admission that they are creatively impotent to the point that they are giving IP’s away. I hope I am wrong but their evidenced level of hubris makes this a tough sell.
Hard to swallow? That's what she said!
The problem is that they have a franchise and company they can literally do NOTHING with. On top of that, they've got financial issues, as seen in their MOST recent firing of 1000s and vaulting of products just RECENTLY made. It's better for them to sell it off and get another couple of billion back in the bank.
The other problem is that it simply doesn't solve their issue with their commitment to the very politics that is destroying the company. Even IF they sell it back to George, George can simply make more (authentic) Star Wars stories again, while the other company (Disney) will STEAL bleed money and talent. Also, George would need to flush the toxic elements out of his reclaimed company as well.
Re-makes and endless sequels are direct evidence they have nothing new to offer.
Ditto... I think the likelihood is pretty low that they sell. They did the same thing a few years ago with both ESPN and the ABC news department... it's all to show stockholders a show... still, we can hope
It's all been confirmed
You know the irony about the decline of Star Wars, Disney pretty much did it to themselves. They had an entire EU they could've made content from, adapting it for a series or their own films, but instead they decide to gut all that. Instead, we got a poor rehash of the OT and it only served to harm the franchise as a result.
The EU are great stories but we already knew them. Even Georges supposed treatments weren't going to stick to the EU.
Imagine being Kathleen Kennedy, and being solely responsible for destroying both Star Wars and Indiana Jones alongside iconic characters like Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Indiana Jones and things are so utterly bad that the rumor is Disney is gonna sell these properties off to someone else because they destroyed them beyond repair….and yet I’m positive she still thinks she did a good job.
She probably walks the halls of Disney/Lucasfilm, proudly wearing her 'THE FORCE IS FEMALE' t-shirt, both hands out, getting high-fives from all the simps who worship the ground she walks on, shouting in unison "YAAAAS SLAAAY QUEEEEN!!"
She might be one of those Russian sleeper agents. Or CIA. How else could an abject failure keep her job after losing money for 60 straight months?
A lot of her type think 'the message' is more important than profits. They need to singlehandedly overcome Trump's 4 years by force feeding 'the message' to kids.
Oh yeah Kathleen Kennedy thinks she’s a genius pushing her woke feminist bs and making “a place for women in Star Wars” even though there already is!?! But I doubt she’s even seen the original Star Wars movies. She’s never wrong, is a champion for “diversity and feminism” and we the fans are just a bunch of toxic, sexist, racist bigots who hate women. That’s how what’s left of her brain works.
I agree with Little Platoon that Disney aren't desperate enough to sell Lucasfilm yet, but them allowing Dave Filoni to direct a movie kind of seems to me like they're starting to panic, like they just now realized they can't just pump out literal garbage and have it make millions (not saying everything Dave makes is gold but he's the closest thing to a fan pleaser they have working there currently).
George buying back Lucasfilm and saying "yeah, sequel trilogy ain't canon" would be the fairy tale ending, though, for sure.
Luke awakes in his cold stone hut on his craggy, isolated island, feeling disoriented.
"What a horrible dream!" he exclaims, as he throws on his robes and heads over to the grey stone, thatched roof cabin where his friend Han Solo is hiding out (temporarily!) from law enforcement of several galactic entities.
"Puttin' coffee on, General Solo!" he shouts as Han appears, looking disheveled as a Hollywood actor in the doorway.
"Make it strong, kid. I had this awful dream about a horrible girl Jedi..."
Luke stops in his tracks.
"Super powerful in the Force from the first time she heard of it? Knows everything about it? Can't act?" he inquired.
Han looks puzzled.
"Yeah, that's about it. Awful dream. You died, I died."
"Did we have the same dream...errr...nightmare?" asked Luke.
"Sounds like it. Get that coffee goin', I think today's the day we head out on our last mission, kid."
"About time." says Luke as Han heads towards the Falcon to prep for their long, dangerous journey.
( _From The Screenwriters' Guide, Chapter 4: Endings "Suddenly they awoke. It had all been a dream!"_ )
Opening of Star Wars, Episode 7, circa 2028. Will this do?
Episode 7 opens with Luke (Sebastian Stan) and Ahsoka in that weird timeline portal area from Star Wars Rebels standing over the "dead" body of Palpatine and watching scenes from the Disney Sequel Trilogy. Luke-"Wait, why would I attack Ben in his sleep? I found the good in Anakin and he led to the murder of millions!" Yes, the Disney sequel trilogy was all due to Palpatine manipulating events from the weird timeline portal area. Or Ahsoka's show "does something to the timeline."
Filoni does what Kennedy want him to do. He's not better than the other people in charge of star wars.
Disney needs to pay a 9B, at the smallest, bill by Jan to Comcast. The do not have that money. As for getting a loan, they already have outstanding loans they haven’t paid back from Covid.
So Iger is so afraid to fire KK he'd rather sell Lucasfilm knowing that no one accepts her continuing employment.
my guess is shes blackmailing him with a secret sex tape she'll release if he fires her... lol.
I have no doubt that Kathleen Kennedy is running some sort of blackmail bring to keep her job. She probably has dirt on everyone from the Weinstein days.
Must be hiding some dark shit
She’s protected from on high by the Blackrock and Vanguard bigwigs. That’s why she can’t be fired.
@@DeusExMachina10001 - Looked it up. The Dark Side is heavily invested in Disney.
Rise of Skywalker wasn't just a 'bad film'. It nuked the franchise. The 'Force' could suddenly do anything the writers wanted it to do including teleportation and bringing people back from the dead, which made it utterly meaningless. If there are no constraints on what your hero can do there is no jeopardy and therefore no suspense or tension (same issue as with Captain Marvel).
One of the worst films of 2019
Absolutely. You had writers without the barest understanding of science fiction writing a science fiction property. Do they not understand world building? Internal consistency? Rules of magic (or "sufficiently advanced technology")? Who in God's name could be dumb enough to hire such...oh.
@@chasehedges6775 MOVID-19
The Last Jedi nuked it first ala Hiroshima. Rise of Skywalker was Nagasaki.
But women are the best, you bigot!
Selling Lucasfilm would be admitting a huge loss for Disney culture war wise. For that reason alone, I don't see it happening.
At this point, the only thing they can do is, ironically, what Marvel did waaay back when: sell your IPs for as much money as you can, redraw your business model and start with a fresh idea. Doubt the second and third step will happen, cus everyone on Disney's higher eschelons are inept as fuck, but it who knows, weirder things have happened
Disney can never win me back KK left an awful taste in my mouth
@@jackmesrel4933Marvel sucks more than Star Wars
She Hulk
The Woke Soldier
Dumb Wanda show
Simp Loki
Female Hawkeye 🙄🙄🙄
And Annoying Ms Marvel who is screaming all the time-cringe
The M SHE U is dead too
Selling Lucasfilm to Lucas could be more easily spun than sale to a competitor.
Selling it doesn’t make a ton of sense, even with the destruction Kennedy caused with the studio and their need for cash. First, it would be such an admission of failure that I cannot see it happening. Second, other income sources do exist and there is interest in their video games and the money for the theme park. Bring in Vader to the parks and they will get visitors. The other issue is that Disney would need to sell it at a significant discount and it would be a significant financial hit. Kennedy has harmed the franchised massively in her treatment of the fan favorite characters and stories, driving away fans that keep the franchises alive, and it will take a significant push to get fans back. I think Disney will try to fix this by bringing in a new studio head and try to salvage the franchise, which I think can be done but it will cost a film or two closing the sequel character's stories first.
The total failure of the sequel trilogy and the decline of the Disney+ shows has only strengthened my admiration for the older star wars films. It's also turned me into the de-canonized extended universe books. Just finished heir to the empire and now I'm on dark forces rising and I'm really enjoying Luke, han and Leia in their prime.
New conspiracy theory: Lucas intended this as a short sell and suggested KK to make sure he'll get a good price when be buys it back.
Old conspiracy theory. But maybe yeah.
The theory that he put KK in charge to ruin the franchise is still an on going theory that may be true after all. He knew Disney would never fire a woman
There are always two, a master and an apprentice.
I'm surprise that not a lot of people don't know about the whole scenario that Disney went through with Power Rangers. That situation puts the Star Wars being sold back to Lucas in the realm of possibility.
I'm pretty sure these guys all watched the doomcock video that started this rumor
As I said in another comment, Disney never produced Power Rangers, they owned the IP but production of the shows still started in Japan and then ended up localized for America later on.
If only people watched the history of power rangers but it'll be out when it's out and we like that, s'okay
The documentaries about Disney during this period are going to be really interesting to watch. Disney will be used in business textbooks as an example of how to mismanage an incredibly successful company. Lucasfilm could get its own documentary as well. Pixar could also be a good one as they're dead now too.
Studio Ghibli’s interactions with Disney, too. I’d like to know what happened there…
Pixar will be an example of what happens when you give the most ruthless and ambitious females a free pass to promotion-through-accusation. Lasseter was accused of...basically nothing, but Disney felt compelled to decapitate a wonderfully creative operation and are now reaping the "reward".
@@farmschoolchicks1913 I think that was more Iger being a major fanboy for Studio Ghibli. I haven't seen any sign that Disney is putting creative input into Studio Ghibli.
When Jim Henson sold the Muppets to Disney, Disney was still a dream factory & Jim expected Disney to take care of his baby. And for the most part, Disney has taken care of & treated the Muppets well. George Lucas likely expected the same thing of Disney, but they didn't take care of his baby at all
Disney split up Kermit and Piggy
and started playing identity politics with the muppets
Yeah Kermit lecturing everyone about capitalism isn’t what I’d call taking care of the baby personally
There’s one issue I see with this. I think Disney’s biggest fear is that they sell Star Wars to someone who actually understands the lore and is competent at making good Star Wars content. I think they’d rather see it either and die than let someone else be successful with it.
True. A _successful_ Star Wars franchise might cut into their (also floundering) MCU profits
That is how a lot of executives think when in a fix like this.
Something similar happened to Power Rangers. Haim Saban sold it off. It got run into the ground and then he purchased it back later. Of course Saban has sold it off again.
The majority of Disney seasons were actually good and took risks. RPM was brilliant.
Just a shame Disney themselves didn't care about it.
@@-Genxzys- Disney not caring is probably the reason why Disney era Power Rangers was good.
@@Noname15514 You may be on to something there. I mean, KK cares about 2 things Grrrl Powar! and destroying Star Wars. If only she cared less!
I remember naively thinking that the shows WOULD have common threads throughout them. The Bad Batch and the Rebels cast are around in the Andor era, the Kenobi era, and the Mando era. I was sure they would connect ALL the shows by having the Rebels crew in Andor, having Ahsoka in the Kenobi series etc. But hell, they can't even do a story with Kenobi and Luke Skywalker because of identity politics so what chance have we got of an intricately weaved tapestry of characters and events.
In Russia, if hand is rotten, you cut off hand. If arm is rotten, you cut off arm. But if heart is rotten... you cut off leg. This is Russian love song.
So why is Putin still in power?
@@theholps because he clearly isnt a true russian😅
@@theholps why is Ukraine full of Nazi lovers?
Lol..ok…
@@theholps the Western leaders all innocent yeah?
Lucas probably laughing in his way to the Bank checking all the profit he made. His Star Wars saga, still lives on instead of this disposable new versions.
Star Wars today doesn’t make money 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Lucasfilm gets Star Wars, can we get the Extended Universe back as canon?
It never stopped being canon where it mattered lmao
I doubt it, considering George Lucas never cared about it.
Realistically, it'll never happen. We can all hope it happens, but I doubt it will.
Not having a planned arc before doing the original 3 movies has led to this mess. They thought hey it's star wars we can do anything and it will sell,and we can fill it with our personal politics and it'll sell.
Well they were very wrong.
And now perhaps, ironically, "it will sell" 😂
"Not having a planned arc before doing the original 3 movies has led to this mess." you mean sequel, not "original"
@@ItsaKindOfMagic86
I mean Disney's original 3 star wars movies, not what came before they purchased Lucasfilm.
That kind of obvious I thought 🤔
They had their chance of a comeback - with the last trilogy. No one is getting butts into the seats more than Han, Leia, Luke and Chewie and they ruined it.
So unless they go heavy into this de-aging CGI and tell some good stories like "Heir to the Empire" they aren't going to be pulling in the numbers they need.
And even then I don't think people want to see CGI Han,Luke etc as much as the real thing and that chance is gone now.
Worst problem they have is even if they make an amazing show a lot of fans have checked out so it's not guaranteed interest at launch & the official reviewers will be annoyed & smear it if they back track on identity politics
That's assuming they can make an amazing show as we see anything popular gains the attention of KK who will destroy it as it's not fair her stuff fails while others don't
The original cast was indeed their best bet. The best stories at this point is to jump well into the past or future
George might have first refusal written in the contract he made with Disney
Found the optimist.
Unlikely to happen. George is almost in his 80's. He physically can't return to manage this property, unless he plans to pass it on to someone else. There are also legal complications that will have to be resolved when it comes to the IP and who owns what.
Exactly. It's another ridiculous rumours as the drinker said. It comes from overlord dvd which has started ridiculous rumours in the past too, and nothing happened.
He could probably license it out still
And just about anyone would do better.
I don't think it's going to happen, but I've heard less possible things
This has happned before Disney bought the rights of power rangers from saban fo 1.5 billion in 2003 but like star wars they run it into the ground and they sold it back to saban in 2010 for 45 million
1.5 bill for power rangers - no f’n way
@@sallydiver9143 toy sales are where they're supposed to make money. I hear you can still get rose figures.
George Lucas should buy it 😂😂😂
He is, allegedly, in talks to do just that.
...for $1
@@tylerdurden5303😂
@@weismeister121 yea cause i bet he is pissed at Disney for what they have done to his baby
That would be a dream come, true!
I'd love to hear old Mr Lucas at the negotiation table, pointing out how devalued the brand has become
Doubt they will sell it for less than they bought it. That would be admitting they are incompetent and they don't know what they're doing. And they won't admit it, even if that would mean going bankrupt. And anyway, Brandon will rescue them with contributor money when they declare bankruptcy, so they probably don't care at all.
It's happened before
@@screenmonkey This smells like one of the usual Lucas film stories. I doubt we would know before the fact.
Maybe they offer a special discount:
You can buy it back a) at full prize or b) with a large discount BUT... you have to take Kennedy with you in a leading position.
@@zidahya Kennedy reduces the value of LucasFilm by at least half. Even giving away LucasFilm for a dollar on the stipulation of keeping Kennedy in her current position of power is a deal that should give anyone pause.
They bought the Power Rangers for 5.2b Dollars and sold it back for 430m. Star Wars is a "bit" bigger but it happened before with Disney. Lets hope they desperate enough to do it the right one buys it.
"Disney is short on cash [...] and one option might be to offload their least profitable studio."
Even as recently as during the run-up to the sequel trilogy, who would ever have guessed that's referring to Lucasfilm?
When I first heard of the sale, I thought, oh, new star wars. Then that disney was buying. Figured they would shoehorn in some princess to win everything. Kind of Disney's main pattern for 50 years at the time. With a few exceptions, Disney is and has always been a girls entertainment factory
Imagine losing a 4 _billion_ dollar value instead of firing 1 inept employee
it makes alot of sense when you put it that way
I mean, the Kenobi story was just the origin story of Princess Leia's holster. So I'm not overly surprised it wasn't very popular.
The real shame is that it's now too late to even release films based on the original Expanded Universe. :(
Why?
Whether it is Kate or not do you really want the current era Hollywood touching the EU? In retrospect it is a good thing it was killed before they modernized it for modern audiences.
late not Kate, stupid phone keyboards.
@Ray Shrum if it's anything post OT many of the original actors are now dead or too old.
@@jacquelineking5783 Yeah, maybe it was for the best but it’s still sad.
Not like Disney is able to pull it off, But I think a great trilogy would be a dark cinematic experience, bad guy wins prequel; on the rise of the Sith and how they gained power set thousands of years before the original movies.
disney insiders would riot if they were told to make movies and shows about the empire, they are human supremacist remember?
Honestly, they just need to hand KOTOR over to a decent production team, and bam it's a win. Knights of the Old Republic is just a classic story including the plot twist that any decent team could make a good film and good money off. However, this is Disney so of course they won't. I also just don't want Disney anywhere near KOTOR 2 that masterpiece should never be anywhere Disney.
Also, the Darth Bane trilogy would be fantastic adaptation, they even can have their woman wins message since Darth Zannah fulfills the Rule of Two and defeats Bane succeeding her Master and leading the Sith.
@@Jack29245 Agree on the Bane Trilogy but I wouldn't want Disney anywhere near that, they'd only find some way to fuck it up!!
I have said that a trilogy that focuses on a Sith war that takes us to the rule of two would be a fantastic watch.
"Lucas buying it back at a heavy discount and basically making billions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing"
He watched as they butchered his creation.
That's not nothing.
He got 4 billion. He knew what he was doing and Disney history. 4 billion is more than nothibg.
@@HooDooBrown Star Wars was his baby and he said he felt like he'd sold it to "white slavers". But 4 billion is indeed more than nothing.
He can instantly decannonize everything Disney did 😂
Lucas is under NDA contracts
Don't forget that when they bought Lucasfilm they didn't pay him $4 billion up front, almost half was in stock and that if they sold it back to him they'd likely want a few million plus a big portion of their stock back as part of the sale.
It's likely that Disney want to recuperate their losses by gaining back the shares they sold to George Lucas because it's no small amount even if those shares have dropped a fair bit, it'll increase their share price and encourage people to buy. They need the money for Comcast.
while disney stock is down considerably from its all time high, its still about double of what it was when George sold Star wars in 2012, so lets say half of the four billion was in stocks, than that makes two billion, now George's two billion in stocks is now double, so its worth 4 billion, plus the other 2 billion in cash, thus six billion total. So maybe George has got six billion now from the deal, hes doing pretty good IMO.
@@nn-dj2nu Its hard to imagine he regrets selling it to them with all that considered. I just don't imagine he'd want it back at his age, it'd be far too much work to get it back on track. What do you think?
@@CaspianNomad yeah i agree, George is prob way to old to give a damn anymore. He has a legacy already, so he can have a happy rest of his life and sleep well at night knowing that he built something epic and he wasn't the one responsible for its destruction (Disney).
Lucasfilm: "We're losing money."
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "All our budgets are in the red!"
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "We owe Comcast $4Bn that we don't have!"
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "Courts have ordered our liquidation!"
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "The SEC is pressing charges for failing to meet our fiduciary responsibilities to stock holders!!!"
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "The company literally does not exist anymore and we're sitting in jail!!!!!"
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "I'm getting cornholed by a dude named Bubba."
Disney: "Stay on target."
Lucasfilm: "I'm starting to think I'm talking to the computers from THX-1138"
Disney: "Stay on tar...damn, they caught us."
I feel that Az is really out of place in a livestresm like this. He is the sort of person who clowns around for attention (no offense) at the expense of others, like snoring, laughing, screaming, so all eyes are on him. In Drinker's streams it seems to be all about discussion and people giving each other a chance to give their thoughts rather than trying to grab the attention.
Nah, everyone needs someone to clown around in long conversations like these, and his takes are usually just as good as the rest of the guests, just more jockey humour-based in tone
I feel the same way about Tom Connors in Midnights Edge. I hate his dumb impressions and random tangents.
I feel the opposite I ❤ Az!
2:10 , 10:43 awkward
You dont know Az at all
Whoever it might be, it can't possibly be worse than Disney.
be careful what you wish for parker
I'm over here like "PLEEEASE SELL IT TO CHINA. PLEEEASE. It would be such an improvement!" 🤣
@Bill Clinton Enjoyer Perhaps what i said is an challenge. After all, the entertainment i would get from Drinker and co ripping into it would be greater than what entertainment i get from SW nowadays.
TheLittlePlatoon is so freaking brilliant. Dude delivers a master class every time he opens his mouth.
I personally think Disney sunk themselves with their happy-go-lucky purchasing practices. They are way bigger than their nearest competitor, heck they even ate some of their competitors. Anyone who would be invested in purchasing Lucas-film is already invested in Disney.
Wow! They lost 4 billion subscribers? I knew that the Sequel trilogy split the fanbase right in half, I didn't know it split HUMANITY right in half...
I think you guys underestimate Star Wars fans, if some company bought Lucasfilm, cleared house (firing Kennedy to start), cancelled all current projects, de-canonised all Disney SW content and simply put out one good Star Wars film, the ship would turn around instantly and they would rake in the money like nothing else.
I’ll give Disney a case of Bud Light for Lucasfilm
I was gonna give them TWO cases, but you outbid me.
Bro it isn’t that worthless.
Tell you what I’ll murder your family BUT I’ll take that case of Bud Light off you. Deal?
@@Trollificusv2 I'd give them an empty can.
@@Trollificusv2 inflation hahaha
I almost got arrested for public intoxication at the screening of Rise of Skywalker, that’s all that Lucasfilms has given me in the last 10 years
An appropriate critical response.
I've tried to watch rise of Skywalker three times, and I get bored around the six minute mark. That's Disney's legacy. I'm glad they built this perfect storm around themselves in reality, too, by supporting and encouraging literal child groomers
@@unicorntrooper226 I don’t really remember anything after when lando shows up because that’s when I emptied my flask
If Disney sold LucasFilm, chances are that Universal pictures might be the perfect candidate, especially since Universal has many studios under their belt from DreamWorks, illumination, Paramount etc. Combined with iconic IP's from Kung Fu Panda from DreamWorks, Mission impossible and Top Gun from Paramount. Also, the theme park potential is HUGE considering that Universal pictures has their own theme park and made a Mario land. The only issue is the price for the acquisition, and Paramount losing money due to Paramount +, but we all can dream.
If that happened then maybe we'd get that Star Wars-Battlestar Galactica (THE Original!!) crossover that could have come about if there hadn't been that stupid lawsuit by Fox/Lucasfilm against Glen A Larson! 😇🤩 But, yes, we can dream! 😊👍
@@alexhenderson1312 or they could hire Christopher Nolan to direct a Knights Of The Old Republic film.
@@mozax8118 Fantastic! 🤩😎💪👏
I dunno. Do we really want Disney to be destroyed, only to end up calling Universal "NuDisney" in a couple of years?? Bigger doesn't really seem to be better in all creative endeavors.
I don't know where you're getting your info, but Paramount is part of the ViacomCBS (now changed to Paramount Global) behemoth and has nothing to do with Universal. In fact, Universal is the last major player without a streaming service. The only reason Universal has Harry Potter and Marvel at their parks is because they bought the theme park rights separately (back at the end of the 90s in Marvel's case).
round and round it goes. seems like we have been talking about this for years.
Power rangers sold to Disney for $3.5B. Sold back to original owner 8 years later for $60M. #precedent
I think selling LFL actually IS the solution to KK. Offer it to George on the first right of refusal, he can figure whether he has gas in the tank for it, or some kind of JV with ILM and Sony (for real - they have the smartest IP mgt and distribution).
Iger has to know that the LFL currency is totally debased, and he's better off letting it go. Especially if he has $9b to find for Comcast. It's a question of how many battles on how many fronts can he wage.
Dunno I suspect KK has kompromat on Lucas as well as on Iger. More than just being George's mistress. Maybe capital M Mistress? With photos. 😁
@@gilgamecha First, never mention KK and photos again.
Second, new management of LF would be part of the sale, KK gone.
Then George announces his NEW LucasFilm president:
Anita Sarkeesian!!
I can legitimately see Disney selling off Lucasfilm off after how badly they managed it and they don’t have enough money to satisfy Comcast but on the other hand there egos are so high up their own ass that they’ll probably keep just it out of spite regardless of their financial situation now, also if George buying it back is possibly true then I just hope he keeps some of the marginally decent stuff like Andor and the Fallen Order series while completely wiping away the rest of Disney Canon and restoring the EU; I can even see him keeping Mando around or at least the first two seasons since he’s had a hand in that show too.
You know, youre the only CZcamsr out of the so called Fandom Menace who has actually addressed this rumour in an adult way and had a discussion about it. As much as I love your contemporaries, it pisses me off so much the way they all fixate on their petty dislike of Doomcock and every rumour that come from his channel. They imply that anyone who watches is a mindless sheep who will believe anything that is discussed and their pettiness towards his channel and its audience comes across as very childish. Funny how people ridicule his act that he puts on in his videos but they have no problem with your act when you play the drunken Scotsman in your videos. I watch all sorts of channels on here and they all offer something different, so for Ryan Kinnel, Yellow Flash, Az and others to bitch about Doomcock simply because he's not in their clique anymore shows THEM in a bad light. You all have pros and cons in your video styles so stop the petty jibes. And well done to Drinker for treating the whole runour as a topic for discussion (and for not excommunicating Doomcock like all the others did).
I stopped watching Kinnel, Yellow Flash, and the like a while ago because I find them just way too over the top and they like to go whole hog into the extreme instead of doing a methodical examination of something like Drinker and Doomcock do. Can you explain why Doomcock isn't in their "clique" anymore and why they're complaining about him? What happened?
I was absolutely livid watching this because they’re just echoing doomcock with no mention and yet they also clown on him with Gary even saying at one point about the Kathleen Kennedy exit rumor - “was your reliable source in a mask?” It’s honestly pathetic when the man hasn’t done anything to personally offend any of them
@@pmac_AKA_calicojack They also act like the things he reports as clear RUMORS are never correct when they most often ARE. That's just gaslighting. And Ryan Kinnel can go suck a big one. Acting like a gigantic @ssh*le is hardly a creative approach, however easy it may be for him to pull off.
It would be epic and hilarious if Lucas actually did buy back Lucasfilm and decanonized the Disney films, WITH the exception of Rogue One.
That was a pretty cool movie...
I wonder if Microsoft would make a move purely to get their hands on the game rights, and possibly install Lucas to run the big screen side of it.
That's a VERY good point.
Apple, Amazon, Universal, Netflix, Elon musk.. many potential buyers
@@Antares-vj7su Nah, screw Amazon, they ruined rings of power
I loved Andor - despite everything, I think there is hope for Star Wars. But it may well need new management
The only reason Andor worked is because Disney higher ups kept their mitts off it and didn’t try to push politics in it.
@@fireironthesecond2909 That's not the only reason it worked. The show is awesome on it's own.
I want to watch andor, but I really don't want Disney to get views. Maybe pie rate bay...
If you look at some background you'll notice Disney has sold IP's in the past that they messed up. Also there is the point that even if they keep SW and KK goes, especially after the trades being so direct about her failure, who do they have left to run it? It's in such a state that no-one wants to anymore. The only way the property becomes viable again is under completely new leadership outside of Disney and with a clean house. and bring back Lucasarts.
Real quick corner of the eye glance and I thought Az was on the crystal maze Aztec set for second and got really really interested.
I can't wait to see the Enron themed Disney documentary "The Wokest Non Binaries In The Room."
I mean… it can’t get much worse can it
I see a lot of comments saying "They won't cause that means they're admitting defeat!" or "They won't cause they don't want other companies to make it profitable."
The one thing that everyone seems to be missing is that they can't afford to sit on Lucasfilm and hold onto it out of spite. If they do, it won't matter, cause Disney will cease to exist anyway. They are obligated by law to at least attempt to save the company or face indictments for failure to do their duty to the investors of said company - which Iger in an orange jumpsuit has its appeal.
This isn't about "They made a string of bad movies and they lost some money." This is about "They made a string of bad movies and now they have no money to operate even half the company."
Sitting on a franchise is the luxury of people not teetering heavily on bankruptcy. At this point, with their finances as it is, they don't have a choice but to cut their loses and bail out as much dead weight as possible.
And Lucasfilm is the most dead of dead weight imaginable at the moment.
When they're at Federal Court, I guarantee you when they're asked "Why didn't you sell assets like "Lucasfilm" the Disney executives aren't gonna answer "Cause we didn't want the bigots to win!" ... as they're handcuffed to the desk and wearing orange prison smocks.
KK surely will get an extension this summer. She did her job as requested.
Curious to know what Drinker & Co (and any comic book readers here) think of Marvel eliminating The Punisher? I haven't read comics for some time so I'm curious if comic book sales have taken a hit like the h-wood moves have been.
Did they eliminate him totally? I know they changed his skull design on his costume.
@@7thwheel His wife cucked him and killed him and for all I know, took up the Punisher "mantle". And yes, comics, US-based superhero comics, DC and Marvel, are almost dead.
Man, Doomcock is really paying the check, isn't he?
Th idea of george making everything disney 'Legends' is *chefs kiss
People put the blame on KK, but the majority of talented Lucasfilm employees left the company when George sold it. That is what happens when a new owner comes in. They fire past high-level employees and put their own hirings in the positions. The movie is 3 weeks away. I will judge it once it comes out.
Who could buy it? /*cough/* George Lucas /*cough/*
Elon Musk. 😅
@@captainunderpants200 Imagine Star Wars with SpaceX ships and Tesla speeders...
Lucas sold Star Wars when he was 69, and wanted to focus on family life. At 79, hard to see him being able to fix such a big mess and he likely doesn't have much years left in this world. Disney selling Lucasfilm back is admitting defeat and will need much more compensation than when they bought it. Lucas is only $5 billion in net worth at this time. Disney at this point would rather burn things to the ground.
The biden's could buy it, or their buddy zelensky could for money laundering.
Maybe Bezos should get it so he can have the reylo-palpy saga and Lord-of-Ring; Ring of Power saga both to his name.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Let's ask Jeff! Space-peeeenises everywhere.....
I just wish George Lucas had never sold it in the first place.
it was the best thing he could do for those prequels.
people went from shitting on them to praising them cause “theyre not as bad as what came after”
@@cokemaster3710 I'd rather that than what we've been getting.
"... they haven't taken the time away to actually plan a coherent trilogy arc."
Did TLP invent a time machine? Cuz that was the actual issue with the Sequel Trilogy in the first place! Disney Lucasfilm just hashed together 3 different movies without any vision, heart or idea to them... It could had been such an easy win IF they haven't deleted the Expanded Universe... and then bring it back after they realised how much damage they had done BUT never admitting their mistake openly... Utter shame!
Really. They could easily have moved on from the OT characters to new ones, hell, even fempowered ones. And then eased into the great story arcs from the EU...and ka-ching! the money machine starts purring for years and years. It should have been EASY!
But no. It's like they asked Dr. Strange to find the ONE way (out of millions of easy, surefire profitable options) they could lose money and devalue the whole franchise. If presented properly and accurately, people in the future will not believe the story of Disney, Lucas Film and KK.
The Simpsons already did this when Mr Burns bought back the Nuclear Power Plant, though the Nuclear fallout of Disney Star Wars is un-salvageable!?
What a coincidence i was thinking same thing could George Lucas buy it back? With a loan
Is risky but i think it's little similar situation like akira toriyama and dragon Ball evolution just like he came back for his series
George should do same if he wants to bringback same star wars magic well this is his choice
Loans don’t work these days, they come attached with ESG/DEI requirements. So it’d be even worse than the sequel trilogy.
If George needs to crowdfund to get Lucasfilm back, l'd give a few bucks. 🙂
"while KK is in charge" - then again, selling it off WITH her could be an easy way to get rid of her without accusations of sexism, and leave the purchaser to sack her...?
At some point, some CEO is going to have to deal with the harsh choice between billions of dollars in profit and having the Twitter blue-hairs reeeeeing at them. And be "brave" enough to choose the money. So far, such leaders are in short supply. Apparently.
This sounds about right. They will view star wars as a dead brand, not because they killed it but because it is no longer relevant. People just don't care about star wars in a post modern world. They are to proud and vain to say they killed it.
still unbelievable how a studio can ruin everything they got and the respnsibles yet keep their seats. if the dial of destiny fails, I can only guess the destiny of lucasfilm will be sealed.
Iger said as much, months ago.
Id love for that to happen. But it's so ingrained in Disney's infrastructure that it seems unlikely. Unless they were allowed to keep the Star wars stuff in the theme parks for some reason.
where can I watch the remainder of the podcast? I just saw you guys streaming this yesterday afternoon
Like many huge corporations they rely on their stock value to leverage finance. How ever at some point the outstanding debt ratio to stock value becomes negative and that’s when the break up will occur. As far as if SW will be sold and to who I can only say this; I have heard that Lucas and Cameron are in talks to remake 4,5&6 using the original footage using new tech and additional scenes . If done correctly staying true to the story I not only think it could be great it and the 1ultimate reboot paving the way for new and better sequels . Perhaps the best and only way to revive Star Wars.
No way Lucas would buy it back, the property is ruined for a decade. Nobody wants any more Star Wars or Indiana Jones, they're Bud Light media.
Not correct.
I am desperately waiting for a new Star War movie .
The last one came out in 2005!
It's still Lucas's legacy, he would definetly buy it back.
If that happens that would truly be 'a new hope'.
Not entirely correct. I don't want any disney Star Wars, but i do want actual Star Wars.
The property is dead under Disney, though Andor proves there is still a heart beat, faint as it maybe. You could resurrect it with Luke waking up to a terrible nightmare that was Disney Star wars. Decannon everything Disney made, except Rogue one and Andor, and make an adaptation of Heir to the Empire happen. Those Timothy Zahn books were the sequels we've wanted for 30 years.
@@randell9667 Andor and Rogue One proved that Star Wars does better when aimed towards a more mature audience. Most Star Wars fans are in their early thirties to late forties, not children.
Focus on the Wars, leave the message out, and make movies out of the old EU stuff and boom, money.
Would love to see someone buy it and then release their own Episode 7, 8, 9 as if the Disney era had never happened. Even bring back Mark
Whoever buys it should bin the entire current Star Wars timeline and go straight to the old republic.
I remember a time when Star Wars was memorable, and they could go all sorts of directions with the material. The whole Ewok saga was cute, and it was very respectful of Cannon, and made it's own original content. Even some of the shameless holiday episodes were in good fun. But since Disney started trashing the franchise, it is really not worth watching. I can't even imagine viewing anything in reruns.
To be fair, this news was brought to us by the combined might of Doomcock and Pasha... and neither have the greatest track record when it comes to their 'sources'.
I'll believe it when I see it. Would be wonderful if it were true.
Somehow George Lucas returned?
He flies now?
"He flies now?"
"He flies now."
Dang. I swear your post wasn't visible when I posted mine. All credit, leaving mine up in support.
@@Trollificusv2 I had this earlier on another comment, I made a joking reference in reply to a comment, no response, just below mine? Same reference getting interaction.
I believe I am on CZcamss naughty list.
If Disney did sell to Lucas, would his perfectionism and willingness to revisit and re-edit films result in his attempt to "fix" everything Disney produced? Would Kenobi become a movie? Would the sequel trilogy be re-cut into one or two movies or spinkled into a new trilogy as a B-plot? Would the actors be interested in participating in rehabilitating those movies?
Having Lucas do special editions to sequels and sequel fans and Disney shills exploding would be funny.
The only people who would buy Lucasfilm are Apple, Netflix, or George Lucas buys it back himself.
OMG guys, that would be _crazy_ if Lucas was able to get it back and right all the wrongs with something better. Maybe not to perfection, but better than the horsesht these days. Ohhhhhh, don't bring my hopes up like this lol
Never ever going to happen.
Ok hear me out. Daily wire hired the actress they fired from star wars. Daily wire buys Lucas rights. Puts her back in star wars. And makes a non woke star wars. 😂
Ben Shapiro as fast talking ewok, here we go baby👌
On a serious note: do they even have that amount of money?))
Don't get me wrong, DW had certainly grown in last few years but not THAT much right?)
Eugh! No thanks.
@Indoril Nerevar sponsors as well. Won't forget one of the worst ad implementation from yt company I've ever seen any time soon lol
Quality video, thanks.
Just make it public domain at this point. The IP is destroyed, maybe some talented fans out there will be able to create some great stories that follow the canon and make the franchise interesting again.
Waaay too good an idea for this wicked ol' world, AA.
Disney needs to sell everything and go into political activism.
Nah, they need to go back to making better, well-made movies and content and correct their mistakes.
@@chasehedges6775 I totally agree. I just don't see that as being possible now. The company is totally taken over by woke hipsters more worried about diversity, inclusion, feminism, race swapping, and most importantly shoving lgbtq propaganda in our face in everything they make. I think people would be willing to give Star Wars a new fresh start with a new owner. Disney Stars wars is dead.
@@JEGFL85 Old Disney before 2017 was better
Lucas faked the moon landings