$170 CHIBSON Les Paul! - Demo / Review
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- My review of the cheapest "Les Paul" that money can buy! How bad is it? Find out!
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Buy them, play them, collect 100s of them, totally fine. Just don't resell them to others quoting it to be original instrument, that's where it gets unethical.
but i really want a strat so...
Agreed 100%
Its illegal to resell counterfit products
Where can you purchase one. I have always wanted one to just hang in my room.
@@draper102994 ...Ali express seems a good place to start
As far as I'm concerned, Gibson bought this on themselves. Even with the quality materials and workmanship used to build a genuine Les Paul, it would cost at most a few hundred dollars to produce a unit. Yet somehow, they can justify selling them for thousands of dollars-a markup that a drug dealer could only dream of.
If they were available for $600 (representing a reasonable mark up on the cost of production plus a commission for the store), I'd buy one. Until then, I refuse to support a company engaged in ripping off the very customers that are the reason for its existence.
Couldn't have said it better myself! As of recently I'm of the opinion that a lot of the larger brands have brought this hammer down upon themselves. Not even counting Chibsons/Alibaba specials, brands like Agile, Harley Benton, and Sire are going to continue to rise in popularity until these "big league" guitar manufacturers come down from their high horse.
I was shopping around the other day and even the new MIM Fender Strats are approaching $1,000!!! This is beyond absurd and while these brands do make good guitars, they certainly aren't worth anywhere near what they're asking for them now.
I abandoned plans of buying a Gibson branded Firebird, or anything else made by them when they went after Dean. If their products were of the standards they claim, cheaper "copies" of the same body shape wouldn't hurt their business at all and there would be no reason to destroy them with litigation. I think Fender is a pretty good example of this considering how many strat and tele knock offs exist using the original body and headstock shapes and they seem to be doing fine.
I've only just found this video, and I absolutely like the approach to what's a counterfeit instrument.
I bought a Chibson years ago, and was immediately quite impressed with the value for money! And the quality has only gotten better over the years...
Yes - I do agree with copyright laws, and would recommend to order one without the dreaded logo & other trademark signs. Although I'd still keep the headstock shape, but that's just me - I hate the Epiphone clipped style head 😜
The Chinese do really know how to build good, if not great, instruments!
And if, after a while, you want to mod it, then it's not a $1800-2000 investment you're potentially ruining, but simply adding personal value to your own instrument. And that's always good 😀
ethics......I bought a Gibson Les Paul junior and the wrap tailpiece was placed so far forward that it could not be intonated. I had to re-drill the bridge stud holes and move the bridge over 1/4" backward to get enough travel on the bridge to intonate it. And Gibson charges $900 for that slab of wood with ONE pickup. Gibson can take a leap as far as I'm concerned
They just need to take the Gibson name off and proudly display Chibson.
i agree, if their guitar is decent, i dunno why they dont just sell it as their own guitar i guess people want the name, which i find silly, it's a name, if you put any other name on the guitar it sounds the same, lol they build it the same as every other guitar it's the quality of the parts that matter most, particularly the quality of the amp and electronics in the guitar and the strings
David Shapley Agree with you
David Shapley It’ll be okay if they would be more transparent and change their name to something original, change some things on the design. Write there: made in China, but then the company can get close-down for saying who they are. There are many rumors saying Cort and Epiphone makes Chibsons, also with Samick, but yeah. There are many advantages and disadvantages, no doubt there’s more disadvantages than advantages with this company problem.
I would TOTALLY buy a guitar marked CHIBSON!! \,,/
What you are thinking is the way how Americans thinking, Chinese just wanna make money even don't care about to violation the law or some body gets hurt
Chibson Les Paul, endorsed by the guitarist of Guns n "Rices"
@Know One lol I got an even better one -- "Gongs" n Roses
Weapon and flower
Ha!
Chinese democracy 😂😂😂
Did you know Slash recorded with a replica?
wish i had the money to buy even a fake gibson les paul...😔😔😔
save 10 dollars a day and in a year you'll have one
@@littlewing62 i just earn 6 dollars a day.... hehehe so yeah.... its just a dreAm
apir!
You are in luck decent instruments that are cheap are in abundance...if you want a decent guitar you can get one ..save a bit at a time ..150 can get you a great used instrument..good luck
Save one dollar a day for ten years 😂
Hi Max, I’m a new subscriber to the channel- really love the format and the playing. Keep the vids coming!
Thanks H B! Will do.
I bought a Chibson 10 years ago when nobody really heard of them. It was my first ever guitar and I still have it. It's not a bad guitar but despite changing all the hardware and replacing the pickups with Bare Knuckle it has always been quiet in comparison to most other guitars I have. That's easily corrected with amp settings of course. Obviously after 10 years of tweaks I've got it set up great, just how I like it. The action is fantastic and it's lovely to play. I wouldn't really recommend one to anyone unless they are prepared to put some time and money into improving the faults as out the box these guitars pretty much all have problems.
Your review is surely outstanding! Wow! Thank you for this!
best camera shots ov playing guitar i've ever seen keep up the great work .... your playing is awesome
Awesome vid man great playing. Subscribed. Great honest review
Glad I accidentally found your channel, have been trying to see whats out there in different guitars ,your awesome!!!
You and your videos are way better than many jokers out there who makes fun of music. You sir have a class. You should have 1m subscribers.
Thank you!
I absolutely second that. Very classy, articulate and informative.
That's, unfortunately, why he doesn't have as many subs. One more from me though! :)
I have feeling you are a Jason Becker fan
i like steve terreberry lol
love your honesty, and it reflects in your ability to play...it aint the ax, its the guy who wields it!....and I often check in on your site to get reviews. thanx, and I jam to many of your tracks!
It's worth it just for the one piece no-scarf joint neck. Great price for a base guitar to upgrade and rewire, &c into something special. And the one-piece neck is what makes it a first pick for me. Thank you for making these videos. People ask me all the time what first guitar should they get for their kid and I can now answer them! I myself could have REALLY used something like what you're offering when I first started! Thanks again.
I am convinced that if a rock star made an album secretly using chibson guitars nobody would know.
Mr Bojangle his ego would keep him from doing so
I know one of the guys in my chemical romance had a chibson he replaced the pick ups with a pair of Seymour Duncans.
Have you ever listened to appetite for destruction?
Slash made that whole record with s counterfeit Gibson. Deadass.
oreofudgeman it was a hand made 59 replica from a luthier before Gibson was making these reissues. So it’s like the equivalent of a Collins today not really the same as a chibson
Don't be ashamed about what you use don't listen to someone with expensive gear. Just because your gear is expensive dosn't mean you are a god at guitar
You don't need a high priced guitar to sound good. Just like you don't need running shoes too run, but they fucking help.
Efren Castaneda Excellent comment, it's like you don't need name brand drugs but generic to get well. I have two Austin guitars that are Les Paul copies and the ESP John Sykes Edwards that plays and sounds just as good. And on top of that I hear people complain about an actual made in America Les Paul saying that one sounds better than the other when all of them are supposed to sound great.
Efren Castaneda you need skill to Sound good, not a $10.000 guitar. Thats what Most musicians dont understand about music. They think a high priced guitar Sounds better than a cheap one but thats not always True. It's about the way you play it and the amp you're using
Riiight. Well that is partially true but sometimes higher quality items are just bullshit. Gimmicky and overpriced.
I got a Nike Lunarepic Low Flyknit 2 (which is considered medium/high end) and it destroyed my right knee's meniscus. Why ? those soles absorb the shock in an uneven fashion due to their beautiful design and it sends shocks at an odd angle to my knee. A more solid sole from a cheaper running shoe would've saved my knee.
I'm not doubting the quality of Nike's product but the standardized manufacturing and design process means the product will fit the majority but not everyone.
Sometimes a cheaper guitar might suit you better.
I play cheap shit guitars through a cheap pedal on an old bass amp and they sound great it's all about set up skill and having a good ear I have mine set up to play metallica and they're spot on
You can buy copies of nikes and have some shoes at least, just like chibsons, cheap alternative just to have some fun...
Love your videos brother, very legit stuff, ive learned so much about gear and guitar stuff from your vids....definitely get my subscription . God bless for the awesome vids
Thanks!
Great video man, good channel.
I want to thank you for posting this. I've been considering several of these because I want to play around with making a "relic" guitar and would much rather screw up something cheap. Just something for fun. That being said, I think there are no ethics in foreign companies blatantly ripping off another company. Although, my first guitar was a Harmony Les Paul, bought in the US in the 80's, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't licensed either. Regardless, your video is a really good look at what these types of guitars are. Thank you sir!
I've had many gibsons and epiphones. My LP Custom was the prettiest but it just didn't play the greatest. The best one I ever had was an epiphone LP. It was amazing. So I can imagine that these Chibsons are very similar.
Guitar max you got some cool videos man!! Keep it up
The one I bought a few years back is identical to the one you're holding. I dressed the frets, put in a 50's wiring kit, new pots and Gibson 57's and it rocks. Gave it to a buddy of mine who needed a guitar. He loves it. All in all I had about $600 into that guitar and I really enjoyed it. Would I like an R9, oh yeah but I don't have $4-5k just lying around. Great video BTW!
I've got no problem getting one. I've got one on order. Just don't try to resell it.
just because you ordered it doesn't mean its no problem,write back when you have it in your hand.
Dan Pritchett Where did you order from? I'm gonna get me a gold top and don't give a configured fuck what anyone says.
Don't sell it? thats the best part
I have a couple and love them. It's legal to buy from China, but NOT legal to resell in the US. You can also order them with your own brand name from many sellers.
how did it go? is it good enough for the price or would you recommend buying something else instead (this, based on how it feels/plays, i know the elctronics are trash). thanks.
Hey Max how about some Ric"s "Chicenbackers" ? Love the channel Ive just discovered it it here in Australia.
This channel is very informative and actually pretty decent when it comes down to cheap gear...he shows that its all in the player...the best part...he isnt a total wanker about using cheap gear
Thank you for the review, great video and well presented. Question; Did you check the intonation, how was it? And does it stay in tune ?
Great review. I have 3 coming, all from different places in China. I plan to try an unboxing. One aspect I think I can contribute, I was LAPD for a long time, and I know how crimes are pursued, and why no one will ever be prosecuted just buying one. If you try to sell it as a Gibson to someone just to make a buck, there may be some enforcement, but it’s also hard to prosecute. Prosecutors don’t pursue crimes without a good possibility of getting a conviction. With imports, I crime against property has to have certain conditions met, or corpus. Counterfeiting, smuggling, trademark violations, all require specific intent as opposed to general intent. With general intent, merely engaging in an act meets the corpus.
Gibson should buy this company to increase quality level :D
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I bet this company doesn't crush their guitars with construction equipment!!
Lmfao "we can not beat their quality" hahaahaha
Yeah...too bad Gibson's quality is shit currently
@@mistymountainasmr4047 been shit for years but they are still charging rip off high prices.
I hate to laugh but......🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enjoy your reviews, as player and collector of 50 years, I've got many vintage USA guitars, customs and several lower end guitars. I'm gonna buy one for the hell of it. I'd say they're at least equal to an Epiphone, which have gigged with many times
Great sounding guitar.....I think I'll buy one for my next gig coming up.
You can order them with ANY logo you want, and ANY headstock shape you want. Same applies to the serial number. And, US customs is hip to all of this, food for thought.
w13rdguy where? Have a link?
You are correct. I have two Chinese guitars and both times they asked what logo I wanted. Both times I said I did not care but I live in China and wanted guitars to play that I would not need to ship later. The workmanship is good. the woods are nice and they are an incredible bargain. A little setup is needed but it always is.
CJinAsia
Did you need to level the frets? Any fret buzz? or do they play ok out from the box with simple adjustments?
They might be "Hip to all this" but they still let them in. So, what's your point? Besides, I'm an authorized chinese made Gibson dealer. I get a ship-load of them in, at a much lower cost that a single "Chibson" costs, and then I still jack the price up and make a killing. Ethics are whatever a business man can live with! MONEY.... We all HAVE to have it to survive, and the more that yo have, the better quality of life. No? So... whatevs, Yo! People do what they've got to do. Only those who are willing to make a change, and realize that American quality will never be what it once was (Because once again... money, quality of life, what you can get away with, etc.) and the fact that you cannot reverse the effects of immigrant-damage, the OLD ways of American quality are dead. Unless... you go into business to lose your ass. I sleep just fine, my customers get more than what they pay for, and I can look myself in the mirror just fine when I'm on vacation with my family in Europe, Prague, or the Caribbean. Ethics.... decide what they are, and then adjust them according to your desired life-style! This is the NEW USA! Politicians never go to prison, so why should I give a shit about breaking the law?
Can someone please tell me where to buy this??
Good review, very to the point, and not just tested with 1 guitar tone. Gibson over prices a lot of their guitars so I don't feel bad for them
Hey Max hows it going? I appreciate the videos that you do as well as the info you have on the Chinese guitars. I am a beginner and I recently purchased a chibson Les Paul standard. Im wonder about how much should I spend on new pickups, and also how would I know whether not I can have the action lowered on my Chibson Les Paual.
Dig your videos dude, thanks for the tips
The thing is, you can contact a seller and get a completely custom made guitar. I got a left-handed flametop blueberry burst SG, with my own design on the headstock, one of a kind... it doesn't need to be a "counterfeit Gibson".
An Electric Heart Which seller, on which website?
An Electric Heart I'm a lefty and I'd love something like you mention. I realize now that my question is very suspicious.
Go to Aliexpess (it's like Chinese Ebay), find guitars on there, and start firing off questions to sellers, start with something easy, like "Is this available in different colours?", or go straight to "Can you make custom guitars?", try find one who's good at English, most of them will do it. I can use photoshop, so I send pictures of exactly what I want. Nothing about your question can be perceived as suspicious, it's not illegal, it's not a blackmarket site or anything like that.
They are good, aren't they? I really like so many options for us lefties:)
An Electric Heart Why not just be a bro and tell us the name of the seller that made your awesome custom guitar? Is that really too much to ask?
Great video!
Dirty Fingers hey man its me check me 3 new vids with a gibson HP.
Great Video! My first guitar was a Gibson Les Paul copy way back in the 70's but had no trademarks on it and did not even qualify against one of these! Even though it had no logo I was always shamed by other guitarists. The value of it has doubled over the years and I wonder if these will be sought out and collected way in the future?
I'm starting to learn to play guitar and would like to know if that CHIBSON Les Paul is still available to buy and how. Like your presentation .
Purchased my '59 Chibson LP 4 years ago and have not regretted it since. Frets wore down quickly. Electronics were crap and upgraded. ProTone Nashville LP bridge installed as well. Guitar Center could not tell the difference. Well worth the money and would buy another.
Chaz Padalino using a fake guitar makes u less of a musician
@E Ho what the fuck is that kind of argument? Using a fake guitar can make you less of an honest consumer perhaps, but it makes you less of a musician? Get the fuck out of here
@@user-zn3wm7pb3w Slash's first Les Paul was a fake and it said Gibson. Google it and you'll find the story. I think it is here on CZcams as well.
How do I find one
@@user-zn3wm7pb3w does not
It's quite funny when you know that the most legendary guitar of Slash (one of Gibson's biggets endorsers) was a Gibson Les Paul copy. AKA a counterfeit. 😁
I've seen some OK reviews for the "Glarry" branded instruments for entry/beginner level. It has been reviewed as "playable" after set-up. The prices are low (Lower prices than some Chinese KIT guitars) With only minor issues. One big attraction is they ship from inside US and have been responsive to customer problems for units ordered directly from their webstore.
I like the slow-groove background music, when you start talking
Yeah, I hate counterfeits too. But Gibson helped to do this to themselves. Like, if this guitar plays reasonably well with a couple of bux and a little tweaking, where does the extra $2200 that Gibson charges come in ?!? Gibson has been overcharging themselves out of the market for a while now.. Look around at local and national groups and what they are playing. I have a luthier friend with a shop in Merritt Island, Fl. that will build the guitar of your dreams to your exact specs for the price of an average Les.. IMHO.
Rick Mayo cause of brand
Build quality solid maple tops not veneers expensive pickups tuners bridge tailpiece electronics pots inspections quality control and part of it is labor cost it’s a whole Batch of things that set the two guitar apart
To be honest, SGs, Vs and Explorers are much more fairly priced.
Rick Mayo - [where does the extra $2200 that Gibson charges come in ?!?] It comes from running a factory, heating, cooling, equipment, insurance, employees. If they were making any money they wouldn't be in bankruptcy. Too bad our government has no interest in stopping illegal black market imports only for spending trillions on illegal wars in the interest of Israel. US taxpayers are even subsidizing shipping cost thru USPS. It costs the Chinese much less for the portion of shipping NY to Chicago then it does for someone shipping a guitar NY to Chicago.
You're missing the point, Rick Mayo, that mainly being...if Gibson wants to charge $40,000 for their guitars...THEY EARNED THE RIGHT TO! You don't want to buy them...hey, if NO ONE wants to buy them...that's Gibson's indigestion...not yours. BUT, if CHIBSON jumps in, makes a guitar for $250 and it sounds good...then you've got to ask yourself WHY ARE THEY stamping 'Gibson' on the heads?! I mean, they couldn't take 10-seconds to come up with 'Dragon', 'Starbite', or whatever cute name they want on it? Intentionally stamping Gibson (and, worse yet, Gibson (Les Paul)) means ONLY one thing...they are trying to make profits (larger profits) from Gibson's reputation as a world-class instrument company...and profiteering from another company's name or logo by stamping it on your products is called FRAUD within the U.S., so why give Chibson a pass because they are on another continent? Why can't they stamp another name on the guitar? Just reeks of 'identity theft' to me, personally...
It's no different than my wife buying a $100 Louis Vouttin knock off purse. All the money probably goes back to human trafficking anyway.
@@queentribute3144 I think he was making a joke.
If that's so, why not cut out the middle man and just buy a human for $100?
@@queentribute3144 Coming from knockoff Queen lmfao
@@queentribute3144 You kinda suck dude.
@@queentribute3144 this chibson is miles closer to Gibson than your band is to queen tho
you can tweak the frets, add new pickups and machines... take it apart and violate it in ways you'd never dream of doing to a real Gibson. a great learning tool that just might push you in the direction of becoming a luither or repair person. people said bad things about Korean guitars, and now Korean prs is a very nice playing guitar. love your honest insightful videos... keep them coming.
Maxwell, thanks for posting this and other videos. Partly due to what I heard from you and others, I ordered an Eastone, customized LP from Sarah's Guitar. I made sure it does not have 'Gibson' or serial numbers, and I encouraged the maker to proudly display their own name. Still, for 600 bucks plus tariff I'll have something that specs out a whole lot like the 2 Historics I already have. Heck it made sense. I could throw 600 at having the frets and binding replaced on my main Historic (you know they always crack the binding). Or I could get a cheaper LP, perhaps not as good as my Historic, but I can wear the heck out of that cheaper guitar fretboard, and not need to have my main Historic neck butchered. Anyhow, I got 2 more months to wait (total is around 3 mths), and I'm hopeful it will sound and feel at least as good as a higher-end Epiphone.
I am awaiting delivery of an Ace Frehley signature Les Paul. I couldn't pass it up so I hope it's decent.
Nice!
Yeah update pls
these guitars are great for beginners that dont have a lot of money to sink into gear. Also good for project guitars if you want a challenge to upgrade and make them decent guitars for an affordable price. Doesnt matter if it says gibson, esp, ibanez whatever, a good deal is a good deal.
That particular guitar sounds beautiful to my ears. Tonally a really great one. Might be worth a good bit of love
Max what about putting cheap electronics, nut and pickups in a Gibson and doing a comparison? I have always wonder, if the wood and construction do really play much of a role... Your channel is awesome, keep it up!
the guitarist in Guns and Noodles just landed a sponsorship deal with them.
I have a Chibson and I love it.
Can u please tell me where u bought it? Thank you in advance!
SHAZOM yeah I've heard some reasonable reviews of them,only a couple of bad ones
Where did you buy it?
Nice video! Just wondering.. did you need to have the frets refitted? I did have to get a huge fret job done on my guitar to remove some buzzing. Now the guitar sounds way better.
So I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro (black with the gold hardware) and I absolutely love it! Plays better then most guitars in its price range ($600). One of the reasons I absolutely fell in love with it is because it was so easy to set up. It probably only took me about 15 to 20 minutes to get it exactly where I wanted it. And I play the D'Addario 52 to 12's and relatively low tuning. Drop C, drop B... so keeping it in tune with every fret position properly with a 24.75 scale length isn't always the easiest thing to achieve with thick strings and low tuning. Not to mention, dropping the string action and making sure there is no fret buzz. So my question to you is, was it easy to set up and intinize? Or is it like a really cheap Squier or entry-level Epiphone whereas no matter what you do with the truss rod adjustment, the bridge adjustment, you still can't seem to get it perfectly intinized? I ask because I am thinking about getting one of the Chibsons as a backup guitar for my band for when we go on the road. Not to mention some of them come with really Kick-Ass cases.
I really don't understand all the negative comments. It is what it is. The oversea market has been coping brand guitars for years. I purchased my Chibson Custom Shop Black Beauty, Sept. this year (369.00), and except for the tuners, and strings, I have left it as is. I've been playing guitar for 50 plus years. Those of you that did'nt grow up playing Gibson/ Fender/ Gretsch as I did may find it hard to understand how much better the copies can be, then the originals in the good old days of Rock'n Roll. Depending on the factory that makes them, each factory as in the U.S. has quality control some less then best. I paid more using a USA broker. Bascily what I recieved was a a great guitar with a Gibson headstock. My rants over
Jim Pasquale I own a Gibson Les Paul Studio, the faded finish series. Brand new they go for almost 700 dlls, not sure I feel comfortable spending over 2 grand on a Les Paul Custom, especially since I play as a hobby only. Are you happy with your Chibson? I'd like a glossy finish with binding, and no I wouldn't sell it as if it were a real Gibson. I could always swap out the pickups, tuners and hardware too to upgrade it. Also, where can I find them?
Very happy with my 2017 model guitar. I highly recommend these guitars for both playability and price. "You get what you pay for, is the old saying, However in my case I got more then I paid for,with very little adjustments. My pickups are not marked epiphones as some of the earlier models, mine have no marking but sound similar to gibson humbuckers and updated wiring. Solid mahogany body, with a cap.
Mario,
There are several brokers that offer these guitars through veriest sources. I used eBay after checking out the seller/broker. Contact me and I will go into detail.
J/p
aliexpress
I'm an old-timer, and I can vouch that Jim is telling you the truth.
Nice guitar keep rocking
I'm a bit surprised by some of the facts on the guitar. I appreciate the review, nice lil' guitar. The problem is that guitar not only violates trade mark law but if it is made in China and marked Made in the USA it is in violation of US Customs Regulations (my field of expertise....boring as it is) and if they ship in a bunch of them they would be destroyed, literally, and the importer fined.
You're 100% correct. This guitar does violate a range of trademark, copyright, and customs laws. The trouble is in the enforcement of those laws (enforcing them in China), and the vast majority of these guitars get shipped in with no issues. Some of them are then sold to unsuspecting buyers on the used market. It's turned into quite an issue among collectors and people who deal with used equipment.
This is my field. If the guitar is not marked, clearly, with the country of origin/assembly so that it is permanent , to the end user, it is illegal. Customs must be overwhelmed because not marking China, or nothing at all, would not be legal. LA and San Francisco customs has destroyed tons of toys from China and I've had product seized because engineers 'forgot' to have the country of origin put down. Means little but if you buy a guitar and it is checked you lose the guitar and I wouldn't expect a refund.
@@stevevaughn2040 I believe these are sold as individual sales. And therefore not worth checking the country of origin. ebay has tons of these sold from china. From individual sellers, I believe they work for the factory.
It looks great , and sounds great.... why not .. I may get one soon .. awesome review. Thanks ..
I bought one in 2012, new nut, SD hot rodded set, and some set up. It was killer, it had some minor cosmetic things but not big deal, these guitars are nice for projects, and being a left hand player, it was nice to build to my own specs.
I paid 185 bucks.
the ethics in this instance is quite clear:It's stolen material. That being said, could this be an Honorable homage to Gibson and it's technology? That changes the scenario a bit in my opinion. Not a bad sounding guitar especially at $170.00 bucks.
Great guitars from Alibaba.........I have ordered 4 so far. They are awesome for the money. Arf the big companies trying to steal your money. So far I bought a nice Dreadnought, Travel guitar, Les Paul, and a Casino. They are all awesome.
I have a Chibson Les Paul I use on stage because I don't want my expensive Gibson broken or stolen.
All I did was change pickups. It looks great, plays great and sounds great.
The flamed maple to is fabulous.
Cost $300 from china.
Mine says Gibson and the serial number says made in U.S.
So, I can play it not worrying if anything happens to it while my $2700 Les Paul stays at home.
Great video! Are these basically Epiphone Les Pauls, made at the Epiphone factory?
Paul Wolfe Epiphone Les Pauls are genuine and of much higher quality in every area
Hey, I see that Lee Jackson Metaltronix back there ;)
It doesn't matter what you feel about the ethics - it is illegal and you can't sell it. Just get one without the Gibson logo on it and you have a good value 'copy'.
sorry squiggley, its not illegal and he CAN sell it. It would however be illegal for him to try and sell it as an original.. where do you guys come from?
Sorry Daddski 1, Under U.S. code tittle 19 chapter 4 it's still a trademark violation wether origin is disclosed or not. The Gibson logo alone is where a violation is occurring. It can NOT legally be sold or even GIVEN AWAY. This would be considered trafficking.
Get a Gibson tattoo. Cut off your arm are go to jail. Copyright lol!
I sold my Gibsons and started buying Chibs since the mtfkrs crushed the firebirdX with the escavator. I bought blank items and added myself PUs, tuners, wirings and all....Now they rocks❤
I did a repair on that ding on my Chibson's guitar body. I used an assortment of pointy tip tan markers bought on Amazon for $10 dollars. The pointy tips on the pens needed to be filed down with a jewelers file to get the pens to work for the touch up job. I used white out correction fluid as a filler on the guitar ding. The ding was not that big, one inch on the edge of the guitar. It was more of a crack on the edge of the wood than an actual ding. Then I put a coating of clear nail polish to seal it all up.
I love it.
They should've just made their own brand name cause if it plays good why not right and they could've sold it for twice as much.
Preacher curls and arpeggios
I like your videos,keep up man
Very nice playing, not too crazy about buying from China.
I have a lot of background noise at my home watching this, Did you mention what gear you are using after the guitar?
Do you recommend just rolling with a epiphone les Paul?
Fender doesn't have a problem slapping the word Professional series on their guitars and then selling them for $1,900+ tax. So I don't have a problem, with buying any guitar wherever it's made. However I usually just wait till April when every kid who thought guitar would be easy and got one for Christmas and now wants a new bike and sells them for cheap on Kijiji. All I can say is thanks for eating the depreciation value. New guitars now matter what they sell for go for 50% to 65% of what you paid for them new. The guitar industry is Hype and Bullshit.
Sounds just like car sales, huh?
I was 40 when I bought my last new car in an attempt to 'keep up with the Jones'...however, I figured this out about the guitar business back in 1974...
As for 'doesn't matter...just buy junior's lost guitar interest in April...'...well, since junior was given a 'flatteringly identical CHIBSON Gibson' that is now hanging in the pawn shop for $1,400...I now have to go through 15-hours of INSTRUMENT-BY-INSTRUMENT deep inspections, because now, you can't go by 'stamped name brand', but you have to inspect those Grovers, the knob symmetry, the fret ends...yep, and MAYBE you catch the flaw, and maybe you don't. Sorry...but when I buy a 3-year old MUSTANG, at least I don't have to worry about it REALLY BEING a 'mustang-labeled' CHISTANG....I know who makes parts for it, I know (generally) what to expect from it, and I know what it will resell for if taken care of. The problem with piracy and counterfeiting runs deep...and it ALWAYS ends up biting the little guy, in the end. If you don't see it yet, then just give it time...
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You said it......Bottom line is that a thing is right or it isn't.
The funny thing is that almost all of these guys who pretend not to inderstand that and buy the knockoffs will absolutly be seriously offended at any suggestion that they have stolen value from those who have invested years in the reputation and debelopment of a brand as well as those who spent what it took to buy the real article and now find their investment devalued by the imitations.
Posers, fakes, sidewalk commandos, and wanmabe's have NEVER had the respectibility they have pretended to.
Rebel Recluse Right you are buddy! I see higher end Gibson Les Paul standards,traditionals, etc.on my local craigslist all the time often going for 1.5k.or less.Most of the time the seller posts that it was hardly ever played. Why buy a brand new Les Paul standard for -on average 3k when you can get a practically new one for half that on CL- from a seller who thought the were going to learn how to play. So much for Gibson's "holding their value".....Maybe in 40 years when it becomes vintage. Have you priced a brand new Les Paul standard lately?
@@JamesAllenJr A buddy of mine had some Korean strat knockoff. The local guitar shop gave him some small amount for it as a trade-in on another guitar, and then the bastards stuck a Fender neck on it and hung it up for sale with a Fender price on it.
Wow the serial number says it was made in Nashville. Do they have Nashville in China?
Guitar Lust Euphoria it's kinda like how there is a town in Japan called "Usa".
No, it's to fool people into believing that it was made in the Gibson factory in Nashville.
No the truth is they legit named a area that so they can legally say it was made in Nashville lol no joke
yes just south of Beijing
I love your videos you are on spot. You like to do cheaper guitars so do a review on Hardluck Kings. I have their Bombshell and Lady Luck and they are pretty good guitars.
Where did you buy that guitar? I would like to buy a guitar like that ... Thanks
for another $100 you can put real Gibson pickups in it and it would probably sound a lot better
Guitarist 24 ikr
And, a better neck less prone to breaking! Gibsons are NOT worth the money they charge and IF you know how to setup, fret, wire, &c, you can do BETTER than Gibson does for a fraction of the cost.
and add CTS 525k pots with +-10% tolerance and K90y-9 PIO Caps and 50s wiring and it will sound better then standard equipped Gibson Les Paul. If someone is looking for quality USA made pickups GFS vintage 59 or GFS Crunchy Pat sound amazing. Check out youtube reviews. $25-30 each.
Guitar fetish is awesome!!!
These are the videos that need to be made.
is everything original because in my opinion it sounds really nice
Yes, I've left this guitar completely stock. One downside that doesn't come through in this video, is that at higher volumes, with gain, the pickups feedback extremely easily. Unless you're only using it for bedroom playing, I think changing the pickups out is essential.
Ok Thanks for the response
Nice to see Hellvis is still getting work,lol
Great video man.
Hello Maxx !
It looks a great guitar for the price. could you share the link shop were did you buy it?
Thanks!
Please read whole message to get my point. Thanks.I'm almost 65,played music since I was 13,even in bars. Back until the late 70s, you had to buy either European or North American(US & Canada). I retired from gigging at 34,started a family,took up acoustic,& just wrote for many years. 2004, I started working in an independently owned store, with at least 500-700 guitars at any given time.WE had an import side, & an "American" side.Used Gibsons,Fenders,, dealers for Epiphone,Washburns,Martins,Guild,Tacomas,G&Ls,etc.,etc. The only bass I had left after playing Daytona Beach for Miller Beer for 6 weeks, then a hotel on the beach 6 weeks(all during spring break) was an Ibanez Roadstar2 I bought new for $200,with case. Still got it, plus about 60-70 other guitars,electric,acoustic, & bass. In the 70s I played a Gibson Thunderbird, a Ric4001, & a Fender P bass with a jazz neck,Hagstrom,Kramer. T-Bird was my pure Thunder,when played through my '75 SVT & 16 10s. I ended up throwing the P bass across the stage at Daytona's favorite club, the neck kept "freaking out". Had a 72 Telecaster bass I liked,owned Ebo & 3,hated both of them. In my opinion the T-Bird is the only decent bass Gibson ever made,at least that I played. When the reissued them,they stuck those cheap looking black pickups & baby tuners on them. PUKE! Now Epiphone is making a Classic lV , 7 piece neck through,chrome T-Bird ceramic pups with chrome rings,chrome elephant ear tuners. Actually looks like a real T-Bird, & sound great. My point is that after being out of music for 20 years, when I went to work in this store I was amazed at the quality of the now Korean(Cort),Chinese , & now even Indonesian guitars, at reasonable prices(back in the 70s you couldn't give me an asian guitar. I read numerous times in the MMR mags about 20 year Gibson dealers telling them to "Go away" tired of your junk quality & totally insane buy-in prices. They also said they had to choose from what was left after the big 7 Internet stores picked over everything. Great way to treat long time brick & mortar local dealers. I totally disagree with China or anyone else infringing upon another brand's name,they should come up with their own brands,period. But, for you a--holes that think everything Chinese or Korean is krap, why don't you take a trip there & examine their intricate architecture,hand made, out of wood,bone ivory,whatever, & then tell me they can't build a great guitar! They built these artistic,intricate works 3000-4000 years ago!!! I hate greed, & sorrowfully Gibson is the epitomy of greed in the guitar marketplace, & I remember a few years back it was voted one of the top 5 worst places to work in in America,as is Peavey now, from what I understand. I have a '57 J45,however I always play one of my Epi Masterbilts,or my used Martin,or some guitars I've payed less than $100 for! As far as I'm concerned,any body that pays more than,(let's be lenient)$2000 for a guitar fits into the category of "A fool & his money are soon parted". The quality of my Chinese guitars,&Japanese, & now some high end Indonesian Washburns, are more than enough for ANY good musician to go out & make a living with. Give Clapton an $80 strat, & I bet he could make it sound good. I have two Carvins(Now Keisel-ugh!) & you can buy a better guitar from them than Gibson for a third(or less) of the price any day,plus you can have it made any way you want it.Gibson,you were once great, now GET REAL,OR FADE AWAY! Players, your music comes out of your hands,heart, & emotions, not out of a brand name!
Ed Sheeran uses a few 100 dollar guitars per year. If you can play you can get music out of anything.
blah blah... who the hell cares about your rant ?
As you can now see, Gibson is closing
If gibson wasn't making shit to start with and slapping a 2000 dollar logo on it they wouldn't have went bankrupt. I just paid 1100 CDN for a Godin tele style guitar sounds amazing and is made here in north america. Bought a used Godin Icon type 2 for 800CDN and it is better by a long shot than 2 of my LPs, All the gibsons I have played had tuning issues, my Godin doesn't. They use good tusq nuts and it makes a major difference esp because they don't have a bad break angle on the headstock.
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Clapton can make a $6000 guitar sound boring.
Great review. Much appreciate your objectivity and NO hate on replicas. I call them replicas. Slash played one on AFD album. He didn't have real Gibson. He had replica when he was broke.
These aren't "replicas". They're counterfeits. BIG difference (in quality, not necessarily legality)!
You all are judging the guitar in completely wrong way. For $170 your expectations should be getting mohogony wood, well designed dimensions of guitar and one piece neck and awesome aesthetic finish. That's it!!!! WHY Simply. SD pickups by themselves cost $200. WTF some of you expect for the price tag. You will be upgrading electronics anyway. You upgrade to 50s wiring with 525k CTS pots and new K40-9y PIO caps and lets say GFS vintage 59 pickup in neck and crunchy pat in bridge and you have better then Gibson stock guitar with guitar cost under $500. Gibson QA is not great these days anyway. You're gambling on it with excessive price tag.
Sebastian Sefyu There are plenty of sub-$500, hell, even sub-$300 guitars, that are of a much better build-quality, than 99% of the counterfeits out there.
In other words, there is absolutely NO reason to buy counterfeit guitars (or anything else, for that matter)...other than to be a poseur.
Replicas! Slash played one on most epic and famous album called Appetite for Destruction. So one of the most famous albums was created on counterfeit. Kinda ironic aint it
Sebastian Sefyu The real irony is, Gibson actually made a replica of it. So, technically, they themselves are "counterfeiters". ;)
Seriously, though, there is a HUGE difference between "replicas" and conventional counterfeits. The main one being, replicas aren't mass-produced, for the sole intention of defrauding people.
Very very interesting video ! Thank you !!!
This was a great review.
MaxxxwellC: I'm a NYCer now living in Hong Kong, which is ostensibly a part of China [legally] but still a million miles away from China in terms of [generally speaking] IP protection and respect. This whole issue of Chibsons, Chenders, Chi-RS, ChIbanez, etc...all comes down to essentially one thing - unlike in the West, where the very concept of blatant copying is discouraged, often illegal and generally frowned up, in China, blatant copying is not only allowed, it is often encouraged. Why? Because the only thing that matters in much of China is making money. How that money is made in terms of ethical conduct is often a secondary, tertiary or even non-existent consideration especially for Chinese companies that don't have large Western customers or global clientele.
A simplification to be sure, but IMO/IME, generally correct.
Being born and raised in the West, this whole concept of blatant copying in China irritates me no end. To my mind, there are several major problems.
From a purely Chinese business/industrial development perspective, this kind of blatant copying will prevent China from ever becoming a true economic center of high quality product manufacturing a la post-war Japan and even what South Korea and Taiwan has achieved. The focus for the last 20+ years in China has been to grow their economy as fast as possible in order to lift up as many Chinese citizens as possible, with pretty much all other considerations being ignored.
I don't want to rant too much here, but this is my feeling in a nutshell.
If the Chinese guitar companies were to make blatant copies of legit brands BUT completely RE-BRAND them I would have far less issues. Use the LP shape. Use the Strat, Tele shape. Use PRS shapes. Use Ibanez shapes. Whatever. But absolutely USE THEIR OWN CHINESE BRANDING.
This would entirely mitigate the whole obviously DECEPTIVE nature of what they are doing - the lying would stop. At the same time, if the Chinese were really going to start building top quality guitars with their own brands, who knows what could happen in the market? Suppose they create their own brand of LP style guitars that actually give Gibsons a true run for their money? Long-term, how would this be a bad thing for those Chinese companies chasing legitimate reputations and for us as consumers?
Instead, they are spending all their efforts in making truly blatant copies of legit brands and now even going so far as to imprint legit Gibson, Fender, etc, serial numbers on their crap copies. If that is not 100% intentional deception and lying I don't know what is.
It is exactly this kind of blatant lying and deception which frustrates me the most.
Yet, I don't know who is really behaving worse - all those Chinese copiers or those fricking shill buyers of blatant copy guitars in the rest of the world who attempt to cheat the [generally] ill-informed public into believing they are actually buying legit LPs, Strats, etc...Get my meaning?
The point is that unless and until the Chinese get their act together and change fundamental ways they design, market and manufacture products, they will never ever create truly meaningful, global brands such as Sony, Ibanez, Samsung, LG, HTC, etc....
They CAN do it and succeed legitimately - just look at OnePlus, Xiaomi, Huawei and Lenovo just to name a few globally legit brands in the tech sector [although there are still basic issues of trust and transparency with many of those Chinese brands like Lenovo who got caught red-handed installing malware/spyware on their laptops]. Still, those brands above are moving in the right direction.
The Chinese need to ask themselves real hard questions like: why are pretty much all Japanese [and even South Korean and Taiwanese] products and companies so desirable and "trusted" on the global marketplace? How did those countries get there?
After all, I don't know about you but for the time being, every time I see a MADE IN CHINA label I generally have a radically different perception than I do to MADE IN JAPAN, MADE IN KOREA or MADE IN TAIWAN labels.
rant over... :D
cheers and happy 2018!
May 1, 2018, Gibson filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
It takes time my friend. Japan named a town Usa a short time after the end of WW II so they could legitimately mark made in USA on their products. It took all of the countries you mentioned a lot of time to evolve into producing quality products. You should have seen the first Honda car imported into the United States from Japan. That product just popped into my mind. I'm quite sure the Chinese Guitar market will be no different.
I bought a Chibson LP guitar made to my spec. Cost in total 270euro. The guitar is amazing. Well after a fret dress and rounded of the fret edge binding. I even had them make one piece body and neck with flamed maple binding. Not the usual plastic. I play this guitar all the time. I have Gibson guitars but i play this chinese clone more. Am i crazy or something ?
I thinks that's because you've built guitar after you own specs. Mine cost me $420. Same single piece body and neck, bone nut, and a solid, real mapple top (+$120). Yes, I had to dress frets myself. This is my favorite guitar now, others being Hamers (USA) Californian elite'90 and Chaparral Custom'86.
Well actually i have two Chibsons the other also has full flame maple top and nitro sprayed. This one cost me 500 euro, but it looks and plays stunning. They both look to be same sort of mahogany they use, but this one is noticeably heavier. I think i will sell my real LP as i have an old Greco super real that i play more than the Gibbo. And spend money on different pickups. I have a Gibson SG that is a keeper for sure !!
Don't know, go to see a doctor
Malcolm Hardwick is it possible to get a custom shop "BC Rich warlock"?
Eh I think ur smarter than some fools that think all USA products are the best
Congratz on the buy
Great video , one of the best guitar demos... because you actually talked about the guitar and showed details instead of playing for 10 minutes like some do. In regards to buying one , some things to think about. If you ever sale it , you have to tell the buyer it's a counterfeit , some probably wouldn't , but...they should. If you're buying it just so you can say you own a Gibson...that's dumb coz you know it's not. It sort of makes you wonder why we're so stuck in wanting a brand name only. Now I've read some comments about Epiphone. I have a dot , and it plays and sounds good . I wanted a Gibson , but the dot is fine for me. I was thinking of buying a China made Trini Lopez guitar....but if Epiphone made one , I'd buy the epi. Although I do have a problem with the ripping off of another companies product , so in the end I probably won't buy one .
Gibson has brought a lot of this on themselves.
*Chibson Epiphony*
I just got meself a phony Fender for 900$. Apparently it's made in Mexico :p
The only difference between that and a USA model is the assembly labor is Mexican. All the parts are the same as the USA model.
Nope. I've owned a few MIM/MIA Strats, and the bodies/necks are different. MIM bodies usually have a "swimming-pool" routed under the pickguard, while the US models are routed for each, individual pickup. The necks are different too.
Dennis Thompson I got myself a MIM Roadhouse Deluxe 2017, and it's beautifully set-up. I actually chose it over an American Pro/Standard, as it felt better, had two point vibrato and locking. I don't regret not buying the MIA. I put on 10's and intonated, and it plays great. Also, my neck radius is the same as Eric Johnson's; I for get what that is.
The tex mex Fenders arn't phony..some demand high dollar..same as japan made ones..
They may be better now, but my Mexican Fender Jazz that I bought in the 90s for $350 is a piece of Junk. I played on it for years thinking Fender basses were just crap until I got to play a real one. I've replaced both pickups and done extensive experimental mods to it. The neck has been warped from day one which I originally thought was just a bad set up and the nature of these necks. A Luther friend of mine tried every he could to fix it. The truss rod is maxed out and won't turn any further.
Like I said, the Mexico Fenders may have improved in quality over the years, but in the 90s and early 2000s, they were trash buckets.
This guitar looks like the one you used in your video clip in the cave, did you replace the pick ups? Sounds amazing
I love your Channel Max!!!!!
Don't support the counterfeiters . . Buy a Rondo Agile if you want a cheap LP . .
Some of Agiles are great!
Agreed, I own several. Excellent value for the money, about the same as a Chibson, without pretense of being something they're not.
Here are my thoughts on the ethics of buying a replica guitar:
Gibson and other guitar manufactures spent years, money, and research in order to create their products. They filed the legal work in order to protect their brand from being misused and to protect their intellectual property from being stolen from others. While companies like Ibanez and Tokai have built Les Paul models, they did not use the trademarked Gibson logo on their guitar's headstock nor did they mark the guitar as being "Made in the USA" and put a fake serial number on it. What these Chibson manufacturers are doing is illegal and they are causing the growing risk for unsuspecting consumers to purchase fake Gibsons from second hand sellers. If these Chinese manufacturers want to sell Les Paul inspired models, then go for it however they can't be slapping the Gibson logo on it, marking it as being made in the USA, and putting a fake serial number. None of those logos are true and no matter how many upgrades you put on your Chibson, it will never be a Gibson. I work at a law office that specializes in consumer protection and what these Chibson manufacturers are doing is highly illegal and anyone who tries to sell these to public are violating many basic consumer laws.
Gus g you do great reviews.
Sorry for repeats, I made this question on another video also, I was looking into purchasing a copy, I've seen Rainguitar, Starshine, Burny, China guitar-Custom Store. To mention a few. What are you showing in your video?
Well, it sounds good to me. Especially for that damn price!!! I didn't want the counterfeit one, as you have to be careful with customs when traveling, it is illegal to sell it, etc...SOooo I went and got the VINTAGE- Brand V 100, the hardware is great, all mahogany, sounds and feels fantastic!!! AND it stays in tune forever!!!! And I PLAY it hard!!! Getting back to ethics, yeah, I don't like the idea of it saying "Made in USA, when it's not,, also the Gibson logo, REALLY?!!!come on!!!! Yes the real Gibsons cost a kidney, but they last and last, and the sound gets and better with time. But I am not happy with the newer models, channeling in the body to make it lighter, g-force tuning gadgets, and yes, the QC is just not the same. Older ones seem to be the ticket. In the past we all know the just trying to get a knock off guitar like the one you are holding was just impossible. SURE the Japanese made great copies, and the Korean Epiphone guitars were very well made... if you ever get the chance try a Vintage V100 Les Paul, they are basically THE closest thing, but having said that, they cost 350-400 bucks, more than the chibsons, and in the states hard to come by. The UK will send one out to you though. I use mine in the Studio, and live, believe me it rocks!!!Great video bud. Take care, Jessie.
leftymadrid Well said. Ethically I do not believe it should be allowable for it to say either “Gibson” or “Made in USA” - that is fraud and should be stopped at Customs.
My ethics are that if Gibson maintained the quality of their guitars of the 60's & 70's, I would totally object to these guitars being imported with a Gibson name. But, that doesn't seem to be what has been happening. However I do wish that these Chinese companies would find their own name for marketing these guitars. A decent guitar at an affordable price is still a benefit, especially for someone trying to learn guitar. Names on the headstock don't matter.
Fantastic Review! Nice!
Your reviews are really specific and precise. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the Vid & I love that Gain is that a Pedal or Amp Dist ?>
You're welcome. The gain is from the Blackstar ID Core that I'm playing through.