My First CHIBSON! Demo / Review and MODS! (Are Fake Les Pauls Good?)
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
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00:00 Intro
01:00 Let’s Plug it in
01:27 Bad Nuts
02:31 Original Pickups
03:15 Pre Modifications
03:59 Time Lapse Work
06:10 Luthier Trip
07:41 What Did We Change
09:23 Fuzz
09:58 Chorus Pedal
10:46 Compressor
11:08 Pickup Height
12:56 Rat Distortion
13:16 Nirvana Test
13:41 Ultra Metal Distortion
14:37 Guitar Fetish Pickups
15:36 Envelope Filter
17:06 Fake Gibson
17:54 How to Spot a Fake
21:56 How Does It Feel
23:06 Amp Sim Sounds
25:15 Outro
27:03 Don’t Watch This
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Good job on the mods. Thank you for the honest review. Nice playing!
Thanks for watching. I have another chibson video coming soon !
Here's the thing w/ Chibsons especially more recently. They're not bad, consider the cost for what it is, it's not bad as long as you're not expecting a 200-300 guitar to have the QC and sound of a 2000-4000 actual LP Standard or Custom. And just don't nitpick the details. Think of it as a different guitar guitar that's in the 200-300 range, if you do that then they're great. The oldest one I still have is 8 years old and I remember so many commenters on YT saying they won't last a year, they're only good for fire wood etc. That 8 year old Chibson of mine gets played a lot, has traveled w/ me tens of thousands of miles and it's still a great guitar. Yes, I did mod it as soon as I got it. I put in a roller bridge from Guitar fetish, I kep the original tail piece, just cause nothing wrong with it, I put a Tusq nut on it, a set of locking tuners cause I had some and originally a set of Seymours, now it has EMG's. Still looks, feel and sounds amazing. Total cost I put into it, about 450.00 total. I have a real LP, it's been in its case for over a year, i just haven't gotten around to taking it out and playing it cause the Chibson and my Harley Benton SC-550 plus EMG's are great, why put wear, tear on my real one right now?
They really aren't bad! So 'not bad' in fact, that I got another! video soon!
@@TheMixWithABD I find it funny when people start picking these guitars apart. They are $200-250 guitars. Even after the mods and setup etc, they are a great deal. But its funny that people expect a Chibson to play out of the box like a $3k guitar. Its $2700+ less. Think about the amp you could buy, the tubes, or pickups for the Chib and all the other things you can do with that money. I have a nice Chib, ive owned 3 and they keep getting better. I give them to friends as gifts. Before i gave these guitars to my friends (who are guitar players of decades) and they thought they were real. They have gotten that close where after you mod one people can def fall for it being real. Thats what i dont like about them in that aspect, someone taking advantage of anotehr person. But for personal use or helping a friend out with a guitar that they have always dreamed of but never would have the $ for. THe one i have been putting together is awesome guitar. Was $234 shipped to me from a seller in the US. Took 6 days to get the guitar. Ebay search this stuff. Dont have to wait 45-60 days or deal with Customs. But for $400-450 total these can turn into one hell of a guitar and in the process some of yall might learn something about repairing or doing work on guitars in general. Thats where i see these as a plus, after i did the frets and modded it, it truly was a "Custom" guitar that didnt cost me an arm and a leg. I own real Gibson guitars (expensive ones at that) and im telling ya if you get a good one of these and put the time and effort into the guitar, its well worth it and its nice to not have to bring out guitars that are well over $3k on tour with me.
@@ctcards2636 where yo you find these chipsons at that low of a price. every one i looked at are almost 400 bucks. you have a link?. all im really wanting is the complete carcass of a cheap guitar
@@heres2ya Also if you look at my videos, i have a recent video of one of mine.
The haters are full of shit.
I have a Chibson that I had to do all kinds of bending and twisting to it get it to play. Also the bridge was located about a 1/4" too far from the neck making it impossible to tonate. But after all that, it turned out to be a damn nice guitar.
You can buy a gibson with the exact same issues as well.
At least your being positive about the guitar. I bought 2 of them already I really think they are great for the money. It’s perfect first guitar to start experimenting with thank for being honest and not scared to give it some credit. Ya get what you pay for but Gibson has put out some junk in there day for 10 times the price.
Just wait! I got another chibson and it’s even better. Video soon
@@TheMixWithABD Rite On!
Which GFS humbuckers did you use? I have a '96 Samick SG (back when Samick made Epiphone) and never been happy with the neck pickup.
I finally gave in and purchased the Jimmy Page Signature Tobacco Burst Gibson Les Paul with the 50's style green tuners, a real bone nut, a chrome covered coil neck humbucker pickup and an open coil "mini" bridge humbucker pickup. I was floored when it showed up in only 5 days and right outta the box the finish just blew me away. I used to own a real Gibson Tobacco Burst Les Paul (which I loved), but the finish on this guitar is simply flawless and it's much deeper than my real Gibson Tobacco Burst Les Paul was. The neck feels amazing and honestly, the fretwork is the most perfect fretwork that I have ever encountered. It is that awesome. That's real talk.💯 The intonation is dead on the money all the way to the top and all the way back down to the sweet AF bone nut that is as much deserving of mention as the 50's style green tuning pegs. Between both of them, I can play song after song, bend the living $#i+ outta these (OEM/outta the box) strings and this baby stays in tune. Hell, I even banged the headstock into the damn wall really good two or three times already (I play 'em, I don't really polish them, so no worries) and it didn't have any effect on the tuning stability and I have never had that happen before and toss in the fact that I only paid $168 total for this awesome axe and it would be a complete dick move for me to tell anyone of you guys that this guitar isn't worth the money. Hell, Im'na buy an Explorer this week and next week 🤔... 😎 Flying V baby! And the crazy part is... I can still afford to go to Disney Land afterwards. 🧚🎆🏰🚝🛸🪐💫🏔️
I have four: a Gold Top Standard, a "Black Beauty" Custom; a Cherry Sunburst Standard; and an "Alex Lifeson Signature" semi-hollow. Spent a lot of time on the frets and adjusting the truss rod on a some of them. The Gold Top is the only one with decent fret work out of the box. None of them with nibs, of course. The most expensive was the semi-hollow at $280. The cheapest was the "Black Beauty" Custom for $210, all with shipping included. Speaking of "Customs" - only one went through US Customs - in NY, of all places. One actually came from a seller in LA, California. I love all of them and they are for my personal use and collection. For the record, I have several Squiers and no "real" Fenders.
I got another. It’s a black custom. It friggin rules. Look forward to the video. I appreciate you watching!
I just ordered my first Chibson…I have high end guitars…I ordered a chibson gary Moore/greeny …I plan to have a few mods ..like yours..Your tutelage…was very helpful…seems like you have a decent …guitar for almost any purpose now…You emphasized yes they are inexpensive…however you have to realize they will need new tuners ,pups…etc but it’s cool…🤙🏻🎸..Ps the guitar fetish who I’ve used …those pickups are very decent paf…pups….potted …sound nice..good job…
Hey Glen when ever you get time I'd appreciate it if you could let me know how it turned out. I've almost convinced myself to get one. Steve sterlacci has a video of same guitar he demos he loves his says its a great one. Man if yours turns out nice or better I'm pulling the trigger. Thanks. P.S. also my first chibson.
Your honesty is invaluable. I normally f’king hate videos in which the idiots would gush about the sh’tty fake guitars after spending serious dollars and effort to make the fake guitars better. They could simply spend the same dollars on used Epiphones or even used real Gibsons. I actually enjoyed your video.
I've been looking for one to mod just for the heck of it and this video came out pretty recently so good timing I suppose
The steeper angle on the Gibson headstock causes more string drag than the Chibson will encounter with it's shallower headstock angle making tuning much more stable. After a good string bend on the Gibson it will be slightly out of tune unless the nut string grooves are expertly cut and lubed.
Love how he is on the neck pickup saying it’s kinda muddy lol
I got a actual Gibson L P studio and made changes to it. Pups (496/500) ,locking bridge , CTS 500K pots, 50's wiring w/ Garrett cloth wire, Switchcraft switch and jack, Tusc XL nut and Kluson locking tuners. Just to make it playable. J K . To make it daily workable tool.
I have 8 of them.. all but one are wonderful.. one has all updated stuff.. nut, pickups, switch, pots .. bumblebee caps.. .. and a fret milling.. but depends on the maker... you can have them made to specks now.. the ones out of the shops not communication .. off the shelves.. not so good.. but fun.. lol
Okay so let's cut to the chase.. if you change the nut, change the tuners, and change the pickups then you're good to go correct? I mean is this a solid constructed guitar otherwise?
Honestly. Absolutely. I didn’t change the nut. Might in the future. The neck is a little thick for my liking. Some of it looks a bit awkward. But I think it’s good to go. I got another one, from a different seller so if that tells you anything… they’re good.
I am a diehard Fender guy (Strats, Teles) but just picked up a Chib LP - I am going to gut the electronics, get new humbuckers, switch, pots, jack, nut and tuners. It should be sweet afterwards. Perfect for my needs.... Also, the Gibson has a 3 piece neck (ironically!), but the import is one piece. I can't believe the are so cheap. For $500, you can customize it to play like a $3K LP.....
So HB compatible with chib..how about the truss rod cover?..
If you find the right seller, yes. The truss Rod cover is a genuine Gibson that I put on
i have had a couple of chibsons and realistically for the £200-£300 you pay you get a fairly good basis , you spend another say £500 on pickups and a set up fret dress and new nut , you have a good quality LP for under a grand
Exactly. Since this video I got a black lp custom. A white les Paul SG. And a gold explorer. All incredible guitars after some work. I have the first parts (unboxings) on my channel with more videos in the works! Thanks for watching ❤️
I know you obviously can’t provide a link but could you point me in the right direction as to where to get one of these?
I got all of mine off of ebay. Just search for Les Paul style guitars
Or try. Dh gate. Throatclear...cough cough.....
How the A string touches the E string tuning peg on the headstock bothers me.
It doesn’t actually touch but it’s very close. Closer than a real Gibson.
I can't believe I'm listening to a Friedman, sounds worse than my line 6, 15watt practice amp,I thought those amps had more bass response, all mids and treble.
You’re hearing it through an attenuator which removes a lot of the low end. I think I high passed the audio quite a bit too. As the mic I record with picks up a lot of low end. This was one of the the first videos I made for the channel. But I also didn’t love the Friedman and sold it.
I've had a few of these and here's my take. All hardware, electronics & nut need to be replaced. Tuners & knobs need to be drilled for bigger holes as well. Neck needs a good setup, & fret level, and always a few frets need replacing, or to be glued, etc. By the time you pay for all that work to be done, this $250 guitar now costs $500+, and you could've bought a sweet, used Epiphone. I think we all get mind f'd by seeing the Gibson logo, and think these are better than they really are.
I hate that people make this content and you have 40 people in the comments talking about buying these pieces of shit. People would rather give money to organized criminals who run slave labor operations than a legit company and it's frustrating. It's DELUSION that people think they are going to put some parts on these things and make them anywhere near a Gibson.
i love mine..with some mods.
I haven't bought a Chibson, but I have 6 mighty fine Firefly's that needed minimal work, and 7 IYV's. Bith brands needed nothing but the average set up.
Firefly’s are pretty good. Haven’t played an IYV
Don't buy these things. Please. It's not worth it. They looks decent EXTERNALLY but are terribly made internally.
Why no one watch good videos
most reviews are ads especially firefly guitar reviews
I have at least six different ones, from hollows to Supremes. Overall, good value. They don’t compare to the original, however. I’ve had some show up damaged and they reimburse about 80% and you keep the axe. If you’re interested in “really personal” customization, drill with confidence, you can always get another one.
I’ve bought 6 more since this video. One video is up on my channel, more coming soon
As a woodworker of 50+ years, a 3 piece glued up body will be straighter over time because of the counter action of the 3 different pieces cupping in opposite directions,
A one piece body will be the worst as it will cup and be concave or convex depending how you look at it. 1+ for 3 piece body as long as they alternate the growth rings.
But guitar bodies are sealed with paint + laquer, so no moisture can negatively influence the wood?!
Just stick with your woodworking, mate. Guitar makers are absolutely alright in their way with woods.
I Bought 1 and It will Give A real LP a run for Their Money, It Sounds, Plays and looks Killer. Just a little Bit Luthier Work and Wallah Bad Ass guitar for 2 Hundo
I have bought 6 since this video. One video is up, unboxing a SG custom. More videos coming! Thanks for watching!
bullshit
A common refrain from Chibsonistas is basically "if you buy a $350 guitar, and add $300 in new hardware, and do work that would otherwise cost you at least $200 from a guitar shop, you'll have a reasonably decent $500 guitar." Of course, if you sell it to someone as a fake, and they sell it to someone else as a Gibson, you could be facing jail time for conspiracy to commit grand theft fraud (because you were aware it's counterfeit).
Setting all that aside, if you want a really good LP-like guitar because you are actually a musician, there are plenty of LEGAL options that won't require hundreds of bucks in parts: Tokai, Austin, Oscar Schmidt, Burny, Epiphone, Orville.... My current favorite is a Washburn WI-66V: fully bound, quilt top, mahogany body and neck, stock Rotomatics, and a floating trem (!!); these generally sell in the $400 range.
I have a Gibson LP. I more recently got a chibson SG and Explorer. After some work they’re both as good as any $2000 guitar. I have/ have played a lot of guitars. There’s some great builders in China. Might as well get one with no name on the headstock. Win win.
try not to backyard lawyer
Good for you for making a video. A good investment would be the “Guitar Player Repair Guide” by Dan Erlewine. Dan goes over all of this stuff so you can learn what the real info is. 👍
But plenty of people change out bridges, tuners, pickups, nuts, etc on Gibson's too. If the body and neck are good, that other stuff is minor.
It’s a surprisingly solid (good) body. With a very thick neck. I usually don’t like thick necks but it feels great. If I put fancier pickups in it, it would sound phenomenal. The pickups are also not set up very well for this demo. I’ve since adjusted the pole pieces.
@@TheMixWithABD is the neck comfortable? Plays nice? How do you know who to buy from? I would like one, I used to own real ones, but I just can't afford it right now. Can you tell me where you got that?
@@tomdecuca3627 the neck does feel and play nice. The fretwork is surprisingly good. You may be able to find something similar on a site like Ali Express
@@tomdecuca3627 I have another chibson video coming soon. Stay tuned!
Right on!!!
Gibson uses Speed Knobs. Vintage reissues use the old knobs.
They don’t use speed knobs on the standards
Gibson uses real mahogany, real hide glue, real parts, real pickups and pay workers who aren't literal slaves to make your guitar.
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I would just get a real bone nut and call it a day. The plastic nuts that these come with are garbage. $12 nut is more than worth it or spend a little more on a graphtech. But thats one place on a guitar to never cheap out on.
I agree!. I just wish I had some nut files and experience changing nuts. A lot of the time the slot on the headstock is crooked on these Chinese guitars so it makes it harder to change to a new one.
Wood bone?
@@danielpguitar That was a bad typo. I just mean a "Bone nut". The plastic nut loses vibration and sucks the tone out of a nice LP style guitar easy. A bone nut will increase sustain. Also they cut these plastic nuts terrible where i dont even think you can "fix" it. I just mean it is easy enough to just add a bone nut or bring it to a tech that can install one for you. You can have the best tuners and bridge and all the great polished frets, but if the nut isnt cut right or is junk then the whole thing suffers big time. Intonation can also be a huge issue with a badly cut or cheap nut.
@@ctcards2636 nah. Just buy a real gibson. Those things are terrible no matter what you change. They still are terrible
@@danielpguitar Im telling ya i have 28 years of experience with playing and owning well over 100 guitars. These new ones are not like the old ones. I love this thing and for the price i am shocked. Im not gonna argue here with ya about it. Just saying test one of the new ones out, its worth the $230 gamble if you want to look at it that way. "Just buy a Gibson"... We are looking at a $2700 price difference. Its not a simple purchase haha. I own the real deals and i can tell ya these are so close it is indeed scary. But I cant say they are consistent and ive seen bad ones. But personally i have had good luck. I know how to work on guitars and these were very very easy to get setup. But would i buy a $3500 Gibson again ? No. The QC sucks at Gibson now a days and the Gibson's i own are "real" Gibsons in my book because their new over priced crap is just that... crap. Anywhoo thats my 2 cents and i think for the $230, its well worth the price of admission. Ive seen some crazy bad newer Gibsons that have the same problems as past people have had with Chibsons, if not worse. There are videos on youtube and more than enoug hmessage forums out there. But if your gonna base not liking these guitars off one you bought 10 years ago, theres no comparison. They have caught up with the QC from my experience purchasing these from a reputable seller on ebay. They also come with a 30 day money back or replacement. So if ya get a bad one, just send it back for $0 and have them send you another one. Or if you really arnt happy get your $ back and it cost you $0. I received mine for a US seller on ebay in 6 days. What is there to lose ? Nothing. If ya dont like, send it back and get your money back or ask for another. But we are talking about $230. Not $3000. Most of us can afford the price of admission for a real Gibson. For some people a nicely setup one of these is perfect and close enough for them. Peace and have fun folks, i know ive had a lot of fun modding and jamming with this guitar. Looks and plays great.
You can hear the innotation is way off, the chibsons get out of tune fast, the tone lacks a lot of sound, if you put a bit more gain its squealing like crazy that your ears bleed out, not to mention that in about 1-2 years almost everything from the Tone switch to knobs will wobble and mostly fall off, the frets will wear out in a year, a slight temperature change will warp the neck... Chibsons are very very bad. The only good thing about Chibson is you can pose with it and show off as if you have an expensive Ginsons LP.
People that get Chibsons because that's what they can afford should cut the nut first before going and getting new tuners they can't afford.Sometimes the tuners aren't the biggest problem it's the nut throwing it out of tune.
Fantastic advice
How about just buy a guitar that isn't a piece of shit that's made by organized criminals? I can't imagine buying a guitar knowing I'm going to have to do a bunch of work on it. Just save your money and buy an Epiphone 1959. At least those are WORTH upgrading. Come on.
I believe its a mustache not a book
I believe they call it the “open book” headstock internally
I think you tried hard to make it sound cheap. Most of us are not playing on stage, so those of us playing in our den or basement I think they are great and I didn't have to mortgage the house.
For its price, China makes attractive instruments, while the price of the original is completely inadequate for the average buyer. You can improve your Chinese guitar a little and be fine. If something happens to it, you will not worry too much, this is how a working tool should be
It's Gib-sUn ;) cause it's coming from china hahah
Every guitar is going to need to be set up whether it's a $1,500 or a $300 guitar. And pickups are not that expensive. So, is it worth it? Yes.
Gibson pickups can be over $200 a pup. Gross. I have another chibson video I just finished up. Exciting stuff. Debating when to post it…
I'll never understand the delusion that people think a $300 guitar will ever sound like a $1500 guitar. Cognitive dissonance is powerful I understand but a well setup $300 guitar is still a $300 guitar. Save the money and give it to a reputable company that PAYS their workers and get a product that, if something goes wrong, you actually have company support.
@@autodidacticprofessor869That is absolutely not true at all. Do you think that a 1,500.00 guitar is made of some magic wood or something? It all comes down to a good setup and good electronics. If you put good electronics in an inexpensive guitar it will sound exactly like an expensive one. I think the delusion may be coming from you. This is what's called the placebo effect. You think with that price tag it must sound good. So your mind makes up that it sounds better but in reality it sounds exactly the same as a cheap guitar. I have been playing for over 50 years.
Nice hate. Family
Why not just buy a Epiphone
The headstock I guess??
totally agree.
Still kinda has the tone of a ham sandwich.
Sounds more to be a product of clueless EQ/generally bad tone.
Ya get what ya don't pay for. I just don't get how so many people find so many way's to justify theft. What's worse is the people who re sell these POS's as the real thing. Humanity at it's finest. If ya want a Gibson, save up and get one.
It really sounds bad
Buying one guitar I think is ok but buying more than one is not you might as well buy the real Gibson.
Since this video I have purchased 6 Chinese fakes. A couple of them have become some of my favorite / best guitars. Check out the videos on my channel.And I have many more Chibson videos coming. There are some absolutely stellar luthiers in China.
beaucoup d'histoires pour un guitariste qui sait juste un peu jouer ...
not tuners new strings strech stop all talking dry fretboard its not custom usa
Who really cares if the fakes are good? Why support a pirate guitar market? Support legitimate guitar manufacturers instead.
Gibson, the company selling overpriced tributes of what they once were lol
@Notinserviceij then don't buy a Gibson and besides, even if you did that's still better than supporting China with buying their counterfeit guitars.
Still sounds terrible 😮😮😮
Rebuild everything they are really better than gibson. Video by had to do it. $4,500 chibson part one and two
just no
Yep..all modders know this simple fact.You can take any one of these (mainly for the looks lets face it), install the best stainless steel fretwire that exists(jescar),new nut,new high quality tuners, new pickups and electronics....now you have an excellent guitar that has nothing to covet from a "real" one...on the contrary you have better playability due to the SS frets plus the sound with the quality third party sets ll be as good as anything.
The extra advantage is that if that guitar gets a hit or a blemish or a crack you dont even cry about it cause you are not losing much and you can always put the more expensive quality parts to a new clone....
The best of all is that a guitar like that has its own anti theft mechanism built in..its called..."sand off the logo and no one ll care to steal it" device....
Please burn all Chibsons less some unfortunate unknowing soul gets scammed!
Chibsons are fun but not when someone gets scammed. It's pretty easy to spot fakes though.
I'm gonna be that guy who comes on here and says you shouldn't buy these and glorify buying them. You're not helping anybody but organized criminals and frauds in China. I get it. You can't afford a real Gibson. These aren't even as good as Epiphones, especially the newer ones. I get that you buy these things for CZcams content and engagement (congrats, you got mine) but you're not doing the guitar community or industry any good by buying these things.
Chill out nerd. I do own real Gibsons. Yes chibs can be as good as epiphones. Gibson is fine. The guitar industry is fine.
That is awful tone. Why would you buy a low budget guitar and “upgrade” it with extremely low budget pickups? Sorry but GFS is trash. Don’t get me wrong, the guitar is beautiful but it’s the worst tone if heard in a while.
That’s fair. It was the first time I was trying gfs and to be fair they have some okay stuff, but these in the video are not great at all. I didn’t want to spend much money on this guitar. I’ve since found that tonerider are pretty great low cost pickups. And planet tone makes some good stuff too. Since this Chibson I’ve purchased a bunch more
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