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Ill say this; if space marines were real, Ultramarines are one of the few we'd be comfortable having around
I'd hug a Salamander.
@@stratigangames508 idk they are black like coal and their eyes are bright red
thats preety creepy
@@Dimitriterrorman Don't judge a book by its cover.
Let’s see, if we’re going by Legion and not individual Chapters prior to the Heresy.
1. No
3. Hell no. Even without the Slaaneshi connection, they were uptight elitists prior to turning to Chaos
4. No, I do not wish to be more meat in the grinder.
5. Maybe. I do enjoy poetry
6. Depends on if they try to make me drink Fenrisian Ale
7. Maybe
8. Oh Hell to the F*ck NO!
9. So long as they could control their Red Thirst, sure.
10. Eh.
12. No.
13. Sure
14. I like my guts inside and not festering with maggots.
15. Prior to Chaos I think I would enjoy being around them
16. Eh
17. I’m not an Emperor Botherer, so they would shun me as a Heretic
18. Definitely, though I’m sure my spine would shatter upon the very concept
19. Maybe
20. ???
Eh, some Ultramarines, yes. Other's, no. Slamanders would be perfect.
Maturity is when you realized the Ultramarines are pretty based
No🗿
Reject Maturity I say!
Most of them, yeah.
Nah
Sagehood is getting tired of certain established canons.
7:55 as a big Emperor’s Children and Fulgrim fan, referring him to “That fucking twink” is both accurate and hilarious
In a AI-voice generated video somewhere Lion El’Johnson also called Fulgrim a twink
That Heritic only deserves the name, That Fucking Twink
Ive just recently read the fulgrim book. And dang. They are my new favorite traitor legion.
@@Danno_87But he's still a twink 😂
@Danno_87 found it interesting that in the Great Crusade they purposely avoided recruiting Psykers because their instability interfered with their pursuit of perfection.
Ultra marines are cool in their own way, just like the Dark Angels and White Scars.
Its just that they're the most common and face of the company.
And thats for a reason, because they are pretty based
White scars are cool in every way
@@pedropierre9594 That's not the reason, they picked one back at 2nd edition to make the baseline for all chapters, it could've been anyone of the original legions and after that, due to them being the space marine chapter that gets bought the most, then you have the business ideal combo, there is demand for a product why change any of it if it sells? that's the smurfs, but it could've been any other chapter. But due to this, they suffer not just a justified hate, but lore and story wise they also suffer due to GW pushing them into everything and everywhere at the same time for the setting of the universe.
@@Agustin-1991it's a demand almost entirely perpetuated by being the default poster child of 40k to the point where lore began to wank them off especially during the Matt ward era
Just like the flavour of vanilla being the most popular isnt just coincidentally the most advertised and the most stocked especially when its presented as the default flavour
If I Google space marines, it will default to ultramarines
Its supply and demand but when you advertise the supply as almost entirely one thing so new customers are going to demand that one thing then acting as if it's out of your hands is just silly
Calls Blood Angels mid
Calls Ultramarines great
You are on thin line… and I’m with you on the same line
Same. My list goes:
1. Salamanders
2. White Scars
3.Ultramarines
4. Imperial Fists
5. Iron Hands
6. Space Wolves
7. Raven Guard
8. Dark Angels
9. Blood Angels
@@stratigangames508 list is wrong!
@@stratigangames508swap the Iron hands with the blood angels and I’d agree
@@stratigangames508 what kind of crack do you have too snort too put white scars up there
@@cheber817 Because they're cool? Because Jaghatai is a gigachad? Because I enjoy how level headed they are despite their insane way of war?
Ultra marines and gulliman are the reason why i got into 40k and now that im making my ultramarine army you will be qpart of it
Happy to hear that
We march for Maccrage!
Im researching 40k lore as I write this. Ultramarines have been an interest for me since the start. Might be my first army. 😂
Their divergent successor chapters only prove their adaptability due to location and experience. If anything the reason why the iron snakes have a broken down structure is due to them recognising their responsibility of guarding the reef stars logistically and tactically.
A very good point.
One of my favorite fan theories is that the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists "weirdo" chapters are actually all marines descended from the two lost legions that were integrated into the legion during the later half of the great crusade.
The Iron Snakes and Silver Skulls aren't theorized to be descendants of loyalist Iron Warriors who joined the Ultramarines during the Horus Heresy?
@@davidfrancisco3502 Silver Skulls probably, iron snakes not very likely from what I can tell.
@@Sara3346 And don't forget some of the 2nd founding alleged Ultramarine chapters that actually may be descendants of marines from the II & XI legions in the same way the Soul Drinkers were believed to be Imperial Fists descendants despite their gene seed had nothing to do with Rogal Dorn's lineage.
It's because they're written that way🤨🤨🤨🤨
The ultramarines are also really the only chapter that does everything a space marine is supposed to do. They are, by DESIGN, in and out of lore, the example that others have to measure against. Everyone else has a particular focus and/ or weakness drawing away from the space marine core.
They are the material average. They do not really excel or exceed any other legion in anything beyond how ridiculously organized and regimented they are. They value merit over seniority as well.
Dude literally just said they Excell at self-management adaptability and logistical combat warfare. They are the literally ace military men marines.
I heard that during the early days of G-man was reunited with his legion, his momma was also busy making sure the space marine are cleaning their barracks, armors etc etc
Ultramarines may be bland. But if space marines were real in our world you better want them to be like this legion.
Or Salamanders but please no dark angels or flesh tearers
@joshuagraham6933 Salamanders and Ultramarines are the only ones who give a shit about people. So you can't go wrong with either
Blood Angels could be fun too.
Imagine Blood Angels Bob Ross leading a painting class
And the Red Thirst, NO-ONE would be happy and laughing then.
If they actually existed around us, the Ultras may be a little focused and arrogant, but if a Tyranid attacks, they’d have our backs!
The ultramarines also have the advantage of being Roman themed, which is kick ass
And very fitting
Angron's home planet was a roman themed planet too.
@@davidfrancisco3502 yeah but the dark side of the Roman civilization
@@grayfox9869 And ironically actual roman gladiators were mostly free men who became gladiators as a profession. They were like wrestlers of the WWE: it was performative, scripted and it had sponsors.
@@davidfrancisco3502 I forgot about that but It's just because of the kind of roman like planet angron ended up
I appreciate the fact you've organised these in order of legion
I just want to hear him lose his shit over the Alpha legion
9:17 as a Salamander simp I just want everyone to have a seat at the table, Space Marine 1 is one of my favorite games basically ever, Captain Titus is a grade A++ badass, Matt Ward hasn't worked at GW for YEARs now and yeah, Ultra depression is pretty damn funny, I got no problem with Rowboats boys
At the end of the day, guilliman is a bureaucrat. A competent one, and that is what makes him incredibly dangerous.
@Tigran-Abazyan Nothing You said is true
You know what would make this video better? *PUTTING THE ULTRAMARINES CHANT FROM CHAOS GATE AS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC*
I loved the Theoretical and Practical bits from the Ultramarines. Making a formal tradition out of giving your plans and intentions a thorough reality check. Then, when all of the intellectual work is done, wading into battle with dual power fists, punching heads off and caving chests in.
"Do they still have that fucking toilet seat as their insignia?"
-TTS emperor
Yes we do, and I'm keeping it, simply because it has lasted throughout ages and is as recognisable as other 1st founding loyalists
Hey now, go easy on the HammerFuckers! Malleus Fornicus is a hard but fair chapter master who can pound any foe into submission.
Malleus Fornicus has a MASSIVE and GIRTHY chainsword and a boltgun that fires HUGE loads.
Love how in the novel that introduced him, "The Piercing Thrust", Fornicus, with his great Thunderhamner, defeated an Eldar Wraithlord so hard that, after it was dragged off of the battlefield once the Imperials pulled out, the Bonesinger trying to repair it lamented it will take centuries until she can walk again.
I also love how the author managed to make the Wraithlord an entertaining character, as she starts the novel as this arrogant, kinda spiteful woman (like you expect Eldar to be), but, over time, ends it respecting the Hammerfuckers as worthy opponents after Malleus gave her a thorough hammering.
I like the ultramarines for their roman aesthetics as well as their legion designation as the 13th is a reference to the legion Caesar used to conquer Gaul.
The special distinction of the 13th was that they were the legion that Caesar crossed the Rubicon with, more legions were used in the conquest of Gaul.
@@richardbarnshaw5795 the Rubicon
Like the Rubicon Primaris ?
@@nestorgamer9746 the Rubicon was the river that marked the furthest south a Roman general was permitted to march troops in the Italian peninsula. As you can see, GW stays hard on the Greco-Roman themes of the Ultramarines and I'm all for it tbh. Hate when writers abandon a characterisation for no reason over time and I enjoy that each legion has it's own flavour.
What exactly makes them roman themed? They don't exactly look roman or fight like romans. Is it just the logistics that make them similar?
@@psychopunk8817 that and their names and some of the iconography on their armour (e.g. laurel wreaths) it is more technically correct to call them Greco-Roman themed. Their themes are implemented in a similar fashion to most other chapters/legions, small details that when combined change the flavour of the chapter/legion giving them a distinct feel that is separate from the others. Some are not so subtle *cough* Space Wolves *cough*
another great addition to the legion playlist
hydra dominatus
Bro its kinda sus
This is a lie...
@@billysidness5907 i hope so
Indeed, Hydra Dominatus
@Just Vibing we are both alpharius
i feel like a loyalist emperors children would have much in common to the ultramarines, their objective to be perfect at everything would probably leave them at a symilar spot to the ultrtamarines, quite good at most things, maybe with the ocasional outlier thats the best of the best at one thing or two
>tfw the Emperor's Children are traitorous Ultramrines
The reason I like the Ultramarines and Guillimon so much is because they were one of the few factions that truly understood what it took to build and maintain an empire.
The Ultrachadnicus Marinus
"Roboute Guilliman is a mommas boy. And an entitled brat."
-Lion 'El Johnson
It has to be said that Mr. Bones came into 40k after Know No Fear.
It can not be said enough that Abnett personally reworked and redeemed the Ultras and Bobby in that book.
I remember the times before that. I remember the Fall of Damnos where the Necrons handed the Ultras a defeat. It was pretty well written and everybody seemed to like it.
But having the Ultra's lose was something GWS could not allow, so the Ultra's went back and defeated an awakened necron tombworld, because screw you that's why.
Remember that whole joke of Calgar killing necron's with a AA-battery? That is something that happend in that book.
So when Abnett came along and wrote Know No Fear where the Ultra's lost massive amounts of troops in the betrayal at Calth, that was something worth reading.
Truth and facts. A lot of the seething hatred - which I share - is from the dark times when GW would give them the most bullshit wins that totally invalidate mr bones' whole tirade on 'jack of all trades master of none'. Fortunately all is canon but nothing is true so you can tolerate ultramarines if you just pretend those times didn't happen lol
Yeah
I don't care what you say, theres losing and there's being a failure of a so called revered faction of a chapter being known for being the greatest. That's the problem I have with the black legion and possibly the iron hands. I just don't like long string loser heroes in my fiction
I don’t hate the ultramarines, but I don’t like them for 2 reasons.
1: most often they’re kinda bland in their aesthetic. I wish they’d go full throttle into the space Rome look like that Mersaror guy. It’d help them to stand out a bit more.
2: they don’t leave any screentime for any of the cooler, more specialized legions, and the only ones that do get screentime are the blood angels and space wolves.
I just love their OCD about logistics, im an OCD person myself maybe thats why i like them after all
Hmm, yeah I agree.
"Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics."
General Omar Bradley
Ultramarines are also one of the easiest armies to paint, which makes it both easy to raise a large force to battle ready status quickly, but also make them look pretty decent at the same time, even with minimal painting skills.
I think the chapter that can compete ultramarines in terms of common sense and logistics are the raven gaurd successors, raptors.
Proud ultramarines player.
This video is also why I love the Dark Angels. Just swap out Roman aesthetic for knightly aesthetic and go from perfectionist diplomats to arrogant schizios and you have yourself a pretty cool, balanced, powerful legi- I mean CHAPTER. They're a TOTALLY CODEX COMPLIANT CHAPTER, NOTHING TO SEE, MOVE ALONG!
To me it always feels like the Ultramarines claim military to be everything the first legion actually was. And Roboute pretty much shows his jealousy when he meets the Lion in HH. Biggest difference being DA don't give a fuck about perception, Ultras are all about statemenship. The whole Codex Astartes is nothing more than Roboute's vanity project forced down the throat of everybody, while the DA actually definited the basis for SM-warefare in every regard, by doing everything first and paying the blood price.
The ultramarines are what got me into warhammer over 15 years ago, and they are still my favorite chapter. Ive come to love other chapters as well. But the boys in blue will always be my favorite.
Just think - 6-8 years ago, saying this would’ve been ultraheresy lol
I really feel caught off guard by how much I found myself liking Guilliman, as someone who grew up in the “spiritual liege” era
The smurfs had a massive glow up since then - or rather, GW stopped with the most egregious trends they'd been pumping them with
Oh look, it's the FACTS
You have made yourself some DEEPLY autistic enemies
I think it’s funny. Ultramarines have a cool theme, and lots of people who hate on them weren’t even around or in the game when all the hate started, they just hate through osmosis.
I loved this concept "hate through osmosis". Open a new world view.
I started disliking the ultramarines because two white supremacist guys that kept trowing racial slurs on me until I quit the discord sever
It was when I started liking 40k.
It is hard to me know to disassociate White Supremacist from Ultramarine fans, the cyberbulying was hard on me.
@@obrasilius6733 that’s a valid reason ngl. I dislike iron hands for similar reasons
@@cnelson1025 at least now we have black ultramarines, I wish o could see their faces
@@obrasilius6733 lmao, 99% of Warhammer characters are white, but no distinguishable fanbase are white supremacists, and you shouldn't ally white supremacy with a faction either, i'm sure GW would imply that Space Marines have different races between them today, specially the Salamanders.
Salamanders are my favorite, but I do love me the Ultramarines, I have a fondness for generalists in gaming and stories.
This is why i am subbed to you. You take the piss on all those fans that look at 40k through memes and make them fuming when you defend something that anyone without a cool head and grounded look cant understand.
"Bendable enough to adapt to situations"
Meanwhile: "STOP, THE CODEX ASTARTES DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS ACTION"
When I first got into Warhammer in 2020, the fist mini I painted was an assault intersessor as an Ultramarine due to lack of knowledge of other legions and only having the starter paint set. I didn’t realize at the time how much people loved to hate on them. It kind of made me double down on loving them.
Same. The amount of people who have tried to make me hate them has only made me cling to them harder and love them more.
That's the same reason I chose them as my first force as well. Except I did it in the middle of the matt ward era 😆. Nothing wrong with a dependable workhorse in and out of lore.
The lorgar comment had me bursting out laughing
I loved that gas station bit. If you like 40k and live somewhere like nova scotia you just have to chuckle at that
Love it! HH Know No Fear is my favourite book. I’m a Flesh Tearer by nature, but I do love the boys in blue. If I had more patience, I’d play them.
Ah yes, the Hammerfuckers. Iron Hands successor chapter, I believe.
Damn, I wish they would be canon.
Lol
Did my ass just get womp womped at the end of the video, or is my hearing going?
;)
I'm astonished that you've talked about the Ultramarines and their perception in the fandom without mentioning Matt Ward even once.
There is a reason they are the poster child of 40k
Since (so far) I'm only a hobbyist, and since I'm still very inexperienced with the hobby, ultramarines are my main army since what got me into warhammer in the first place was my local games shop, which let people play video games for like 10$ an hour hence why my parents brought young me there in the first place, got a giant cutout of an ultramarine when 8th edition came out which was on display right in front of the small staircase right as you walked in. seeing this gigantic space marine that looked both futuristic yet ancient at the same time for like two years is what made me a fan. getting my first "start painting" set made me realize that this hobby was for me, and when looking into the lore further I did genuinely like what the ultramarines were all about. learning about the fandom's general attitude towards ultras did make me a bit sad at first since I was new, but now I don''t care anymore, and I've even come to like the "their Primarch's name is Rodent Guillotine" memes. plus, it does help that I'm a basic bitch who almost always likes the default options the most, or at least a slightly cooler looking version of the default option (hell my character in dark souls 3 is almost always just some normal knight looking bitch, and in Doom Eternal I almost always use the the default slayer suit.)
Ultra Marines are Vanilla Space Marines. Some days vanilla is what you want, I get it.
Bones the type of dude to drive over in his Honda Civic, take off his white Air Force Ones, and pick Mario in Mario Kart.
I like them. 40k at its best is a story about raging against the dying of the light if you ask me. (Rylanor's last stand anyone?) And most of the Ultramarine stories I have read are a lot like that. Hell thats what Ultramar kind of is. As you mentioned characters like Ventrus have virtues they stand for even in a setting where everything seems to keep getting worse. Duty seems to be the word of the day for them.
Besides there a realistic depiction of what you would want a super soldier to be like. Above good at war they seem to be just good citizens.
I still want to flay them alive but I like them a little.
Doesn’t Papa Smurf need to stay in his armo(u)r at all times, and that he will die if he takes it off?
If so, then he is essentially a dreadnought primarch.
I think, he can take it of for short times. But I'm not sure.
@@herrschwarzherz3834 yea he's training himself to stay out of it for longer and longer periods of time.
And it has nothing to do whatsoever with his definitely not eldar waifu.😅
i didn't know that, why does this happen?
i know sanguinius took his armour a lot of the times.
@@sanguinius3938 Guilliman was placed in stasis for 10,000 years after being stabbed by Fulgrim’s poisoned blade, which would have killed him otherwise. Belisarius Cawl and Yvraine worked together to fit Guilliman with his armor at the time of the 13th Black Crusade. This helped bring Guilliman out of stasis, since the armor functions as something of a life-support system to keep Fulgrim’s venom at bay.
Ultramarine's are bros, but Dark Angels are heroes.
they look dope specially that guy with the halo looking thing and flaming sword if there suits were black and grey that would be even better
I’ll admit that the Ultramarines are probably one of the most competent chapters in the setting because few other people know how logistics work. HOWEVER, they aren’t my favorite because they feel just a bit too…milk toast to me. Plus they suffer from the “Posterboy effect” in my eyes, where through being the main face of the setting, the faction/character in question becomes over represented and just feel less interesting to those who dig deeper. If I were to pick a loyalist legion to be my favorite, it’d probably be the Imperial Fists because the paint job and tactics are closer my preferences rather than anything else.
I like the story they have going behind the dudes with the red helmets but that's about all I can think of in terms of things that feel creative about them barring pappa G himself of course who is still cool.
it should be mentioned that Guilliman had something that none of the other primarchs did, he had a mom! that's why he's the most well adjusted of all of them
I like them because of the versatility in the tabletop: a lot of miniatures leads to a lot of types of armies you can make
I really do like the idea of warriors who are dominant because of logistics. Such an enormous part of war that fiction seems intent on ignoring for the most part. If the 20 legions were real, it would likely be the one which focused on stuff like logistics who end up as a powerhouse.
Glory to Mcragge and Ultramar
The ultrasmurfs gets shit done
i would say the Ultramarines biggest plus is the flexibility of troops and administration. when a problem comes up the Ultramarines are almost certain to lose when you use a specialty fighting style against them but the second fight you will only just get away with your life and for the third not even the god emperor himself can save you. they are the quickest to learn from mistakes of all the legions/chapters. when they have a foot in the door for all aspects of war its not hard to open it further depending on the situation.
Listening to someone talk about the best legion while I sit here and paint the best legion. Life’s good
I also don't understand what's so funny about his name but I nonetheless enjoy the fact that he is basically the Beanibag Cabbagepatch of 40k
It's just kinda long and tricky to say and spell, so it's easy to misspell or pronounce, so people just tend to intentionally misspell/say it wrong for the meme of it.
There is an Ultramar gas station near me, it takes all of my willpower to not add a second head to their golden eagle logo and the white "not omega" on the sign. Also now I kinda want to make up an army of UM successors called the "Hammer Fuckers"
They are about equal to me, with the Blood Angels. Just a big, flat meh. Though slightly below, because they are the poster boys. They are the ham and cheese sandwich of the setting. No mayo, just ham and cheese. I actually find a lot of their successor chapters more interesting. Mostly because they either zig where regular Ultramarines zag... Or just straight up eat people.
i was there when the matt ward warded all over the lore and it was not a nice time :( kinda hard to shake that off i have to admit - dark imperium books were fun though, Girlyman is very likable
Courage and honor battle brother! Boys study battles, men study logistics.
ALPHA LEGION SUPREMACY
I have struggled with which chapter to paint for 13 years. I started with ultramarines, then crimson fists, then black templars, then aurora chapter, then blood ravens, then blood angels. I should've just kept my ultramarines. I think I'll go back to them, thanks to you.
What made me turn my opinion to liking the Smurfs is through their primarch. Was two things about him. First being his upbringing and how much of a momma’s boy he is. The second being how he feels he failed in parts of his life. He felt he had failed to save his father, to save Big E, and he feels he failed the people of the empire.
I love Ultramarines, it isn't a popular stance from the perspective of many Xenos mains since the represent the poster boys of the Space Marines... Which themselves are the poster boys of 40k as a whole. But they are rational beacons of sanity in an irrational and insane universe.
The Iron IV disagrees.
I like Ultramarines the most, because they're the only legion / chapter that is actual, coherent military unit, not wet dream of 14yo metalhead.
I heard a rumor that Matt Ward was originally writing what was going to become an Ultramarine codex, and the project later got changed to being the generic Space Marine codex when it was nearly complete.
And thus began both the wanking of, and the hating of our lovable smurfs.
The more i learn about the ultra marines the more i love them. LIKE THE GENESIS CHAPTER! Literally the first successor chapter ever. And they fanboy over the ultramarines and try to live up to that ego inflated uber-knightly and chivelrous battle brother ideology they and the greater imperium thought them to be.
they also are basically just auxilliary troops for the Ultramarines. like they take from Genesis Chapter constantly to refill supplies. I can just imagine a going away party for each one while the Ultramarines are staring at their watches waiting to take their new unit into a necessary battle!
“He hates religion. He hates myths….”
That is beyond all levels of Based imo 😎
This reminds me that I need more blue paint.
Salamanders and ultramarines gotta be my favorite genetic war machines
As someone who remembers the Ultras from 2nd edition and even collected them it's weird to seem them go through cycles of being the most "normal" and being the "super, best, mega" marines. Uriel Ventris is a Bro though. I'm still a loyal son of The Lion though.
I am very much enjoying your content. Your humor has me chuckling and i dont get most of the jokes yet as I am new to 40k. Was thinking of starting with Orks simply because they look fun, and there doesnt appear to be a limit to them dieing off. As you said in your orks video they arent an invasion so much as an infestation.
Fun fact when robot girly man woke up from being comatose. A khorne berserker tried to kill him. Jumping in the air yelling leroy jenkins. Robute grabbed him mid air and crushed his skull.
Ngl the ultramarines alone got me into Warhammer
I didn't think much of the Ultramarines until i read 'know no fear' and now i love them
Good points all around, unfortunately, I have a 2 word argument. Hydra Dominatus
One of my favorite Ultramarines moments is in Dark Imperium when Calgar takes the 1st Company to handle a minor rebellion on Macragge. He does this because yes it’s overkill and that’s the point, to send a message that any attempt to subvert Macragge will be met with overwhelming violence. What isn’t well reflected about them on the tabletop is that Guilliman trained them to be good citizens first and warriors second and they deal with problems through a lense of diplomacy and sending a message instead of “raaaah kill them all”. Calgar even makes a point to capture and spare the youths who rebelled because they only have good intentions at heart. If you want to get a good idea of who the Ultramarines and Guilliman really are I’d highly recommend Dark Imperium and the way Ultramar is governed there.
The thing is, that the Ultramarine nature as being noble knights and efficient legionaries, makes them in my eyes very appealing. Also their noble and shiny aesthetic is something that I like as well. And they are bood boys. Not as kind as Salamanders, but still good.
this is exactly why i love the ultramarines.. they are soldiers... thats it, and thats why i like them.
they struggle DEEPLY with the morals of combat and especially the normal humans, like their own auxila and guard in general.. they dont let it bother them as much as sallys but they are in general just normal people brought up to be demi gods and that is EXACTLY why i like them...
third Co. gang wya? gang gang
They really sell the idea of being a "Space Marine" to me. Idk why they just really seem like they are great for that role.
Matt Ward is very proud of you Mr.Bones, Thank you so much.
Ward, along with a certain other writer might just be the worst calamity that ever happened to the W40k galaxy. But I wouldn't blame the Ultramarines for that, they have been his victims just as we've been.
You. I love you.
And I love the Ultra Marines and Roboute Guilliman. I've only been in the 40k world for a good half of a year now, and ive already gotten annoyed with how people seem to just want to ignorant to the Ultramarine improvements.
Also, you not making fun of Guilliman's name? THANK FUCK. Its a breath of fresh air bro. I think his name is normal. It's easy to say and I don't get why people dog on both him and his legion.
(I get it. They had bad writing in the past. But we're past that now, so why don't people grow? 😭)
You sir, you're great. Keep up your amazing work. I love your laid back style, and how you nerd out. Makes me wanna rant too! (And talk about all my OC's I've made for Warhammer 40k.) But I barely have any friends that are into this like me. I really hyperfixate on it haha.
It’s true. Virtually every high level military mastermind places logistics at the pinnacle of military tactical prowess.
Arthur you spit with this one. I would def collect ultramarines if they weren’t the poster boys.
To me the fact that the Ultramarines are so great make sense because they practice tactics and make sure to have a diverse skill set. Logistics and administration are what make empires, and I would prefer to have a smart but simple chapter tether than a grimderp chapter like the flesh tearers who by all account should have been censured or fallen to khorne.
The one thing that I can see people having an issue with is the codex, which tbf it’s over 10,000 years old at this point and probably shouldn’t be as revered by the smurfs considering the ultramarines are known for adapting rather than being extremely dogmatic, but it’s still a pretty good tactical book.
Sure the codex limiting space marines to 1000 marines may seem a bit short sighted but after the Horus Heresy the idea of having legions still around was seen absolutely stupid and rightfully so considering the destruction caused by the traitors.
The Matt ward era is gone guys. It’s time to recognize that the ultrasmirfs are pretty decent.
Also, aiI am a hundreds percent sure that half the ultramarine haters haven’t even read a single bit of their books or lore.
I can't look at the Ultramarines and not hear TTS' voice for Cato Sicarius so I struggle to take them seriously.
Just got into WH40k with the Recruit Edition. Will now paint my Space Marines as ultramarines.
I love the Uriel Ventris model, but the fact we don’t have a Veteran Sergeant Possanius model, the actual hero of the Uriel Ventris books, is a damn shame. I want my nearly primarch sized ultramarine with a heavy flamer running around with Uriel
Ultramarines are cool as hell but it’s just that there’s so many of them on tabletop I couldn’t bring myself to do them.
“Can bench 3 plates” oh god, Arthurs a Dyel… a space marine could easily press that 1 handed my guy.. they’d be pressing in the thousands, especially in armor?? Good lord. We already got normal people with slings benching over a thousand and raw at almost 800
Best way to put it. Dark angels win battles. Ultramarines win wars
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Ventris is the "greatest" spacemarine. Not because he is the best at fighting, skills or anything like that. He embodies what the pretectors of humanity are meant to be. Resilient, honourable, brave, loyal and selfless. The boys in blue are the heroes the galaxy needs.