Jaap Stam On Leaving United, Losing In Istanbul & Ten Hag | Stick to Football EP 10
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- On our latest episode of Stick to Football, brought to you by Sky Bet, we are joined by footballing legend Jaap Stam.
Gary and Roy’s former Manchester United team-mate talks about how the move to Old Trafford came about after establishing himself in the Netherlands.
Once the world’s most expensive defender, Stam chats about the highs of winning the Treble with the Red Devils and reveals all on his infamous exit.
The former Dutch international also talks about AC Milan’s Champions League final defeat to Jamie Carragher’s Liverpool, telling us what really happened in Carlo Ancelotti’s dressing room at half-time as they were 3-0 up.
Stam also talks about the life of a football coach and gives his opinions on current Manchester United manager and compatriot Erik ten Hag.
Finally, we end the show with a massive question around the table: Who is the dream Premier League centre-back partnership?
If you liked the episode don't forget to let us know in the comments and if you want to listen only you can catch Stick to Football on all major podcast platforms.
Chaptering
00:00 Behind The Scenes
04:45 Introduction
05:40 Jaap’s move to Manchester United
08:00 Manchester United debut
10:21 Culture change
15:42 Winning the Treble
21:01 Leaving Old Trafford
29:30 Moving back to Italy
31:14 Istanbul: Champions League defeat to Liverpool
35:48 Post career / media work
36:52 On coaching
45:14 Jaap on Erik ten Hag
55:18 Best centre backs in Premier League history
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honestly no matter what club you support seeing these legends of the game just talk about football is the best thing on youtube by a mile
And Carragher
I bet its even better if you're a united fan and then you remember what you have in your first 11 now lmao
I agree as a neutral this is great stuff.
I liked Ronnie being on here but when it's a top former player there's an extra special dynamic
@@jak.lisbonbore off
As long as they stick to the football and leave out all the frivolity rubbish
Stam,Cafu,Nesta and Maldini was one of the best defensive line ups ever!
The best
@@Randomuser512baresi, costacurta, tasotti and Maldini top it
@@T3akkeydhdno they don’t lmfao
Nah Calabria,Kalulu,Thiaw,Florenzi is the best
@@T3akkeydhd its also a heavy contender
The amount of respect that Roy Keane has for Jaap should say it all. Very rare to see Roy give so much respect to another player. A true professional and a great defender. Also, clearly a very thoughtful player and manager.
Probably likes him even more due to the circumstances of him leaving the club.
Just wait until they get Irwin on there
Wait till they bring Vinnie in.
@@joeh5315Why would he respect Vinnie? Better footballer than some give him credit for, but not on Keane’s level
@@westington1 Roy didn’t dare try any of his sneaky dirty challenges on that Wimbledon team, too frightened to. Nor did he react when Vinny did that lunging head butt off the floor on Keane. Different levels of respect
Warms my heart seeing Roy singing the Stam chant, it just goes to show how much he valued the Dutchman and that he'd listen to the fans and enjoy their chants and shows he's got a fun side😂
Got a lump in my throat watching this 😢😭
@@AbuSayadsee a doctor mate
@@Faisal-vt7vwyes mate. See a mathematician about those numbers lad 🤷🏽♂️
@@AbuSayad since a clever lad like u recommends I will
Good good - now have a nice life moiyt 🎉🎉🎉
Gary and Keano singing "Yip Jaap Stam" in front of Jaap Stam is just lovely :)
Memories for sure
I have never seen Roy Keane so excited just for another guest on the show
Jaap and Ronnie a few weeks ago
Fr ❤
Wait until Denis Irwin comes on
@@fergusoconnor9051 yeah Keano's gonna need a change of pants when Denis has a guest slot here 🤣
Relates to his acrimonious departure from United
Roy Keane is coming out of his shell and I’m so here for it. What a personality!
Just doing his job.
when he's a pundit he's dead serious because, as he says, that's his job. In a setting like this there's no need for super professionalism. good to see his laid back side.
Calm down, luv
Even as a liverpool fan this episode was brilliant. Love the chemistry between Ian Wright,Keane, Neville and carragher. Jaap stam as well is a legend. So informative this episode. Class
You're not a teenage schoolboy anymore, its ok to enjoy the opposition or Messi and Ronaldo at the same time..
Grow up.
is it just me or is Carragher just really unable to give anyone their due credit? The twit excluded Stam from a CB pairing he had to be in 🤣🤣
One of the greatest CBs the PL has seen, monster of a defender, imagine having Schmeichel in net, Stam in defence then Keane in midfield 😂
Imagine having Onana the banana in goal 😂
Without a doubt! He's on mount rushmore with Terry & Vidic
United pay to win just like City today. Rarely talked about
@@bonjour7174 except United fail because there a looser club
@@bonjour7174name me a team that's won without spending.
Difference is United came back up through rebuilding the whole structure from youth set up to 1st team, started winning regularly then the big money came.
They didn't sit around relegation spots waiting for a sheikh to come
That chant in the end by Gary and Roy is pure class. Shows how much Jaap was valued and the respect he has earned.
Edit: “demands” removed. Thanks guys for correcting me. #ggmu
absolutley
The respect he earned
It's never demanded
Just shows how incredibly complex successful managment is.
Pity Ferguson didn’t feel the same
The enthusiasm in Roy's voice for that song is the best thing. You wouldn't think he'd have paid much attention to that type of thing
Gutted when Stam left United, but I did get to see him play at the San Siro for Milan and he was immense. He won every aerial challenge that came his way, just incredible.
I love how authentic this show is!! Love the banter before the show starts and even the bit where wrighty goes to the toilet. Just a genuinely brilliant bunch of guys having great conversations
It's the best football talk show on the planet. No journalists or made-up TV guys.
As a centre half growing up this was an incredible insight. Jaap was a colossal defender
Amen to that!
Speaking of centre-halves, can't believe no-one mentioned Ricardo Carvalho..
O b 😊😊kui😅😅😮😊😮 Kmk
totally agreed. he was a beast in his playing days...
Anelka had him treading water
@@ryanhudson2650In 1 pre season game after he just joined United and needed time to adjust english footbal, Lol.
Whoever idea it was to include the interaction before the show starts is a genius! Great call, great show 👏 👍
Roy Keane's ability to hold a grudge is legendary. He still feels it as raw as if it were yeserday whereas big Jaap seems to have left it in the past😂
I remember when Jaap joined United. What a beast of a defender. He was at his peak too. Love this episode!
Was gut wrenching when I heard Jaap was gone.... and I have to say it wasn't until we got Vidic that I felt we had a worthy hard man to replace him. But to this day, from supporting Utd from the 70's, Jaap is still one of my favourite all time players that embodied power, respect, professionalism and hard as nails.
I felt like a family member had died.
And we still haven’t replaced Vidic
@@Al_o_bri It's embarrassing saying Stam, Vidic and Maguire in the same sentence!
@@leagreenall5972 martinez hasn't got the height but he definitely has the bite, leadership and mentality to be compared to stam and vidic though. Hopefully he can come back from injury and continue to be a great defender for united, just need to find him his johnsen or ferdinand
Vidic was no where near as good as Stam. Stam was world class Vidic was overrated
Good to hear Ronnie Johnsen get the credit he deserves. Always thought he was criminally underrated.
MUTV showed the 1997 game against Juve a couple of weeks ago. I forgot Ronnie played holding midfielder in that game against Zidane and Deschamps and completely shut them down. Phil Neville came on beside him for the whole of the second half as well 😂
Hugely versatile player.
I always find Van Dijk is overrated when great defenders are being spoke about especially if there is a scouser around. Great defender but Kompany > Van Dijk and ill die on that hill.
@@jwr3289I always find Vidic criminally overrated. Average at best.
@@ricardosd12Vidic is still the only defender to have won PFA player of the year twice. Few attackers have won it that many times. Calling him overrated is a joke.
Love Jaap, the best CB to play in the premier league. Made me smile when he mentioned Ronnie Johnsen a vastly underrated footballer
I cannot express how grateful I am that this show exists. With the way football stands in 2023, the tone, calibre of talent and talking points are right on the money. What made football so great and what we hope it gets back to is sat around that table for me. Great show fellas!
If you think the talent in football today is the bees knees, then you wasn't alive in the 1990s when elite giants roamed the game. Don't give me ya Bellingham, Saka and Kane sh*t. Legends like Matthaus, Romario and Shearer would eat and spit out football today.
What a life these guys have. Hanging out together continually, having a laugh, no financial worries, set for life. No wonder they exude so much positive, happy energy all the time.
everyone has problems, just different problems, its called life
Discipline can give freedom
@@adamlear4803 also helps if you’re very naturally gifted at footie
Exactly,
Such a great life,
They still find time to complain, whinge and moan don’t worry 😂
This is the best football podcast there is. Hope it never stops
If this was 3 hours long, I'd still be hooked in. It's got it all . Brilliant 👏
Totally agree
What a fantastic player japp was and what a lovely, gentle, relaxed guy he is today. Such a contrast to how he played the game. Really great show once more, and it's such a joy to see these old legends of the game come on the show. Thank you, Gary, and to everyone at the overlap for putting this show together, it's just fantastic.
That's what I like from Dutch people... stright, structured speech, and HONEST
（Unlike snakelike Ten Hag）
apart from ten hag. definitely not honest
@@steve13191 Of course
@@steve13191he was honest about sancho and everyone cried about it and went at him for it so he can’t come out and say what he wants as he can’t win either way with people like you van gal wasn’t great either
@@steve13191 what did he do that was not honest?
Gary has nailed it with this he’s got the perfect mix of knowledge,experience and sense of humour with the crew and the relaxed feel of the show it’s great 👍
Loved Staam, he come across as an absolute terrifying warrior on the pitch but a well-spoken lad off it. His rampaging forward runs were a sight to behold.
My biggest memory is when he was playing for in the euro2000 and had a cut to his eyebrow, and he received stitches on the sideline without even flinching and hopped back on right after.
Nesta and Stam were the perfect duo. Both master in their own ways. Tbf, he was very good with the ball on his feet, he played sometimes right back for Milan and performed really well at 33-34 years old. One my fav's center back, and in my opinion much better and more complete than Rio and Vidic.
Forza Milan.
Haha I thought that was common knowledge?
Love the behind-the-scenes stuff at the start of the episode. Stam was a beast in his prime, can see how much Roy and Gary respect him.
I could’ve watched a whole
hour of the lads just bantering at the start
Came to the comments to find this one. I love watching them just sitting about having a laugh.
Ronnie Johnsen is one of the most underrated players in Premier League history. Kind of a forgotten man of our treble winning team but he gets kudos from all his ex teammates even at Stams level.
I couldn't agree more, he was the best defender united had and great on the ball
i agree.unsung hero.
I always say Ronny Johnsen is the most underrated defender of the premier league era
MUTV replayed the 1997 UCL game against Juve recently. Ronny played DM against Zidane and Deschamps and absolutely bossed it.
Also henning berg. Underrated defenders to win the treble
There's such a calmness but preciseness to the way Stam speaks his thoughts. Especially when he talks about the finer details when he analyses players in this video.
Those last few seconds where Gary and Roy start singing were so wholesome ❤❤ absolutely incredible. Jaap, best defender premiere league has seen. Came, won 3 consecutive titles, left. Legend!!!
Jaap was a beast. He should never have been let go. He was a monster for Milan years later
If Neville can get Roy and Sir Alex in a room together on the overlap it would break the internet!
Never happen tho. 2 alphas in one room
More chance of Eddie Hearn arranging that one 🥊
Box office. Every football fan in the country and abroad would watch it. Alas won't happen to risky Keane would lose his temper and Sir Alex would swear through the alphabet
No chance
Word 😂
I love this series. Another superb watch with a wonderful insight into all things football with a legend. Desperately wish we still had him at the back.
The behind the scenes craic and banter is giving me life. Keep it coming! Seeing them be themselves is brilliant
He was brilliant for us at Milan. Verrrrrry well remembered, despite his short time with us
He still should have been with us 😡 😂 he was class mate.
True football people are not the same as the club only people.
100% Stam was phenomenal.
You could tell Roy has tremendous respect for Jaap
Yes definitely
I loved his years at United. I remember coming back a couple of years back for a legends game -he was still a monster, playing as if it was a cup final. Gotta love it. Miss the attitude and physicality -no nonsense player. United certainly needs some of those today.
Love this Overlap podcasts. Legends of the sport coming over to talk about their careers and views. Amazing
What an immense defender during his time. Faced the best strikers in the late 90s and early 2000s. Football used to be awesome back then.
Yup, players were dope. And that's not just nostalgia or bias. But today its much more tactical and players are much fitter.
💯 think of how many world class players we had in those eras compared to now. Multiple in every position back then
@@peasnburley7496 Not only the players but so many more good teams. The Premier League is stronger now but the rest of European leagues are much weaker. Also i wonder if players used to be better then. Kids born after late 90s are all raised with gameconsoles. Kids before played more football outside.
Big reason we won the league in 2001/2002 because Fergie sold him
An Arsenal fan here!
Stam was a beast at the back.
Every game was a final for him. He puts in 100% week in, week out.
I followed Jaap Stam since his begin with the lower clubs in the Dutch League. You could see directly that he will reach the top.
Best centre half I’ve seen in the premier league. He had everything!
As a United fan I was heartbroken when they sold Jaap Stam. I couldn't believe it!
hold my hand up i was to loved jaap the iceman
What a defender big Jaap was, scared the shite outta forwards...and always nice to hear Ronny Johnson get talked about. Guy rarely gets mentioned but he was class.
Yep so right
Genuinely love this CZcams channel, no matter what club you support it's great listening to the guys talk about football
Loved him at Reading, what he did under very difficult circumstances. Legend of the game and its wonderful to sit and listen to these conversations.
Outstanding player. Was great having him at Milan. Hard to beat a back four of Maldini, Nesta, Stam and Cafu.
A Mount Rushmore of defenders.
Pure filth that
@@larrysellers7891 Milan could desperately do with that sort of quality now
Shame their combined age was about 452 by then
Back when football was football, good old days
The Overlap smashing it 💥
This should be fun!
Yip Jaap Stam 🙂
This is just world class, and it's getting even better each new episode. Cheers all :)
The overlap is the best thing happening to football in the last few years. Greetings from holland!
As sir Alex said years later, one of his biggest mistakes was to let Jaap Stam go.. what a player, what a defender but above all what a character..
Ferguson is weirdo - he does some stupid things.
@@dobianuli2742he wanted complete control. A player questions him he was gone
@@itsmeprasad1987 jaap didn’t question him though.
@@dobianuli2742 but he wasnt one to just take it and shut up, hence writing a book. A player with his own voice is too much for Fergie to handle
Imagine Stam and Rio if he had stayed a couple more seasons 🔥🔥
Loved the behind the scenes introduction, great chemistry and guests!
You could listen to them lot all day !! One of the best episodes up to yet !👏🏽👏🏽
I love how natural this show is. It’s fantastic. Keep it going!
When he just casually rolled off the tongue "nesta, maldini, cafu..." i did that "phooof" noise, i knew he played in that great AC team but to hear those names, to be in a back four, that back four, probably the greatest back four of all time, each legit world world class defenders, all 4 would go in my top 10 of all time. Imagine being able to look back on your career being able to say you played with those giants of the game. Damn.
And Gary Neville 😂
And that was just the defence. Think about the midfield and attack: Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko, Inzaghi. Apart from Dida, every player in that XI was not only an elite player, but an actual legend of the game. Incredible. It just illustrates again why it's called The Miracle Of Istanbul.
But on a side note, as legendary as that Milan side were, they had developed a bad habit of collapsing in the CL. They did it the previous year vs Deportivo, they did it in the semi vs PSV and of course most famously in the final. Strange with all the experience they had, but then again maybe that gives a clue. Perhaps they were running out of legs and in certain games they just collapsed physically for certain periods of the game? Or was it just purely mental i.e. a leadership or concentration issue? Or both? It's very strange looking back on it.
@@brianohalloran4059 Maybe due to their age? Most were over 30. Not a lot of legs left at that mark.
What an episode, Jaap Stam… What a Legend!!!
Brilliant, enjoyable! Stam was a quality defender, and this insight with such a good group of pro’s, well, I could of watched another hour of it. Love the group and the laid back approach to these chats
What a gent Jaap is great to see him get comfortable and start showing his personality. Brilliant player and bloke.
Jaap Stam is one of the greatest defender I can remember 🐐
Absolute legend Jaap Stam. My favourite united defender of all time without a doubt. And such a unique POV to have been on either side of the two greatest Champions League final comebacks of all time. Incredible player
Seeing the setup for each episode is great
Wow how lucky we are to see and watch legends like this. Hopefully the next generation will continue shows like this
Fair play, yet another superb episode. Think it’s fair to say this is the best football content being produced at the moment. Excellent insight and another cracking guest!
Fair Play mate 👏
This is the first podcast I watch from start to finish. As a Liverpool fan I find it fascinating to see how Yap found it difficult. As a fan I didn't notice it. United had a great team back then. Keep this format
Brilliant as always, absolutely love these stick to football videos, jaap stam what a superb player this man was, so so wrong to let him go,just pure quality.
I could watch 10 of these podcasts with this exact panel. Just brilliant!!!
Never seen a better 3 year period for a CB than Stam. Arguably the best CD to have played in the EPL. Doesn’t hVe the longevity but bloody hell he was a star.
For me vidic just beats him for the best defender ever
@@paulleech6797no way
he had longevity, just not at united
I'd still say vidic was better then stam and I actually liked the way he played also
@@paulleech6797 Vidic was not a better defender than Stam. Stam was the best centre-back in the world for a couple of seasons when the quality of defenders in Europe was arguably the best it had ever been.
Great stories from behind the scenes of professional footballers. Stam talking about early times at United was very interesting. Everytime I watch these they bring up old names of great players, Ronnie Johnson mentioned several times here and what an excellent player. The quality of squad United had back then was outstanding.
The best overlap so far from the ones ive seen. The guy is as direct and cultured with his opinions as he was with his defending, what a player. Insanity that we ever let him leave United in the first place, especially when one considers what he went on to do in Italy. Looking at him sitting next to Roy, his former captain and defensive shield helps exemplify the sheer extent of how far Man Utd have fallen. The best teams have a spine made of steel but also with geniune world class ability. What we currently have is a bunch of pretenders, bluffers.
I love it! These lads talking about football! I love these historical memories, I remember most of them quite vividly! Great video!
Watching the first 5 minutes of this is like sitting around with your mates having a laugh. It's honestly great.
Might be my favourite episode yet, mad being a Liverpool fan growing up hating these three United players and now absolutely fascinated weekly by the chats they have. Absolutely brilliant
Same here 😂
It's almost like they're people
one of the hardest guys in football with and intellect of that level , absolutely love this guy
One of the greatest defenders I've ever seen. His physicality is often more entertaining that the match itself. 😂
Him vs Big Dunc' was a sight to behold, haha!
Absolutely loved this episode. To see the mutual respect and to hear real stories from charismatic legends is the best thing on TV.
I love Ian Wright. Picking Tony Adams was loyal, and spot on. Adams was a tremendous captain, and one of the best central defenders ever. And Wright was a fantastic player, legend, not only to Arsenal, but to English football.
This was amazing thanks! Jaap Stam is a legend and a true gent too!
I love this show. I only started watching it a couple of weeks ago and it’s a joy.
I suffer from mental health problems at the moment and these lot help me get through the day
Good man.
Stay strong mate! All the best.
@@Superstar_tradesman1 Thank you fella. Appreciated
Stay strong my friend
@@skguy7 Thank you
"If you ever see me in the gym, you know i'm lost."
God damnit Roy 😂
Just want to say I love the show lads and lasses, and it's free to watch on here so thank you guys. Happy New Year
This might be the best episode so far. Keep up the great work!
Loved watching Jaap, my type of centre back.
I'm a United fan and I understand how it's probably easier to call an old team mate for Gary and Roy, but I hope we get to see a wide variety of players. I really enjoyed the Eddie Hearn and Ronnie O'Sullivan episodes as well.
Roy Keane singing the jaap Stam song is the highlight of the series 😂
Top top player jaap was though
This is like therapy for the panelist’s! Great to hear the real Jason talk. Him, Henning and Ronny were my favourite defenders for United
Great show as ever. Must see telly on a Wednesday night.
Looking forward to the next one 👍👍
Seeing these 3 Utd players to the current crop, kills me as a Utd fan. Absolute winners and great winner mentalities.
Jokes aside, after watching last night, it must hurt! The standards have dropped so far and the future doesn't look bright. I have been there. ( liverpool fan)
Compare to Rashford, Martial and Sancho.
It gets harder to accept
As mentioned in the thread- back then you had Schmeichel, Stam & Keano before a shot on goal. Today we have Onana, Maguire & McTominay. Grim!!!
@@101cheekie agreed. Hard to accept our rivals are smashing it and we're nowhere near. We just haven't got the characters and leaders like a Keane or Stam, this generation are mentally weak.
They ruined my childhood. How great that Arsenal team was and we only won 3 EPL because of that beastly United team 😂
The Neville Keane chant at the start is legendary 😂
Garlic bread
@@raasputinfor free??
@@AlexSouster garlic?? Garlic and bread??
9:33 15:22
Keano always so damn funny with small lil things like this.
59:35 the Stam chant at the end was great too. Even Keano joined in 😂
Absolutely love this show. Longform football chats with legends
Honestly the best discussion show on the planet. The rapport between these guys is unmatched and Stam was a great guest to listen to especially if you lived through that 90s/00s premier league era.
Gary Neville is a absolute legend. Let’s get it right here. And smashing it with everything he’s doing now, Love this kid.
Spurs fan. I'm actually a fan of the weird angry manc now. Was also quality on the pitch. In future, I bet he goes back into management.
My favorite show, must watch weekly. Excited for more to come. Loved this one as a United fan.
Lots of insight shared, lots of laughs and good stories, enjoyed it and good to see how everyone in the panel enjoyed it!
Thanx. 😊
Didn’t know Jaap sounded like that. Also how funny he is. I just remember him being a silent brutal defender. What a legend
Gary can get a lot of criticism, but bringing this bunch together and the guests he gets is world class
Cant think of anything on CZcams I look forward to more
Two memories about Stam. One was in a United game against inter one of their strikers, Chilean but I forget his name, tried to barge him out of the way and it looked like he’d just run into a brick wall. Stam didn’t even it had happened, like a fly flying into a window pane. The other was at a game for Holland were Stam got a cut above his eye that was gushing blood, he just casually walked to the sidelines and had it stitched up and five minutes later was playing again. Camera man kept cutting back to Stam with a needle going in and out of his face, I couldn’t even watch it but he just sat there with no expression like he didn’t feel a thing. Hard as nails.
Ivan Zamorano! Remember the incredible save Schmeichel made against him from point blank range?
@@bowlingaz yeah that was him ran straight into Stam and crumpled like a crisp packet 🤣
Fantastic as always lads, keeping it real for us in the crowd.........
How this guy is not an Icon in Fifa/EA FC is a crime. He would be one of the most coveted CBs in the game.