SpEd teacher here. People hear Special Education and they think LOW intelligence and lots of Life Skills. 9 out of 10 times it is reading difficulties or attention difficulties that got them to me. Our jobs are almost identical. Same shirts, different patterns ❤
My son was labeled gifted in elementary school. He was very smart and motivated, until High School. There, he was not "living up to his potential" academically. He did what he had to do to pass and graduate and go to college, though it took him 6 years to graduate college, with a year break. His true passion was music, from the age of 3, and he excelled in 2 bands in High School and formed his own classic rock band and that kept him busy till he was about 30. He is not using his music degree, but he's always had a job and is a good son. He is 39 and we are proud of him
My kiddo had the same story, but went to a college with blocks (1 class at a time, blessedly our state’s cheapest 4 yr school is the only public block university in the US), graduated summa, & starts teaching in the fall. Do not panic if your smart kiddo falls apart in high school, it’s not uncommon, and gap years - if full of productivity, I highly recommend regular old paid labor - are wonderful tools! Mine paid for his first year’s tuition from gap year earnings.
@@montananerd8244 my son's gap year was after 1 semester! His grandma, who iced downstairs, was noticing that his car was there when he was supposed to be in class. We found out he stopped going after 6 weeks! We were so mad. We could have gotten some money back. Anyway, I told him he would not be going back until he was sure he wanted to, if ever. In the meantime, we started working full time at his part time job. He went back a year and a half later and got his degree
That's basically my story, too. School was fun for me until I had to work at it, and music still comes pretty naturally. I worked the system through the end of high school (wormed my way into easier classes by not doing homework and getting Cs in the Honors/AP classes), literally slept through Honors Chemistry with an A (there's a story behind that one), and completely fell apart once I got college. 7.5 years on and 7 years off and I finally got my degree in elementary education (minor in music) in 2019. I'm extremely happy where I am now, and I'm using that music training to pick up a new instrument that plays in different clefs, so at least I'm entertaining myself? I just wish I didn't have to be so extra in order to keep from being bored... 😅😂
Saying that a music degree is only a way to string notes together is dismissing the vast majority of work it requires. As a musician, i had to rock a very precise,tight schdule. I learned to communicate with and without words. I had to know where all my stuff was. I had to learn work as a team, b it with .y accompanist ir witha largeensemble. I had to follow directions, even if vauge, even if possibly wrong. I kearned how to do tedious and bori g work,and how to short cutwhat i could. I kearned to listen not just for neaning, but plain old hear things. I had to pattern match to precsion, and fix what as off quickly. I leaned to fit together the pieces of the music puze together, and how it reflected the societythatmade ot (i got way more world history learned from music history tgan regular history). I even learned how to pass all this on. On a good day i can let my music get me past my math learning disabities.
In 2007..my nephew was in 2nd grade and he came home off the bus griping about the mathematics class . He was labeled as a class clown distracting the other students. My sister and her husband hired a tutor or he went to some community learning place and they taught him in a different way and idk but he accelerated from there. He got a Masters Degree in finance from University of Minnesota and last week graduated 🎓 from Duke University with a MBA. finance school . He was in the top 10 at #6 who graduated.
This is interesting and it hits me. I am a violist/violinist. I have been playing music since I was 21 or 22 and now, I'm almost 38. I have worked SO hard and practice at least two hours a day, more if I'm off work. At this point, I can play difficult pieces and intermediate pieces without a struggle. I played in a recital next to a woman who was close to my age. She played the same piece with no effort, and she barely looked at the music. I asked her how many hours she practiced, and she told me all she did was look at our music once and got it. I was in shock. I spent two months learning that music and all she did was look at it one time. I safely assume she was gifted.
My son was IQ tested in second grade and was labeled as gifted but also in that county and state considered gifted as special education and had an amazing 3rd-7th grade curriculum. Even now in his senior year of college I have not had to worry about his grades but making sure his social skills are met. For me as a “gifted mother” my biggest concern has always been that he interacts with peers and makes friends in social settings.
I took a long time to understand maths and then at 13 it hit me like opening a window. I can still remember cracking the code of algebra and I was actually gifted in it and a few other areas (though in some areas just hard working). I topped our state in extension mathematics. I'm a teacher now and I HATE maths. I think it's because I used to be bored in class and tune out. It's my least favourite subject to teach.... EXCEPT this term I was put in a project to help the lowest kids. Everyday I see their lights turning on and suddenly maths is my favourite subject. You are obviously gifted yourself...I love your videos.
As a gifted teacher myself, Ms. Chang just nailed it. We only serve in math and reading in my district. I often get very bright hard working kids who are not gifted in my groups. I include them for enrichment.
Honestly, I think in parts these kids should be included. Gifted kids can learn to show up to planned behavior surrounded by high achieving kids. High achievers can learn to... Let go and play. Which may sound counterintuitive, but as long as gifted kids are not broken to shits, they can inspire... Play. Play is important. Showing up to perform as well. So in my book, the kids should work together at times. Without one group being 'better' than the other, of course. ❤❤❤ Which is hard to achieve, but... A hopeful thought at last.
Completely beside all relevant points: this whole [gestures wildly] purple scheme with your hair color and texture and the lines of the door panels are serious film candy.
Wow that was awesome explaining. Great Q n A . I grew up with a extremely gifted cousin. I ask him how he knew everything about many subjects and he said he could like take a picture with his mind of the page and remember it. I was floored! At 12 it was magic. Lol. Myself being the kid that studied my butt off! Lol pulling low c and F from time to time. 50 yrs later he's still smart and his Son is as well. He's also an artist. Does tattoo work.
I was gifted and pushed way further than I should have been and spent all of highschool struggling with college classes and there was no way to go back because I had to keep going to harder classes because I would pass the class before. It started in 5th grade and I definitely wish I would have been left alone to coast on easy street. When I went to college I actually went to remedial algebra classes, and the teacher sent me home 1/3 through semester and said I didn't need to come back I had an A. But it really helped getting a refresher on the beginning of math since I'd been doing trig in highschool. Gifted English and history were even harder and I was able to take basic classes in college finally and went for advanced biology instead.
In my experience, many gifted kids struggle throughout their school years. High IQ can come with multiple challenges, including neurodivergence, that affect focus and other executive functioning, even while the individual is a quick learner and highly creative. Of the 4 kids in our family, 3 tested into gifted, and the one who didn't had the best marks out of all of us! (Because she worked for them!)
Define "High Achieving." Is my husban in a high paying job? No. Is he a skilled problem solver and usually one of the brightest people in the room? Oh Hell Yes.
I was a gifted kid - dropped out of college at 20 and didn’t finish until my 40s. Now I have a grad degree, too, but it took a while. The material was never too hard for me, quite the opposite, it was the getting up, going in, dealing with social stuff, not spacing out, and forcing myself to do what seemed like pointless work (lol, because a lot of it was) that interfered. With my eldest, I legit got his gifted notification the same week I got his grades, which were, uh, not good. Same issue, he wasn’t doing the pointless homework when you already know all the material and know the homework is pointless. I ended up having to pull him out of HS and go to college early just because it would engage him more and had less pointless homework for him to not do. It worked. Underachieving gifted kids is totally a thing. AuDHD factored in with me, and ADHD with my gifted kid, but we are in no way totally abnormal among gifted folk.
I just turned 60 and can still remember the ink blot test and one question I was asked on my IQ/gifted screening test. It was between 4/5 grades. I went to 5 different elementary schools, and had to be tested at each transfer. The question I remember ( I can still see the school psychologist office in my mind) is what would I do if I found a baby left on the sidewalk or at the park? I said I would take it to the adoption agency. That threw that tester for a loop. School came easily to me ( except for spelling) until middle school foreign languages, or anything that required memorization. In high school I would never had cut it in AP classes because I had never been taught study skills. I did as little as needed because I would rather read a book, than do homework. So gifted , yes, high achieving, nope
So true. The formal "gifted" programs actually fall under the IDEA umbrella and have very specific criteria. On another 📝, just seeing one of your videos always makes me smile!
It's better to be a hard-working kid than "gifted". Check out the info on what happens to gifted kids in their late teens/young adulthood who burn out and/or never learned to do hard things
@dana9742 I know it is not a choice. Many report not learning how to study and then being shocked in college when they have to, don't know how, and then fail. They need to be pushed beyond their comfort zone in the younger years so they learn how to apply themselves when their giftedness doesn't help them breeze through a task
I was put in gifted high school classes, coming from a parochial school into public high school. My gifted classes were smaller, way more relaxed, open, conversational... Where as my non gifted classes were more wrote, and remedial. I certainly enjoyed the gift of classes more, whether I got more out of it or not is debatable.
I was in the gifted program as a kid-in Atlanta! I remember an IQ test that was verbal as I was 6-this was 1974. I had a wonderful teacher of the gifted all through elementary, which was 1-7 ( no public kindergarten and no middle/jr high). I did great in elementary but motivation kinda died off in high school.
I'm pretty sure I should have been a part of the gifted program. School is so boring I caught onto stuff way before anybody else. From middle school up I always did my homework the night before on big projects and if it was just one page of homework I could finish it in 5 minutes and still get an a regardless of the subject. It made me not even want to try because there was literally no challenge. Looking back I think I was creating the challenge myself by waiting till the last minute to do it.
Nah I was in the gifted program and still did this. I think it has more to do with a fear of failure. If you fail when you didn't try (only did night before) it was OK bc you didn't try. If you put in a bunch of effort and failed it was crushing so we learned at a young age to give ourselves an easy out if we did fail ie "i did it last minute"
Being gifted is not always a positive thing, people often ignore the pressure put on these children. Being kids is important also. Parents tend to get caught up in the "My kid is super smart" part, and forget the kid part. I love your portrayal of your kids in class. Your channel is super fun to watch. That was just a general opinion I have.
Was a gifted kid (though with a massive math deficit) and just breezed through school super easily until high school, when I had to keep track of assignment deadlines. Hell, half of the assignments I missed I'd actually _done_ and then just lost or forgot.
I think this is why my local school district doesn’t have a gifted program, they have a ‘highly capable’ program where they just advance the speed of the curriculum. An actual Gifted program would require a completely different kind of teaching rather than just “the same but more”
this is so interesting to me because, while my province (in Canada) has an official spec ed identification of "Gifted" (using all those tests you talked about), we actually don't have any programs for those students. at least my particular school board does not. they just...stay in the regular class. this is about school budgets and where to allocate money etc etc. and so because of this, there are barely any students who GET identified as gifted because there's no "reason" to, i guess is the best way of putting it. like, we as a school are not going to allocate one of our two psycho-educational assessments a year to a student who might be gifted because there are so many higher needs. really the only way is if parents have the $$$ to pay out-of-pocket for their own assessment - so you can see why this rarely happens! it's just interesting to see how different school systems budget and allocate resources for special education needs (I am my school's Special Education teacher - JK-Grade 6).
I'm sorry to get all subject but I love Miss White! I know some people like that. And I'm proud of what you do. And I understand what's your talking about here.
Hi, my question is if I have a high performing kid that teachers say is gifted, but he doesn't study and still gets As. The problem I see is he doesn't turn in his homework, etc because to him it doesn't matter if he still gets an A. I feel like this thinking will catch up to him one day (he's in middle school now). What's a parent to do with that?
That's my youngest, who is now 18 and will be heading to university in a few months, to one of the best universities in the UK (it's ranked just behind Oxford and Cambridge, which are the two big ones). They had an interview for Oxford but didn't quite get in. Probably not posh enough. Anyway, they coasted all the way through until 16, and then realised they didn't want to get less than A* in their A-levels (the top grade), so they started putting in the effort. There's not a lot you can do except during the teenager years let them know that they *will* at some point find they have to work and that it won't just come to them. But in a nice way, not in a shaming way. We don't want to be those awful Tiger Mothers 😬 Ultimately being happy and fulfilled in life is what's most important, isn't it? And being bored in life as an adult would be the result of not putting in the effort (I know because I was also a gifted child but chronic illness robbed me of my chance to achieve in school and my everyday job is so boring). Sorry for the length of reply, you clearly hit a nerve 😆
Just wait til: A) They can't just coast through any more OR B) Their coursework (homework) counts toward their grade ... That's the point to show concern if they don't buck up. I coasted up to my GCSEs, age 15&16 (where I still got 10x A-C grades)... A-levels - age 18 - were the BIG shock to me when I realised I had to work at stuff and only got C, D and E grades. That said, I also had multiple traumas and then some going on, both at home and school. ... Anyhow, your kiddo is lucky to have you being supportive and playing an active role in their life 👏😊
Find enrichment that supplements your student in areas of interest. In my experience as an adult who was a gifted student, I didn't do the homework even when it was graded. If I could get the highest test score in the class without doing the math homework, then clearly, the math homework was pointless. I wasn't going to spend my time doing something that was pointless when there were so many other interesting things I could be doing.
@@KayoEll Your comment reminds me of the system we used to have for mathematics, called K.M.P., where we learned individually from printed cards and then took a mini test, which the teacher would mark. I would cheat and just do the test because the cards were so boring. Most of the time I passed. It actually made me hate maths until I was about 17, though, when I realised it was actually iNtEResTinG
nah. maybe tell parents to get used to the fact that not every child is gifted regardless of what they want. semantics + euphemisms won't change the facts.
SpEd teacher here.
People hear Special Education and they think LOW intelligence and lots of Life Skills. 9 out of 10 times it is reading difficulties or attention difficulties that got them to me.
Our jobs are almost identical. Same shirts, different patterns ❤
SpEd is best practices.
My son was labeled gifted in elementary school. He was very smart and motivated, until High School. There, he was not "living up to his potential" academically. He did what he had to do to pass and graduate and go to college, though it took him 6 years to graduate college, with a year break. His true passion was music, from the age of 3, and he excelled in 2 bands in High School and formed his own classic rock band and that kept him busy till he was about 30. He is not using his music degree, but he's always had a job and is a good son. He is 39 and we are proud of him
My kiddo had the same story, but went to a college with blocks (1 class at a time, blessedly our state’s cheapest 4 yr school is the only public block university in the US), graduated summa, & starts teaching in the fall. Do not panic if your smart kiddo falls apart in high school, it’s not uncommon, and gap years - if full of productivity, I highly recommend regular old paid labor - are wonderful tools! Mine paid for his first year’s tuition from gap year earnings.
@@montananerd8244 my son's gap year was after 1 semester! His grandma, who iced downstairs, was noticing that his car was there when he was supposed to be in class. We found out he stopped going after 6 weeks! We were so mad. We could have gotten some money back. Anyway, I told him he would not be going back until he was sure he wanted to, if ever. In the meantime, we started working full time at his part time job. He went back a year and a half later and got his degree
That's basically my story, too. School was fun for me until I had to work at it, and music still comes pretty naturally. I worked the system through the end of high school (wormed my way into easier classes by not doing homework and getting Cs in the Honors/AP classes), literally slept through Honors Chemistry with an A (there's a story behind that one), and completely fell apart once I got college.
7.5 years on and 7 years off and I finally got my degree in elementary education (minor in music) in 2019. I'm extremely happy where I am now, and I'm using that music training to pick up a new instrument that plays in different clefs, so at least I'm entertaining myself? I just wish I didn't have to be so extra in order to keep from being bored... 😅😂
Saying that a music degree is only a way to string notes together is dismissing the vast majority of work it requires. As a musician, i had to rock a very precise,tight schdule. I learned to communicate with and without words. I had to know where all my stuff was. I had to learn work as a team, b it with .y accompanist ir witha largeensemble. I had to follow directions, even if vauge, even if possibly wrong. I kearned how to do tedious and bori g work,and how to short cutwhat i could. I kearned to listen not just for neaning, but plain old hear things. I had to pattern match to precsion, and fix what as off quickly. I leaned to fit together the pieces of the music puze together, and how it reflected the societythatmade ot (i got way more world history learned from music history tgan regular history). I even learned how to pass all this on. On a good day i can let my music get me past my math learning disabities.
In 2007..my nephew was in 2nd grade and he came home off the bus griping about the mathematics class . He was labeled as a class clown distracting the other students. My sister and her husband hired a tutor or he went to some community learning place and they taught him in a different way and idk but he accelerated from there. He got a Masters Degree in finance from University of Minnesota and last week graduated 🎓 from Duke University with a MBA. finance school . He was in the top 10 at #6 who graduated.
This is interesting and it hits me. I am a violist/violinist. I have been playing music since I was 21 or 22 and now, I'm almost 38. I have worked SO hard and practice at least two hours a day, more if I'm off work. At this point, I can play difficult pieces and intermediate pieces without a struggle. I played in a recital next to a woman who was close to my age. She played the same piece with no effort, and she barely looked at the music. I asked her how many hours she practiced, and she told me all she did was look at our music once and got it. I was in shock. I spent two months learning that music and all she did was look at it one time. I safely assume she was gifted.
My son was IQ tested in second grade and was labeled as gifted but also in that county and state considered gifted as special education and had an amazing 3rd-7th grade curriculum. Even now in his senior year of college I have not had to worry about his grades but making sure his social skills are met. For me as a “gifted mother” my biggest concern has always been that he interacts with peers and makes friends in social settings.
I took a long time to understand maths and then at 13 it hit me like opening a window. I can still remember cracking the code of algebra and I was actually gifted in it and a few other areas (though in some areas just hard working). I topped our state in extension mathematics. I'm a teacher now and I HATE maths. I think it's because I used to be bored in class and tune out. It's my least favourite subject to teach.... EXCEPT this term I was put in a project to help the lowest kids. Everyday I see their lights turning on and suddenly maths is my favourite subject. You are obviously gifted yourself...I love your videos.
As a gifted teacher myself, Ms. Chang just nailed it. We only serve in math and reading in my district. I often get very bright hard working kids who are not gifted in my groups. I include them for enrichment.
Honestly, I think in parts these kids should be included. Gifted kids can learn to show up to planned behavior surrounded by high achieving kids. High achievers can learn to... Let go and play. Which may sound counterintuitive, but as long as gifted kids are not broken to shits, they can inspire... Play. Play is important. Showing up to perform as well. So in my book, the kids should work together at times. Without one group being 'better' than the other, of course. ❤❤❤ Which is hard to achieve, but... A hopeful thought at last.
Completely beside all relevant points: this whole [gestures wildly] purple scheme with your hair color and texture and the lines of the door panels are serious film candy.
Wow that was awesome explaining. Great Q n A . I grew up with a extremely gifted cousin. I ask him how he knew everything about many subjects and he said he could like take a picture with his mind of the page and remember it. I was floored! At 12 it was magic. Lol. Myself being the kid that studied my butt off! Lol pulling low c and F from time to time.
50 yrs later he's still smart and his Son is as well. He's also an artist. Does tattoo work.
thx for shedding a little light on that Ms. Chang :O) love your videos
I was gifted and pushed way further than I should have been and spent all of highschool struggling with college classes and there was no way to go back because I had to keep going to harder classes because I would pass the class before. It started in 5th grade and I definitely wish I would have been left alone to coast on easy street. When I went to college I actually went to remedial algebra classes, and the teacher sent me home 1/3 through semester and said I didn't need to come back I had an A. But it really helped getting a refresher on the beginning of math since I'd been doing trig in highschool.
Gifted English and history were even harder and I was able to take basic classes in college finally and went for advanced biology instead.
Yessssssss!🙏🏼💖
Golly I wish every teacher was like you or at least half of them❤
My sister and I are both gifted. Neither of us try to get straight A’s, but I care more when I don’t get an A than she does.
Thank you for this video! Highly informative, I really appreciate it!
I appreciate how well you explain issues. You keep it simple, especially for this 59 year old ✌️🤣🥰🌈🕊️
Never thought of a gifted kid who wasn't high achieving, but it makes perfect sense. Very informative, thank you
In my experience, many gifted kids struggle throughout their school years. High IQ can come with multiple challenges, including neurodivergence, that affect focus and other executive functioning, even while the individual is a quick learner and highly creative. Of the 4 kids in our family, 3 tested into gifted, and the one who didn't had the best marks out of all of us! (Because she worked for them!)
Define "High Achieving." Is my husban in a high paying job? No. Is he a skilled problem solver and usually one of the brightest people in the room? Oh Hell Yes.
I was a gifted kid - dropped out of college at 20 and didn’t finish until my 40s. Now I have a grad degree, too, but it took a while. The material was never too hard for me, quite the opposite, it was the getting up, going in, dealing with social stuff, not spacing out, and forcing myself to do what seemed like pointless work (lol, because a lot of it was) that interfered. With my eldest, I legit got his gifted notification the same week I got his grades, which were, uh, not good. Same issue, he wasn’t doing the pointless homework when you already know all the material and know the homework is pointless. I ended up having to pull him out of HS and go to college early just because it would engage him more and had less pointless homework for him to not do. It worked. Underachieving gifted kids is totally a thing. AuDHD factored in with me, and ADHD with my gifted kid, but we are in no way totally abnormal among gifted folk.
I just turned 60 and can still remember the ink blot test and one question I was asked on my IQ/gifted screening test. It was between 4/5 grades. I went to 5 different elementary schools, and had to be tested at each transfer. The question I remember ( I can still see the school psychologist office in my mind) is what would I do if I found a baby left on the sidewalk or at the park? I said I would take it to the adoption agency. That threw that tester for a loop. School came easily to me ( except for spelling) until middle school foreign languages, or anything that required memorization. In high school I would never had cut it in AP classes because I had never been taught study skills. I did as little as needed because I would rather read a book, than do homework. So gifted , yes, high achieving, nope
So true. The formal "gifted" programs actually fall under the IDEA umbrella and have very specific criteria.
On another 📝, just seeing one of your videos always makes me smile!
It's better to be a hard-working kid than "gifted". Check out the info on what happens to gifted kids in their late teens/young adulthood who burn out and/or never learned to do hard things
Being gifted isn’t a choice. Gifted kids need differentiation too to help them reach their potential.
@dana9742 I know it is not a choice. Many report not learning how to study and then being shocked in college when they have to, don't know how, and then fail. They need to be pushed beyond their comfort zone in the younger years so they learn how to apply themselves when their giftedness doesn't help them breeze through a task
I was put in gifted high school classes, coming from a parochial school into public high school. My gifted classes were smaller, way more relaxed, open, conversational... Where as my non gifted classes were more wrote, and remedial. I certainly enjoyed the gift of classes more, whether I got more out of it or not is debatable.
I was in the gifted program as a kid-in Atlanta! I remember an IQ test that was verbal as I was 6-this was 1974. I had a wonderful teacher of the gifted all through elementary, which was 1-7 ( no public kindergarten and no middle/jr high). I did great in elementary but motivation kinda died off in high school.
I'm pretty sure I should have been a part of the gifted program. School is so boring I caught onto stuff way before anybody else. From middle school up I always did my homework the night before on big projects and if it was just one page of homework I could finish it in 5 minutes and still get an a regardless of the subject. It made me not even want to try because there was literally no challenge. Looking back I think I was creating the challenge myself by waiting till the last minute to do it.
Nah I was in the gifted program and still did this. I think it has more to do with a fear of failure. If you fail when you didn't try (only did night before) it was OK bc you didn't try. If you put in a bunch of effort and failed it was crushing so we learned at a young age to give ourselves an easy out if we did fail ie "i did it last minute"
Being gifted is not always a positive thing, people often ignore the pressure put on these children.
Being kids is important also.
Parents tend to get caught up in the "My kid is super smart" part, and forget the kid part.
I love your portrayal of your kids in class. Your channel is super fun to watch. That was just a general opinion I have.
Girl, soo glad to see you again! Maybe it's just my feed but, happy to see you
Was a gifted kid (though with a massive math deficit) and just breezed through school super easily until high school, when I had to keep track of assignment deadlines. Hell, half of the assignments I missed I'd actually _done_ and then just lost or forgot.
I think this is why my local school district doesn’t have a gifted program, they have a ‘highly capable’ program where they just advance the speed of the curriculum.
An actual
Gifted program would require a completely different kind of teaching rather than just “the same but more”
this is so interesting to me because, while my province (in Canada) has an official spec ed identification of "Gifted" (using all those tests you talked about), we actually don't have any programs for those students. at least my particular school board does not. they just...stay in the regular class. this is about school budgets and where to allocate money etc etc. and so because of this, there are barely any students who GET identified as gifted because there's no "reason" to, i guess is the best way of putting it. like, we as a school are not going to allocate one of our two psycho-educational assessments a year to a student who might be gifted because there are so many higher needs. really the only way is if parents have the $$$ to pay out-of-pocket for their own assessment - so you can see why this rarely happens! it's just interesting to see how different school systems budget and allocate resources for special education needs (I am my school's Special Education teacher - JK-Grade 6).
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How can I help my twice exceptional sons to reach their potential?
I'm sorry to get all subject but I love Miss White! I know some people like that. And I'm proud of what you do. And I understand what's your talking about here.
I love when u teach are u on summer break
I was in the gifted program growing up. But I also have adhd. 😂 so I hyper fixated on things I liked. But things that required memory work? Pass😂
Hi, my question is if I have a high performing kid that teachers say is gifted, but he doesn't study and still gets As. The problem I see is he doesn't turn in his homework, etc because to him it doesn't matter if he still gets an A. I feel like this thinking will catch up to him one day (he's in middle school now). What's a parent to do with that?
That's my youngest, who is now 18 and will be heading to university in a few months, to one of the best universities in the UK (it's ranked just behind Oxford and Cambridge, which are the two big ones). They had an interview for Oxford but didn't quite get in. Probably not posh enough. Anyway, they coasted all the way through until 16, and then realised they didn't want to get less than A* in their A-levels (the top grade), so they started putting in the effort. There's not a lot you can do except during the teenager years let them know that they *will* at some point find they have to work and that it won't just come to them. But in a nice way, not in a shaming way. We don't want to be those awful Tiger Mothers 😬 Ultimately being happy and fulfilled in life is what's most important, isn't it? And being bored in life as an adult would be the result of not putting in the effort (I know because I was also a gifted child but chronic illness robbed me of my chance to achieve in school and my everyday job is so boring). Sorry for the length of reply, you clearly hit a nerve 😆
Just wait til:
A) They can't just coast through any more OR
B) Their coursework (homework) counts toward their grade
... That's the point to show concern if they don't buck up.
I coasted up to my GCSEs, age 15&16 (where I still got 10x A-C grades)... A-levels - age 18 - were the BIG shock to me when I realised I had to work at stuff and only got C, D and E grades. That said, I also had multiple traumas and then some going on, both at home and school.
... Anyhow, your kiddo is lucky to have you being supportive and playing an active role in their life 👏😊
Find enrichment that supplements your student in areas of interest. In my experience as an adult who was a gifted student, I didn't do the homework even when it was graded. If I could get the highest test score in the class without doing the math homework, then clearly, the math homework was pointless. I wasn't going to spend my time doing something that was pointless when there were so many other interesting things I could be doing.
@@KayoEll Your comment reminds me of the system we used to have for mathematics, called K.M.P., where we learned individually from printed cards and then took a mini test, which the teacher would mark. I would cheat and just do the test because the cards were so boring. Most of the time I passed. It actually made me hate maths until I was about 17, though, when I realised it was actually iNtEResTinG
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There is no way 😂 you didn’t even answer about if your sons were gifted r not 😅🤦🏼♀️
Maybe stop calling it "gifted" which every parent wants their child to be. Give it a more technical name.
nah. maybe tell parents to get used to the fact that not every child is gifted regardless of what they want.
semantics + euphemisms won't change the facts.