Fantom vs Montage: Polyphony Wars; A Head to Head Comparison
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2023
- This video does a simple comparison between the Roland Fantom and the Yamaha Montage's polyphony management. Both keyboards will play the same exact song through MIDI using similar sounds. Which one do you think did better in the polyphony test? Let me know in the comments!
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Thanks, Darrick, for a great video as always. I have both Montage 8 and Fantom 7. I was considering to sell the Montage but now I will keep it after seeing your video. Thanks, again.
Awesome review. With me having a laptop I don’t worry about polyphony. One advantage that Roland has is that at a fraction of the cost and an awesome controller you have access to Zenology, which features alot of the Roland Pianos. Hardware workstations should all catchup with the times. Since processing chips are small and most workstations have computers they all need to step up their game.
Thanks for the video! You’re real good in what you do
Was looking at getting an Roland Integra 7 or Kurzweil K2500RS sound module. You gave me something to consider. Thinking the older Roland hardware may handle this better but I need to check both Intergra 7 and K2500RS for polyphony. The Kurzweil is the low risk choice.
Great stuff Derrick, subbed.
Very important aspect, thanks, master!
One of the things I love about the Prophet 10 is its voice allocation style. Instead of going round robin through the voices when you hit the same key multiple times it keeps using the same voice. Therefore you can play other notes and the original voice only gets cut off if 10 other keys are played. Imagine this style of voice allocation in a 128 or 256 note polyphonic synth. You could layer quite a bit and not have dropouts!
Darrick, thank you for this video. I didn’t realize polyphony was a thing till I saw your video. This will definitely help me a lot. I was looking at the Fantom for a new keyboard and I LOVE layering sounds. On my laptop I layer 5 sounds at any given moment so to see the Fantom give out at 3 layers was disappointing.
Ive also had many issues with Roland products with this problem. HAve you ever considered the Kurzweil K series? I recently picked up 2- K2700 boards. One for home and one at Church. The way Kurz handles this issue for me and has always been exceptional. Ive always had Kurzweils since the early 90's To me, they always worked well in whatever I was doing. Very good video Darrick. Thank you for posting.
In my opinion, The Yamaha Montage is better than the Roland Fantom, at also the sounds as well as the polyphony.
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Some people will almost always create complex sound stacks that will either hit the poliphony or processing cieling. Thats why it still today is a good idea to have a 2'nd keyboard or module with some usefull sounds for stacking. Even the Kronos theoretically have 9 different engines with combined 1000+ notes poliphony or something like that, you will allmost always run out of processing power before you hit the max poliphony no matter how you distribute the sounds because it has to distribute the processing between both the used engines and what effects you have running. My feeling is, you still have to have a pretty competent PC to match a good workstation in power. And when you think of how old the Atom cpu in the Kronos is, it still after It's discontinued amazes me how much Korg got out of that silly little cpu compared to what we have available in our computers today and it still handles sample streaming from the SSD better than Kontakt. I still to this day think the Roland Phantom (big one) is way overpriced compared to what it brings. There is caveats with the Kronos too, but to this day none of the competitors much newer designed synths is handling seemlesly sound switching as good as the Kronos. Even it has 10 years on tha back, Iwould actually rather invest in an Integra module and stick with whatever you got of favorite Keyboard, It's extra poliphony and there is many good sounds available in it
Hi sir, I really like the video.... I am wondering what model of each are you using? I bought the latest MODX 8+ (Plus) and had notes dropping after only a handful.....like literally less than 20, and then it would just stop playing altogether for a few notes and then come back in, dropping the sustain after a mere second while the pedal is still suppressed. They replaced the piano and the second one did the same thing.
Thanks for sharing that my friend
To make those tests complete you can also change NOTE PRIORITY from LAST to LOUDEST for the tones of your Roland Fantom and save those tones as user tones. I am not sure if this applies to SN tones, but applies for PCMS in Juno or FA so should in Zen Core. You will find this setting in COMMON tab in Tone Edit. But frankly speaking we should have much more usable polyphony in Rolands just with factory preset tones.
So, what system requirement is enough to create ambient music with pads, arpegiators, drums, bass? Any Daw with Apple macbook at least 8gb RAM and Midi keyboard?
Really considering this synthesizer now my hopes have failed me please I need advice
Hi, great vídeo! Congras! It would be great to have a comparisson between Roland Fantom 8 and the new Korg PA5x 88 ;) I'm in the fence which one should I buy! I'm very bad at programing, so I want something simple with great sounds ready to use! Thanks :)
I have a Roland FA and have a similiar issue I am still a lover of roland but I wont use it as my main keyboard anymore because of the polyphony issue.....Im getting a Fantom 0/Flagship eventually but it will be my secondary/aux board....I really think it is more suitable for that usage....Looking at a Nord Piano or a maybe even getting a motif es rack......The Roland is a great master keyboard