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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
    00:00 William Nylander signs an 8-year, 92 million dollar extension
    33:00 The Leafs California road trip SWEEEP
    58:45 The Winnipeg Jets and Vancouver Canucks are a top the NHL standings, also the Blackhawks are a team that exists
    1:14:00 The Ottawa Senators continue to struggle
    1:28:00 Nick Cousins and Ryan Hartman are getting away with everything
    1:44:00 The PWHL is off to a very successful start
    1:48:00 Team USA captures the World Juniors
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  • @Alescandon135
    @Alescandon135 Před 5 měsíci +31

    "We keep losing in the first and second round of the playoffs, It's a good problem to have!"
    Adam and Jesse in full denial mode here

  • @pomerlain8924
    @pomerlain8924 Před 5 měsíci +206

    Adam and Jessie are hung up on talent, and Steve's looking at it logically. Do you want a team that has all the elite talent and has good regular seasons, or do you want to have a team that has a chance to contend for cup? So far, all this elite talent they have has netted them one playoff series victory. And for what they're being paid, that is not good enough.

    • @eClayds33
      @eClayds33 Před 5 měsíci +5

      No one asked lil bro

    • @evinrock5717
      @evinrock5717 Před 5 měsíci

      @@eClayds33nobody asked for your lame ass reply either

    • @hillfortherstudios2757
      @hillfortherstudios2757 Před 5 měsíci +33

      Its the comment section. People are having fun by commenting on a podcastthey enjoy. ​@eClayds33

    • @tylerlussier1896
      @tylerlussier1896 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @pomerlain8924 I definitely agree with you, I do believe this team will have some more playoff wins but they will never win a cup with this team in my opinion…

    • @tylerlussier1896
      @tylerlussier1896 Před 5 měsíci

      @@eClayds33 no one asked you to care bud lol you don’t care about the comment you can go sulk somewhere else.

  • @100ballster
    @100ballster Před 5 měsíci +48

    Nylander making 13 million for 7 years in free agency is CRAZY TALK, Adam

    • @Herrlorddonkoenigczar
      @Herrlorddonkoenigczar Před 5 měsíci +8

      He must be confused because in the same sentence he said he’s worth market value at 11. Which one is it? 11 or 13..Can’t have it both ways Adam.

    • @redheron4321
      @redheron4321 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Herrlorddonkoenigczar He also said at one point Willy got signed for under 11. Guy is confused

    • @torontokid2727
      @torontokid2727 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@Herrlorddonkoenigczar Market value if he was signing with his own team. Free agency comes with an inflated price tag for star players more often than not. Also he is probably basing 13 off of the fact that Marner was offered 13 from Columbus when he was an RFA.

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Herrlorddonkoenigczar Market value at $11 for 8 years or $13 million for 7... I cant believe I have to spell that out to you. Adam even said exactly that.

    • @StarForgedTCG
      @StarForgedTCG Před 5 měsíci +1

      tavares was offered 13 5 yeara ago, and nylander is bettwr than tavares and cap is going up a lot the next few years

  • @orango007
    @orango007 Před 5 měsíci +10

    One very underrated factor for both the Canucks and Jets are their amazing 3rd lines, with them arguably being two of the best 3rd lines in the league right now. Joshua, Blueger, Garland for the Canucks, and Niederreiter, Lowry, Appleton for the Jets are lines designed to grind and wear down the opposition, and then punish them with high speed counter attacks. Wish the Leafs would build their 3rd line like that, because those are lines that will help win playoff games.

    • @jefffreese947
      @jefffreese947 Před 5 měsíci

      Great, great post. Teams that win the play-off's have 3rd lines constructed like that. The Leafs are built like EA sports team.

  • @milkers7919
    @milkers7919 Před 5 měsíci +68

    Bro if i hear "but the cap is going up" one more time im gonna flip. They will never win by spending this amount on this few players

    • @evinrock5717
      @evinrock5717 Před 5 měsíci +11

      I swear I just left this exact comment on JD bunkis podcast. The cap is only going up so much, Nylander and Matthews are already eating up what the cap is growing to. Then it’ll be marners new deal. This will never end.

    • @maruso2221
      @maruso2221 Před 5 měsíci

      And what would you have them do instead? Let Willy walk? Lose a trade like every team trading a superstar does? It's shitty that our stars won't give us an inch on AAV but management did the only thing they could here

    • @judistzoinkiski3395
      @judistzoinkiski3395 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@maruso2221 Dubas was willing to Trade either Mitch or WIllie but hey the big baby Shanny didnt like that. Shanny needs to to go.

    • @CC-pj7iy
      @CC-pj7iy Před 5 měsíci

      Value in Willie is in long term. And he's the most consistent of the 4 core. Marner likely gets to walk at the end of his deal, and there's no way Tavares gets north of 10 after his contract runs out. Fortunately, samsonov became trash, so that could clear up some space and the goalie depth is looking serviceable. So only 1 year of extreme cap crunch next season.

    • @maruso2221
      @maruso2221 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@judistzoinkiski3395I agree that shanny completely messed up the off-season and needs to go. If we're looking from the tre hiring onwards tho, I just don't know what I do differently considering marner's nmc

  • @jaredparsons2334
    @jaredparsons2334 Před 5 měsíci +24

    Adam said Matthews will be here "as long as their winning"! What regular season games?! 😂

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci +1

      Adam forgot what happened to Boston in R1. They were winners too then got absolutely clowned by that reverse sweep.

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci

      @@RandomGuyCDN Because has only one or two lines

    • @dougtessier2269
      @dougtessier2269 Před 5 měsíci

      What have they won?

  • @TheWailer56
    @TheWailer56 Před 5 měsíci +27

    They talk about Vilardi coming is what really propelled the Jets recently. IDK if they know that Kyle Connor has been injured for the past month lol. Were in 1st without having our full top 6 healthy for any significant stretch 😂😂

    • @TIGHTESTJEANSPART2
      @TIGHTESTJEANSPART2 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I love the addition of Vilardi, the way he plays in front of the net, and his hands in tight, etc….
      But Adam saying he loves the SPEED he brings is yikes… it was painfully obvious he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    • @TheWailer56
      @TheWailer56 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@TIGHTESTJEANSPART2 yeah. So often I get excited when more National media pays attention to us for positive reasons. Then I remember why no one talks about us to much lol. Vilardi has been great but his strengths have been vision, positioning, board battles, stick skills in tight, quick release, etc. But blazing speed isn’t one of them, hence why ehlers adds so much to that line.

    • @TIGHTESTJEANSPART2
      @TIGHTESTJEANSPART2 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TheWailer56 Agreed

    • @geebster.
      @geebster. Před 5 měsíci

      Adam is that one guy that has super strong opinions while knowing absolutely nothing about the subject. He has never once watched a Jets or Canucks game and its pretty obvious.@@TIGHTESTJEANSPART2

  • @larrygiles1603
    @larrygiles1603 Před 5 měsíci +92

    The Leafs have spent years losing in the playoffs by overpaying the "core", and they're doubling down , Steve is 100% right and Adam and Jesse seem perfectly happy to win the regular season and that's it

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 Před 5 měsíci +9

      IKR!!! They're hung up on regular season stats. That's all nice and all, but you're paid to win in the spring. Don't care about scoring 100 point or 70 goals. What do they do in the postseason, when it matters? Do they elevate their games to carry this team? So far, it's a big, fat no

    • @ezwelchman
      @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci +5

      What should they have done?? Steve didn’t have answer, what’s yours?

    • @ezwelchman
      @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@pomerlain8924nylander consistently does what you asked. He shows up when it matters

    • @Chillin24Seven
      @Chillin24Seven Před 5 měsíci

      @@ezwelchman Sign and trade. Keep him for the playoffs and do a sign and trade. I know the Tkachuk/Huberdeau trade didn’t work out for the Flames but look at the Dubois trade between the Jets and LA. Jets are leading the league right now.

    • @clearly-not-as-we-drew-this-up
      @clearly-not-as-we-drew-this-up Před 5 měsíci

      This is so entertaining watching these guys losing their Shh over a signing that virtually guarantees we get to see Steve quite literally lose his shh while doing his live stream of the Leafs bowing out in round one for the next 6-8 years.
      Luv ya Steve, neva change! We know the Leafs won't.

  • @Gum_Cuzzler
    @Gum_Cuzzler Před 5 měsíci +18

    I’ll believe we’re letting Marner walk when it happens. If I had to guess we’ll be throwing 12.5 at Mitch next season. What makes you think based on the orgs actions so far they’ll let that happen?

  • @aaronquiambao8134
    @aaronquiambao8134 Před 5 měsíci +12

    I remember Marner's free agency and how people were saying that he would get XX paid by another team if the Leafs don't pay him and that ones Marner signs, his contract will set the bar for every other FA winger. The Leafs paid handsomely and no other player signed for anything close to what Marner got.
    I feel like this is a similar situation.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 Před 5 měsíci +4

      And for a guy who was an RFA, not a UFA. He was paid like he was McDavid.

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci

      @@pomerlain8924 He was paid like the cap will be $100 million within 4 or 5 years

    • @plushie946
      @plushie946 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@mikehillproject that's called gambling. We shouldn't like it when the org gambles instead of just making solid decisions that hold up regardless of theoretical cap changes

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci

      @@plushie946 Gambling? It has been projected the cap will be at $100 million in 4 or 5 years. Even the Hockey Guy is saying that. In this business nothing is a safe play. Players get hurt, etc. There are a whole host of mitigating factors but you cannot build a winning team if you're scared to make a move, you have to be bold.

    • @people3865
      @people3865 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@mikehillprojectWhile not getting max term. If Marner, Mathews and Willy all signed the same deals for 8 years, I never say a word.

  • @anonblahanon
    @anonblahanon Před 5 měsíci +6

    "but enough about zach hyman"
    oof

  • @evinrock5717
    @evinrock5717 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Adam. Nobody thought Nylander couldn’t hit this level. Anyone who watched him knew this level was attainable. But he clearly didn’t give his all in a lot of games. Motivation was always a issue for him and If he went into every year thinking it’s a contract year he could have had these points 1-3 years ago. He’s always had the God given talent, but showing it every night has only happened this year. So why give a guy with motivational issues a 8 year contract. He won’t have to work like he has been again.

    • @Jbbles
      @Jbbles Před 5 měsíci +1

      I don't think it was motivation. Started wearing the tinted visor because of migraines and has the best season of his career followed by an even better one.

    • @Dtskiiiiiii
      @Dtskiiiiiii Před 5 měsíci +2

      I hope not…. But I think he slows his game down now that he signed and he’ll go back to being old Willy. I know having a contract year is a thing and he def took advantage as he should… but we all saw his habits of not trying his best. Hope I’m wrong

    • @clearly-not-as-we-drew-this-up
      @clearly-not-as-we-drew-this-up Před 5 měsíci

      Amen evin, you see it, I see it, many people see it evin. But evin, they don't see it. They just don't see it evin.

    • @people3865
      @people3865 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@JbblesHe admitted he has motivation issues himself lmao. Wtf you on?

  • @reignofrock
    @reignofrock Před 5 měsíci +8

    $46,653,000 on 4 players next season. That is insane.

  • @jpdemontigny
    @jpdemontigny Před 5 měsíci +8

    Nylander is definitely a great player and he got max $$, max term and max no move clause. What part of this negotiation did the team win?

    • @anthony2507
      @anthony2507 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The part where they kept the player while they negotiated against what-ifs and future cap space. It's like celebrating a goalie goal but the goalie puts it into his own net..

    • @jjjobin7124
      @jjjobin7124 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Great players have trophies
      Willie got paid 4 nothing

  • @williamratel6200
    @williamratel6200 Před 5 měsíci +65

    I’m with Steve on this one. Adam and Jesse are trying to have it both ways and you just cant. Just look at what’s happening in Calgary, a team that Tree just left in shambles after signing a big name player to a big money contract. That same guy along with Shanny, who clearly is just sticking with the plan that Dubas made up, are going to just not miss on depth pieces? Like good for Willy for getting the bag but come on now.

    • @judistzoinkiski3395
      @judistzoinkiski3395 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Dubas was atleast willing to see what he could get for Mitch/Willie but yeah ignoring that rightYIKES

    • @tylerlussier1896
      @tylerlussier1896 Před 5 měsíci

      I believe this team will win some rounds but they won’t win a cup in my opinion they do not have a Top 4 RD that is very good or elite and it’s rare a team wins without a super solid RD, They have to many players making to much money and if JT walks good luck getting a second line Center that can produce and play a 2 way game like JT for anything less than 7 million, Marner is going to get 11 million when his deal is up or he’s going to walk I don’t believe he will waive to be traded, They won’t have enough money for an elite or great goaltender and with their defence they are going to need a goalie that can play really good to make up for the defensive issues in the playoffs, They will also not have enough money for solid depth pieces to keep on the team long enough where they can get chemistry with each other… so in my opinion this team will not win a cup, They got out of the rebuild way to fast and they sold to many prospects way to fast along with picks… Dubas signed these players with the intention that the cap would have increased which you have to take that into consideration he couldn’t predict Covid but still it did not work for them… If Toronto was smart they should have let Nylander walk, He’s not the best player on this roster I’m sorry but he’s not going to be a consistent 100+ point player this is a career year he’s a 40-45 goal 90 point player in my opinion at best, I could be wrong but I think this is the best year he will have, he’s gonna get the bag and get comfortable… I’m not a leafs fan I’m a Habs fan but my brother is a leafs fan and I feel bad for you guys, If you have Matthews and Marner that’s good enough to build with other players that don’t cost more than 8 million in the top 6 WITH winning habits….

    • @sjohn4299
      @sjohn4299 Před 5 měsíci

      @@judistzoinkiski3395i honestly didn’t believe Dubas when he said that, idk if he didn’t do it in the prior playoff failures who knows if he actually would’ve done it

    • @BaneOfV
      @BaneOfV Před 5 měsíci +1

      Please never say Shanahan is going by dubas' plan. Dubas literally didn't get resigned(left) because he wanted full control(no more Shanahan having a say). Dubas was 100% willing to trade willy or mitch. Shanahan wasn't, that's why we are here now, with 4 forwards making 10+

  • @brendonshewchuk3310
    @brendonshewchuk3310 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Sweet Jesus thank you for providing coverage on the Jets, God knows that no other sports outlets are talking about the best team in the league

  • @stuffnsuch631
    @stuffnsuch631 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Why is it so hard for gms to understand. Trade when players are on their peaks and sign long term to players on a low. Value contacts win cups, expensive talent doesn't.

  • @chrisnelson2770
    @chrisnelson2770 Před 5 měsíci +29

    Nylander 2 years at/over point per game = 11.5 million 😂

  • @Sundagar
    @Sundagar Před 5 měsíci +1

    When is the first watch PWHL Toronto with Steve? it would be awesome

  • @matthewfast4817
    @matthewfast4817 Před 5 měsíci +2

    In all of december, the jets let in 3 goals in only 1 game (against montreal) and they still got a point in the game cuz it was in overtime. They have been soooo good

  • @TheRappos
    @TheRappos Před 5 měsíci +1

    "You gotta have guys in the line up to always keep pushing the other guys"
    This is why having MadDog in the back is so smart to keep you three pushing good content.

  • @rebel-by-design
    @rebel-by-design Před 5 měsíci +3

    I am having just the best time following the PWHL so far. Thanks for keeping it a topic of conversation on the show/network!

  • @gregoryfoster5628
    @gregoryfoster5628 Před 5 měsíci +20

    The leafs have 4 of the top 10 AAV contracts in the NHL.... got past the first round once. LOL

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci +5

      I wouldnt even classify that as a 2nd round appearance, the stole a game and but got rolled the rest of the games

  • @hendersongalbreath1072
    @hendersongalbreath1072 Před 5 měsíci +3

    You just paid William Nylander $2M more than Nikita Kucherov. Take a bow, Leafs.

    • @Herrlorddonkoenigczar
      @Herrlorddonkoenigczar Před 5 měsíci +2

      That’s not valid. It relative to the market at the time, which isn’t fair I know. Pettersson about to be getting McDavid money so yeah, this league with it’s cap and it’s elite players demanding overpayment is pretty messed up

  • @Dx-so7jm
    @Dx-so7jm Před 5 měsíci +15

    I think its crazy you guys think 38 games this season added over 16 million dollars to willies contract , it was always this number because thats what willie wanted

    • @greatestgameonearth
      @greatestgameonearth Před 5 měsíci +1

      No shot. If he doesn't play this well he doesn't have the leverage to get the deal. He waited to sign to prove he deserves the money. If he doesn't play as well as he has this year he is getting less money.

    • @CorrionReap
      @CorrionReap Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@greatestgameonearth nit as a Ufa xD

  • @yuxnhockeyBC
    @yuxnhockeyBC Před 5 měsíci

    Congrats on 100k subs boys 🍻(preemptively)

  • @Sundagar
    @Sundagar Před 5 měsíci

    As a Finn I agree with it being a good thing other countries get a crack in the world series games at the top 3/winning. It has such a huge impact in promoting the sport to the youth and developing more professional players down the line in those countries

  • @MSmith-cp1tz
    @MSmith-cp1tz Před 5 měsíci

    So doubling down on the Core 4. This should be fun.

  • @snakeeer69
    @snakeeer69 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I love hearing pucks hitting Martin Jones. Just a loud thump with no movement or panic. He simply stops pucks. Period. He's our number one goalie now. No question about it. Woll will be the backup when he comes back.

  • @Luminathan
    @Luminathan Před 5 měsíci

    Another point, that is not talked about a lot is having this structure of some high priced superstars may not be great for playoff success, but probably great for revenues from all kinds of trinkets, and growing the fanbase (e.g. in Sweden) even more as it is now.

  • @djcrouton2680
    @djcrouton2680 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Interesting thing about focusing on high-value players. The Jets moved Dubois and got 4 pieces back. One was a pick and one has been injured but it improved their depth and now they're the top team in the league because everyone one of their lines can do damage. If the top two lines aren't scoring, the bottom two are. You can't have 4 forwards plus Reilly plus a bunch of scrubs and no goaltending and expect to do anything in this league.

  • @alexparadi522
    @alexparadi522 Před 5 měsíci +5

    ... so how has Boston managed to get so many of their players at a discount? I don't think it's fair to say you "can't win" UFA.

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci +1

      Boston players arent divas looking for the $$. They're playing hockey to win the cup. Leafs players only care about the $$.

  • @dwightthomas8632
    @dwightthomas8632 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Jesse should get Blake and #55 on a Leafs jersey as that was Jason Blake's jersey number with the leafs.

  • @drewlally2324
    @drewlally2324 Před 5 měsíci +1

    “I don’t like seeing Latvia show up and get blow out every game. I like seeing a competitive Germany team” Steve Latvia beat Germany this year

  • @D0VES0AP
    @D0VES0AP Před 5 měsíci +1

    as a guy whos not a leafs fan THANK YOU for the timestamps love the crew just not my team😂

  • @ajbolt7
    @ajbolt7 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My issue with the “Jailbreak” rule is that it straight up gives teams the chance of negating the consequences of a penalty. If you’re giving teams any out for “accidentally” roughing the other guy up (like idk cross-checking Zadina in the back since it’s known he’s got lingering back issues), that’s a dangerous precedent.
    The very possibility of negating the penalty for a penalty can and will make the game more dangerous.

  • @jeffreyb341
    @jeffreyb341 Před 5 měsíci +19

    I can't believe im actually agreeing with Steve lol. Yes, this is the leafs doubling, tripling, quadrupaling down on players that'll only help in the regular season.
    Depth is what takes you far in the post season.

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci

      Steve preaches "NHL is a copycat league, teams will always try to copy the recent winner of the cup" Maybe Steve needs to kidnap Larry Tenebaum and tell him about this copy cat thing because it seems like the whole leafs org doesnt care about cups

    • @maruso2221
      @maruso2221 Před 5 měsíci

      It's stars AND depth that takes you far in the postseason. Most teams can do that because their stars don't demand every penny they can get their claws on

    • @adamstewart9104
      @adamstewart9104 Před 5 měsíci

      No, goaltending is.

  • @jeffchau89
    @jeffchau89 Před 5 měsíci

    Oh man, I miss Watch a Leafs game with Stove Dingle, except for those two times when it was watch an oilers game and watch a habs game instead.

  • @jjjobin7124
    @jjjobin7124 Před 5 měsíci

    Sweet end trip
    High on the turn buckle contact

  • @T6E9D
    @T6E9D Před 5 měsíci

    Just dawned on me when they were talking jersey numbers in contracts that 92 is literally his dad's number when he played in the NHL

  • @jefffreese947
    @jefffreese947 Před 5 měsíci +1

    100% agree with Jesse that this is a move the Leafs have to make.
    Also 100% agree with Steve that this team construction is unlikely to work. Look at the last 5 Cup winners, and they all had contributions from up and down the lineup. Just don't see that happening until the Leafs can reallocate JTs money to a couple dmen and a decent C replacement.
    Question for Adem & Jesse: What Cup winning team would you compare this Leafs team to for this year and next?

  • @deecoy1201
    @deecoy1201 Před 5 měsíci

    To Simplify:
    Cap $87.5MM
    Core 5 - ($54.15MM)
    Remaining Cap Space $33.35 for 18 roster spots ($1.85MM per player)

  • @jonjohnson1978.
    @jonjohnson1978. Před 5 měsíci +3

    Outside of matthews nylander is the leaf I'd want most on the team come playoffs, need to trade 1 of the other stars for roster balance

  • @strangeradios
    @strangeradios Před 5 měsíci +1

    Lol, I didn't think of this til you guys started talking about jersey numbers in contracts... 92 was Michael Nylander's number.

  • @alexparadi522
    @alexparadi522 Před 5 měsíci

    What is bonkers about the Nylander contract is the full no-move. I have no problem with signing players for big numbers if you can turn around and trade them.

  • @alexadkins3380
    @alexadkins3380 Před 5 měsíci

    As to say on this episode, good job. Players need paid. Yet I understand Steve's frustration. We all see how it is. In the 90' teams told players walk, or trade them ( their problem to sign'em now). An now it seems like teams are on the ropes, but your analysis of the leafs cap is spot on. They don't want loose these guys, both frustrating and understandable.

  • @MatthewRyanDP
    @MatthewRyanDP Před 5 měsíci

    Cousins needs a visit from the Trouba Train Express

  • @TheAlaskanfrog
    @TheAlaskanfrog Před 5 měsíci +10

    It was wild seeing Jesse and Adam perform mental gymnastics to get around Steve's main point.
    We've heard the story before. They don't have cap space because they've locked it all up and four guys who continuously fail to produce
    And Steve makes an absolutely legit point that having kneelander at this price. It's continuing doing the same thing over and over again
    I'm with Steve 100%. And it was kind of a bummer to see the other guys ignore the real problem

  • @hotdownsouth
    @hotdownsouth Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hey guys,
    Loving all the work you put in and content you’re putting out.
    Would really like to see more in the community get the subs up
    Let’s go guys, they deserve it!!

  • @ChadHryhorysak
    @ChadHryhorysak Před 5 měsíci

    2024: The Year of Steve's Bossman "Get me COFFEE" Phase

  • @9090Glenn
    @9090Glenn Před 5 měsíci +2

    ONLY in Toronto do they CELEBRATE overpaying a(nother) guy who has done Jack Shyte - Nylander "performs" ONLY when its contract season - PERIOD - what the F have you (ever) done for me lately Willie-Boy ? - can I see that string of Stanley's to PROVE you are worth anything more than 5 million a season - NO ? - point taken

  • @Jarenballor
    @Jarenballor Před 5 měsíci

    Steve dangle, meet Joey swoll. Gym positive guy. Great content

  • @michaelrudd1927
    @michaelrudd1927 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s going to be hilarious when Boston brings on Myers for the playoff push because Vancouver needs to cut cap to add.

  • @tyleryt5950
    @tyleryt5950 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think markers defense and chemistry with matthews is underestimated and will be missed dearly if they need to move him. If they do move him they hav to go for a too Dman like top pairing possible#1. Can’t just let him walk

  • @dermkean
    @dermkean Před 5 měsíci

    ‘But enough about Zach Hyman’ 🥇

  • @Dillpickle69420
    @Dillpickle69420 Před 5 měsíci

    Filip Hronek, I drated him with my second to last pick in my fantasy league

  • @Nxrthluvsyou
    @Nxrthluvsyou Před 5 měsíci

    As a Sens fan the Giroux contract is the best signing the Sens made in probably a decade

  • @Chimeratech8
    @Chimeratech8 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I feel like Adam and Jessie are always flip flopping about the core 4. Right now, they talk about them like they're all world players but when they suffer another 1st exit, all of a sudden they need to go.

    • @christanzola8633
      @christanzola8633 Před 5 měsíci

      Adam’s job is to drive conversation, and he’s great at it

    • @Chimeratech8
      @Chimeratech8 Před 5 měsíci

      @@christanzola8633 Sure but that has nothing to do with my comment.

    • @christanzola8633
      @christanzola8633 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Chimeratech8 just meant that I don’t always expect him to be consistent

  • @omfg322
    @omfg322 Před 5 měsíci

    canucks have like 5 ufa/rfa that have been playing really well that I want resigned but that oel buy out is going to hurt. Luckily myers 6mil contract is up and cap is going up so im not worried.

  • @2Jim2u
    @2Jim2u Před 5 měsíci

    Nylander has a Modified NTC until June 30th and now has a guaranteed 8 year contract for potentials...

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph1 Před 5 měsíci

    69 million in total bonuses. What a number.

  • @robreid546
    @robreid546 Před 5 měsíci

    Looks like you better consider the President's Cup as Stanley, now and for the next 8 years.

  • @innominesathanas
    @innominesathanas Před 5 měsíci +2

    Of all the goofy voices and characters that Steve does, nothing is funnier , or more spot-on, than his Ken Daneyko impression. For the love of god, find a way to talk about the Devils again so we can all bask in the glory of Steve's Daneyko voice.

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha Před 5 měsíci +1

    1:04:00 ... Pettersson never said he wasn't going to sign with the Canucks and the Canucks never said they weren't going to sign Pettersson.
    Pettersson said he want to win and the Canucks said they wanted players who were excited to play here. In other words, the Canucks wanted to win to keep Pettersson happy, which means they were not going to rebuild.

  • @jpdemontigny
    @jpdemontigny Před 5 měsíci +2

    I just noticed one thing. How come Nylander is on pace for 120 points and he is only +5?

    • @jchristner82
      @jchristner82 Před 5 měsíci

      Because he has 19 points on the PP which does not award a +

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 Před 5 měsíci +23

    Over 50% of next years cap is going to 4 players. This is why they have no depth. 50% and not a single one is goaltender or defenseman.

    • @ezwelchman
      @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Leafs have the best goaltending in the league if you don’t count Sammy 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @BoyNamedSue4
      @BoyNamedSue4 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ezwelchman Jones gets hot and falls off a cliff.

    • @ezwelchman
      @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci

      @@BoyNamedSue4 the Leafs just avoided giving the 2 worst goalies in the league multiple year deals. And everybody still wants them to go pay a goalie. There are 5 goalies in this league I’d be interested in acquiring. And none of them are available.

  • @michaelhendsbee967
    @michaelhendsbee967 Před 5 měsíci

    Had Marty not played that puck in San Jose, would have even a shutout, I thought it was a goal as soon as he dropped that puck

  • @mr.relaxation2930
    @mr.relaxation2930 Před 5 měsíci

    4 years into this deal it will look like a bargain cap will go up significantly

  • @bellamydrake9343
    @bellamydrake9343 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You have to ask what the Leafs have won with the big four or five? To me this means Marner has to go at some point and Taveras gone after next year. then build around Mathews and Nylander.

  • @anjelabug32
    @anjelabug32 Před 5 měsíci

    ANYTHING on the Winter Classic on Wednesday? Please?
    Still picking My Team for the PWHL! I assume you guys are all Toronto or bust? You could always go for Montreal or Ottawa! (I kid, I kid. I have spent 40+ years hating New York sports teams and I'm not stopping now 😂)

  • @user-wl4lo6vp9j
    @user-wl4lo6vp9j Před 5 měsíci

    How about Jones as a signing

  • @dukem991
    @dukem991 Před 5 měsíci

    a lot of dough hes a stud so happy to have him regardless of cap hit...sell more jerseys to make up difference ...cap oh boy

  • @cryptocode88
    @cryptocode88 Před 5 měsíci

    Well, maybe we pull a lightning next year and we put Tavares on a one year LTIR… load up for playoffs and go on a run

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha Před 5 měsíci +1

    13:00 ... You don't need elite players in the NHL to win. You need an elite centre and an elite winger, an elite defenceman, and an elite goalie.
    Toronto has two of those and less than zero money to get the other two.

  • @you_want_some_gamer8553
    @you_want_some_gamer8553 Před 5 měsíci

    1:40:40 Steve is right why not get the stretcher.

  • @danchesney631
    @danchesney631 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Mitch for two five million dollar D-Men might be a cup team.

  • @trevorrochon6983
    @trevorrochon6983 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Willy getting 13 million lol. Adam his best season is 86 points. 13 is the second highest player in the league and he’s below a point per game

  • @maruso2221
    @maruso2221 Před 5 měsíci +1

    AM MM and WN have all consistently chosen an extra few million over giving the city a real shot at winning for the first time in fifty years. I hope it's been worth it

  • @yodapthd007
    @yodapthd007 Před 5 měsíci +1

    For Jesse's take on jerseys, what if someone gets you a jersey with your name on it as a gift? Is that still cut?

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci

      If someone knew you well enough they'd know who to get on a jersey and know that getting your own name on a jersey is kinda weird.

  • @davidfitzpatrick6535
    @davidfitzpatrick6535 Před 5 měsíci

    1:27:02 Ehhhh that's not necessarily fair Jesse. the Owner of the Sens wasnt "gotten rid of" he died. Melnyk's head was being called for before he died (i lived in Ottawa at the time and oh boy did hockey fans want him gone. so much so some were happy when they heard he died) but he wasnt moving cause I think the NHL doesnt want the headache of owners changing.

  • @michaelagostino3483
    @michaelagostino3483 Před 5 měsíci +12

    In reality, this contract means the Leafs will forever be insufficient on D. Just signing 1 year deals for less than 3 million, just journeymen D.

    • @jjjobin7124
      @jjjobin7124 Před 5 měsíci

      Play for free
      8 years no cup

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci +1

      The cap will be at $100 million in about 4 years Buds they can address the D starting next season

    • @ezwelchman
      @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci +3

      Or they use the 11 million Tavares makes to sign defencemen?? Or the money they pay Brodie, or Samsonov. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @mikehillproject
      @mikehillproject Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ezwelchman People are so short-sighted its hard to call them hockey fans.

    • @CorrionReap
      @CorrionReap Před 5 měsíci

      ​@mikehillproject you won how many rounds in how many years??? Also you are forgetting that in those years players will need raises... lmfao

  • @montanak833
    @montanak833 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Adam saying that people need to move on from Klingberg is hilarious because if Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo signed him, we would never hear the end of it

  • @safejewel2072
    @safejewel2072 Před 5 měsíci

    LFR is gonna be wild if Nylander doesn’t record a five point night

  • @ParamountReactions
    @ParamountReactions Před 5 měsíci

    I think the reason why Jones can play back to backs is because he barely moves in net and it's beautiful.

  • @NorthernfireArt
    @NorthernfireArt Před 5 měsíci +1

    Cousins needs the Claude Lemaux treatment

  • @jjjobin7124
    @jjjobin7124 Před 5 měsíci

    All weed need is a Stanley bong high on leafs

  • @Dtskiiiiiii
    @Dtskiiiiiii Před 5 měsíci +1

    I agree with Steve on this one. Jesse and Adam are straight up caught up in just individual talent or “in a vacuum”…. Except this team isn’t in a vacuum. They haven’t accomplished anything in the playoffs yet they are doubling down on the same team with the same structure. A team that we all agreed back in June couldn’t remain the same. Willy is good but I think they should have traded him or let him walk and have this year be the year they go for it. If they get far…. Great! If not, then they make changes anyway. Now they can’t make changes because everyone with some value has trade protection. Can’t blame fans for not being ecstatic about having more of the same that we’ve had the past half decade.

  • @collynbertin3260
    @collynbertin3260 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The 3,2,1 point system is cool, and i like it. The score a goal and the penalty is over is kind of weird. It gives a reward to the team who took the penalty, and it may make penalties in general less of negative to have, which could potentially lead to increased violence.
    I'd like to see a league get rid of icings being allowed for the team who is penalized.

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN Před 5 měsíci

      that icing thing is stupid because then you really slow down the games and no one wants to spend an NFL or NCAA amount of time because we have more stupid icing stoppages.

    • @cjjulius4138
      @cjjulius4138 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@RandomGuyCDNI get it but what if u had to clear the blue line or the circle instead of center for pk? It incentivizes trying to hold it a bit longer helping offense cause it means the pk can get a change

    • @collynbertin3260
      @collynbertin3260 Před 5 měsíci

      @@RandomGuyCDN I get your point then players would just fire the puck down the ice and take the icing anyways...
      Then maybe get rid of allowing icing but maybe if defending team ices the puck more than once without a proper clear they get a second penalty for delay of game?
      There are ways to stop players from constantly icing the puck. I'm just tired of a penalized team being allowed to have a different set of rules than the one on the power play.
      I'm all for good hits and clean hockey but this mickey mouse stuff needs to stop. Making it harder for penalized players to defend would lead to teams prioritizing a lack of penalties and maybe the league will see a decrease in penalties taken.
      Hopefully with reduced penalties all around the league, maybe it will lead to referees being able to actually ref the game instead of game management.
      Another big problem in the league is the refs not actually calling infractions, they call the calls that are convenient for them for game management and let the rest go. I would say each team could easily have 20 penalties per game with the amount that just isn't called.

  • @BurpsMcGurps
    @BurpsMcGurps Před 5 měsíci

    It is so peculiar to see how Adam has shifted from "guy who defends Dubas to the death" to "guy who defengs BRAD TRELIVING, even the shitty moves, to the death while shitting on everything he praised Kyle Dubas for."
    Literally in a span of 6 months, he made this gigantic shift. I'm sure he's being genuine and not a homer!

  • @danchesney631
    @danchesney631 Před 5 měsíci

    If Rogers was sponsoring a beer league team, their cap strategy is perfect, because beer doesn’t count against the cap.

  • @aaronquiambao8134
    @aaronquiambao8134 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Leafs have 12 players signed for next year. Projected cap space is $87.5 million. The core 4 is going to be making $46.65million. The other 8 players are combined $19.85 million
    The Leafs are going to have to sign/bring up 10-11 players for only $21million.
    UFA: Bertuzzi, Domi, Brodie, Gio, Lagesson, Muzzin, Klingberg, Jones, Samsonov, Murray
    RFA: Robertson, Gregor, Benoit, Liljegren
    Next year's RFA - Woll and Hildeby

    • @jjjobin7124
      @jjjobin7124 Před 5 měsíci

      Long term meternoy leafs

    • @martinpettersson1571
      @martinpettersson1571 Před 5 měsíci

      Muzzin, Klingberg, Murray and maybe Samsonov they'll just let walk.....the three first are injured.
      Gio might retire.
      Ideally they would like to re-sign the rest of the UFAs at the number they are now maybe with a slight raise...or in Brodies case less.
      RFAs would ideally be re-signed at their current number but maybe Benoit an Liljegren need raises.

  • @deltagolavista1
    @deltagolavista1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    57:14 Who's the guy they kept over Lafferty? 4 games of Fraser Mintin. So worth it.

  • @LlamasEatHotdogs
    @LlamasEatHotdogs Před 5 měsíci

    PWHL completely overshadowed the World Juniors for me, I have never cared less than I did this year.

  • @brokesy3515
    @brokesy3515 Před 5 měsíci

    Chicago Blackhawk's All-Star Game representative, Nikita Zaitsev?

  • @ezwelchman
    @ezwelchman Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don’t understand what Steve wanted them to do with Nylander tbh.

  • @nadaduo1765
    @nadaduo1765 Před 5 měsíci

    marner to the pens confirmed, another dubas masterclass 😘

  • @ninjashep5264
    @ninjashep5264 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm 100% on board with Steve Dangle on this one
    Personally I wanted the Leafs to enter a small Rebuild & trade Nylander as the top Rental at the deadline. The team isn't a Cup Contender & they can't win with the group they have
    If they were committed to keeping Nylander & Matthews they should've traded Mitch Marner before he got that Full No Trade/No Move Clause.
    At this point I hope they trade Marner

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha Před 5 měsíci

    57:00 ... Reaves! The Leafs traded Lafferty to the Canucks for a fifth, because they needed the cap space for Ryan Reaves.

  • @TP-oi2ii
    @TP-oi2ii Před 5 měsíci

    As a Canadiens fan, I'm happy to see that Toronto won't win the Stanley Cup for the next few years. How can 4 players have more than 60% of the payroll? I now think we'll have a better chance with a core like Suzuki and Caulfield at 7.9m and Matheson under 6m. In addition we potentially have 4 very good defenders coming in Hudson, Reinbacher Mailloux and Enstrom. :)

  • @dangshnizzle6929
    @dangshnizzle6929 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Pretty fun seeing the revisionism with Lafferty. None of you appreciated him or saw the value in him so really you just owe the guy an apology.