Front Suspension Rebuild Honda Pilot
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- This video is (Part 2) of a series I’m doing with my 2003 Honda Pilot. This series covers the reconditioning of the front suspension, engine, transmission, and subframe on this vehicle. In this installment I cover the replacement of the front wheel bearings, front struts, inner CV boots, front brakes, and cleaning and painting of the remaining components. I also cover engine washing and stud replacement.
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Parts
Struts: 51606-S9V-A06 & 51605-S9V-A00
Top Strut Nut (Recommended): 90213-SJ6-004
Inner CV Boot Kit: 44017-S9V-A21
Front Stabilizer Bushings: 51306-S3V-A00
LF ABS Sensor: 57455-S3V-A02
NTN Wheel Bearing: 510011
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0:00 Introduction
0:35 Engine Wash
2:45 Thread Repair
3:09 Stud Replacement
5:55 Hub Removal
9:39 Front Strut Replacement
21:21 Wheel Bearing Replacement
28:59 Prep and Paint
29:43 Inner CV Boots
34:55 Reassembly
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Puts a smile on my face every time Eric is emphasizing just how much he's enjoying his newly built engine cart. I swear, there's nothing quite like the pride of a person's well built something. Doesn't matter what it is, but it's... dare i say in these times, contagious. :))
Like a kid with a new Lego set....
Well put. Thanks for that comment. You're right, I totally geek hard on stuff I've made. It feels very empowering. It's really great when other people 'get it'. Thanks agin.
@@ericthecarguy When you 'play' at cars there is no time. The same happens to me.
You are a true gem for the automotive nerds. The details, information and a hint of sarcasm is top shelf education and entertainment. Don't ever stop doing, what you do.
I started watching you when I was 19, tinkering around with my personal/friend's cars. Now I am 23 and in the automotive field, doing what I love. I have learned so much from you, scanner danner, Eric O, and many other phenomenal teachers. I just wanted to thank you for all your efforts you put through your videos. I wish you the best and happy holidays :)
Thank you very much for that comment. I never get tired of hearing how my work helps people. I'm glad my videos have helped you with your career. It's an honor. Thanks again.
I’m not a mechanic but I’ve learned so much watching these videos guys like ETCG , SMA , PHAD , soo many more I’ve actually was able too tackle many things on my own car. Didn’t know jack about brakes I ended up rebuilding the entire braking system new pads rotors calibers master cylinder brake lines and booster.
Congratulations on your brake repairs and thank you for taking the time to comment. I never get tired of hearing how my work helps people. Thank you!
23:35 - That was mesmerizing. Now I want one.
A bright young technician, Logan Yerges, came up with that tool and even got it patented. It's called "Quick Race", you can order one from his website: yergesmfg.com/products/quick-race
This guy is who I found back in 2013 to learn about cars lol. On my first tablet Nexus 7 😉. You helped out a single dad save a lot of money and I'm glad to see you are still around. Thank you for all your videos
Gotta love the Elvis clock!
That hip action kept him off the Ed Sullivan show (yes, I know, this makes me old)!
I enjoy this type of video series a lot, you get to see suspension, engine, brake work and the different struggles you go through, like in the field… minus the service writers!!!! Lucky you Eric
Nice one Eric. That engine trolley really is sick
I love that thing.
These are the videos we need to see. Suspension in the world of a mechanic is an almost everyday affair. Learning about the suspension and watching actual professional's perform there work is a bonus. All of these videos are a bonus to someone who makes a living working on cars like myself. I am not ashamed to watch a CZcams video and learn a new procedure or see a new tool in action. I mean this is like heaven. Thank you Eric for your hard work in producing your videos. Great Job!!!!! A Shout-Out too SMA, PHAD, AdvanceLevelDiag, K Diagnostics, Precision Transmission, and so many more of you that are producing good content. We are all United in one goal and that is to live for another day, do the best job possible, and provide for our families.
Thank you very much for that comment. I never get tired of hearing how my work helps people.
I sure like that spinny bearing race remover!
So cool right!
Logan Yerges, a bright young technician and huge fan of ETCG, invented and patented that tool. It's called "Quick Race", I bought mine directly from his website: yergesmfg.com/products/quick-race
hahaha whoever came up with that cool tool is a genius 😀
I have followed your videos for a long time. The best teaching videos I have seen..Thanks
Thank you!
Love the Elvis clock!
This series has been really satisfying to watch. I have an 07 Pilot I bought wrecked and fixed myself, like it a lot
I saw Eric at SMA do something similar today with a bearing race, but he didn’t have the nice little spin tool.
Searched for this comment. Eric O needs one of those taper jigs. His looked an old part that he uses.
Oh, I see ur attitude is always positive n'd a good sense of humor that I like, I give u' 5 🌟 and a warm big thumbs 👍..
Eric and the No good, very bad, almost awful CV joint Day
Best of the season to you Eric and family .merry 🎄 Christmas.wishing your a great 2022
Great viewing for a Friday night 👍
Really nice clean and tide work
Whomever made that cone tool, deserves an award. Fantastic device.
Dude that race contraption was crazy. LMAO someone made that!?
Link in the description.
Eric, i’m surprised you didn’t end up replacing the top hats on the strut!
Me too. I replaced the front struts on my 2011 Pilot using genuine Honda complete assemblies. Much easier and not too expensive. Also did the same (front and rear) on my sisters 2010 CRV.
Always good seing the spindle getting put to use.
Eric, I'm in the process of replacing my 2003 Pilot struts, 202,000 mi. Looking at the parts #'s for the struts and my original #'s (51601 & 51602-S9V-A020-M1) the correct part # for my direct replacement are 51605-S9V-A02 & 51606-S9V-A02, not A06. The A02 shows only for the 2003 while the A06 shows 2003 - 2005. Wonder if that is why the rubber spring mount didn't fit. There is another rubber mount 51402-S0X-A01 listed and it's over $50 compared to $16. Late to the game to change it now but really love this series on the rebuild. Long time fan or your videos. Changed my timing belt etc. based on your original video. Hoping my hours of research on part #'s might help someone else.
i just happen to find it on my notification in the middle of the night
Unique inner cv joint for sure. Thanks for showing us Eric!
I mean THANKS!!! I'm getting ready to do this job on the exact same generation Pilot.
Balls be flyin!
I did watch the entire video. Nothing to comment. Enjoyed the video!
Thanks for watching and for the comment. Both are appreciated.
Awesome job Eric. Love all your videos and knowledge of auto repair and how to use shop tools properly. Thanks for sharing this.
Paper in the socket, genius, I wish I would have known about that doing the starter on my 4.2L vortec the other day 🤦🏼♂️
A magnet on the side of the extension works as well, just take it off before you use power tools. ;-)
I must have missed previous mention of a supercharger. That should make for an interesting pilot. Lots of fun coming out of that strange start. Love that bearing tool!
I talked about it in the intro to this project. czcams.com/video/11nl6FCkr-s/video.html
Thanks for your time
Thanks for your comment.
Another very entertaining video.
can you make a video of how you keep the fairmont stored during the winter months
"Those balls will come falling out. They are held in with nothing but the grease that is in that joint"--That's what she said lol!
When one bearing was crunchy and the other was loose.. I knew you would come around to changing them. lol.. I would have too.
I watched the entire video. I respect the work, innovation, and patience it takes!
Thank you!
Eric: 'here we go' . Rich: 'that's my line!'.
Thank you
Your videos are excellent.
Hello Eric, could you reveal who the guy with that inner race removal tool is? I’d love that!!
Great video!
Piece of paper trick is nice but i like the use of paper towels. The cheap ones of course.
Rats! Just an occasional DIYer here that just did pads & rotors and wheel bearings
& seals (while I had it all apart) on my truck, but never thought to use silicone lubricant
on the slide pins. After packing the new bearings with Timken wheel bearing grease I
continued using it to grease the slide pins.
Be prepaid to replace the rubber boots as they will deteriorate in time due to the petroleum based lubricant. Also, I find that grease dries up and causes the pins to stick on the bore over time. Good luck and thanks for the comment.
That CV Joint looks the same as a Subaru inner joint with the wire retainer and then a snap ring on the end of the shaft.
Thanks Eric. Enjoy winterfest at Kings Island
Great video
Slow and steady wins the race. A few tools help though.
This Pilot is about to be like new again, soon. Thanks for the paper trick with the socket, that hadn't crossed my mind, yet.
I really liked that race tool. Such a simple idea for a quick job
Also Liking that tool, great idea
24:12 that race basically threw itself off!
No matter what.. nicely done my friend. Did the same on my mom's 03 Honda element. Engine/front end replacement.. still running.. ha. Love that homemade tool. Sweet. Gotta build one..
I love driving my '05 after the rebuild I just did. In fact, it's been my daily since I finished it. I love that thing. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy Yeah...ha! And you said you didn't like SUV's....Ha!
Eric you are like MacGyver 4 mechanics LOL🤓👍👍👍
Love all the extra tips. Why I watch your vids till this day
VAG does their CV like that inner and outer are that ball style.
Honestly, now that I know what it is, I like it better. From a serviceability standpoint.
Interestingto see a inner and outer cv joint on 1 side I have never seen that before either working on vehicles for 30 years That's kinda neet Eric @32:28 @EricTheCarGuy
I hope the info helps if you run into one. Honestly, now that I know how it works, I think it might be easier to service than the other style of joint. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy info will defenitly help and I think you are right the design looks like it is a better design for survivability compared to a traditional standred CV Axle
I remember when I replaced the wheel studs on my dad's 04 Venture about five or six years ago. It was actually from one of your older videos, back in your previous shop, that I learned how to remove and replace them. A nice stroll down memory lane.
I got a lot of flack for doing it the way I showed in that video which is why I did it this way in this video. Sadly, I think the wheel bearing was already toast before I got to it. It seems the mechanics that worked on this Pilot before me didn't care all that much or weren't properly equipped. Thanks for the comment.
Oh man it coming along nicely and that tool is amazing 👍🏾
LIke always excellent job, thank you.
good content!
Mr. e.t.c.g a warm welcome to u' well just so ull no I'm always watching ur videos I can imagine working w/ a person like u' I no you've done so many sacrifice to get to where u' I admire u' God blessed n'd family. P.s. I love u very mechanic I do some what I just don't have the place where to I dream mechanic, well enyway keep up the good job so that we can enjoying ur videos.. have a great 👍 lovely day amen.
Great content I love it when a plan comes together!!
Dude, appreciate the videos. Keep them coming. You have a striking resemblance to George Clooney. Maybe dress in a suit one day and entertain us all. But don't shave the beard. God bless ya.
Hi Eric, love your videos. Just finished doing the front struts on my 08 Mdx. What are the torque specs for the middle bolt the holds the everything together?
Being a Toyota guy, couldn't help noticing the "TRD" marking on the cardboard you had lying on the floor. You moonlighting on us?
Anyway, Merry Christmas my man!!
What a fantastic channel you have. I hope to get there one day. I’m loving this #HackHawk Pilot build. On what I’ve watched, there is nothing I’d do different. I like that hub spinner tool. I kind of made one an old 1/2 inch deep socket and extension where you have to keep turning it. It works, but that is a really nice tool.
I’ve started watching your other playlists. Great stuff. 👍🏻
Thank you, and good luck with your channel.
11:58 yeah, me either. But i heard from someone that those are purely for the initial tightening at the factory, and that's bout it. Think of it, like the screws on the rotor, technically speaking, they're just for factory use so the rotors don't fall off on the "train".
I'm pretty confident that the person who gave me this information wasn't messing with me, he's been a technician in factory stuff for cars for years (sets up factory lines, debug etc).
16:42 PS if you have like a piece of thick rubber, glue it on the wall by the spring station and use it to push the shock into the wall. Hurts the hand a little less, also, easier to do because you're using your whole body to push, rather than your hand and shoulder. Old mechanic trick i got taught a few years ago.
edit: done goofed, i meant rotors, not calipers. :))
Yes, I know the screws are for assembly, but they make assembling the brakes easier as well. Especially since the pads on these brakes use springs that you need to compress when installing the caliper.
I friggn LOVE that idea! Thanks.
@@ericthecarguy Oh, i wasn't against them. I use mine too. Cannot be bothered to deal with them falling off or moving when i put the wheels on or as you said deal with the pads and calipers. I actually got that from you, i used to kinda not bother to put them back myself before, but your argument on it was compelling (many, many moons ago).
Thanks Eric for another educating video . Merry Christmas to you and your family .
Merry Christmas to you and yours too!
I completely understand your appreciation for that cart. There is nothing better than a truly effective tool, especially when you're doing physically demanding work.
Honda are so smrt. Really like working on them because they’re a layup.
You know Eric...Scotchbrite is your friend...Just saying, Richard knows what he's talking about there. LOL...
Just did a full suspension rebuild on a 2008 accord v6. Hardest part was dealing with brand new parts that were junk from the factory from supposedly reputable brands. That and figuring out how to adjust Honda steering racks (which made a huge difference as the play was very loose)
I only use Honda suspension parts for that very reason. I haven't found anything in the aftermarket that works or rides nearly as good. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy yeah it's just tough when Honda wants about $4000 for a full rebuild parts
@@melvingibson4525 Right Melvin....$1,160 for set of OEM full struts...$400 min for set of Struts w/o Springs (what Eric installed).
Eric what do you think of a lift kit for the Element? Thanks
Eric,-love the way u work!! Liked u showed strut u had moved, loved u cleaned/painted dust shield/hub. EXACTLY what I would do. If u have it apart, DO IT RIGHT!! U ROCK AS USUAL! 🌲Happy Holidays! 🎅 It's gonna be a whole new vehicle. I live in PA so I KNOW u bust ur butt!!🖖
Thank you!
Just curious on the use of the shop rags. Do you wash and reuse them or do they just get thrown away? I've seen rags advertised as washable, but I'm doubtful about the idea of washing off stuff like bearing/axle grease.
Those inner CV joint is what we call a "cage" axle.. They are a pain to work with when putting back together..
Great video, thanks for making it real.😁
Question: . do the MDX and the Pilot share the same strut assembly fitment? I want to use Acura parts to sharpen the reflexes on the Pilot I now own. I have an 06 model.
I forgot to say over at ETCG1, I hope the move goes smoothly and without incident or accidents. Also, sometimes we all learn most by discovery, once in a while it's great to run into something that humbles us and grows our knowledge, nothing wrong with that all. Or you find a botched repair job that you scratch your head and ask why, lol. Cheers EC and great job and always a thumbs up!
Thank you!
You are a respectable and creative person in your work.. I wish you success man 👍👍
Thank you!
aaaah, the Pilot Whisperer
You seemed to be in an excellent mood, and the refresh/result was spot on 😀
Just an alignment of the new parts and it's never been so good.
Ok when it was new it was nearly as good as your work ha ha :-D
That gravity race removal tool seems obvious, but clever ideas always do.
That race removal tool is a real time saver and so fun to do! It's like having magic powers. Always nice to see you. Have a great weekend.
Thanks for all the great content man, if I had access to a hub grappler or press I’d definitely be able to get this job done. Just did a front axle and driveshaft by myself with no knowledge my lol it was easier than I thought the rust on my 97 legacy outback is terrible but I got the job done. Now need to finish some other work, thanks for teaching me so much about mechanics
Hi Eric which struts did you replace them with?
Hi eric.. thnxs for your videos and they are great but I have a 2003 Peugeot 206 and I wonder it really runs rugh and when it comes to heavy rains it really runs smoothly and i always wondered if it is cylinder head or the clutch or the sensors off but the problem is that the pedals shakes normally when I press the throttle and in heavy rains it really gets really smooth just as good as new could it be of missfire or coilovers? Or injectors?
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I just realized something - struts sort of put off having to do alignment. Interesting.
When pressing the hub back in are you not supposed to support from the inner race?
Yes, it will help prevent what you saw in the video.
pulling the hub out of the wheel bearing still destroys the bearing... no matter what tool you use. The marks on the hub are from a split bearing puller used to remove the race last time. Re: CV boots, I ran my factory original shafts over a quarter million miles on my civic hatchbacks, just rebooted them when they dry rotted and started leaking. Early on, I had one pop back out of the transaxle after a reboot. That taught me that the factory service manual specifies an exact length that the shaft should be after reboot, and the inner boot needs to be inflated so that the shaft achieves that length at rest. Any less than that, and the inner joint can pop back out.
I agree about disassembling hubs, that's why I said that in the video. I got a bunch of flack on the video linked in the description where I showed how to replace a stud without removing the hub. I've never been a fan of removing hubs to replace studs if I can avoid it. I also agree that the people that worked on the Pilot before I did screwed up both front wheel bearings, either in an effort to replace them, or to do something else.
The reason I rebooted the axles instead of replacing them is because I could see that they were OE. In my experience, OE axles are better than just about every reman out there. I do what I can to keep and maintain them over replacing them if they are OE similar to what you're doing.
You also may have noted that I 'burped' the boot before installing the outer clamp in order to position the inner joint on the driveshaft. I cover that in the video linked in the description about replacing CV boots.
Thanks for your comment.
@@ericthecarguy I prefer to use a tool similar to a tie rod remover, to press the broken stud out of the hub, and draw the new stud in with a spacer and lug nut.. that way the bearings don't get bashed and fail prematurely. What you saw of someone else previously banging the hub and and trying to finger more grease into the bearing just makes me cringe at the thought.
I used to try drawing in new studs like that at first, but found that it often damaged the hub, and sometimes the stud. If I'm being careful, I use my press to put them in, but haven't found that to be necessary. The hammer works quick and efficient, no damaged bearings as of yet, especially when the hub has been removed from the bearing. In my view, there are plenty of different ways of doing things. Do what works for you and as long as it's fixed, you're good. Thanks for your comments.
Notification squad!🔥🔥🔥
Eric that clicking tapping tool you have there do have link to it cause I need a better one I don't like mine where you just turn it back and forth
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but I link all parts and tools in the description.
Eric you should definitely show Mr Eric O from South Main Auto that out bearing race removal tool, I think he would 100% appreciate it
He already has something similar. czcams.com/video/zXgjsUoXiXU/video.html
@@Sam_Eassa It's funny, I just watched that video after I saw this one, that's impeccable timing
Lol he cool I watch him too
How does that Eastwood Rust Encapsulator dry? Is it like paint, wax, etc?
Just like paint.
Hopefully you see this Eric, I watch a lot of videos and they’ve given me a lot of advisement on how to fix and handle stuff on my own 2004 CRV- I do auto body but dabble in some mechanic on my one cars. But my coolant temp sensor, my driver side lock switch isn’t working both aren’t working and I don’t know where I can’ start the troubleshooting some help would be appreciated if you have any ideas
Here is a resource that I spent 2 years putting together for people just like you. I hope you find it helpful. www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/
@@ericthecarguy thank you so much man I appreciate that so much
Eric did you install the wheel bearings backwards? Typically the ‘brown’ magnet side is towards the inner for the wheel speed sensor to pick up?
No, you can install them either way. If one side has metal shielding and the other rubber, I usually put the metal shielding toward the outside. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy Interesting, good to know. At the dealer we’ve had a few where they come in installed “backwards” and set a traction light/ABS etc and when switched around will work as designed
Torque for those struts is 80 ft lbs. Make sure you torque them down properly because I personally have had those things come loose on the highway after replacing struts on my Pilot!
Doesn't matter if I torque them, my Allignment guy won't when he does the alignment. BTW, I install camber bolts in a future episode. Thanks for the heads up.
Paper trick alone made this worth the price of admission. Just did sway bar links, lower arms, and steering links on an 07 Pilot. I really wish I had a lift in my garage because I know for a fact all my leak chasing is going to end at main seals because. Because.
27:20 what is that tool/fastener removal technique? Always looking for more alternatives to easy-outs.
Glad you found that helpful. The tool I used was an impact driver. Here's a link to one. www.jbtools.com/lisle-29200-hand-impact-driver-set-with-3-8-drive-tool/
And if it really won't come loose. czcams.com/video/Pwz-NXj5ZIk/video.html
@@ericthecarguy Awesome thank you. It's crazy what you can learn even years into something. Used to be an aircraft mechanic though, they were much cleaner and far less rusty than cars, lol.
If yours has a sunroof can you show how to clean out the drain tube thingie?
I normally use compressed air. czcams.com/video/tecuW9cB-Xk/video.html
Another great video, always look forward to Monday and Friday for new material. The formatting for step selection is GREAT !Love the new tool ( race remover ) . Question does this require acetylene or can you a map torch ?
BTW - the rolled abrasive you used is called Emery cloth.
Thank you for that. I think MAP gas would work. As I said in the video, a lot of people call that stuff a lot of different things. Crocus cloth is just one name for it. Thanks again.
Hi Edward, I've used MAP gas with the tool. Takes a little longer but the race drops right out! You can find the Quick Race tool here: yergesmfg.com/products/quick-race