The Full Telluride Palmyra Peak Experience (Insane 2.5 Hr Hike + Descent)

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • The full in-bounds hike up Palmyra Peak in Telluride, Colorado. This grueling 1,335-foot hike takes over 2 hours to complete-and ends with a high-consequence descent down some of Colorado's most extreme terrain.
    Intro 0:00
    Lower Hike on Groomed Path (5-10% Up) 0:43
    Warning from Employee (20% Up) 1:38
    Dihedral Face (30% Up) 2:44
    Black Iron Bowl (35% Up) 3:08
    Extreme Elevation Gain Begins (50% Up) 3:53
    Capitol Entrance (60% Up) 4:44
    Rock Scramble (67% Up) 5:41
    Upper Terrain Becomes Visible (75% Up) 6:48
    Final Stretches (80-95% Up) 7:30
    Palmyra Peak 9:22
    Descent 10:12
    Final Thoughts 19:24
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Komentáře • 164

  • @Jason-vi8ny
    @Jason-vi8ny Před rokem +64

    'Doesn't seem to be a lot of rock-💥.......nvm' lol

  • @SkiVR
    @SkiVR Před rokem +36

    I'm most impressed by the ski patrol and the sled at the top

  • @zaviwaher9536
    @zaviwaher9536 Před rokem +20

    Looks awesome!
    Big thing to remember if you are coming from lower elevation, do not try to do this on day 1. Spend couple days just riding lift or doing shorter hikes to acclimatize. You can get serious altitude sickness going up to 4000m from the sear level. Crushing headache, nausea etc. feels like you are getting a stroke. Not fun.

  • @arjunski
    @arjunski Před rokem +42

    So jealous, that looks just unbelievable. I think this hike's a bit out of what I'd be willing to do on a normal ski day but I'd love to do at least the Gold Hill Chutes at some point!

    • @SoldAnemone-bv5kb
      @SoldAnemone-bv5kb Před 8 měsíci

      gold hill chutes are awesome for sure chute 10 is almost never open so if you ever see it open do it for sure

  • @Mr._Keeps
    @Mr._Keeps Před rokem +8

    Epic video!! The commentary really made it seem like I was right there with you.

  • @derekmarkovic
    @derekmarkovic Před rokem +3

    I absolutely love this video. Thank you for the beautiful footage.

  • @pinnacleskier0552
    @pinnacleskier0552 Před rokem +13

    Looks breathtaking, in more ways than one.

  • @timothymiller7898
    @timothymiller7898 Před rokem +21

    Your definition of untouched snow vs mine are so vastly different…😅

    • @heartbraden
      @heartbraden Před rokem +3

      Untouched means no tracks at all lmao

    • @kboyle1127
      @kboyle1127 Před rokem +3

      That was the most skied out untouched snow I’ve ever see

    • @backbonz
      @backbonz Před rokem +4

      Dude is oxygen deprived give him a break. Hallucinating is real.

  • @ericd8739
    @ericd8739 Před rokem +2

    Awesome job and a great video. I need to go back to Telluride and do the Palmyra Peak climb and descent, as well as spend more time at the Gold Hill Chutes. Telluride doesn't always have the best conditions, but it is easily the most aesthetic of any resort I've been to, including Revelstoke. Keep up the great work, I always look forward to your videos.

  • @McQzv
    @McQzv Před rokem +3

    0:30 arduous is the word you were looking for. Awesome vid! Hope to get there

  • @josiahsimmons9866
    @josiahsimmons9866 Před rokem +1

    That terrain must be dreamy this year. Already we've gotten so much snow!!

  • @bgw9906
    @bgw9906 Před rokem +2

    great run! I had that same April dump at Snowbird- whata spring!

  • @Sl0thOfficial
    @Sl0thOfficial Před rokem

    This is amazing man, Colorado the most beautiful place in North America!

  • @gabesolomon4887
    @gabesolomon4887 Před rokem +4

    I've only done Palmyra once and I actually poked my head up over the top to say I did it, then went back to the marker where it's a smooth path into the face. But that's me I was just there for the powder not trying to squeeze through 50 mandatory jump turns. Big props to those who go over the very top, you've got much tougher knees than I do.

    • @larryk1865
      @larryk1865 Před rokem +3

      I'm with you. Why climb an extra 1,000 feet for jump turns over barely concealed rocks? I thought the point of the climb was to get to GOOD snow. You got the best. Good call.

    • @mtadams2009
      @mtadams2009 Před rokem

      @@larryk1865 This was a very bad snow year. In a good year I am sure it’s much better.

  • @A-Shitty-Snowboarder
    @A-Shitty-Snowboarder Před rokem +5

    dude, so sick!!!

  • @toddthepanamericanbrooks888
    @toddthepanamericanbrooks888 Před 6 měsíci

    Great job! Similar to some of the hikes I've done in the French Alps at Les Arcs!

  • @daneg
    @daneg Před 3 měsíci

    vertigo just watching you go up. props and a half man.

  • @eriknodland8352
    @eriknodland8352 Před rokem +5

    Lol. I’ve done that hike and I was rolling on the floor with your progress estimates!
    Glad you did this, the telluride experience isn’t complete without it!

  • @neiljones8010
    @neiljones8010 Před rokem +1

    Another excellent video that really captures the challenge of the hike before you do the actual run, thank you! How steep is Palmyra at the to. 40degrees+?

  • @stebolavirus
    @stebolavirus Před rokem +3

    If you go to Beaver Creek - be sure to bring your own food and eat it outside of Beano's Cabin. They love that shit!!

  • @TommyPMTB
    @TommyPMTB Před rokem +3

    Man, I come from mountain biking and I thought the sad, hurt people in the Pinkbike comments were bad. Cool guy skiers put the “have I told you lately how amazing I am?” bikers to shame! Great video. Solid, in control, safe skiing, and 100% positive vibes. Keep up the good work and don’t let the non-contributing zeros get to you.

  • @MOWFWDU
    @MOWFWDU Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @kevinl8440
    @kevinl8440 Před 8 měsíci +3

    "Ankle deep in April! This is insane!"... Anyone from Utah: "Meh"

  • @cherlgolja5402
    @cherlgolja5402 Před rokem +1

    Amazing , I’m living vicariously through you ⛷🎿❄️

  • @maverick114e9
    @maverick114e9 Před rokem +3

    The scariest part is that traverse right as you start on Seniors at 10:37
    Im not the best with tight paths on skis, so this looks scary for me, thats kind of embarrassing for me to admit but that just shows how crazy skiing on Palmyra peak can really be

  • @natefrawg9544
    @natefrawg9544 Před rokem

    Done this so many times, senior's and roy boy are fun as hell.

    • @troxlocogaming1102
      @troxlocogaming1102 Před 7 měsíci

      Whats the big difference with senior's and roy boy?

    • @natefrawg9544
      @natefrawg9544 Před 7 měsíci

      @@troxlocogaming1102 nothing really just what side of some rocks your on

    • @troxlocogaming1102
      @troxlocogaming1102 Před 7 měsíci

      is roy boy much harder or easier to ski than senior's?@@natefrawg9544

  • @wyomingadventures
    @wyomingadventures Před rokem +4

    A backpack sunscreen and water. You can get dehydrated fast at that elevation. That time of year, the snow will get compressed even if nobody has been on it. Even with some fresh snow. Nice job! My nephew has skied there. I've only been out of bounds in Wyoming and Montana. Teton pass has some crazy hike and ski places. Beautiful area!

  • @CadenArmes
    @CadenArmes Před rokem

    What camera do you use? The shots look amazing

  • @bruschi8148
    @bruschi8148 Před rokem +1

    Epic!!

  • @lumac3251
    @lumac3251 Před rokem +6

    Great job with the hike. Many props to ya and thanks for taking us along for the ride. However, it is obvious that you are not from Colorado when you make comments about how untouched the snow you rode was and how light and fluffy the snow was. You had some freshies for sure but most of the run looked moderately cut up and tracked out. Also, if the temps are in the forties and/or it is April, that ain't the light fluffy stuff, lol. Still super jealous though. Great work! Those views... OMG!

    • @jdp11284
      @jdp11284 Před rokem +1

      Was thinking the same exact thing. 😂

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 Před rokem +1

    I am just wondering if you have ever used Boost, it’s oxygen in a can. I used it last year and I am not sure if it helped or not. Looked like a great hike and ski. Thanks for sharing

    • @MidwestPowSeeker
      @MidwestPowSeeker Před 9 měsíci +1

      I used a small can while hiking the Highland bowl in Aspen and I do think it made a huge difference. Just grabbed it from my bag every 5-10mins when I started feeling short of breath and I truly believe it helped me get to the top more comfortably

  • @Enaresbclimber
    @Enaresbclimber Před rokem

    black iron bowl is super fun! Too much hiking to the summit!

  • @dominofive5075
    @dominofive5075 Před rokem +1

    Holy smokes! Do people snowboard from up there too?

  • @JB-rt4mx
    @JB-rt4mx Před 10 měsíci +1

    Try West Wall at A-Basin!! Good Too !!

  • @thomasrossi6358
    @thomasrossi6358 Před rokem

    I sincerely hope you hiked for the exercise and not the snow conditions because come on dude I can hear it in the snow. That sounds like Kant-Mak-M on an overskied 4-inch powder day. I guarantee if you came back 3 weeks after the ski area closed you would be slushing down that thing lol loving life.

  • @danjf1
    @danjf1 Před rokem +4

    Living in New England is a major joy. Low-altitude skiing, large metros close by with all the amenities. And also, lovely camping spots and nature in general. There are also great fishing opportunities as well. But 13,000 foot+ skiing opportunities? No. I'm glad I got to do a fair amount of Rockies, Cascades, Tahoe, and other western mountain skiing when I was younger. Honestly, I don't know if my 40-year-old lungs could take the thinner air of places like Telluride or Crested Butte, or Breckenridge which I was privileged to have skied for four entire seasons. If you have the opportunity to ski In CO and UT specifically I definitely recommend going - if you can afford today's overpriced, well, everything. Have fun! --- yeah you sound like a pretty young guy and getting to the top of Palmyra peak is a nasty hike unless you are prepared; H20 hydrated (no alcohol!) and fit enough for a long steep trek if not, ski patrol is not gonna have fun bringing you down... Thanks for showing us the beauty of the Rockies!

  • @opinion56
    @opinion56 Před rokem +9

    the people without a backcountry backpack carrying skis and poles on their shoulder are psycho

    • @actualstarfish3449
      @actualstarfish3449 Před rokem

      Part of the reason why that ski patroller is up at the top, for better or worse. That level of service doesn't exist in Europe or Japan.

  • @joeg5414
    @joeg5414 Před rokem

    I live near Pagosa Springs. Not far from here... couple hours. 1 hour from Durango. Normally go up to wolf creek though, it's only like 30 min away. I need to get back into snowboarding. It's all I did in college. Then i had to get a job and slowly lost interest

  • @dogwapofthebarnowlbakery3655

    Cool video, but the phase, "Shut up and Ski" never applied more.

  • @peteravolio2695
    @peteravolio2695 Před rokem +1

    Untouched 😉

  • @GwenGreenberg
    @GwenGreenberg Před rokem +1

    Amazing video! Some didn't like the snow. Some didn't like the turns. Actually 99.999% of us would have a better chance of walking on the moon than doing this hike and run. Thank you!

  • @humblegenius5553
    @humblegenius5553 Před 8 měsíci

    Hell of a hike for something so tracked out, can taste the blood in my lungs just watching lol.

  • @dash15yearsago67
    @dash15yearsago67 Před rokem

    16:48 perfect timing 😂

  • @sanguisbibimus
    @sanguisbibimus Před 8 měsíci

    Just look at it!

  • @TheLandscapeGiant
    @TheLandscapeGiant Před rokem

    Sick

  • @ambertudor
    @ambertudor Před rokem

    Great video, telluride needs to put up a poma lift at least a little way up the path, and then it could claim the greatest terrain on the continent (it probably does anyway) and then put up a chair (as u r going down) on the right mtn rib and open some incredible expert runs, wow!!

  • @modymangames9804
    @modymangames9804 Před 2 měsíci

    Do you just do these hikes in your normal ski boots or do you have some sort of special boots?

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Před 2 měsíci

      Normal boots, but touring boots might have been nice in this situation!

  • @sunshinecycling
    @sunshinecycling Před rokem +1

    I've never hiked to ski. Are you walking for 2 hours in your ski boots?

  • @ajlsrv5490
    @ajlsrv5490 Před rokem +3

    Cool adventure, but looks like you needed another foot or two of snow.

  • @calebgonzalez5711
    @calebgonzalez5711 Před rokem +11

    11:15 ofc your stoked but just ski the damn run🤣

  • @slck9404
    @slck9404 Před rokem +1

    May I ask when this was filmed?

  • @nou99094
    @nou99094 Před rokem

    I cant believe there was no wind up there. Is it usually windy or no?

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Před rokem +2

      It can get windy quite a lot. But if it does, there’s a good chance they’ll close off the hike.

  • @runuphill
    @runuphill Před rokem +2

    So... how many folks plan ahead and choose to hike up in lightweight shoes w/ crampons attached? Doing this climb in ski boots seems insane -- carry them in a backpack on the way up.

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 Před rokem +3

      AT boots would be the gear to have. Doesn't seem like crampons would be of much use here anyway.

    • @eriknodland8352
      @eriknodland8352 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, no point to crampons here, when it’s open, boot pack is well established.
      Even though you get the weight off your feet, you still have to carry the boots and have now added to your overall weight…

  • @jeffprostar1909
    @jeffprostar1909 Před rokem +2

    Can you link any turns together?

  • @richrobinson202
    @richrobinson202 Před 6 měsíci

    Double rainbow!

  • @axskifree
    @axskifree Před rokem +2

    Link some turns together brehh😄

  • @JustinUrban1
    @JustinUrban1 Před 5 měsíci

    Unfortunately I feel like I’m beyond my prime to try snowboarding down that amazing run. I could probably make it halfway up lol.

  • @midgetmoney1
    @midgetmoney1 Před rokem +1

    You hiked all that way to hit the most clapped out turns? Sorry but you should come hit some of the crazy shit in the PNW and BC mountains. Not as sunny but siiiiiick terrain. And way more snow.

  • @kylecarscaden3953
    @kylecarscaden3953 Před rokem

    is it steeper than main chute baldy at alta?

  • @Bognerman14
    @Bognerman14 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice run. I would have dropped in at about 95% where it was more untouched. Too many people dropped in from the peak and chopped it up.

  • @HappyBuddhaBoyd
    @HappyBuddhaBoyd Před 7 měsíci

    You should really try Alta and Canyons in Utah. You will have knee deep powder for at least 6 months of the year.

  • @RT-tn4ry
    @RT-tn4ry Před rokem +9

    Sounded real crusty under there , not worth the hike up !

    • @Kirbey
      @Kirbey Před rokem

      that’s how all skiing videos end up sounding lmao

  • @trevorwinnie4280
    @trevorwinnie4280 Před rokem +4

    Dude skis like it’s his first day skiing

    • @snoblitz
      @snoblitz Před rokem +2

      Hahaha right? I thought so too.

    • @MidwestPowSeeker
      @MidwestPowSeeker Před 9 měsíci

      no, he doesn't. He's skiing like a guy who just used 99% of his energy on a tedious 2 hour hike, and now has jello legs, still making it down a 43 degree+ slope.

  • @tandybare
    @tandybare Před 3 měsíci

    you hiked 2.5 hours for a 47 degree slope not even 800 feet of drop at 13K feet? Fun.

  • @ihavenoiqq
    @ihavenoiqq Před 9 měsíci

    what are your gopro settings?

  • @billyobrien2828
    @billyobrien2828 Před rokem +13

    That hike should have made for a better run than sliding down saying what a great insane run and hitting rocks😂

    • @paulroggeveen8211
      @paulroggeveen8211 Před rokem +4

      Hilarious when he's talking about untouched snow at the top where it's fully tracked out and he hits the rocks

    • @snoblitz
      @snoblitz Před rokem +2

      Hahaha exactly! Trying to make himself feel better about all the effort he put in for the sh*t conditions.

  • @misterx2131
    @misterx2131 Před rokem

    I hate you to show us this 😄
    But your video is great, as usual

  • @TestingTesting-tl7pz
    @TestingTesting-tl7pz Před 6 měsíci

    Can I come next time? My partner and I will pay for you to guide us!

  • @davidbrice8238
    @davidbrice8238 Před 8 měsíci

    Heavenly 🙏

  • @adamrichter984
    @adamrichter984 Před 5 měsíci

    How does this compare to the Aspen Highland Bowl hike

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Před 5 měsíci

      Much, much harder.

    • @neumichel
      @neumichel Před 5 měsíci

      Aspen Highland Bowl hike has great reward in regard to time spent hiking. The hike itself is only like 45 min.

    • @adamrichter984
      @adamrichter984 Před 5 měsíci

      @@neumichelYes very rewarding. I just did the hike about two weeks ago, and it took about an hour because the snowcat was not running. Was just wondering how it compared to this palmyra peak hike and was wondering if I could do.

    • @neumichel
      @neumichel Před 5 měsíci

      @@adamrichter984 from everything ive seen about it...its a different animal. the hike is a bit of a beast. the descent (and i only know about the one this guy did) is going to be tight-ish couloir skiing on grippy (hopefully) hardpack. you'll get powder only down on the apron. whereas on highland its powder from the get go. still...its an achievement and a memory to have.

    • @adamrichter984
      @adamrichter984 Před 5 měsíci

      @@neumichel ok, well thanks!

  • @jaredsauber6430
    @jaredsauber6430 Před rokem

    You have to go to Zermatt. We just got back... it's incredible... even better than this.

  • @theoriginalLP
    @theoriginalLP Před rokem +2

    In Europe we climb 400 meters elevation in 2,5 hours every Sunday to get beer and beans at the hut.😁

    • @timothyhaines556
      @timothyhaines556 Před 2 měsíci

      This is 4000 meters in height. Not 1500 meters, like most of Europe.

    • @theoriginalLP
      @theoriginalLP Před 2 měsíci

      So what? You mean it's more difficult because elevation?

    • @timothyhaines556
      @timothyhaines556 Před 2 měsíci

      @theoriginalLP . Lack of oxygen has a huge impact on performance.

    • @theoriginalLP
      @theoriginalLP Před 2 měsíci

      @@timothyhaines556 Elevation sickness starts at 3500 for sensitive people. It's not really a problem with oxygen at 4k.

  • @ticklefritz5406
    @ticklefritz5406 Před rokem +3

    Just look out there! There are hundreds of peaks you can climb and ski for free, and after all that effort you still didn't even summit the peak. If I'm paying $162 bucks for a lift ticket I'm riding that lift from the second it opens to the second it closes

  • @kylewhitney1681
    @kylewhitney1681 Před rokem +2

    Review Taos!

  • @ChengHorn9
    @ChengHorn9 Před 4 měsíci

    I was getting winded just watching this.

  • @djlueck
    @djlueck Před rokem +1

    Untouched? It’s pretty scraped out. Cool that you hiked up but this is not realistically portrayed for CZcamsrs who don’t ski Colorado. It’s April. In a sunny chute with little cover. Folks, just think before you try to follow and ski with friends.

  • @ihave3subs770
    @ihave3subs770 Před rokem

    if this guy likes powder, then he should visit loveland ski area

  • @vvdd903
    @vvdd903 Před rokem +2

    come bro. gotta do better on the initial drop in to the small chute. jk. u doing good

  • @nefariousjohnson8851
    @nefariousjohnson8851 Před rokem

    Next year

  • @christianwestling2019
    @christianwestling2019 Před rokem +2

    Beautiful video!
    But you guys don't have step skin for skis in America? Much better than carrying your skis.
    Also, walking for 2,5 hours in that weather wearing full gear?
    You're supposed to have a backpack/airbag were you can take off layers of clothing.
    Walking and getting sweaty for it to later become cold is dangerous.

  • @jeffreydecker3189
    @jeffreydecker3189 Před rokem

    Sorry but there’s no way I’m paying to do that 😂😂😂

  • @jordangarrison7402
    @jordangarrison7402 Před rokem +3

    Love the video… but more skiing and less talking please 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @skiwithgenerationsnow

    In the Alps they would just build a lift up it

  • @nathanielwaldor2089
    @nathanielwaldor2089 Před rokem +2

    i wish you would just shred the pow instead of stopping every turn to say how good it is

  • @brunobembi5276
    @brunobembi5276 Před 3 měsíci

    Pastorurri

  • @patrickjordan3769
    @patrickjordan3769 Před 11 měsíci

    What a great video! Is PeakRankings the best ski channel?? Like this is you agree!

  • @ronnyron6939
    @ronnyron6939 Před rokem +1

    16:50

  • @snoblitz
    @snoblitz Před rokem +3

    Maybe it’s perspective, but to me the creator probably doesn’t possess the skills to be on that level of terrain. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @MidwestPowSeeker
      @MidwestPowSeeker Před 9 měsíci

      seemed to make it up the hike, and down the slope just fine lol... is everyone supposed to be red bull sponsored to be on terrain like that, or maybe just vigilant and cautious since they aren't very familiar with that particular mountain?

  • @CrazyKarl-
    @CrazyKarl- Před rokem

    Looks like Utah 😂

  • @moneyandtimefreedom3352
    @moneyandtimefreedom3352 Před rokem +2

    Watching your shadow, this was out of your league. All I saw was basic side slipping

  • @pumpkinflipper5751
    @pumpkinflipper5751 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Don’t blaspheme against Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ Amen ❤️🙏🙏❤️✝️✝️

  • @davidbanks6896
    @davidbanks6896 Před rokem +14

    Takes one turn then stops each time.

    • @benblazek3305
      @benblazek3305 Před rokem +7

      And pushes half the snow down the top of the run. I don't consider this skiing at all, side slipping yes

    • @bigsmoke1223
      @bigsmoke1223 Před rokem +5

      This man hiked 2.5 hours just to side slide

    • @holymeto9981
      @holymeto9981 Před 4 měsíci

      @@bigsmoke1223Ski it, you'll change your mind

    • @theread3480
      @theread3480 Před 2 měsíci

      Almost like he just expended 99% of his energy on a 2 hour hike right before

  • @lindseystevewedding
    @lindseystevewedding Před rokem +5

    Dude, ski faster

  • @edwardstrong9117
    @edwardstrong9117 Před rokem

    Beautiful not me

  • @JBrownNYY
    @JBrownNYY Před rokem

    Def worse than climbing to top of Peak 6

  • @timothymiller7898
    @timothymiller7898 Před rokem +2

    You might consider talking less and focusing on your skiing techniques 😅

  • @benblazek3305
    @benblazek3305 Před rokem +5

    Watched the whole video and didn't see much skiing. I saw a lot of side slipping, not carved turns. That terrain was not intended for your skill level

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Před rokem +2

      There was a person right in the middle of the trail for about half the descent (which was very unsafe in and of itself). It would have been dangerous to take it any faster.

    • @benblazek3305
      @benblazek3305 Před rokem +2

      @PeakRankings not as unsafe as dropping into the line with someone in the middle of it. You can't be willing to disregard safety, then claim it's why you pushed all that snow down the face and didn't make any carved turns

    • @eastonwest234
      @eastonwest234 Před rokem +2

      ​@@PeakRankingsYou should have told that guy to move. It was dangerous for him to stand there but it was also dangerous to drop in on him.

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Před rokem +2

      @@eastonwest234 in retrospect, yes. Unfortunately did not see him until after dropping in and rounding the first corner.

    • @actualstarfish3449
      @actualstarfish3449 Před rokem +2

      ​@@PeakRankings Don't let the keyboard warriors get to you. You did something out of your comfort zone that you hadn't done before and were enjoying the emotional highs on the way down. Armchair experts in youtube comments will find endless reasons to nitpick and act condescending behind the comfort of their screens.

  • @edmccaffrey1
    @edmccaffrey1 Před rokem +2

    Stay home and watch you tube! The less people the better.

  • @jamesphoenix1850
    @jamesphoenix1850 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The commentary is so exaggerated, definitely not worth the hike, has this guy just lived on pistes and therefore isn't used to these conditions? Just go off piste and this is what you'll find. The only reason to go up there is for the view.

  • @CountryClubSkier
    @CountryClubSkier Před 3 měsíci +1

    Learn how to ski first.