Nothing special about the case… meanwhile most guns come in a cardboard box. You have trouble past 10 yards, problem with the sites, problem with the barrel locking, you take the slide release all the way out which you shouldn’t do… I don’t think quality guns are your cup of tea.
The soy is strong with this one! Just hit 2000 rds with my P30L V3. After slide lock-back issues in the first hundred rds, it's been flawless ever since. I would suggest one read the owner's manual is one is intellectually capable. And if the manual of arms is too stressful for you, may I suggest that you pursue a less demanding sport, such as checkers or tiddly winks?
I have two guns like yours plus the SK. I have at least 1200 rounds through each one of them with zero problems. I have shot every type of ammo through them. It seems like 124 grain the most but they’ve been 100% reliable.
Usually failure to lock back is because of grip. People dont notice but with the p30s and vp9s people ride the slide release while shooting and wont lock back on last round. The p30 swap for the short release helps, but its mainly the grip. When my cousin shoots my vp9l, hes a lefty and rides the slide release making it fail to lock back. Are u still getting FTE after the 1000rnds? Normally first 250 shots should be 124gr or higher to break in the recoil spring. After that it should run 115gr. GL with the HK
I have that exact problem on my PPQ's, it's me riding the slide release not the firearm. Owning some VP9's here I just wish their paddles were as long as what Walther does.
I’ve owned 5 P30Ls, (still have two) a P30, and a couple P30SKs, along with 6-7 VP9s in various configurations, a couple of USPs and a couple USP compacts so I am speaking from experience when I tell you that your P30L SHOULD work with 115gr ammo for as many rounds as you have through it. I always did a 200 round break in with 124gr ammo and after that I could shoot anything through any of my HKs without issue. I’m surprised to hear you’re having stovepipe issues at 1000 rounds. I would suggest sending it to HK for a look but they don’t like 3rd party parts and will either refuse to work on it or they will change them out while the gun is in their possession. Aside from that, when lubing a polymer pistol, less is more. Try not to overdo it.
I have the p30l v1 as well the break-in procedure calls for the first hundred rounds to be 147 grain ammo mine is flawless other than the floppy right side slide stop/release which I hear is an issue more annoying than anything else does not hinder function in any way will probably just disassemble and put something behind it unless anyone knows of a fix for it? I love my HK family HK 45 45c P30L and USP 40
your thumb was on the slide release, blazer sucks, they recommend 124 but they shoot anything. You must still be riding your thumb on the slide for stovepipes or and limp wrist. The H&K's have been great, all models. Buy a Glock and stop whining.
My 30L doesn't get the love. I feed it whatever I can find, brass to steel, light to heavy, ball to H.P. and it just runs like a champ. I'm feeling blessed.
Okay, I am some random jackass posting on your video, you are the man on the spot. So take this for whatever it is worth. Your grip sucks, you are limpwristing the gun, and you are resting your thumb on the slide release. That would explain literately every issue you are having.
This piece slaps steel at 100 yards. Takes down all the plates in the steel bay, no problems at all, over a 1000 rounds in mine. Mine is bone stock. Using the same CCI blazer ammo. I did, however, experience a few stovepipes. My girlfriend was shooting it.. In the words of J.M., we have a noodler, focus on grip.
I have read about it in some comments that the P30L seems to have problems with 115gr. At least if its to weak. But I have a lot of jams with my CZ75 and normaly its known for beeing very reliable. So they are always exceptions. The two most reliable 9mm I have ever had with no malfunktions is Brownig Hi-Power and Beretta 92. Even a G17 had some.
"The weight of the slide release is pushing itself down, preventing thr gun from locking back on the last round." Yeah no, you're just riding it. My P30L locks back every single time after I train with it, with the long slide release lever. You didn't like the aftermarket sight, which is also a personal issue. I was hitting 50yds target with relative ease, granted it is a DA/SA version (with the Grayguns trigger reset kit). Now mine ran perfect with whatever ammo I fed it, so your case might be special, but it could very well be a training issue, probably not the gun's fault
it´s known for them to work best with 124 grain ammo, but after breaking in mine does the 115 grain trick. you could cut the recoil spring to make it softer as if you would put a red dot on the slide. therefore you also have to compensate the additional mass with a slightly lighter spring.
If you wanted a better shooting gun. Never buy the LEM trigger. It is not a target trigger. Neither is the standard da\sa. But it has an actual sa hammer fired trigger. The LEM is ALWAYS too long a pull.
I feel you in the LEM pain. I have a usp9 tactical and converted it from da/sa to LEM with the gray guns short reset. After 1 day at the range it all came out and went back to stock. The LEM made the break weight go up and the gray guns made the break very rolling. It shortened the reset a little i gues but not worth the cost or the crispness lost in the break. In all i think if your only gun was LEM you'd probably get pretty good with it. Just not for me.
Well that was ....interesting. Full disclosure: I don't own an HK. You purchased a gun made in Europe and designed to be a reliable combat weapon, but you want it dumbed down for Americans (who have this silly obsession with 115 grain cheap Blazer ammo because they want to save a few pennies per round)? 124 grain is not weird or non-standard. It IS the standard. NATO-spec is the standard for combat handguns, as well. It sounds like the majority of your problems stem from you not reading the owners manual. Good job! This video isn't a great review of the gun, but it is a great review of yourself.
While you’re working your slide it looks like it has spots where it’s dragging or catching. Could be my eye. Or could be the resistance of the hammer. If it’s to hard of a recoil spring try leaving the slide locked back while it’s stored.
You shouldn’t be recommending anything apparently. Everything you’re complaining about is you and not the gun buddy. Accuracy, limp wristing, slide release and not listening to break in period. Literally one of the most reliable pistols on the planet. Not knocking your hustle and you’ll learn with time but i will have to say this was a video giving out pretty bad advice. You not liking the gun is fine but blaming it for your lack of skill set🤔
I lock the slide back, on each new gun. And leave it like that for a week or 2. Then i shoot any ammo I want. This is cheaper than running 200 rds of hot Ammo, in order to break in a new gun.
I wonder if HK has a different recoil spring for the P30L that you could get so that you could run the 115 gr ammo better? But with that, as you said, HK has been on the U.S. market for quite some time and they should know that Americans are used to 115 gr ammo and should adjust accordingly the guns they ship to the US. It sucks that you had to put money into a gun that isn’t exactly cheap and still not reliable. In the end, I hope you can get it running. Plus it sucks that for whatever reason it doesn’t shoot well for you. Some guns just don’t jive with a particular shooter. I’ve had that with some of my handguns, and I’ve gotten rid of them; they were reliable, nothing wrong with them but for whatever reason I just couldn’t shoot them like I wanted, not the gun it was me. I’m an average shooter and some guns I just can’t shoot well, and then there are some I do shoot well so I keep those and am confident in them. I have mostly semi-auto striker fired handguns, but I have two revolvers and I shoot them well also. Anyway, best to you. I used to live in NJ for about 10 years but left about 2 years ago, and now live in WV.
Im an hk fanboy, but that is an awful argument. Many modern handguns well below hk’s pay grade can run standard 115 gr range ammo and/or 9mm nato ammo all day long
HKs dont work with 115 grain target ammo. I have a VP9, P30ls and a USP9mm. All of them work perfect with 115 grain defence ammo or 124 grain or more target ammo.
Making a statement like that is not accurate - "Don't work". First of all what does that even mean? In many P30's, P30L's, USPc, USP full size I have never had an issue running 115 gr target ammo. And - I don't "break in" my guns and I've bought many HK's. Typically just take them new out of the box and put a couple hundred rounds through them, often 115 gr. For all the "you have to strip them down and clean from the factory" people never had an issue doing that either. Same can be said for other quality firearms I own. Usually use Federal ammo so that might be a factor.
@@davidr8467 HKs work with 115 grain ammo but not as reliable as with 124 grain or 147 grain. I have tryed PPU and Blazzer brass 115 in my P30l and USP and had stovepipes with both guns. Both guns have more than 10000 rounds thru and were verry reliable. I use original HK springs and mags.
I have shot little blazer brass so don't have much data on it. As I mentioned I shoot primarily Federal with some Remington and a few others as well. I did go for a period of time during the pandemic shooting only Blazer and had not stovepipe issues. Quality of ammo can play a role. My issue with your statement was declaring that HK's don't work with 115 which is not something I or others I know have encountered at all. Not suggesting you didn't have issues. Does not seem to be representative however.
Had similar experience with the short version too - P30 V3 SA/DA... At least I had the same painpoints as you did, was dissapointed - you expect a HK pistol to work no matter what ammo. Not going to practice with Nato +P rounds just so it works ... Ergonomics and usabilty are great, however the quality is not as expected or there is somwthing with dlthe design still not sure, the slide hold open lever didnt keep the slide back on an empty magazine ( still not sure if it was user induced by riding it or not), stove pipes happened all the time and the accuracy past 10m was not great, the groups just started to open up, I feel it can be shot probably better with a better trigger, so I discouraged a friend of buying a P30...agree with your assesment.
This was not a very knowledgable review. Three things of note: 1. You didn't even bother to read the manual! 2. Failure to lock back is usually because of the shooter's thumb riding or contacting the lever. Sounds like using the shorter levers helps to prevent thumb interference. 3. New P30s have a stiff spring to start. That combined with the extra mass of the "L" model may result in malfunctions when using 115 gr range ammo. I experienced this with my P30L. I switched to shooting Speer Lawman 115 gr and had zero troubles after doing so. This complaint sounds like a person buying a sports car and complaint about having to use higher-octane fuel. Ultimately, you may be happier with a Glock. Nothing wrong with that.
Ppl always seem to want to blame the ppl making videos with don’t do this or that or it’s a u problem and maybe it is mechanics sometimes but in my opinion sometimes u just get a bad product whether is guns or tools or whatever.
I love HK Ergonomics, my first gun was an HKUSP 40 Cal. Over the years all of my HK started having major stove pipe problems. I was told that I needed to replace the springs more often. When I looked at the price of doing that in the half a dozen HK guns I had.., I decided it was time to sell them all and buy Glock. They all worked fine, but every 50 rounds or so I get a stove pipe. That was just not acceptable to me. After 15 years of owning Glocks, I’ve never once had a stove pipe. I have also never replaced a recoil spring in any of my Glocks. They all work 100% even to this day. The HK has way better ergonomics but Glocks are much better guns. It’s just the truth.
Nothing special about the case… meanwhile most guns come in a cardboard box. You have trouble past 10 yards, problem with the sites, problem with the barrel locking, you take the slide release all the way out which you shouldn’t do… I don’t think quality guns are your cup of tea.
Spot on. I have a nighhawk TRS and still always come back to my P30L. It's incredibly accurate.
The soy is strong with this one! Just hit 2000 rds with my P30L V3. After slide lock-back issues in the first hundred rds, it's been flawless ever since. I would suggest one read the owner's manual is one is intellectually capable. And if the manual of arms is too stressful for you, may I suggest that you pursue a less demanding sport, such as checkers or tiddly winks?
Spot on. Have some 4500 rounds throught my p30, 3000 through the p30L, and carry p30 l with 500 all +P. My dude gotta lay off the estrogen.
I have two guns like yours plus the SK. I have at least 1200 rounds through each one of them with zero problems. I have shot every type of ammo through them. It seems like 124 grain the most but they’ve been 100% reliable.
Usually failure to lock back is because of grip. People dont notice but with the p30s and vp9s people ride the slide release while shooting and wont lock back on last round. The p30 swap for the short release helps, but its mainly the grip. When my cousin shoots my vp9l, hes a lefty and rides the slide release making it fail to lock back.
Are u still getting FTE after the 1000rnds? Normally first 250 shots should be 124gr or higher to break in the recoil spring. After that it should run 115gr. GL with the HK
I have that exact problem on my PPQ's, it's me riding the slide release not the firearm. Owning some VP9's here I just wish their paddles were as long as what Walther does.
I’ve owned 5 P30Ls, (still have two) a P30, and a couple P30SKs, along with 6-7 VP9s in various configurations, a couple of USPs and a couple USP compacts so I am speaking from experience when I tell you that your P30L SHOULD work with 115gr ammo for as many rounds as you have through it. I always did a 200 round break in with 124gr ammo and after that I could shoot anything through any of my HKs without issue.
I’m surprised to hear you’re having stovepipe issues at 1000 rounds. I would suggest sending it to HK for a look but they don’t like 3rd party parts and will either refuse to work on it or they will change them out while the gun is in their possession.
Aside from that, when lubing a polymer pistol, less is more. Try not to overdo it.
I have the p30l v1 as well the break-in procedure calls for the first hundred rounds to be 147 grain ammo mine is flawless other than the floppy right side slide stop/release which I hear is an issue more annoying than anything else does not hinder function in any way will probably just disassemble and put something behind it unless anyone knows of a fix for it? I love my HK family HK 45 45c P30L and USP 40
your thumb was on the slide release, blazer sucks, they recommend 124 but they shoot anything. You must still be riding your thumb on the slide for stovepipes or and limp wrist. The H&K's have been great, all models. Buy a Glock and stop whining.
My wife was having the same issue with my P2000. She was limp wristing her shots to accommodate for the recoil.
My 30L doesn't get the love. I feed it whatever I can find, brass to steel, light to heavy, ball to H.P. and it just runs like a champ. I'm feeling blessed.
Okay, I am some random jackass posting on your video, you are the man on the spot. So take this for whatever it is worth. Your grip sucks, you are limpwristing the gun, and you are resting your thumb on the slide release. That would explain literately every issue you are having.
As some other jackass commenting, I'd say if his voice tells me anything... you're 100% correct
This piece slaps steel at 100 yards. Takes down all the plates in the steel bay, no problems at all, over a 1000 rounds in mine.
Mine is bone stock.
Using the same CCI blazer ammo.
I did, however, experience a few stovepipes. My girlfriend was shooting it..
In the words of J.M., we have a noodler, focus on grip.
HKs are accurate, You are not a good shooter. You are also riding the slide stop lever. Your gun is not malfunctioning. You are at the malfunction.
I have read about it in some comments that the P30L seems to have problems with 115gr. At least if its to weak. But I have a lot of jams with my CZ75 and normaly its known for beeing very reliable. So they are always exceptions. The two most reliable 9mm I have ever had with no malfunktions is Brownig Hi-Power and Beretta 92. Even a G17 had some.
"The weight of the slide release is pushing itself down, preventing thr gun from locking back on the last round." Yeah no, you're just riding it. My P30L locks back every single time after I train with it, with the long slide release lever. You didn't like the aftermarket sight, which is also a personal issue. I was hitting 50yds target with relative ease, granted it is a DA/SA version (with the Grayguns trigger reset kit). Now mine ran perfect with whatever ammo I fed it, so your case might be special, but it could very well be a training issue, probably not the gun's fault
9mm was originally produced in 124 g so that is standard pressure. 115 is light for caliber.
The grain weight of a bullet has nothing to do with the pressure
you got a lemon....mine works flawlessly
it´s known for them to work best with 124 grain ammo, but after breaking in mine does the 115 grain trick. you could cut the recoil spring to make it softer as if you would put a red dot on the slide. therefore you also have to compensate the additional mass with a slightly lighter spring.
If you wanted a better shooting gun. Never buy the LEM trigger. It is not a target trigger. Neither is the standard da\sa. But it has an actual sa hammer fired trigger. The LEM is ALWAYS too long a pull.
I feel you in the LEM pain. I have a usp9 tactical and converted it from da/sa to LEM with the gray guns short reset. After 1 day at the range it all came out and went back to stock. The LEM made the break weight go up and the gray guns made the break very rolling. It shortened the reset a little i gues but not worth the cost or the crispness lost in the break. In all i think if your only gun was LEM you'd probably get pretty good with it. Just not for me.
Your slide release shouldnt just pull out of yhe gun if your trigger return spring is installed correctly
Well that was ....interesting. Full disclosure: I don't own an HK. You purchased a gun made in Europe and designed to be a reliable combat weapon, but you want it dumbed down for Americans (who have this silly obsession with 115 grain cheap Blazer ammo because they want to save a few pennies per round)? 124 grain is not weird or non-standard. It IS the standard. NATO-spec is the standard for combat handguns, as well.
It sounds like the majority of your problems stem from you not reading the owners manual. Good job! This video isn't a great review of the gun, but it is a great review of yourself.
While you’re working your slide it looks like it has spots where it’s dragging or catching. Could be my eye. Or could be the resistance of the hammer. If it’s to hard of a recoil spring try leaving the slide locked back while it’s stored.
You shouldn’t be recommending anything apparently. Everything you’re complaining about is you and not the gun buddy. Accuracy, limp wristing, slide release and not listening to break in period. Literally one of the most reliable pistols on the planet. Not knocking your hustle and you’ll learn with time but i will have to say this was a video giving out pretty bad advice. You not liking the gun is fine but blaming it for your lack of skill set🤔
So when your TLR battery dies would be the perfect time for night sights! ;)
Got the exact same case, for the exact same reason. Mine is .40 and I think I'm up to 15-13rnd mags, but I share them with my USPc.
Go buy yourself a hi point and enjoy
Just get a usp and you will stop complaining.
I lock the slide back, on each new gun.
And leave it like that for a week or 2.
Then i shoot any ammo I want.
This is cheaper than running 200 rds of hot Ammo, in order to break in a new gun.
Wouldn't it just be quicker to work the slide a couple hundred times while watching TV?
I wonder if HK has a different recoil spring for the P30L that you could get so that you could run the 115 gr ammo better? But with that, as you said, HK has been on the U.S. market for quite some time and they should know that Americans are used to 115 gr ammo and should adjust accordingly the guns they ship to the US.
It sucks that you had to put money into a gun that isn’t exactly cheap and still not reliable.
In the end, I hope you can get it running.
Plus it sucks that for whatever reason it doesn’t shoot well for you. Some guns just don’t jive with a particular shooter. I’ve had that with some of my handguns, and I’ve gotten rid of them; they were reliable, nothing wrong with them but for whatever reason I just couldn’t shoot them like I wanted, not the gun it was me. I’m an average shooter and some guns I just can’t shoot well, and then there are some I do shoot well so I keep those and am confident in them. I have mostly semi-auto striker fired handguns, but I have two revolvers and I shoot them well also.
Anyway, best to you.
I used to live in NJ for about 10 years but left about 2 years ago, and now live in WV.
HKs are designed to fire full power 9mm NATO loads,, not the crap ammo you where shooting.
Im an hk fanboy, but that is an awful argument. Many modern handguns well below hk’s pay grade can run standard 115 gr range ammo and/or 9mm nato ammo all day long
Where did you get your extra mags at?
Did it come with those sights?
That weight that you have on your recoil spring is not factory right? I think it should only have the nylon cylinder on it.
That is what the gun came with. I did not change that
The L has the metal/nylon buffer. The regular 30 and SK have the nylon only .
I looked through the manual and it doesn't say anything about ammo other than to use SAAMI spec ammo.
HKs dont work with 115 grain target ammo. I have a VP9, P30ls and a USP9mm. All of them work perfect with 115 grain defence ammo or 124 grain or more target ammo.
Making a statement like that is not accurate - "Don't work". First of all what does that even mean? In many P30's, P30L's, USPc, USP full size I have never had an issue running 115 gr target ammo. And - I don't "break in" my guns and I've bought many HK's. Typically just take them new out of the box and put a couple hundred rounds through them, often 115 gr. For all the "you have to strip them down and clean from the factory" people never had an issue doing that either. Same can be said for other quality firearms I own.
Usually use Federal ammo so that might be a factor.
@@davidr8467 HKs work with 115 grain ammo but not as reliable as with 124 grain or 147 grain. I have tryed PPU and Blazzer brass 115 in my P30l and USP and had stovepipes with both guns. Both guns have more than 10000 rounds thru and were verry reliable. I use original HK springs and mags.
I have shot little blazer brass so don't have much data on it. As I mentioned I shoot primarily Federal with some Remington and a few others as well. I did go for a period of time during the pandemic shooting only Blazer and had not stovepipe issues.
Quality of ammo can play a role. My issue with your statement was declaring that HK's don't work with 115 which is not something I or others I know have encountered at all.
Not suggesting you didn't have issues. Does not seem to be representative however.
Had similar experience with the short version too - P30 V3 SA/DA... At least I had the same painpoints as you did, was dissapointed - you expect a HK pistol to work no matter what ammo. Not going to practice with Nato +P rounds just so it works ... Ergonomics and usabilty are great, however the quality is not as expected or there is somwthing with dlthe design still not sure, the slide hold open lever didnt keep the slide back on an empty magazine ( still not sure if it was user induced by riding it or not), stove pipes happened all the time and the accuracy past 10m was not great, the groups just started to open up, I feel it can be shot probably better with a better trigger, so I discouraged a friend of buying a P30...agree with your assesment.
This was not a very knowledgable review. Three things of note:
1. You didn't even bother to read the manual!
2. Failure to lock back is usually because of the shooter's thumb riding or contacting the lever. Sounds like using the shorter levers helps to prevent thumb interference.
3. New P30s have a stiff spring to start. That combined with the extra mass of the "L" model may result in malfunctions when using 115 gr range ammo. I experienced this with my P30L. I switched to shooting Speer Lawman 115 gr and had zero troubles after doing so. This complaint sounds like a person buying a sports car and complaint about having to use higher-octane fuel.
Ultimately, you may be happier with a Glock. Nothing wrong with that.
Ppl always seem to want to blame the ppl making videos with don’t do this or that or it’s a u problem and maybe it is mechanics sometimes but in my opinion sometimes u just get a bad product whether is guns or tools or whatever.
I have the same p30L and I run 115 and 124 thru it and I've never had a problem. U Just have a bad one unfortunately.
I love HK Ergonomics, my first gun was an HKUSP 40 Cal. Over the years all of my HK started having major stove pipe problems. I was told that I needed to replace the springs more often. When I looked at the price of doing that in the half a dozen HK guns I had.., I decided it was time to sell them all and buy Glock. They all worked fine, but every 50 rounds or so I get a stove pipe. That was just not acceptable to me. After 15 years of owning Glocks, I’ve never once had a stove pipe. I have also never replaced a recoil spring in any of my Glocks. They all work 100% even to this day. The HK has way better ergonomics but Glocks are much better guns. It’s just the truth.
Dude you don’t need to do gun reviews. You’ve got no idea what you’re doing or talking about.
Literally every issue he complained about was self induced 🤦🏾♂️
Limp wristed 😂
Should have left it alone instead of putting your own parts in it.