2022 Ducati Multistrada V4 S | Trying To Change Perspective
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- The past Multistradas were sport bikes in disguise, Ducati is trying to change this.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:50 New
2:47 Competition
4:28 Powertrain
5:34 Chassis
7:55 Ergonomics
10:54 Controls & Display
12:00 Real ADV?
13:40 Verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
This man is a gem on CZcams. I hate to use this cliche but this man deserves more subscribers. I’m sure he doesn’t care so much about that. great content. Thanks Scott!
Totally agreed on this! His honest reviews are really helpful. No bling-bling, just true verdicts through the eyes of a very experienced rider. 👍🏻
Thank you very much for your kind words.
I started this channel simply because I love motorcycles and I was tired of watching guys yelling, hard rock music, bling bling bling, and just simply advertisement videos for the OEMs. Now 4 years later I am still going and just added Ducati to the stable of OEMs 👍😁
Thank you for your support and all I ask in return is to just keep watching, that's it.
take care & stay safe,
Scott
I'll not agree with you, he seems like he doesn't rly know what he's saying and that type of men with his own beliefs. Just to begin with, V2 engines are very well known for reliability. I've looked at his reviews ... I find them lame. This is the reason why I'll never subscribe, he seems to have a disability when he speaks.
@@danut19841 You have got to be at least partially Dutch lol.
So it only took a year and a half to get a real, unbiased review from someone. Kudos to you.
As an ex-owner of a Multi V4S, I'm with you on the engine being a bit jerky below 4k rpm. It is smooth by Ducati's standards, but I'm surprised every single journalist who got invited at the press launch failed to mention it... And I'm really glad you're touching on the off-road at the end, and the eye-watering cost of a simple tip-over.
and at the sales shop they say "hey its a motorcycle," and "or its the California emissions fault" ( though its Euro 5). In 2023 a $30k+ bike with niggles like stalling and surging, is "just the way it is". What happened to you pay for quality and superior design.
@@jr.6199 did anyone mention stalling or surging? Is it $30k?
People ride differently - if it was me, I sure wouldn't be in 6th gear on those roads - probably not out of third. It is a motorcycle engine, it is a 4, it does like revs. I'm sort of puzzled that it is limited to 10k rpm.
@@anxiousappliance i mentioned those niggles, as other owners have. A remap fixed some stalling and yes the bike IS $30k in my country.
You see this is what I like about you and your channel Scott, you are very accurate and don't miss anything which is what we're all looking for in a review ! Great as always ,thanks Scott ....Stuart ( the mad Yorkshireman)
I can’t find a V2S or a V4 Multistrada anywhere around these parts.Scott’s channel is as close as I can get! Thanks Scott!!👍🏻
Scott, thanks for the video! It would be a great to compare the value of this to the MS V2S. Looking forward to the V2 video!
Thanks, the Multi-V2 S video is coming out next week Tuesday. It's really the same as this just smaller/less money/lighter.
take care,
Scott
Now next week 😁🙄
Bike looks so premium, even the plastics on it, as always nice review
Excited for the V2 review!
I really like your tables, putting things into perspective.
You always present, talk, Excell and do your best like there's nothing to prove 😁 I salute you and your charisma all day my man. Love & Respect.
Really informative video, even though I only have a Vstrom 650 I enjoy watching whatever you test ride and review. Cheers!
Great review for a great piece of machinery. I have driven one of this, and I find her more like the S1000XR than the R1250GS, which I have. Anyway, I’m in love with this Ducati
This is , as usual, as great review where we can learn the facts, good or bad, on any bike.
When I'm watching reviews i always watch yours first, love your content!
Thank you! Well done.
If I would go "adventure", I would never look at these machines with their heavy weight and giant size. But that's me!
You don't let the sexy bikes fool you, which is the key. That thing LOOKS fantastic. My friend has the last-gen version. He loves it. I've ridden it, a super rowdy bike on the road.
Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Scott. Yea, race horses look good, perform well but with that comes the "living with it day in and day out" that's where this does not do so well...at least for me.
take care,
Scott
I demo rode a V4S Sport MS in July. Highly impressed with it. Loved it. Bought it. Most rowdy fun motorcycle I’ve ever owned, and I currently have 21 bikes in my collection. No, it’s not a hard core ADV bike, but I have a tricked out ‘17 Super Tenere and much modified Suzuki DR650 for that. I do take it down gravel roads, and some light two track trails. No mud, tho.
This was a short review, and you failed to cover some of the more advanced tech. How all the electronic driver aides are adjustable.
I have my abs set to 3 and the front Stylemas grab like a race bike. Maybe the mid ‘22 models have better pads? The rear brake doesn’t.
I liked your racehorse/Clydesdale metaphor. I agree with that. 👍
I also agree that it’s not the best ADV bike at all, but a great all-around rip roaring bike. Place it in Dynamic, and let the wheelies begin!
At 6'3" I found the ergonomics surprisingly cramped. Just could not convince myself to buy one for long rides.
Best regards from Barcelona!
bathelona
You are not afraid to say that you would not buy an expensive motorbike. Wow. What a breath of fresh air in an often unbearably grovelly segment. I still want the bike! Thanks for the review :-)
Thanks! 😃
Was absolutely blown away by this bike! Dream bike for me now, like a mix of S1000XR and R1250GS. Mileage is poor yes and price is high but wind protection, suspension, engine, perfect.
Also want to try new Tiger 1200 to compare.
The Muti is a dream bike for sure! Especially that new iceberg white color.
Thanks for your thoughts. You are very good at this. Nice natural style. 👍🏻
At 6'2, I found it to be a comfortable bike and the suspension was happy even with a passenger on my test ride. But agree with you, it's not really a dirt road, gravel road machine. I can't see myself trundling along for hours in first and second gear with this engine. But I think it would be an excellent highway machine if performance was your premium and presents a very good value in terms of scheduled maintenance costs compared to the BMW.
Good review again.... I much prefer low rev Torque before high power any day of the week and that means i still have'nt found a replacement for my BMW R1250GS...
I will how ever testride the KTM 1290 SAS and SAR (Again), Two different Tiger 1200's, Yamaha T7 and Ducati Desert X in 2 weeks and maybe, just maybe i will find a replacement there even though i doubt it. The Tiger 1200 Rally seems to be the biggest competitor of the bunch though...
Love your honesty mate. Good stuff!
It took me a week to decide between the Multi and the Triumph GT Explorer. The Triumphs brakes are so much better than the Duc's, why who knows. Dealer network better comfort and shaft drive drove me to the Triumph but I still think about the Ducati every day.
Yeah, I think you nailed it! I test rode one and thought that as an adventure bike it has its shortcomings. What I really liked was the motor (but not as an adventure bike, more like a spicy upright bulky bike!), the tech, the wind protection and the handling although the speed that you can carry can catch you out when approaching a bend. It's a Ducati, it's sporty, it's beautful. But for me it's too much for a bike in this sector.
Yep, you summed up the bike perfectly! 👍😁
"a quickshifter will always make you smile unless you're on a BMW boxer" - dude, I felt that. The GS is absolutely RUINED by that engine platform. Hence why a bought the ducati instead :)
Keep it in sport! Great video 👍🏼🔥
Quite interesting watching you ride the same roads as I sometimes do. I actually live about half an hour away in Rheda-Wiedenbrück. English guy watches North American guy testing italian Bikes in Germany. That's bizarre. :-) A more "off road" Bike would be the multistrada enduro . . . which I have (2018 model).
Good review, I like your comparison sheet, very nice. Good job. The only thing I like to see added to your videos is the ergonomics when you are seating on bike from side at parked , not while driving!! Thanks
I do that in the Sound Only video :)
@@NothingToProve most people buy these adventure bike for it’s ergonomics and long ride comfort!! I always look for seating position in a video clip!!
You miss understood me, I put me getting on the bike and pulling away in the "Sound Only" video.
czcams.com/video/JKKt5pXPGyY/video.html
So, I did do as you asked above 👍😁
Great review Scott. 👍
Fair video! Thank you!
great review welldone scott
Appreciate the honest review brother. In your opinion, would this V4s be more comparable with the BMW S1000XR due to it's more road focused and sportier nature? Thanks again Scott, and looking forward to your review of the MS V2s. Ride well mate.
Yes, 100%. It's just like the XR but the XR does not pretend to be an ADV bike. That's why BMW calls it "X"R, the name says that it's some where in between. But the name "Multistrada" kind of does too...so...hmm...🙄
Sehr schönes Fahrzeug - danke fürs zeigen 👍
Please upload the V2 video super fast 🙂. Have been watching this series and something tells me that the V2 is going to be the best of all worlds/bikes.
330mm front disks. I have found that the ABS set to default can make the Brembos feel as if the disks are glazed. Taking the ABS down to a lower setting then gives me the 'bite' I'm accustomed to on Stylema brakes.
Top review, Scott, very sincere! But I'm surprised! In the press this bike is represented as the first real GS-killer, but it's a complete different kind of bike with a different character. High rev, little torque, a no go for adventure riding indeed. More a sport-touring like the 1000XR. I guess you will like the 950 V2 more!
Thanks Larry, imho, it's the closest Ducati has to an ADV bike but they still need to work on it some more to get there with the others in the group.
take care,
Scott
not so little torque, LOL -but yes, you might actually have to shift occasionally.
Great bike, excellent review and great Vulcan greeting. Only guys of a certain age will remember Spock saying that.
Yea, I was wondering just how many guys will catch that 😁🤣
Great video bud
Of course another good well-done video👍👍 I’d be curious out of that list that you showed of all the bikes in the segment, which one would you pick?
The GS is the easiest to live with on a day to day basis. 👍😁 That's the bike I'd put my money on.
Hi, nice video and calm tone!
I have a Hypermotard 950SP that I love but I cant do long miles with it, Im looking for something more confortable (riding position, windscreen, heated grips etc). Im used to ducatis caracter so I Im thinking about to purchase a V4S with some miles or discount.
My problem, Im tall, 198cm. I tested a old multi 1200 2012 and felt it too “compact”, tall fotpegs, so my knees bends too much, and my head to close to the windscreen.
I tested a africa twin 2022, and it was super confortable for my size, riding position etc, but the engine power and the price.. for the same price I can but a V4s.. do you think it would suit me with these new geometries? Sorry for the long text 😅
I was looking hard at purchasing this bike last year, but couldn’t get over the horrible gas mileage and lack of range.
Get the 950S/V2, that's what I did and I love it.
Got the V2, better road bike having tried both, waiting on delivery😆
Japp, that‘s a real drawback IMHO.
@@ferociousfrankie That was my plan, too. I tested a 950S, great comfort, great suspension, enough power but I really hat serious issues with the quickshifter. It needed a lot of attention and exact shifting otherwise it refused the shift completely or I ended up in „neutrals“ between each gear. Not what I expected.
@@Thorsten_Kueppers I don't have this problem on mine, but I've read some reports on it. Mine is a 2020.
The Multistrada, XR and superduke gt (like the versys who is in the comparison) are sportstourers for big people, not adventure motorcycles imho. With my 1.90 m and 117 kgs my XR is the perfect long range bike, and it allowes for some sporty pleasure.
When i get of XR, i always have a big grin on my face. I tested all the boxers and they feel like my Massey Ferguson.
I ride ± 30 000 kms a year, all year round to and from work in the Brussels area. (on Metzeler tyres)
Do you have the latest model 2020+? How is the quickshifter and clutch feeling?
one sexy looking machine but with to many just OK features for the brand and price in my opinion, ohhh maaaan she is a looker, cheers V!
👌great bike. i Will buy one. Ducati is the 🔝
Honest video... like very much
Pikes Peak remaining. It is going to be a very nice review?
Hi Scott, what is your opinion about the quickshifter on the BMW 1250 gs 2022 which I have just taken possession at the dealer. Thanks for your work. 🏍
Well, on my 2021 1250 RT it works well at full throttle but everywhere else it's kind of clunky. 1st to 2nd is always a huge clunk unless at full throttle. Which on these bikes is rare to use 100% throttle, so just use the clutch there. 2nd and up at 30% throttle (which is normal for me) is ok, diffidently not the best but it works. BMW say it's the boxer motor, being a twin and so big but then I ask the question, well, what about Ducati, Triumph, KTM, Honda...etc, they don't have the same clunkyness. Then...no answer.... LOL!
take care,
Scott
What do you use for navigation? Which app is it?
It's Ducati's own app.
Scott, now that u have the rt1250, what do u think by comparison for round same $??!!
I'm seeing the RT better all around??...but love the 170hp...
Let's see, the RT has better: wind protection, brakes, low-down torque, lower center of weight, no vibration, connectivity, TFT, the list goes on and on. But it's really not fair to compare an ADV to a Touring bike. The Duck is just rough around the edges when compared to the RT, almost agricultural or KTM like. This compares better to the KTM 1290 SAS, there now that would be a good video...hmm...🤔
After riding this and the tiger 1200 what would you go for? I have an Africa twin as es dct and am looking for something with more power! These 2 bikes were on my list.....I'm resistant to the GS and there are so many around
Oh, no question, the Tiger GT or Rally. The Multi is just great to look at like a Ferrari.
@@NothingToProve thanks for the response. I enjoy your reviews
Its was all about the HP but I believe we will get back to reality with the weight factor the 900 in my real world for a true adventure bike is even to much for me kudos to the guys that can take those 1200s and ride them anywhere they will go The desert x or norden 901 are what I consider an adventure bike adventure is subject to opinion maybe the pikes peak
Consumption kills the buzz of V4 in my opinion.
Price?
Alot lol over 26k USD
I always love hearing you laughing on every bike and every video!Please testride cfmoto 800mt touring...
Great bike but I preferred the V2S, waiting on delivery. With the V2S you can use more of the bike if that makes sense, fuel consumption of the V4 is much heavier too. Ducati are making some great bikes given their fast rising sales figures😀
Then Pikes Peak is where the motor belongs and the one I have ordered. Way too much money and I don't care for someday I will die and it won't matter. I'll get full race exhaust and associated ecu tuning which will help it not chug at 3000 rpm and gives a nice boost down there. It will run as Ducati intended. Euro 5 doing no bikes any favors in low speed drivability. My 5 KTM 1290s in various form also don't like below 3000 rpms but I can't imagine why I would ride a bike below 3000 rpm range in any situation. I'm always sawing at the throttle on my bikes to FEEL the G forces--it's why I bike.
Little bit harsh Review Scott..
NTP
RIDE LIKE THERE IS NOTHING TO PROVE!!
Harsh or honest? You'd prefer he does like everyone else and say it's the best bike ever and everything is great? Nah I'll take honest thank you.
Give me low end tork anyday. Gs would seem better,but being here in Canada bmw dealers not so plentiful as in Europe. 20,000 kms valve adjustment scare me for the cost unless you learn to do yourself. The sim thing 😯,may have to ride hog little longer. 🤓😎🏍💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
IMO the only Ducati that's worth it is the Diavel, and for the design only.
I miss my XDiavel
yes, my buddy's recent model was in the shop with down time off and on for 2 years.
because you need to shift down a gear
Yea 4th was too high for the speed he was going while he was in town
this is beyond gearing...
no.
@@jr.6199
Unfortunately. If you ask any real adventure nut.
If it isn't shaft drive then it's a no go.
sorry but shaft drive has nothing to do with adventure. It is more a personal choice. I had both. I also talked with riders who traveled the world and had broken shaft drives, and since then none of them is driving with this type of transmission. Everyone has its advantages and disadvantages.
@@MrPaulo1400 I've traveled extensively and depending on the terrain I'll decide on shaft or chain but I tend to use shat more on the heavier bikes.
How do you repair a shaft drive in the rural out reaches of the world? A chain you can repair replace just about anywhere and with little assistance.
@@jr.6199 I've had Front Cog literally Shere off the engine.
All 4 bolts shered off.
You won't fix that.
Hence! I'm a shafting kind of guy
@@parasinthephilippines if you live your life based on anecdotes, it will get so weird you wont be able to walk out your front door. Science matters. If you could site some stats maybe you have something there.
veeeery expensive
I think you answered yourself."Would I buy this" No....Enough said.Thanks.
I evaluated both this bike and the R1250GS. Went with the German wife instead of the Italian mistress…
So did I 👍😁
traded my 1250 GSA for the v4s, ive owned many bikes the v4s is the best period
Audi with two wheels . . .
A face only a mother could love, the Ducati, not Scott 👎 An expensive Akrapovic that sounds like a tin can 👎 Brembo brakes which don't actually brake 👎 Power that only kicks in in the upper rev range 👎 Fuel consumption similar to a tractor 👎 An Adventure bike which doesn't take you on an Adventure 👎 That'll be Triple Two thumbs down from me, my ZZR's probably got more off road potential 😀
🤣🤣🤣 yea probably 😢
@@NothingToProveThanks for your reply, it seems like that engine belongs in a sports/track bike, oh wait, that'll be the Pannigale V4, now there's a BIKE!!
Is 4 k the upper range? Sounds like a GS rider...driving the bus.
Its like the F900XR on steroids.
Haha what.
urm, It really isn't
It's like the F900XR if it was a twin, smaller, lighter, less powerful, less torque, better MPG. So very similar.............................. ;)
@@Ndeasington ..and boring.
how bout this for a perspective.... do ducati make amazing bikes? yes they do. do ducati race team get sponsorship from mce insurance that have gone bust and owe their customers a lot of money (not to mention writing off their customers marginally damaged bikes as write offs and then selling them on ebay)? yes they do.