Off Road Head To Head: BMW 1250 GS Rallye vs Ducati Multistrada V4S + The Orange Option.
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Here's our off road head to head with the BMW GS 1250 Rallye and Ducati Multistrada V4S, with some added KTM for the hooligans.
We know these bikes are all about off road, se we'll be doing a full on road head to head very soon. What's your winner?
#BMW #Ducati #KTM
Check out the full reviews for all the bikes included in this head to head:
BMW GS: czcams.com/video/Ajq-K2haEmI/video.html
Ducati Multistrada V4S: czcams.com/video/fPaRXNQ980o/video.html
KTM 1290 Super Adventure R: czcams.com/video/F1UdCuDudA8/video.html
I have to say Chris, you have to be the best, most thorough, genuine, knowledgeable real world reviewer out there. Balanced, informed, knowledgeable, asking real world questions, and answering honestly and without bias. Even funky stuff like that Harley Electric thing, you went in open minded, and gave it an honest chance and an honest review. A true credit to the biking world, and to bike journalism.
I genuinely do love Chris videos. Always so well thought out and backed by a lot of testing and research. 🤘🏻
8:05 I daily my Multi all the time, and ive dropped mine on a steep mountain pass with no crash bars. I have radar. That bike is a trooper! Nothing broke and it took 5 MEN to get it back up because of how steep and narly the fall was I was shocked. My radar and cruise has worked fine since then and that was months ago. Sure he has a few scrapes but damn! Nothing broke.
Not really an off road/adventure guy, but stayed to watch the whole thing-cracking review.
Thanks!
This dude is whipping both these bikes with more skill than 99.9 percent of the public
I did 24000 miles on a 2018 1260s multistrada it was 100% reliable for 20000 miles but then the suspension started to sag and bottom out front and rear also started using a lot of oil.
Was on extended warranty but Ducati not interested in sorting saying skyhook not serviceable very poor backup service expect to wait weeks for repairs/parts. Traded for a new 1250 gsa so far very pleased the shaft drive is a massive bonus for big miles and off road use which rarely gets mentioned.
I look forward to every review by Chris and I'm never disappointed. These are my favorite videos on CZcams.
Ducati still has that reputation, our group took off for a coffee ride, and our friend who has a STREETFIGHTER V4s Almost new, suddenly ABS Light Came on. and then quick shifter malfunction came after that. LOL
Finally someone that addresses correctly the myth of "cant take them off road...too big, too heavy..." thanks Chris, short and simply very well responded, awesome video! 👍👍
It's not really off road, that's just blasting along gravel roads with a bit of mud.
Haha I agree. But if I could afford a v4s, I could alongside it also afford a Super Tenere 7, that would likely be the best choice. 💥 Cheers from Toronto.
You guys are the best motorcycle publication Period. Thank you for explaining what an adventure motorcycle is. Thank you for also acknowledging that a motorcycle isn’t going to break down just because it’s not made by the Japanese. Thank you for being original, knowledgeable and well spoken.
Owned multiples of both - GSA no issues bar one faulty battery. Ducati Multi - enjoyed riding the bike more, but, returned 3 due to major sometimes dangerous faults. Occasional offroad use and day to day winter/wet grime and cold use.
The most trusted motorcycle content bar-none. Chris Northover, worth listening to him. 👍
Cheers, we'll pass on the love!
As usually, Chris's review is fantastic and the skills you have is amazing!!! Looking forward to the next video!!! 💪🏻👍🏻
Very good vid as always!
I have a gs1250…but I’m a KTM guy at heart.
Have a 1290r on order 👍🏼
Great video. As for Ducati my friend bought a Diavel last year. After first oil change he did some kilometers on it just to found out that he is missing 2l of oil. Now he is trying to win a battle with Ducati and get a new engine.
I had 959 and around 18.000 kilometers engine started to loose oil at header parts it did not even last to first desom I was using it just for a road riding. So these two cases really make me think of buying Ducati again although I really love the looks of Italian bikes :)
I just bought the Pan Am. I am loving it, tons of power and great around town. I don’t plan on riding off road much so I don’t care if the BMW does it better.
The panam is indeed really tempting to me. I know the GS may be the "better" option, but I’m really impressed by how go the first ADV from HD is.
@@thierryfaquet7405 I put on a Fuel Moto muffler and mid pipe and it turned it into a beast. I liked it before but now I’m in love. Oh yeah and the taller windscreen is a must.
I don't care about the particular bikes but that's an excellent review, Chris!! Can't wait for you to ride the 660 Tuareg and Tenere WR! Or Norden vs Desert X!
We're getting a Norden on Monday and we'll be on the launch of the Desert X, can't wait!
You know what would be cool? GS 1250 vs FTR 1200 off road!
As someone who owns a KTM 1290 SDR, I don't disagree. There's something about that raw torque that's simply intoxicating! If I was going to pick between these three, it would be the KTM hands down.
Leave the good bikes to the better riders?
@@CurvedSlightly if you say so chucky
What’s needed is fully packaged 500cc adventure bikes not more heavy bikes.
I disagree. I'm replacing my Tuono V4 1100 with a 1290 SAS. I need something I can tour on, ride the mountains on, make the 8 hour trip to see family on, commute and also maybe try out some local trails and fire roads because I gave my Dad my DRZ-400S when I moved out of state. I'm not stepping down to something with 33HP from a 175HP superbike and the ONLY bike that fits the ticket is the SAS. The MultiV4 costs more than a Honda Civic, the GS is pig ugly and has no character, none of the smaller options pack the punch I'm looking for.
There are plenty of lesser options in terms of displacement, cost, etc. You don't need TC/QS/etc on a Tenere or CB500X, and if you added full electronics packages to the budget options, they wouldn't be budget anymore.
@@Jay-yg8jj lol, you disagree with manufacturers providing wider range of bikes based on your 1 personal situation?
Fair enough! I’m still loving mud season on my ‘05 GS mit Öhlins! It’s just sooo well-balanced and never stalls when bogging along ha.
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The one thing that is missing on that V4 is a bigger tank, at least 30 litres. I would go for it any day over the 1250 GS!
I personally have not taken My 2021 Multi V4 S off road. I’m an all pavement rider. My Duc is a fun daily commuter and hooligan on the weekends with the guys. V4 S wins in my opinion from max HP and especially the looks. 🏍💨.
As many others have said, excellent style of review. Very professional. What I'd add also applaud are those riding skills demonstrated in those clips. Gives true credit to all your words.
Considered both when looking for a upright sports touring bike, GS seems to be king for holding its value so for that reason I bought a 1260 Enduro with only 6k miles. 10k under original MSRP!
The very last sentence sums it all up very nicely and truly.
They are incredibly capable. However, the big bikes really do require a LOT of skill when the road isn’t just simple gravel roads.
Very true Ryan
Ducati are more reliable than the German and Austrian brands for quite a few years now (according to what data you can find online). I bought a Multi within a year of my brother buying a Super Tenere and Cousin buying a GSA... they've both been stranded by their bikes (drive shaft issue on the STen and MULTIPLE fuel pump failures on the GSA). I've not had any major issues with the Multi in 60,000 miles.
For Big ADV Offroad however... I'd still get the GS over the Multi (OR GSA for that matter) or the Super Adventure. But I'd get a 690/701 over ANY of them for offroad ADV (and I did exactly that, my Multi doesn't do offroad anymore)... because while these big bikes CAN go offroad... they're not good at it compared to lighter bikes... weight is king.
Thank you Chris ! great review and overall comparison between these 2 great modern adventure bikes!... greetings from South Africa!
What a great comparison and review, been looking for something like this for months!! Thanks Chris, you rock man!!
Those clips of you riding in the deep mud and puddles was insane. Respect.
Skills for sure 👍🏼🔥
@@jesseonamotorcycle Booked myself into the BMW Rider Academy and for 4 days with Brett Tcaks. I REALLY hope it helps.
@@ryanmalone2681 that’s pretty cool. Is it for BMW riders only?
@@jesseonamotorcycle Not at all. Everyone is welcome. If you’re a member of the BMW Motorcycle Owners of America (MOA) you get a big discount which provides ~500% ROI on the membership cost, and you can use their bikes (all BMW), but you can use any bike you want. The instructors and curriculum is world class. Look up what it takes to become a certified BMW instructor and it give you an idea.
Great comparison. Like you, I'd go orange all day long for off road focused ripping about. Wife says she wants to go with me for mixed paved and gravel touring so it seems to be a toss up between the V4 Rally and the Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. Orange will be boys only.
I very much await your riding review of the Norden, Tuareg and DesertX.
I think I would enjoy the nimbleness and lightness of the middleweight ADV class above the stability and raw power that the big ADV class has.
I also do love to know how you get along with the new big Triumph.
Cheers
Great Vid, and totally agree with the mentality of these things absolutely can ride off-road. When you do BDR’s it’s not about speed but more of tackling the obstacles ahead, and getting to the end point. DOL
Duc looks sick 👌🏼💚
Better then the KTM Optimus Prime Transformer bike.
Fantastic video. Loved how you included other bikes, like the KTM. Keep it up!
Yes Thank God I will buy one of each of them
Awesome review ! I think your wrap up on the bikes is right on point. Well Done
My reluctance to go hard off road with either one of those has less to do with the bikes ability and more to do with being 40k plus AUD..
The Boxer and the cardan drive you can not compare with a chain drive. On a long trip you always choose the GS. You can compare it with the KTM and still I would go with the KTM. A Supersport Duc is what I would go for.
I sold my honda xr650l when i got my bmwGS 1200 im 70 and dont ride single track the GS does off road yes its heavy go slow love the big mule!
I love my 1290 SAR, coming from soley riding offroad bikes now I have a bike that with a change of tyres can also perform with the liter class road bikes too.
Man, you never point out to the wrong point of view!
would love to see a review of the smallest horse in the gs stable - 310GS. As always it's lovely to hear you anytime
Damn, I wish I could ride that well on road, let alone off road! :D
Don’t choose a bike from “these” comparisons. Find a way to try all the bikes yourself. I just bought a 1250 GSA, but after trying other bikes, there are things I like about other bikes. Though smaller bikes are easier to handle, you’ll need the bigger bike to get you to your adventure. Will the bike cruise at 75 mph for hours, and provide enough protection from rain and buffeting winds?
We never tell people to buy bikes from any review Peter, you always have to go a try for yourself.
@@BikeWorldTVshow , you never did…I agree. Personally, I’m now more informed from person experiences, and that was my point.
The GSA I chose is an amazing machine. So much so, I’m selling my street bike. But, the switch gears is not user friendly while at speed. None is backlit, and using the “wheel” on the left handlebar is dangerous while in traffic at any speed.
@@lay1back There are a lot of people who will take what some vloggers have to say though. Very worrying! We’re not vloggers BTW, just though we’d clear that up, Chris is actually a very well experienced off road instructor.
@@BikeWorldTVshow , I never meant my comment to be critical. Your report was informative and impartial.
@@lay1back thanks Peter! Our answer wasn’t really meant for you, we like to reaffirm what we do. Too many people take what inexperienced vlogger are telling them, nothing better than getting out on bikes yourself.
Great review! Nice to see Ducati taking off road seriously... shame those rear indicators didn't survive 😂 (KTM 1290 SA all day long though 😉)
Survive is exactly what they did, they snap out instead of breaking.
Push them back in, and you're good to go. 😎
@@matsrekdal3065 At least they are designed to do that then! Would be good if they stayed in place and snap out when dropped though. Look a bit sorry flapping around haha
Shame the KTM is the fugliest bike out there.
Yes, neither of these.
Buy orange but 890 adv R. hahaha so much fun
What keeps me from being a better rider is not able to afford constant repairs for going off road. I can afford gasoline and oil changes and thats it.
ducati's power + bmw off road performer = ktm adventure
Can't wait for the on road comparison!
Awaiting your review on 1300 GS 😊
BTW, Walter's Arena if you are wondering. Your* welcome. 👊
*Yes, I know GFY.
“Stupid fast” sounds like a good thing to like :)
be great to have a similar video to compare all the bikes under 230Kgs, desert x, africa twin, tiger rally, ktm 890, T7 ,Tuareg 660
Can we get a new comparison test now with these adv bikes?
I wish you could add to the off-road comparison the Africa Twin 1100 (manual) .
Ducati MTS...the number one
Try to get a Hero Xpulse 200 4v, I love it, maybe you do too.
Still some work to do on the Ducati rear indicators though eh? 😀
Don't start with the indicators, they're not broken. 😂
Can you do comparison video of bmw gs1250 and bmw r ninet urban gs
Thank you🙏🏻
Love the review esp how you maneuver those bikes off road... Im still enjoying my monster 797 though😊😊
The monster is a nice bike 👍🏼
The Multistrada V4s has a 4 year unlimited mileage warranty. I know what I prefer
Those poor Ducati turn signals couldnt take the bumps 😂
They were fine, they're meant to do that so they don't break off, they just push back in...
@@BikeWorldTVshow well that is interesting to know!
@GRIP WOLRD We could honestly do a video on that alone looking at all the comments we've had 🤣
When does the on road comparison come out? Also are you going to review the Multistrada Rally next year?
I just clicked in but i have to comment. I have a 20 V4S Multi and i do take it off road. Dirt, rocks, water, ive dropped it on a steep mountain pass. I run from cops on it as well ;) The boy DOES IT ALL! I keep up and harrass the Panigalies and other sport bikes in my meet ups making them feel inadequate. LOL oh yea.
Oh and mine is kitted out sport touring. Ive done all the dirt with sport touring wheels and tires. Im sure it would be a riot off road w/ the nobbies and wire wheels.
@06:13 the rear-blinkers are dangling on for dear life...
not a Beemer fanboi, but gawd...that is some nice kit 🤗
I like the Ducks, but on the street or SM only
Chris. The trails that you are showing in the video, where in the UK are they? Thank you. Great videos as always, very informative.
Thanks.
What happened to the ducati's rear indicators?
Nothing, they push back in so they don't break off.
Great review as expected...thanks man...👏👏👏
Between the R1250GS, the 1290 Super Adv R, the Multistrada V4S, I'd say none of these is potentially any more reliable than the other. I'd probably go with the KTM. Big torque and power, history of dirt in the brand, durable, not a mile wide, respectable fuel economy.
Don’t forget the GS uses half the fuel of a Multi 4S.
Horses need food, didn't you know it?
@@mauriziozanni4161 I’d rather have the horse that eats less 😉
I'm curious with the new Ducati Dessert X, I'm waiting a review after you'll test one! cheers.
Mad skills!
So the KTM is a giant dirtbike, Multi V4 is an adventure sportbike, the GS is a Goldilocks in-between.
Damnit!!! I thought I had finally decided which bike I want. Then I watch this and am more confused than ever. Great review.
Which bike did you ended up buying ? Hahaha im the same here cant decide
What bike did you guys decide? I went with a Triumph for my ADV bike.
@@jesseonamotorcycle i got a ktm 1290 sas beautifull its a monster hahhaa
@@Motoandy83 nice choice!
I would pick BMW because easier to repair and load of aftermarket parts or 2nd hand used parts around the world .
Another great video from Chris 👍👍👍
Keep it up guys 👍👍👍
You did it! Thnx man
tiger, multi or gs? which is best?
Don't worry about breaking the mirror on the Multi, it'll set you back 97€. Not too bad.
Have fun! 😎
does the sar actually have more suspension travel than a rallye/gsa?
looking forward for a desertx review by dear Chris
Couldn't take any of them off road lool
awesome head to head still leaning to bmw
Rob did you get one?
Hi. Was the BMW you showed the Low Chassis model? It looked it. It is important to me as I'm just about to decide on one or a KTM. Thanks
We’ll find out for you.
another great review! curious what adventure boots do you wear?
I’m looking for a good pair of boots my self. There just so expensive but definitely worth it off course.
What's your winner? Triumph Tiger no contest.
Chris what do think about KTM 1290 Adv-S?
He's such a good rider.
What is the presenter's name, please?
Very good!!!!
How about the new Aprilia Touareg?
Chris, love from India!
Great review mate
I know, I know-looks are subjective. BUT, the Multistrada is **THE FUGLIEST** bike ever. I can't imagine actually being attracted to it. I wouldn't ride one if I won it in a contest. It's too bad because I've heard that it's a great machine.
Good review but 99% of people don't take any of them off road. Did I miss the service cost comparison as the Multistrada needs a major service at 36000 miles not 18000 like the GS.
Alan I take my ADV bike off road lol
Where is the guy who was a Dakar racer?
He’s in Portugal teaching people to ride.