Why Stars Get Addicted To HEROIN! | Joe Rogan & Pauly Shore
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2023
- Joe Rogan and Pauly Shore talk addiction in pop culture.
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Paul Montgomery Shore is an American actor, comedian, and filmmaker best known for his roles in 1990s comedy films. Shore began as a stand-up comedian at the age of 17, before becoming an MTV VJ in 1989. This led to a starring role in the comedy film Encino Man in 1992, which was a modest hit
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I started doing drugs since my teenage, got addicted to heroin. Spent my whole life fighting heroin addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Big shout out to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
Amen God bless people. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health.
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YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the
same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today
Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the
morning after. So no hangovers. No
depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now
have a more calm mind
How do I reach out to him? Is he on Instagram
As an ex heroin/opiate addict from 2005-2018, I can tell you that the reason is simple. It numbs all cares in the world. Any stress, obligations, people in your ear, etc., it just all vanishes and you feel like everything is okay. Then you need it to feel like a normal human as you rewire your brain and become a full fledged addict. Famous people do it to escape and feel like a “normal” person with “no stress”.
congrats on your sobriety, im sober after ten years of dope
We have a genius here
The question wasn't how junkies use it to become useless and nod off on a couch. It was how some people use it to become more creative and more talented.
@@JaBoreman settle down boreman
@@JaBoreman Nobody uses heroin to become more creative or talented, genius. It’s a stupid question.
A friend of mine who had a couple decades clean from opiates...Vietnam Vet with a doctorate in Psychology....he was my sponsor at the time. I asked him "why do people do a drug that puts you to sleep" He said " when a person does opiates it shuts off the emotional center of the brain, you don't feel anything...think of Pink Floyd's comfortably numb" It made all the sense in the world to me from then on why once you're hooked it's soooo hard to get clean. He also told me opiates shut down the body's natural pain response...so when you're trying to get clean....everything hurts.....he said..."it hurts to open your eyes" and you get dope sick, which is like the worst flu you can imagine...cause your body becomes physically dependent on the drugs. I'm so grateful I never took that road..... I just celebrated 30 years clean and sober.
That's a vacation compared to methadone withdrawals. And That's a vacation compared benzodiazepine withdrawals. Being sick is one thing, but losing your mind on top of it is a entirely different ball game. And it lasts years. Drugs are fun until they start to do you...
oh god no wonder people can't stop. i feel like its moreso the pain than anything that makes people not stop. talkin about the eyes closing and hurting thing and not the mental stuff. its so much harder to fix a mental problem than a physical one. its why i dont really blame drug addicts too much. i know they're in pain mentally and they just want that pain to go away so they do the drug.
The worst flu of your life. The IS NOT an understatement.
Smoked oxys for 10 years. then took suboxone for another 10 years. kicked that about 2 years ago and It took about a year and a half to feel normal again. Would never do any of it again or wish is on anyone even my enemies
Joe absolutely should have Jerry Cantrell on. He’s an American Treasure and phenomenal musician song writer and guitarist.
He has some amazing stories to and tells them so well
Totally agree
YES I AGREE!
Yes plz
That would be an awesome podcast, I was only thinking this the other day
I was in active addiction as a i.v. heroin user after breaking my back in 2007 and getting addicted to oxys and oxycodone 30s & methadone and it eventually led to shooting heroin all I can say is yes does it feel amazing .. absolutely if I knew I had an endless supply of heroin I would still be doing it .. but once your body and mind is dependent on opiates you'll do ANYTHING to make sure you get them.. it took a 68 month sentence and being sent to Washington State Penitentiary to get me clean and sober after a 10+ year bender .. it takes everything from you .. your family your friends your wife ect ect once i became addicted my life basically ended. After multiple overdoses and having to be shocked back to life by emts I still couldn't quit .. when dying doesn't stop you nothing will . I hope anyone reading this that struggles with addiction just know there's always hope for you to turn your life around and live a positive clean and sober lifestyle I wouldn't wish heroin addiction and or withdrawals on my worst enemy..
Congrats on Being/staying sober!
Big Respect Albert and I wish you a joyful life after such an ordeal. Stay strong from the UK.
Tried a bump as a young drug lover. Got so fucked outta my mind. Was always grateful I did rather than having an enjoyable experience.
Valid words!
So proud that you found recovery before death ❤
I personally think it's because artistically inclined people struggle a lot, especially with quieting the mind. Heroin is the only drug that just completely shuts off all that mental chatter, you feel as if you can finally breath. 8+ year IV heroin addict.
Yeah uhhh acid an shrooms are 50x safer and can clear your mind lmao. Also they both are performance enhancers along with weed
This is the right answer.
"I personally think it's because artistically inclined people struggle a lot"
No, it's because the entertainment industry seeks out fucked up people in the first place because they are easier to control. Throughout history artists haven't always been mental cases and junkies, that's a result of the desires of the modern entertainment industry
I agree. Personally, it has also worked far better than anything else when it comes to alleviating my depression. As you know, it is a double edged sword. When I would run out, it made my depression 100x worse. Honestly, I think that adults should be allowed to purchase whatever drug they wish as long as they don’t harm others. Imo, it really comes down to quality of life and it would be nice if it could be prescribed in a manner that suits the individual. That being said, I’m on methadone now. It is what it is. Take care and I wish you all the best.
@@ChrisfromGeorgiaid have to disagree. Heroin is nothingness. No net value to society. Every other class of drug has benefits to society and culture. Heroin is nothing.
I’m 5years sober named my son Layne, those songs changed my life.
Congrats, my friend! 🎉 Here's to six!
im 5 minutes sober, good job
Hoon died from a cocaine overdose, he was 28. So sad, what a brilliant soul.
He radiated such beauty despite all the pain he must have had. ❤
Thanks for saving from having to correct them.
The reason most musicians get into heroin is because there’s a lot of spare time on tour and heroin not only makes the mundane bearable, it also speeds up time. Keith Richards used to use it as he wasn’t comfortable with fame. Also, creatively, heroin allows you to create with criticism in your head. It unplugs emotions, so you just go with what you feel. I was addicted to heroin for over a decade, but it’s only fun for a couple of years. Then you’re just doing it to be normal.
Part of the point is that unlike coke it ain't most musicians. It's a specific type.
Kurt Cobain did it because he had stomach pains. And of course because of his emotional issues
Miles Davis used it to lock into a groove.
Most musicians dont get into heroin though. I think this might be a case of confirmation bias. And also the fact that musicians live a lifestyle that involves being around drugs and alcohol more than average
He had stomach pains because he continued to drink and do drugs. It's not heroic to have an ucler you watch what you eat and it'll go away. You drink with an ulcer and you're completely screwed@@jonathanramos8414
My uncle had a great job, beautiful family. Everything. He got into heroin and started pawning everything, straling from my aunt. My dad and grandma had an intervention and begged him to get help. My dad said if you keep going youre going to lose everything- your house, your kids. He looked my dad in the eye and said "so be it"
Wow
Wow
So how did it end?
That's how good heroin is
☝🏼😳
I'm a professional illustrator who used hydrocodone for a time and it improved my performance by freeing me from all anxiety, self doubt and those nagging voices in the back of your head that rob you of your confidence. I felt as though I had tapped into a universal force that guided my hand by an intelligence that was greater than myself.
Das it mayne
That "intelligence that was greater than" yourself was, actually... Yourself. But without anxiety and depression. Problem is once you're addicted, it gets worse than when you started--especially when you quit completely and have to go through the withdrawal.
@@devilsoffspring5519 I did go through the withdrawal, and it was awful-- but I'm glad to have had the experience. If I had had an endless supply of pills I would have been tempted to keep taking them, but my prescription ran out. I eventually lost the tooth anyway, so the whole affair was a farce.
There is a book I’m reading now by Norman Peal
I think that’s his name. It’s a positive thinking book.
One chapter is called
Expect the best
He tells a story of a kid that didn’t expect the best
He had all these doubts and fears but once he learned to let them all go his life turned around
Drugs can give you that emotional detachment and boost
But it’s temporary and you crash
But their are other ways to let go of your emotions
And experience that kind of unlimited love
That people feel when their on drugs
That release from both pain and pleasure
That floating feeling
That’s sort of what I’m working on right now
The ability to detach at will from my dreams and goals
To simply let them go and have that unlimited inner peace
Warmth and love
No fear of the future
No haunting memories or the past
Release is possible without drugs
@@Noumenon4Idolatry I like Norman Vincent Peale, who was nominally Christian. He used to have a syndicated TV show on Sunday mornings where he appeared in elaborate Catholic Bishop regalia and gave interesting and insightful talks.
i am a 10 year recovering addict. i sniffed a line offered to me after going to a concert. it quickly turned into addiction where i eventually shot up. something i never imagined i would do. for the next 4 years, after having to resign my executive job, i almost lost everything. could not quit on my own because the physical, and worse, mental pain was too much. finally, my wife and mother of my 2 very young kids, said get treatment or get out. i went to a 3 month facility and got my chit together. took a few years to get my career back on track but now I am in my mid 50s, i have probably reached the ceiling. a ceiling that is lower than the role i had before heroin. but still married with kids in high school who do not remember details (4 and 5 when i went to treatment) but are terrified of drugs and alcohol b/c they remember enough.
Glad you used you brain and went to rehab. Little girls need their Daddy. 👍🏼
God bless you, I'm so proud of you for recovering. I gave the same ultimatum to my addict husband, but sadly he did not choose me and our 4 kids. I left and he died within 8 months.
@@tynaannaschmitz3559 i am sorry for your loss. i am very lucky as the % of addicts that have long term recovery is in the low single digits. my half brother died of the same bullchit at 25 and it destroyed my parents. i know this sounds like BS, but the person inside the addict has little choice, imo. it makes no sense why addicts keep doing a drug that keeps us in Hell. in would rather be dead than still doing drugs. I always resented my step father and that resentment actually was what saved me. my biggest concern was to have my kids resent me so i got the wife to drive me to a 3 month rehab. gees, don't know what to say. i personally know so many dead or in jail addicts and the carnage to their family. Some folks find Al Anon helpful. Your response has touched me. Never had that happen with an anonymous comment on social media. i have had comments that made me angry though:-)
So happy that you found your way out...your wife and children must be very proud of you. ❤
@@tynaannaschmitz3559Thats fucked up
Was in treatment with a general contractor who was a heroin addict. He said the level of focus he could have without distraction and tension was immense. Until you’re strung out then you can’t do shit except try not to be strung out.
I used to kno multiple function H users but that was before fentanyl hit the streets, you could be a functioning H user working 9-5 for a certain amount of time.. a year maybe two before ur strung but fent is a nother beast it literally takes a speckle of dust not even crumbs or IV use but sniffs of dust particles and ur waking up 30secs later to emts and cops surrounding u telling u wtf just happened not even worth it it’s Russian roulette where as old school golden brown u could marinate as long as u didn’t go full etard
Gonna ask my doctor to try heroin for ADHD next time
Facts! The beginning is always okay but it never lasts. Then, I found myself in this dark abyss of just getting and staying well. Awful time in my life. I have three years clean/sober as of April 6th.
For me it's great....got employee of the month and a job promotion...could work like hell....the problem is when I COULDNT get it.
Sounds like me. Opiates were like jet fuel for me. I was always looking to do more, make more money, just more. Heroin provided a way to do that without fatigue or pain and I had immense focus. Problem is, it will always get to a point of diminishing returns and then eventually where it’s the reason you Need to do more.
Layne was one of the only celebrities who didn't glamorize or lie about his habit. He said it's either alcohol or heroin and heroin kills you slower. Which is absolutely true. When they found him, he'd been sitting there dead 2 weeks, under 90lbs (he was over 6ft) already decomposing. His little corpse was stuck to the upholstery, needle in hand. Can't imagine being his mother finding him like that. RIP
BS. He definitely glamorize it
@@craigbenttimaki2806nope you’re wrong . So many songs with AIC and also mad season “wake up young man it’s time to wake up- your love affair has got to end… for ten long years”. So many examples of him trying to warn himself and others that heroin will kill you. How about y ou give us an example of him glamorizing it???
@@ABitefLife sure, Junkhead. If he's being unbelievably sarcastic in this song, then he's definitely at least giving very deceptive portrayal that could be easily misinterpreted by many. From what I can remember, he also did say that he had enjoyed heroin greatly for some time but he was in hell later on. Can't find the exact quote now, though, so it might have been made up.
Junkhead is still at least a very unclearly presented jab at drug addiction, if not a song straight up embracing it.
@@cyferki123There’s definitely nothing sarcastic about Junkhead. That song IS the user’s mind when the high is fresh/new. But of course it doesn’t last.
I AM A HEROIN ADDICT AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS, ITS NOT THE HEROIN THAT IS MAKING MUSICIANS CREATE THESE MASTERPIECES! ITS THE STATE OF MIND THAT AN ADDICT HAS THAT IS SHINING THROUGH IN THE MUSIC.
Do you think you’ll ever get off it?
Currently ? That’s crazy my guy put down the pipe , put down the needle 💉 your body is a temple start treating it with respect start today !!!
1) Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (x6) biweekly until sober
2) Exponential dose reduction
3) Something healthy to look forward to on a regular basis. Exercise, socializing, hobby, anything.
The LSA seems to be particularly effective at treating addiction.
Totally agree. It's from us junkies going inside, to the scary places people fear or don't look at ever or have enough insight to dig into and we get brutally honest with shit that people call brave or raw or whatever but it's real. It cancels the noise of the mundane b.s and yapping and gets right to the core of shit. Numbing us the whole way through. Sure we've been warned, sire we read the poetry, heard the songs, listened to the old timers in the clink but until you experience it yourself, you'll never really know. Hope you're well and finding your way through it as best you can. There is a flip side. Always a flip side huh? Lol
@karriedavis I used to feel like I understood a certain part of life that no one else knew about. Once I quit doing H I felt like I was looking for whatever it was for quite a few years. Now that it's been 20 years I can say it felt really good until it didn't. You won't ever go back to exactly how you were either, but it's still better.
Pauly Shore is a good conversationalist. really mellow..asks questions....interviewing Joe mildly.
Jerry Cantrell would be so cool to see on JRE
I was just about to comment the same thing..
Dude is from Oklahoma, moved to Seattle to become a rock star and survived. Would love to hear his stories and advice.
I think that one slipped by Joe, Pauly said guitarist and Joe didn't pick up on who he meant!!!
I agree but Joe said "ugh" when Pauly mentioned it.
Met him in NYC 20+ years ago when I was bartending at Kingshead Tavern on 14th & 3rd . Very mellow dude . Called me the next night while I was hooking up with my girl and I bailed . I told her Jerry Cantrell wanted to chill 🤷🏻♂️ we bar hopped with a friend who was a bouncer at the bar as well who was a very big dude and had a cool night . I never ask him anything personal about his job or Layne Staley. Growing up in NYC celebrities are always chillen so you learn to not be starstruck . In fact the only time I’ve ever been starstruck in nyc was meeting Don Mattingly New York Yankees first baseman . I forgot how to talk lol
As a H addict, i wanna say one thing. It takes away your soul and gives you warmth/love when you gently sob
True.
There's always a way back to a good life. It just takes work and self love
I hope you know you still have a soul. The burden of sadness and the love are proof. People without souls feel nothing.
I love you bro❤
If I can kick heroin, you can. God bless 🙏
its like a warm hug. and things are GROOVY for awhile until it stops being fun
"And yet I find, yet I find, repeating in my head. If I can't be my own. I'd feel better dead." -Layne Staley RIP
Pauly Shore has always seemed like such a sweet soul. I wish him all best.🙏💕
i loved him then hated him and now were both grown ups and he seems like a genuine dude
Pauly is a dink in person. He’s rude to fans even at his personally planned after show photo session.
Crawl
I'm that way with Russell Brand
Sarah Marshall was the first time I thought, maybe this guy isn't a complete whack.
this ia the 2ns time ive seen pauly on jre and hes looking much better much more together..good to see
He was an adorable talented spoiled brat with Peter Pan Syndrome..he did finally (eventually) grow up. In hindsight, he didn't really get a free ride, he had to find his own anti- typecast ways to 2024...that goes for Adam Sandler to🧞 Pauli is a national treasure, I was in high school when his movies were out👑 Happy memories, and his heart was always in the right place, he is a great comedian and actor to💜...🛸☂️⚜️💜🎷🍤⚜️🎺🫶
Heroin is the greatest drug ever created and i miss it every day lol. The issue is that it's too good and once you've done it, you don't want to stop doing it, then you can't stop doing it and that's when your life falls apart. The reason Rockstars are able to use it and still be functional is because they've got the money and the connections so their lives don't fall apart as quickly. They aren't stealing and scheming and they aren't sick for days because their dealer is out. They don't have to worry about those things so their lives don't drastically change once they're addicted to heroin. Their lives still fall apart though after a while. It just takes longer.
Agreed! It’s so good once you try it nothing else is fun without it again smh
Facts! Well put.
Of you had unlimited money/unlimited heroin. You will be fine physically, it doesn't harm the body.
How long did it take you to get off it?
Lil Wayne is a great case study. He’s been sipping syrup heavily since age 12 and although he looks old as shit and his hairs falling out - I’m interested to see how far he makes it. He’s gotta be one of the longest fictional addicts I’ve seen that just accepts his addiction with no plan of quitting
A friend did H a couple of times one summer several years ago.
They said it was the most amazing experience. They described what that felt like. It also scared the living shit out of them because they knew they were at the top of a very slippery slope. It's all downhill from there.
They never touched it again
I describe the act (feelings&euphoria)as getting a hug from God. If that makes any sense
@@Liefvikerson what is god?
@@LiefvikersonIf there's a god who gives hugs instead of cursing all of humanity and having his own son murdered over a damn piece of fruit then yes, makes sense lol
God is the one authority who will prove to you what a selfish, all-consuming and all-demanding prick you really are. That's what I found out and I chose to take the turn at the crossroads. You have the same choice but must first admit to yourself what you are!
@@ghostwalk2446LMMFAO tell em
As a former heroin addict I can tell you this. The first time I did it (smoked it) the taste was very bitter. I couldn’t get over how bad/bitter it tasted. I threw up so many times once I was high. Everytime I would drink water. I would projectile vomit it up. Second and third time I used was the same…. Fourth time I used I didn’t throw up….. but maybe 12 -24 hours after I had used I went through withdrawl to the point of throwing up. And I would have but I had some dope left and used. I was hooked. Heroin is just a constant sickness. Your always feeling terrible and the only thing that feels amazing is when you use only because your not sick anymore. It’s not like this amazing high. It’s like fighting the worst flu ever…
Besides not been able to take a s*** for weeks.
@@Pazuzu- yup and when you do dump it’s rabbit pellets
i smoked a few times a couple decades ago... the taste, ugh!
the thing that bothered me the most was that just after smoking it i felt great, but immediately noticed it starting to wear off...
still feeling good and it was wearing off slowly but the fact that it was so noticeably wearing off and felt just a little bit better before made me constantly focus on that... just wanting more right away!
kinda like the come down started right after i smoked it... the last time i smoked it i just thought this is not worth it (as in what i payed for it), i would smoke a little bit occasionally just to relax, i was no where near addicted (i do not have an addictive personality), but i could not throw it away so i smoked the rest i had, got totally numbed out, crawled myself in to bed just laying there drooling until i fell asleep... it was not enjoyable, its like i got so numb that it numbed out the feeling good part... never touched it again.
but that feeling right away after you first smoke it though just getting home from work sitting down to relax... scary good!
im glad i never touched a needle, that might have changed things...
Damn man why the heck did you do it then?! If it felt so terrible try some different drugs or go straight edge. Why do it if it just makes you feel awful and there's no super-transcendent buzz to enjoy?
Just have a couple beers instead, at least it will make you feel pleasantly woozy instead of barfing your guts up! If you have a Xanax then chew it up (or half of it) and wash it down with a beer, it'll give you a peacefully woozy little buzz
@@devilsoffspring5519 yea I tried basically all types of drugs +alcohol over the years. I find it’s better without them at all… also be careful with Xanax. Withdrawl is crazy from benzos
Love Pauly Shore !
Glad to see him doing well.
Pauly Shore is an utterly talentless Jew who'd evil Mother treated Gentiles like slaves at her "The Comedy Store" ... Pauly shore IS nepotism!
Me too! Seems like a genuinely nice guy.😉
Pauly is the man, the myth, the WEASLE!!!! guest house was F'n HILARIOUS. my kids asked me what high-school in the 90s was like, I played Encino man and biodome for them. Nuff said.
@@dirtyskieschemifornia3091, I miss the 90s
@@SoldierAndrew me too.
It's obviously a great drug. You feel amazing. That is not the problem. The problem is how it becomes the only thing that matters.
You literally just said drugs are great. You definitely must be on drugs.
duh
Simply put...100 percent spot on
Because nothing in life truly matters. Ask anyone in hospice or on their deathbed.
Lots of folks do Heroin. They don't make the news though for an OD. It also gets expensive quickly to chase the high so successful people can afford more of it.
As a lifetime cop and father of 3 kids that jumped into heroin as teens I had an epiphany one night. Massive Kidney stone lodged in my uretha, went to the hospital in the worst pain of my life. They shot me with Dilaudid (synthetic heroin basically). I was in instant euphoria in 30 seconds. I then understood why people get addicted to the high. I was instantly educated in the draw and evil of narcotics. I finally understood the whole deal. Opiates are some scary stuff. Don't go there.
I feel you, I had throat surgery 2 bottles one per each week. I took a full bottle in a 2.5 days. It didn't make the pain any less, but I literally sat in front of a clock counting the minutes until I could take my next pill. I was nearly tripple dosing, still in intense pain but all I could think about was that next pill.
I had a kidney stone at Christmas time, I understand that pain!
I’ve had Dilaudid in the hospital but never left having the temptation to go home and continue doing drugs. 😑 I think a part of it must have to do with someone’s having addiction tendencies to begin with.
@@doylejodi7502 Yes that's true but in my experience my children at 16 & 17 were too immature to understand the Pandoras box mentality of drug use and so many youngsters do the same. They don't realize the price to pay for continued use. 1 is dead, 1 still using, 1 awaiting Federal Jail time. Absolute horror show. Great kids, loving, sweet, smart but highly susceptible to drug addiction.
How did it make you feel busting people doing the same shit your kid was doing?? Did ya give him a jail sentence to go along with his addiction??
Heroin takes more than it gives😮
Wow. That's sums up pages of description in just a few words. Well spoken 👏
True, for some. Alcohol is far worse though.
Opioids in general just make you feel otherworldly. Your whole body head to toe feels lifted and relaxed and you almost fuzzy like idk how to explain it but it’s just a great feeling (at first) then it turns into torture. Opioid addiction is the absolute worst
When you are in severe pain, it feels like a warm blanket being pulled slowly over your body from foot to head. When it reaches your brain, you’re out…nothing matters. Had the experience once in the care of a doctor. Easy to see how addictive it could be. Hope I never need it again. Would never do it recreationally, as I’m sure I would be addicted in short order. Heaven-sent when you need it….straight from the devil when you don’t.
With long term use that fuzzy blanket goes away but the pain relief continues.its the chasing the dragon to get that feeling that is the problem with addicts.
Oh it’s good to see Pauly Shore.
As Steven Tyler said best, heroin & or opioids, that particular experience, that high is like a warm blanket that never fails. Under any circumstance, regardless of how much pressure u face from success or any struggle a person might find in life, this proverbial warm blanket wraps u in peace & serenity & it does so almost instantaneously.
But…..that’s exactly why it should never b touched, under any circumstance. It works too good for every person & THAT is the slippery slope every future addict thinks they will never fall down, though they always do.
Don't even think about doing heroin let alone talk about it. Part of the way it gets everyone, is that most drugs that people tend to abuse, the people know right away it's not a good situation and they should probably stop but can't or don't. Most drugs are like an abusive boyfriend. Heroin takes a totally different approach. It's seduces you at such a slow rate you don't even realize it's happening, by the time you do catch on it's way too late.
This is how it should be taught to kids, not the one time and your an addict bullshit. Everyone needs to tell the truth. It slowly seduces you until it has all its fingers in you and than turns on you
scary but i need to know the feeling at some point in my life. maybe 80
PLEASE GET JERRY CANTRELL ON THE SHOW! Would be so awesome.
The withdrawals are like nothing else in the world in how many different ways it attacks you. Physically, it makes every nerve in your body hyper sensitive, sore, your bones ache, muscle convulsions, every orifice leaks, eyes, nose, ass, vomiting and that's just the beginning. Mentally, it's a constant battle of will, make it stop make it stop, no I cant I wont, just do it, I can get through this. You feel exhausted and it's only been a few hours of a 5 day torture. It breaks you...over and over and over. Every urge to make it stop is a fight for ur life and if you manage to hold off giving in, it starts over 5 mins later. This goes on for 5 sleepless days. Yeah, it's hard..how do you win when winning hurts so much and failure is rewarded with that high?
Wow, more and better reasons to convince myself not to do it :) Did you ever try sleeping off the withdrawal with melatonin and sleeping pills? If you get yourself good and zonked so you can pass out, maybe it wouldn't be so awful.
@@devilsoffspring5519 You can't hold anything on your stomach. A melatonin pill and just a sip of water will come back in just a short while disguised as projectile vomiting...or more like an intense lava flow of vomit...consisting of that bitter pill, sip of water and about a half a gallon of stomach acid. If you do manage to get the reprieve of sleep and doze off, you'll wake covered in sweat, shivering. The only thing that will stop it is plugging those opiate receptors in the brain, many long, miserable days or death. Something you wish for every waking minute of those long miserable days. One of the very few conditions so bad people pray for death. It's why addicts often commit suicide.
Woah. This description. Sounds so brutal
I’m a 22 year old musician. So far I have a decent catalog of original shit that I’m pretty proud of and has been received pretty well. I did heroin on and off age 18-20. During this time I was creatively non-functional. I lost my chops, I didn’t write. I just was focused on doing dope. I didn’t get anything artistically out of it until I was getting off of it. First came some very despondent suicidal music from the painful and isolating feeling of heroin withdrawal. And once you get through that it felt like beautiful peaceful sunshine after an intense and violent storm. Heroin numbs and plugs up your emotions, and when you get off of it I noticed that I became very emotional. Shit like seeing a happy family or a bird or a flower and getting moved to tears. Another thing is that heroin kills your libido and my sex drive came back like a goddamn freight train which also inspired me musically. I’m blessed to be off of it and I feel no desire to use it again. I even took a few Vicodin after getting my wisdom teeth out and had no temptation to go score some dope. Too many incredible musicians have died from it. Imagine what Jimi Hendrix would’ve done had he lived past 27.
you don't have the junkie gene. you're a normal guy that became dependent. anyone can do that but it takes the right genetics to throw your life away because you love getting high so much
i was a heroin addict for over 40 years been clean for 2 ,,,,,heroin makes you feel nothing makes you not give a fuck about yours self & those around you & the hardest habbit to kick
Did it take time to be happy again not giddy happy but just ok content? That's what I found so strange is when I quit it took some time for me to feel ok happy about regular things again. I absolutely loved it it just didn't love me back.
@@JohnFFox12 being happy took along time to come because getting of heroin is 1 battles staying of it is a longer battle in some ways hard to do than beating the habbit so a big well do to you and anyone who have beaten that evil drug
I’ve had many people say meth is harder to quit then any drug
@@timpowers6876 TBH never had meth so I can't comment on that
@@timpowers6876they might be getting fentanyl in meth now. Alcohol and opiates are physically and mentally addictive. Meth is not physically addictive like that unless it has other stuff in it.
Doing heroin isn't scary...not having heroin is what is scary.
💯 absolutely correct that physical illness sucks I’ll never go threw that again didn’t even mean to get addicted it happened that fast from a baseball player to injured on painkillers fuckin horrible
The withdrawal is what's scary
I chased not getting sick for years. Didn't care about anything or anyone in my way. I'd do the worst possible things just so I didn't have to be sick. I was done with it the first year of my 8 years of use.
Yeaa man I'm glad ur doing better, I just got into out patient program. But I'm going on 3 weeks straight. Wish me luck brotha
@@braddidwhatt you're doing the best thing for you by doing that. One day at a time, or minute, just don't use.
I have struggled with opiates half of my life. I graduated college, excelled in my career and then was willing to give it all away for more. It made me feel invincible and not a care in the world, until it doesn’t and everyone around you is either dying or getting locked up.
Went to NA with my cousin just to support him. The director of it was this 50 something lady. And she was going around the room but, before she did she told us this harrowing story about cocaine addiction and how it caused her to lose her family. And after the most traumatic moment of her story she ended, turned to me and said your turn.
I don’t do drugs, never have, never will.
"i'm just here for the free coffee!"
@@sentryogmixmaster Coffee is doing drugs! Caffeine is psychoactive, it's a stimulant. That's why people chug so much of it, especially after they've done so much for so long that they've managed to develop a tolerance.
If you drink an enormous amount of really strong coffee (not decaf!) it can get you really wired as all hell, it won't be a fun high of any sort though--just restless and possibly agitated. It affects everyone differently.
I’m a recovering heroin addict, and as great as it feels, it wasn’t so much the physical feeling that hooked me in particular. It was erasing all the emotional pain instantly that got me. It was indescribable how it made me feel inside. Morrison had a serious hatred for heroin because his tumultuous relationship with his chick who was addicted to it. He said he’d never touch it. Doesn’t mean he didn’t, but he seemed to love everything else
Great explanation!!! Emotional pain...help to temporarily block trauma.
The only reason why anybody does any drug, weed, coffee, drink, ketamin, pills is to block emotional pain.
Maybe not coffee lol
Joe doesn’t realize the first few times You just throw the hell up really bad. Ha
I’m honestly only an addict because of the withdrawals.
Joe said “A man’s gotta know his limitations “- he’s right and I will add that he also has to have total control of any substance when consuming it cause if not instead of consuming it , it shall consume you. If one doesn’t have such control, I’d stay away.
if one wants to check and test this control, take that one routine luxury thing you like such as iced coffee in the morning, or that cold brewsky in the night time, or whatever that consistent treat is, and shut it off for a week. If this is easy well, you may have strong control. If this sucks balls, then yeah keep away from Heroin for sure.
Either your self control is good or you just don't do enough of the stuff to have a major chemical habit. Nothing whatsoever wrong with a beer, maybe 2 at night. Having 10 beers every morning for decades isn't so good and is probably a bugger to quit.
And it was Dirty Harry that said that line :)
I think it would be good if we were taught positive ways to deal with stress when we are young, stress does seem to be a major trigger for alcohol and other drugs more so than fun.
agreed alot!
Yeah. I used alcohol and drugs to over come my own limitations, it definitely worked but eventually I made bad decisions and got DUI's which completely fucked my life up.
Drugs can bring beauty and insight to people. But, what goes up, must come down. Then, you’re in hell.
It’s all about disassociation I think. Disassociation and then reassociation. A buddy of mine used to either robo trip or or take percocet before wrestling matches…. He said there was something about it that made him “let go” of who he was, his identity, and get into a flow state of just being an operator who reacts instead of overthinks. Kid went from being like a 15-19 wrestler to a 36-6 wrestler and placed 6th in the state the next year. He was high basically the whole damn time.
Drugs aren’t good, but getting out of your own way sure is. Finding a focused and meditative state without the use of drugs would be the perfect scenario.
Probably most profound nuanced explanation that I’ve read and can relate much
this is spot on. then after a while you actually start getting in your own way which is the opposite of why you were doing it in the first place
I had a friend who was our school's kicker in football. Whether it was percs, lsd, dmt, alcohol, blow or triple C's, weed/k2 or molly, sometimes mixed between multiple things. Always straight mongers during games, yet played like a pro. Everyone knew he was always fuxxed too, walked into school with 4lokos daily. Drove to my house tripping on 25i and freaked out, had his parents pick him up and go to the hospital and they brought him back after so they didn't have to deal with him still tripping after the doc gave him some xanax. Dont know how he's survived.
@@fadedidentity yeah haha I suppose that’s the irony. Too much of any one thing or any one process has its disadvantages.
@@mr.roboto8911 it’s interesting that we live in an era in which people are so hyper vigilant of their identities, but simultaneously are often extremely unhappy people. I have a hunch that one may influence the other. I think there are times in life where it’s extremely important to put your identity aside- forget who you are- and immerse yourself into the action of the activity you’re engaged with- that could be sports, cooking, hiking, playing with your dog. Be in the moment. Unplug form carrying around the weight of being “me.”
Myself, I broke my leg in two places and damaged the nerves in my foot and couldn’t feel my toes for a full year- being a state placing athlete poof went away. Eventually my nerves regrew and repaired themselves and I could walk again- but that experience taught me that I could always change if I wanted to and that there was more out there to be.
There are moments in life- an injury, a surgery, a break up, a firing, a death in the family, and they make us question who we see ourself as. Life itself teaches us to not take ourselves and our identities too seriously.
I haven’t touched H since august 14th 2019. I don’t miss it even a half percent.
I’ve had a long and tumultuous relationship with heroin/opiates starting from my teens, and I believe the way that I could describe it best is the first time that I used heroin and very intensely felt its effects, I remember a thought immediately rushing into my head which was this;
“I don’t ever want to not feel the way that I feel right now again, this is the only way I want to feel in my existence as a sentient being.”
The lead singer of Blind Melon (Shannon Hoon) actually died of a cocaine overdose.
He sung someone's pouring warm gravey all over me his take on heroin
@@philjoy6635he did but he died from a coke od.
Ive noticed how different Pauly is when he sits and talks to Joe. I think they must have a special relationship. And you can see and feel the respect these to have for each other! I could listen to these two talk all day!
They came thru the stand up ranks together. Old school, before comedy central specials. When you had to go to a comedy club for comedy.
Ohh God, Layne Staley and Alice In Chains…In my opinion, the greatest Rock/Grunge band. Really THE BEST. When I heard Joe mentioning Layne as one of the people we “worshipped”, I was very pleasantly surprised, because Joe hasn’t mentioned him in one podcast by now. I’m saying this because people like Layne and bands like Alice In Chains deserve at least to never be forgotten. The band really saved my life. They really did. Especially Layne, with his pure soul and emotion poured into their music, also through his lyrics and his stunning voice, besides the energy and vibe. Rest In Paradise, Layne🖤🙏🤘
I've done nearly every drug under the sun over the years. Never ever touched heroin though. I think watching Trainspotting at an early age kind of put me off it. Plus the fact, like Joe said, I was afraid I'd like it a lot. I've gotten morphine in a hospital a few times and it was fantastic. Easy to see how people get so hooked.
I got iv dilaudid when I was in the hospital years ago and I had the same exact thought. Havent even taken a painkiller (chronic back issues) since then and that was 15 years ago.
Bingo. Trainspotting was my anti heroin device. Plus, all my musical heroes died or never got right after they cleaned up. No thanks. Ill enjoy mediocrity.
Yes to Trainspotting as a deterrant! Also, I couldn't ever voluntarily stick myself with a syringe. Ouchie.
Same here, I'd be fibbing out both ends if I said I wasn't curious. I just don't have the balls. Cigarettes are bad enough, I don't need something I could *never* really quit because no matter how awful it is, it's still just too good :) hehehe
After 3rd 4th shoulder dislocation i started looking forward to it as a copin mechanism “My shoulder is popped out and hurting but atleast i am about to get high af”
Darn this brings back some anxiety of the feeling you get after getting a fix. Your nerves are finally calmed after hours of straight crippling panic. Once you're out of the nod and you're so content. Yet you're numb to every emotion an escape of sorts
Even just the act of getting your fix was enough to wash away the existential crisis you’ve been feeling
To me one of the biggest evils-tricks heroin holds in store for the user is that after a certain amount of time it no longer gets you high….you may get a 30 second intense rush when it hits the brain but other than that? 🤨eventually you need it to just feel normal …..I’m only speaking on my experiences with heroin
I knew many functioning H users who worked 9-5 easy peasy you could do that on old school H but that’s all over its fent now on the streets it’s no more old school H on the streets no more…no more 1970s golden brown it’s straight white fuckin Chinese fentanyl and all it takes is A speckle ..I’m talking a couple grains of speckles and ur high as a kite for 30seconds then all of a sudden ur waking up to medic emts around u explaining wtf just happened where as old school H didn’t do that unless u went full eeetard…this fent is china tryin to destroy from the inside out
I think all drugs are like that. Alcohol, nicotine, even weed. Dabs really fuck up your tolerance lol
This is fact.
Burroughs was once asked why he took heroin - his response was "so I can get up out of bed in the morning and shave' - pretty much exactly as you've said. It's not the initial feeling that is the problem, it's how quickly the body builds tolerance to it and then needs it just to survive. There's been cases of serious heavy addicts literally having seizures/strokes etc trying to come off cold turkey.
Yep....
Pauly is one of my favorites. He reminds of good life was at one time.
“ It’s cheap and fucking easy “ - Trevor Phillips
Here’s why; to numb the pain of childhood sexual abuse.
Ironically that's where the good music comes from. I'm kidding, there's lots of different kinds of child abuse and they all produce great artists (yes, even emotional abuse lol)
Depression from my first and only true love
I've tried every drug at least once in my 20's, so I could speak on them accurately if I survived, as an adult. I never had any issue with addiction, thank god. Wouldn't recommend this to anyone (ESPECIALLY IN 2023!!!), but after trying this one, I still don't get the attraction. 0% control is insane. I understand the romanticism and escapism, but if you sit in a room and watch someone shooting heroin, it's just depressing. They don't care about anything. They're gone. 100%. For a while. Just laughing and saying half-sentences and babbling on. Then they'd sober up, and be out, then AGGRESSIVE PHONE ANXIETY TIME. Pacing around the room for hours, muttering words, phone constantly dinging - they're being so fiendish from a compound that they've fully become a ghoul. All of this just to escape a little bit more and make their life a little bit worse. Completely ignoring self-love, reflection and positive growth... because they usually don't understand them. They were never taught important parts of EXISTING by their parents or the school system or ANYONE... usually.
So glad that chapter of life is over. A lot of those people are dead now.
lol yea you are definitely a veteran drug user and know exactly what you are referring to....
About wraps up my experience with drugs. It's cute and fun, then it's dark.
This is such a beautiful way to put it. Perfectly describes the torturous circle it puts you in and on
you never had no issues recovering from heroin?..thats cap
You're not describing a drug.. just a dumb person. I actually expected at least some marginal degree of insight from this comment based on that first sentence but not sure wth this even was lol.
Every day I think about how much I love Joe Rogan
Do something else
@@MisfitMods I'm a woman I can think about 5 things at the same time
Seroquel is a stepped on form of this. I am so proud to be alive,Katt Williams explained it right how it makes you feel... Took out my voices but at what cost? My life? Nope. For me it was a choice to take these pills to keep up selling drugs and pimping my bestfriend at the time. I left that lifestyle to get clean. Took me four months of recovery. My husband stood there and prayed on me. At this time I have been defeated by Jesus,my sinners heart can't do shit but apologize to my creator. 😢
It comes from not wanting to feel pain and negative emotions.
You stop feeling anything that bothers you and start feeling like you're the king of the world. Imagine feeling like that all the time and the art that comes out of you. When you sing, when you play instruments... it's out of this world. Incomparable.
Most Heroin Addicts had Childhood Trauma. It’s a escape Drug. I can’t see being more creative on it. It’s like a drunk feeling it’s not like you feel focused in fact I feel absolutely dreamy and tuned out. That’s attractive to us who Had trauma
Gives you pep and focus and blocks out noise. Good for artists.
One thing for professional touring musicians is not only is that shit tiring as fuck, but often these people will have splitting headaches. Additionally, playing an instrument an especially leaning over a heavy guitar for hours, can make your back and neck really sore. Never surprises me when a musician gets into heroin
This shows Rogan's mentality and why we all love him.
Codeine cough Syrup
I only done heroin once but I was addicted bad to pain pills and I can honestly say I loved it the mix of opiates and Xanax was amazing but it cost me everything
If you have Xanax (or maybe any benzos) just have a beer with it. Buzzy enough when you get the dose right and it probably beats an opioid/opiate habit!
Of course, almost anything that a really good stone is probably a bitch to quit. I've never been "on" any benzos by prescription but I've heard they're a bastard to lay off once you're in the swing of it, too.
I was a big time heroin addict and been clean since 2015 and there’s a huge reason on why people get addicted…Picture getting a morphine drip in the hospital x20 over….like Stephen Tyler said “it’s like a warm fuzzy blanket that will ruin your life” and soon as he said that I knew exactly what he meant
Because it is magic!! No pain!!
No fear, no inhibition, but
No pain for someone very hurt can be truly inspirational believe me.
Nothing holding you back from peace anymore
I don't think Joe realizes that all of the drug experiences that he has had are his own personal events and as soon as he starts saying you or their he has no point of reference. It's each person's own spiritual experience that determines the outcome, be it death or enlightenment. MAD RESPECT FROM EAST LONG BEACH 💯
ESL
Perry Farrell said he couldn’t write after he stopped using. It helps uncreative people create
@@eem14114 what does ESL MEAN
Yes get jerry Cantrell on your show. He’s the man
It’s like floating on a cloud of joy and love
Creative people usually feel really hard and sometimes they need something to help stop feeling all the evil around them and heroin feels like a hug from God. Sad but true.
Heroin is like the force "do or do not, there is no try" 😂
I'd say it's a blessing that it just never ever crossed my mind to fuck with it, I've had 5 friends I grew up with Die from that drug, 4 more die from drinking and driving, The rest of them are strung out on Heroine, I literally don't have 1 bro I could go hang out with, I'm definitely not an angel, But no that shit just never has crossed my mind.
Bradley Nole
Where you from? Guessing Ohio?
Whoa, we didn’t ask you that.
@@fogtown3027 woah who asked you to say if we asked him that ?
The problem is, you don't even have to think about trying it. You get into an accident, or have a medical emergency requiring pain meds, and you'll understand (or at least I did). I got off them, but alcohol was my replacement drug, and I'm currently trying my best to get off that.
I'm a musician. Once smoked some opiates in a joint. Spent the next couple of hours playing guitar and feeling like i was at my most creative point in my life. Figured that was a road i didnt want to go down and never tried again.
RIP Layne Staley. They should totally have Jerry Cantrell on!
Rest in peace Bradley nowell the legacy lives
As a musician who has struggled with drugs my entire life and heroin specifically for long enough, the truth is, it’s all true, all the stories about muses from Ancient Greece and so on. It’s that release of the same chemicals associated with falling in love, in that honeymoon, everything is right with the world phase, where there are no boundaries and THAT is the place where the greatest songs are written, the greatest art is created. The problem is that to get there without achieving enlightenment or some shit, it slips away from you, crumbling under the weight of your own fragility. And so we set out in search of the fabled Avalon or El Dorodo until it inevitably kills us. Because some things and places aren’t meant to be experienced now. Some things are best kept for eternity. But that never stopped anyone from looking anyway.
I agree I think the long-term downside is that everything becomes a chemical reaction in your brain
Sunway realize love is just the same chemicals coming out in a different way I understand that goes along with using.
You wanna block the shame while compounding more shame in the process.
You absolutely nailed it... the searching... getting glimpses of the unattainable... it's truly magical... things that help us see or open doors..
Wow
"Greatest songs are written", what a load of bs, Blackmore never did this crap and wrote Pictures of Home and Stargazer, Bach never did this s*** and wrote Brandenburg Concert n. 4 in G Major, Beethoven never did this s***, Botticelli never did this s***. Stop glamourizing being a degenerate pos.
Beautifully said ❤
Iam 45 now ,i remember being 15yrs old stoned at one of my mums friends house partys talking to one of them ,who was a recovering heroin addict and the way this person was from all the years of abuse it really freaked me out...
I would have never done DMT without Rogans description of it.
Damn, never expected Joe to talk about Alice In Chains, hopefully Jerry will be on the pod
I don't take any drugs but I have often wondered why so many of my favourite songwriters are/ were heroin addicts. I've tried to look into this and my theory is: unrequited love is one of the strongest emotions and a huge source of songwriting inspiration. I've heard the first time you inject heroin it feels like a constant orgasm, but you never get that same feeling again. In my head this would feel similar to the rush of discovering a new love only to find out they will never love you and will only destroy your life.
I used to do drugs but even in those days to do heroin was just so taboo, as an adult in recent years I’ve met several “normal” people you’d never imagine did heroin that were or became addicts.
I saw a pretty good documentary on Hendrix. I’m pretty convinced he was murdered and according to some who knew him or more about him, they claimed he never messed with heroin. Probably drugged and “drowned” in wine according to this interesting documentary made probably in the late 90’s.
Heroin takes you to a dream state where the creative in you can flow. In a different way than any other psychedelic .
You might make a pothead angry to admit that there are other things out there that enhance creativity without causing much anxiety. I don't know it's all body chemistry we all like different things but we're all in groups. And some things are indeed worse than others.
Facts
@@graciegjj I have smoked pot quite a bit when I was younger it does not make you more creative 😂😂
@@timpowers6876 haha that's what some say though. I don't like the stuff I really wish I did though. Unfortunately my DNA loved alcohol so these days I try to stay far away from it. I mostly just try to work hard and stay sober and if I want to use something I like kava and kratom.
Lost my best friend and a lot of years to heroin addiction. It starts insidiously and you don't realize how much trouble you're in until you're way too far in. It not only kills pain but also kills anxiety, doubt, pain, guilt, etc. It's a dangerous and horrible world.
Heroin here we in... hear me men.... 💪🏽 #JOHNNYX100 MUSIC 🎶
Opiates like Heroin constrict pupils, they don't dilate stimulants like Coke or Meth dilate. Sounded good when he said it quite a story teller
Yeah lol, you don’t get wired or have super senses on the H. Either eyelids are really low or straight out on the nod.
I love Pauly. Jury Duty and BioDome still hold up. He's awesome
1000%
I'm an addict recovered 8 years. When I used to do dope playing guitar became 10x easier, me and my buddies would get high and shred up riffs we would have never dreamed of. It is really weird, we would call it musical steroids, mind you it comes at a devastating cost.. perhaps this is what they meant by he traded his soul to the devil in order to play guitar?
Shit.
Steve Vai
Could you remember or even do those riffs later on when sober?
@danc3693 God no 😂 unless I made a conscious effort but it's like my hand was playing the music and I was just as suprised as my buddies were lol
@@tubeofnoob4683 It's still your brain doing it of course, it's possible you were slightly depressed/dysthymic and the high made it go away so you could play properly to your ability.
You pay the price to get in that zone of creativity, next level
I was a heroin user for probably 10 years and honestly the reason why people do heroin is ...... its awesome. But only as long as your money lasts and you have a steady supply. When you have heroin you're on top of the world. The problem is that eventually everyone runs out and crashes into the wall. It's not a question of if you will crash the wall it's just a question of when you will crash the wall.
Anxiety causes people to make irrational decisions. Being a musician can cause anxiety which makes them seek a way to kill the anxiety. Heroin works very well for anxiety because it numbs and kills your nerves. When you stop doing it your nerves start to grow back which is why withdrawal is extremely painful physically as well. It starts with prescription meds from the Dr..
Jerry wrote a lot of those lyrics.
Morrison, Cobain, and Shannon Hoon; most of us have heard as much that they used heroin. I had never heard too often that Jimi Hendrix used it. I saw one friend of mine zoned out on the stuff and later noticed the same aloof, slow speech in a Morrison interview. So, believe it. Jim was cookin' with a spoon. For those on the needle, go back to weed. At least you have a chance at quitting. One guy we're missing still because of heroin is a true Irish hero, we still revere to this day: one Phil Lynott.
A friend of mine went through heroin addiction and getting clean. It's serious shit.
Please interview Jerry Cantrell
I’m a decade clean now but spent several years addicted to heroin - all heroin or any opiates do is make you feel enveloped in a tremendous sense of comfort, mostly physical but mental as well - a sense of well being. You could be sitting on a sidewalk but feel like you’re in the most comfortable bed you’ve ever laid in, but imagine that tremendous feeling of comfort coming over you in a rush as you feel the drug circulate through your bloodstream. This is why people do heroin, it has no creative benefits like psychedelics . It definitely doesn’t make people more interesting or fun to be around, definitely not more talented lol just turns people into addicts
It also doesn’t dilate pupils like Joe says with the pool player story, it makes pupils very small like pinpoints.
Thank you, well thought out..and written... ✌️
Yeah it's a really selfish drug in that sense. It's all about numbing your insides and there's no external benefit. It's just pure escapism.
I hate that everyone gets that wrong. You watch movies like Requiem for a Dream and every time they shoot up it shows their pupils dilate; literally the opposite of what happens. You’d think if you were going to make a movie about heroin you might want to get the details of the experience correct.
I hurt myself and ended up on heroin from vicodin within 2 years. My dad died of an overdose when i was 9, so i come by it honestly.
Pauly nailed it when he played Stephen Miller. Been a fan ever since.
Rogan: "His pupils were totally dilated"
Also Rogan: "I always tell the truth"
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But your pupils get smaller on H
@@laspar3462 I know there like pin needles totally constricted
😂 I see what you did there and the majority of peeps don't understand the absolute golden gem you just laid out