The Biggest Difference of How Women Treat The 3 Tiers of Men

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    ▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    00:00 - Teaser
    00:31 - Intro
    02:25 - Women Put Men in 3 Categories
    08:37 - Never Jestermaxx as a Man
    15:09 - Be 100% Direct When Approaching Women

Komentáře • 566

  • @Jay-ef2ii
    @Jay-ef2ii Před rokem +295

    Insight: Every man wants to date and marry a great-looking lady who has Penthouse model looks but if she does not like the way you look from the very beginning then everything is DEAD. Just move on. Don't be her Clown. You already know if she likes you (within the first 5 minutes). Life is beautiful because you are alive but it too is sad if the woman you like does not like you at all. You can't force things. If the Woman loves you then she will go to the ends of the earth for you. I have lived this as a man. It's awesome when a hot chick pursues you for Love. For that, you need no game. It is a wonderful feeling. Sounds cliche, but may true love come into your life, and don't seek women who don't seek you, period. July 12, 2023. USA

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem +8

      💯💯

    • @josephcieplak8920
      @josephcieplak8920 Před rokem +11

      If a woman is overly obcessed with you she acts as if she doesn't have any kind of self respect for herself whenever you ignore her, she talks about you to all her friends, if she defends you from whoever speaks badly about you, and she has you on her mind 24/7, shee acts as if nothing whenever you call her names, does that mean she's into you?

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem +7

      @@josephcieplak8920 Oh yeah definitely, i had a girl acting like that towards me.

    • @Jay-ef2ii
      @Jay-ef2ii Před rokem +14

      @@josephcieplak8920 True love does exist, and I have lived it, but unfortunately many people at times or many times, and I say this with humility don't have the right chemistry with hot Women. I say this nicely, but I do have that chemistry. Many men are just spending too much money on Fast hot women but that love fades and many men don't see that yet, but they will once their wallet is thin (as well as she being out the door). I don't care if a person has an Ice Cream business, but he will lose. A man can't negotiate love with cash. It's a dead end. It's nothing but lost time and lost burned money. Pride is huge in men, and it too is their downfall. If the Woman likes you then she will seek you, period. This last phrase that I typed is like blasphemy for men, but Women pick, decide, and marry. July 12, 2023. USA.

    • @antoniobrasse7157
      @antoniobrasse7157 Před rokem

      No intelligent man wants to marry a penthouse model looking woman. Smart men want a great looking woman that is more girl next door, not maxim model. Because smart men are looking for a wife, a mother and a freak in bed. These model looking chics usually lack all of these qualities.

  • @tayburns4316
    @tayburns4316 Před rokem +278

    Yeah if she is single and doesn’t want to date you after showing intent then move on fellas.

  • @handsomeX
    @handsomeX Před rokem +208

    The problem with jestermaxxing is that you're constantly expected to keep up the act. It becomes a huge part of who you are, so when you're not doing it, people are gonna ask whats wrong. Even though all you're doing is just acting "normal".

    • @kotvicz
      @kotvicz Před rokem +3

      I can feel it

    • @JC-fx3wh
      @JC-fx3wh Před rokem +3

      That's true I've seen it with my friends.

    • @rogerbampino
      @rogerbampino Před rokem +3

      *Slurp!.. slurp!.. on Chad chong* *turns round* 'Whats wrong babe you don't seem yourself these days' *turns back* *Slurp! slurp!* ..

    • @honestwaffles
      @honestwaffles  Před rokem +53

      Exactly! Furthermore it comes across as a surprise when you inevitably have to change the direction of the conversation and try to make things romantic. It’s not logical to start by jestermaxxing for 2 hours then suddenly going for the kiss

    • @metiupapluch
      @metiupapluch Před rokem +1

      100% right

  • @DavidW-ng5zv
    @DavidW-ng5zv Před rokem +80

    I once asked out a woman who told me I was good looking.
    Unfortunately, her husband then took a swing at me.

    • @thelostvagabond7830
      @thelostvagabond7830 Před rokem +11

      Never let them know you're next move💀

    • @rrwa7052
      @rrwa7052 Před rokem +3

      😂😅🤣

    • @chrisjudd6
      @chrisjudd6 Před 5 měsíci

      A woman who says that in front of her husband is for the streets.

    • @Jay-ef2ii
      @Jay-ef2ii Před 2 měsíci

      @@rrwa7052 Sad story. The woman has someone but she called you hot. Sad. June 2024.

  • @dylanfrazer4429
    @dylanfrazer4429 Před rokem +78

    Being friendzoned is best case scenario for sub 5 males. Also many sub 5s think theyre funny but dont realise that people are laughing at them, not with them

    • @thelostvagabond7830
      @thelostvagabond7830 Před rokem +6

      I agree reality is brutal

    • @dylanfrazer4429
      @dylanfrazer4429 Před rokem

      @thelostvagabond7830 "I think the saddest people always try the hardest to make people happy because they know what its like to feel absolutely worthless and they dont want anyone else to feel like that" - Robin Williams.
      This quote explains the jestermaxxing of sub 5 males

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 Před rokem +10

      Most sub 5s won't even be friend zoned.

    • @thelostvagabond7830
      @thelostvagabond7830 Před rokem

      @@user-ln3jy4oc9t im not trying to assume anything but maybe your look isnt the problem but your personality

    • @hyemuhyemu8221
      @hyemuhyemu8221 Před rokem +7

      One of the mistakes alot of guys including me in the past is that girls often giggle for no reason when they like you, laugh at stuff that isnt funny. In the female mind, they are feeling butterflies, are happy asf and feeling nervous, and trying to impress you, so that makes them laugh for no reason. Many times i have them making eye contact and giggling before i even open my mouth

  • @Highwayman589
    @Highwayman589 Před rokem +104

    Solid gold. I hadn't heard the term jestermaxxing before, but it is now in my vocabulary forever.

    • @JsPerspective
      @JsPerspective Před rokem +9

      Must be a U.K. term. A first for me too

    • @louisgribben2933
      @louisgribben2933 Před rokem +4

      It hit home lol

    • @ahmedbokhari7048
      @ahmedbokhari7048 Před rokem +18

      ​@@JsPerspectiveNo it is an incel term.

    • @YTT718
      @YTT718 Před rokem +18

      I've been using the term court jestering for women for years...When you read their bios they always say stiff like" don't be boring" "entertain me" I've responded with "men aren't your court jester"

    • @JsPerspective
      @JsPerspective Před rokem +2

      @@ahmedbokhari7048 I guess. Idk

  • @whereeaglesdare9584
    @whereeaglesdare9584 Před rokem +21

    Guys use the 1-10 scale.
    Women use the 0 and 1 scale.

  • @KaiserBP
    @KaiserBP Před rokem +308

    The blackpill has kinda killed my libido in a way. Was out with friends at a bar and it was flooded with women. My friends kept thirsting over them and pointing out women they thought were hot. I don't think I looked at even one chick. My eyes were on the tv screen watching UFC290 the whole night. It's so strange being BP aware around normies. Understanding the dating market and where your genes fit in as a man makes one feel dead inside.

    • @quincy189
      @quincy189 Před rokem +94

      you already know if you have a chance or not and can predict even if your friends got a shot or not

    • @konrad07dre
      @konrad07dre Před rokem +117

      UFC290 was probably far more enjoyable than a conversation with any of these „approachable” chicks

    • @quincy189
      @quincy189 Před rokem +9

      @@konrad07dre ufc 291 is stacked

    • @albertwesker8883
      @albertwesker8883 Před rokem

      I don't think it kills libido as much as it helps you control your libido better. I actually think it's a good thing. Not sure if you ever watched LooksMaximus back in the day, but he said that wymen at bars and nightclubs are there SerotoninMaxxing. They are just there for men to gawk at and fawn over them. They are showing off something they don't intend to give to anyone (except Chad or rich guys). Blakpill makes you aware of this and your social life becomes better because you don't get sucked into their attention vortex. 90% of wymen are bars and nightclubs are just their for attention and will BTFO any normie guy that approaches them. Blakpill makes you aware that they only want Chads looking at and approaching them.

    • @KaiserBP
      @KaiserBP Před rokem +40

      ​@legendarybaldingindianjanitor and it's so brutal that you can't even inform them. They are so clueless and bluepilled.

  • @thxcaze1416
    @thxcaze1416 Před rokem +134

    A quick Tipp to minimise rejections:
    Just approach the women that hold eyecontact with you, the will most likely want you to approach so your are good to go. I actually asked one if she wanted my number because she smiled at me and she said yes, it went smoothly

    • @Jay-ef2ii
      @Jay-ef2ii Před rokem +9

      @thxcaze 1416 : You are right but many men don't want that selection. They want their picking of the Woman. Your answer is awesome, but many men don't want a 6 or a 7 Woman but want a 10-woman for a Romance. July 12, 2023. USA.

    • @josephcieplak8920
      @josephcieplak8920 Před rokem +2

      Then I can ask for a bunch of numbers since I get a lot but a lot of prolonged eye contact. sometimes I am forced to lower my sight since i start feeling kinda unconfortable.

    • @mikebingham9700
      @mikebingham9700 Před rokem +9

      Never give YOUR number to a woman. That shows you have no confidence... She will never call you. You just lost her.

    • @thxcaze1416
      @thxcaze1416 Před rokem +2

      @@medivation8728 Really is it that bad? I think I look pretty average and I can hold eyecontact with every second girl my age and I either get a humble smile back or confusion because they think I want to ask them something like directs or something

    • @josephcieplak8920
      @josephcieplak8920 Před rokem

      @@thxcaze1416 They act as if they expect something else from me but don't get it back!! like some sort of reaction or something idk. some other do like bumping into me on purpouse. generally speaking I'm nicely treat by women and highly respected and feared by men who don't even know me

  • @zeofromthefuture
    @zeofromthefuture Před rokem +47

    this is probably why direct game is the best for average men, you let your interest known pretty early in the interaction, if they decline then skidaddle

  • @jawlig
    @jawlig Před rokem +45

    The difference in treatment based on attractiveness becomes even more potent in the workplace if women are your superiors. While working in corporate, the best employee in my team was constantly treated coldly and given no recognition. Meanwhile, the simplest action from me was met with plaudits, smiles and gushing. At one point, the other guy was literally doing my job for me because he was more capable, and my boss could tell I was doing jack-shit, but had no issue with it. Yet the smallest slip-up from him would be punished immediately.
    Corporate is filled with insecure, sexually frustrated women in their 30's/40's. I was always invited to bar sessions with seniors who were levels above my pay grade and wouldn't let me pay for drinks. And at the end of the night they'd try their luck to stay over at mine, saying things like "I've locked myself out of my house, what will I do??" or "what's your place like, you live nearby right?"
    My entire time at that place was just women wanting their pound of young flesh and men being offish/cold towards me because they were wise to what was going on.

  • @MatiKosa
    @MatiKosa Před rokem +68

    I am by no means a cold approach expert, but I did my fair share of approaches and this is what I've found so far: the "right of the bat" approach proposed in this video will almost always fail. Reason? you catch the woman off guard, she goes into defensive mode, meaning she will almost always reject you, even when there was a chance, had you played it in a bit calmer way. My estimation of the time needed to get her initial approval and trust is around 2-3 minutes - that's the minimum conversation length required for her to at least trust you on some level. And THEN you go from there, you can say it's nice talking to you and I would like to get to know you better - on the one hand, you don't need to state that oh my god, you are so hot, I want to date you! But on the other hand you can't be beating around the bush as well, it's somewhere in the middle, that uncertainty might actually trigger a curiosity within her.
    Also remember: all of those videos where pua coaches tell you: oh, you have lost the set, you should have generated more emotions - that is mostly bullshit. I am not saying your game is irrelevant, but it is highly overrated. More important is how you handle the whole conversation, if you can approach a girl in a confident, yet relaxed way and present yourself as a cool dude, who is not desperate. And of course how you look, how are you dressed, how do you smell, your posture, your voice, etc. Then be funny, a little bit flirty, be able to hold a regular conversation, but don't do it for too long as well before moving on. If a girl likes you, she will happily give you her number and agree for a date.
    You will very quickly notice if she is not interested in you, basically within first 2-3 sentences. Then you don't even have to ask her for a number, you can just say goodbye and off you go. One of the most stupid rejections that I got (like 3 times!) was something like: uuu yyyy, maybe later, maybe next time we see each other - LOL, as if bumping into each other wasn't rare enough.

    • @MatiKosa
      @MatiKosa Před rokem

      @@jessejames3660 That's what I'm talking about, you CAN'T be too direct, else you will scare the poor girl away. You need to be friendly, approachable, yet funny and confident - a nice blend of great features. Women love guessing and not knowing, the element of secret will play in your favor.
      IMPORTANT! So initially you talk to her CASUALLY. Why? Because you don't even know her! Maybe she has weird voice, crooked teeth, maybe she stinks or has an IQ of a snail or is covered with weird tattoos. You don't know any of that. I can't tell you how many times I have approached a girl, but then I was like: ABORT THE MISSION!
      Same with going on a date, you as a man want to present the best version of yourself, but don't be a clown god dammit! She should also put some effort to encourage you. Think of it as a job interview or a business meeting - yes you want the job/deal, but it's only you who should convince - the other side should also give your arguments for why you should work for them.
      That immediately puts you in a different, more relaxed and independent position. You can ask her out, but you don't have to if she will turn out to be a weirdo.

    • @ngpdreamteam2k4
      @ngpdreamteam2k4 Před rokem +3

      Totally disagree. Wheat waffles advice is on point. If you tell her your intentions out the gate her reaction to it will tell you her interest level. I do it all the time.

    • @MatiKosa
      @MatiKosa Před rokem +12

      @@ngpdreamteam2k4 Will work only if you are an absolute Chad and she is all over you. Else it might be simply too fast. But well, do what works for you.

    • @wheelfan100
      @wheelfan100 Před rokem +4

      ​@@ngpdreamteam2k4In this day and age you don't wanna give any ammunition that might be used against you if she feels threatened and puts you category one. Especially at work or school

    • @citizen762
      @citizen762 Před rokem +3

      one of the best approaches I’ve heard of was told on a short clip by a woman of what happened to her being basically that an average guy approached her and told her that he thought that she was beautiful and just thought that he should tell her that he would love to go out with her if she was interested, but if not, it was OK and that he hoped that at the very least that he had made her day. She said that she did say no but afterwards she almost went back to find the guy and accept because it was so “sweet”. So perhaps a good strategy is to ask but yet don’t expect anything in return, and they might surprise you.

  • @Elvenxtales
    @Elvenxtales Před rokem +32

    Your content contains the most truth within the manosphere most red pill
    CZcamsrs says that blackpill content encourages ppl to forget
    Self improvement but in reality its completely the opposite.

    • @ashleyoasis7948
      @ashleyoasis7948 Před rokem

      He’s got crapper his last content was better u must be new

    • @Gaudzilla
      @Gaudzilla Před rokem +3

      He’s more crimson than black, genuine black pill focuses super fucking heavily on genetics and how pre-determined your life is. Wheat def gives more hope than genuine black pill channels like DBDR and ITV.

    • @Elvenxtales
      @Elvenxtales Před rokem

      @@Gaudzilla agreed 👍

    • @ashleyoasis7948
      @ashleyoasis7948 Před rokem +1

      @@Gaudzilla lol hope you mean Cope

    • @yahudi7253
      @yahudi7253 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@GaudzillaYeah you have to start selling copes to earn

  • @tayburns4316
    @tayburns4316 Před rokem +10

    Appreciate the honesty wheat!

  • @rogerbampino
    @rogerbampino Před rokem +37

    Young prime women would rather be alone in a house with a guy with a Ted Bundy resume if he looks like Zach Efron, rather than a normal sub 5 guy. Let that sink in...

    • @cameron2900x
      @cameron2900x Před 10 měsíci +3

      don’t shame women for having standards and preferences 😡 😡😡😡😡

    • @williamlevy6964
      @williamlevy6964 Před měsícem

      They are literal psychopaths. lmao

  • @Lol-fo2zq
    @Lol-fo2zq Před 2 měsíci +3

    Your description of jestermaxxers perfectly applies to my friends whenever we go out. They will always find a random group of girls, hang out with them for up to several hours despite receiving zero choosing signals, and then get disappointed when the girls eventually leave without them.

  • @bjornbboy
    @bjornbboy Před rokem +5

    Wheat, you are the most intellegent guy I have ever seen! The way you can explain this is next level, you are WAY ahead of everyone

  • @spino1i
    @spino1i Před 7 měsíci +5

    I'll add that for some women they just have 2 catagories: the bottom 90% are creeps and the top 10% are lovers, and there is no jestermaxxing catagory. Its surprisingly easy even as a very good looking guy to end up in the creep zone in these situations.

  • @cpol4391
    @cpol4391 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I do like your direct approach framework. The lines are direct and to the point!

  • @mr.soundguy968
    @mr.soundguy968 Před rokem +17

    The way women treat normies is perhaps even more brutal than the way they treat subfives.

  • @goranvuletic8873
    @goranvuletic8873 Před rokem +20

    There's a good test to see how young girl categorize you. If you happen to go to a group tourist trip with your school or any other group organization, and they start taking pictures, just pay attention to who they want to take pictures with and how "happy" they are on the pictures where you are the only man with a few of them.

    • @sam.r8610
      @sam.r8610 Před rokem +1

      I don't think so esp if u r tourist or if u r going with organisation they simply wants to take photo happily with you just to show respect that's it

    • @jackiechun5817
      @jackiechun5817 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @goranvuletic8873 or if you walk into a food joint and teenage(and twenty something) white girls start glancing at you, smiling,and hair playing. I say white girls bc MOST other colors of vvomen don't really do that MOST of the time. Some will,but white females just do these signals the MOST 😒💯💯💯💯💪🏾🧔🏾‍♂️

  • @Atomic0822
    @Atomic0822 Před rokem +26

    Wish you'd upload more often on your main

    • @djhwty8725
      @djhwty8725 Před rokem +9

      We all do but it’s important to realize that those videos take an immense amount of time and effort, whereas the ones he uploads here may not require as much. That’s most likely why he created this channel. Quality over quantity (with regard to the main channel).

    • @honestwaffles
      @honestwaffles  Před rokem +19

      Mainly been setting up the looksmaxxing program in the last month so uploads to the main channel have taken a back seat. There’ll be one coming in a week or so

    • @chrisruth7057
      @chrisruth7057 Před rokem

      @@honestwaffles ? Are you ever going to do a personality & nerotypacaity score scales⚖⚖ cause it would hilarious to see some of especially the personality scales on some of the entitled 4s that think there 8s & 6s that think there 9s & especially the garbage😬🥴 personality scores on the narcissist Stacies👱‍♀️ & few Heartfelts💃💞 they would even worse scores🤢🤮👹 Me😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @lafleur8414
    @lafleur8414 Před rokem +3

    you look very good today, feelin like you looking better then last videos

  • @zero2blur
    @zero2blur Před měsícem +1

    I was talking to a girl once at a party and she was not interested. So while talking to her, I stopped in the middle of my sentence and turned my back and walked away...I saw her later at the party and of course I ignored her and she ignored me.

  • @kalasatwater2224
    @kalasatwater2224 Před rokem +6

    The best manosphere channel

  • @travis3430
    @travis3430 Před rokem +3

    Absolutely spot on.
    The best thing is to be polite but abit aloof. If the woman makes it really obvious that she likes you, then you've got something to work with.
    When you're in category 3, its so obvious that you're in category 3...its only happened to me a few times. They are all over you like a cheap suit.

  • @CMD_Line
    @CMD_Line Před 6 měsíci +3

    I will never get bored of the words “giga chad” it’s beyond hilarious 😂

  • @bivekhunjan2888
    @bivekhunjan2888 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video mate 👍🏽

  • @kevinwilson3337
    @kevinwilson3337 Před rokem +4

    My advice for guys is to looksmax to your fullest potential then go out and approach. This is the best way to go about it .

  • @simonsays5193
    @simonsays5193 Před rokem +22

    This one video covers all that you need to know about cold approach. This method makes all other men's dating coaches and PUA's irrelevant.

    • @Jay-ef2ii
      @Jay-ef2ii Před rokem +1

      True. The others believe that twitching your speech will somehow help you conquer the Woman of your dreams. The first 5 minutes should tell you if she likes you a lot, period. If not, then move on. You won't win if you don't click with her. July 2023.

  • @brianwaller7383
    @brianwaller7383 Před rokem +43

    Reason why I gave up dating. It’s a complete waste of time for most guys.

    • @Jay-ef2ii
      @Jay-ef2ii Před rokem +2

      May God help you find true love, but it will take time. This video is awesome but this video is brutal.

    • @brianwaller7383
      @brianwaller7383 Před rokem +7

      @@Jay-ef2ii tried god he didn’t help….next

    • @philip_korchagin
      @philip_korchagin Před rokem

      @brianwaller7383
      For all but the highest%. I think the face gives more. Women rated me at 6.7 and I don't get women at all I'm single I'm 19 years old my height is 6'4" ft 192 cm.

    • @renegade2325
      @renegade2325 Před rokem +2

      @@Jay-ef2iilove isn’t real lmao

    • @jawlig
      @jawlig Před rokem

      @@philip_korchagin you will get success based on that height alone. The issue is more you being 19 and not developed as a man yet, so don't worry too much about it now, your time is coming

  • @Yonasbbchu
    @Yonasbbchu Před rokem +1

    Love these contents… hope wheat u can debunk more dating coaches content in depth please

  • @kenlee-97
    @kenlee-97 Před rokem

    Waffle's IS A LEGEND...
    It's obvious to the viewers of his channel
    AMEN.

  • @theotherside7538
    @theotherside7538 Před 8 měsíci +2

    (Good looking guys only guide )- For example: eye contact smile flirty glances, look away - say hello if you are near enough or are confident enough to go over to her. N.B. you don't need to actually speak to her, you can just go about your evening in the bar or wherever you are! if she's really interested she will come over and speak to you, its really not hard, if you have worked on yourself and are "Good Looking Enough" - this will depend on the girl, but if your both looking at each other - you will be - looks wise attracted to one another.

  • @rizalukman7982
    @rizalukman7982 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you very much wheat waffles.

  • @j.aleman2348
    @j.aleman2348 Před 3 měsíci

    I love these slides

  • @sambraham4677
    @sambraham4677 Před rokem +12

    Spot on. I'll never forget her look of disappointment when she first saw me. It was already over from the first 10 second. But then I wasn't black pilled back then, and I called her after the date to tell her that I liked her and want another date only for her to say: sure as I told you before we can hang out but let's also keep dating other people. Till later she then asked me for the date, only to find out that there was a backup guy who didn't want her.

    • @samw7998
      @samw7998 Před 11 měsíci +1

      force the other guy to rizz her up in your place and edge for 362 hours

  • @kevinnelson116
    @kevinnelson116 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You made some good points here, but I don't quite agree with everything. What you describe as jester maxing can sometimes be a guy in the friend zone. Some guys can actually break out of the friend zone over time, either because the woman warms up to his personality through friendship or the guy has built himself up to become a chad. There is nothing wrong with being in the friend zone, as long as you are not putting all of your energy into hoping one woman will change her mind and like you in a romantic way. Another thing is, some women may think you are good looking, but don't like cold approach style dating. Some women care more about things like personality and having things common, and need time for a man to grow on them. We could say some men are like this too.

  • @coffeebreakchat2450
    @coffeebreakchat2450 Před rokem +18

    Reminds me of the old Mystery method, with three stages:
    Attraction - Hey! I'm cool to be with!
    Comfort - I am not an axe murderer and do normal stuff
    Seduction - I want to be your lover not your friend

    • @cpol4391
      @cpol4391 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Mystery was gold

  • @JoeBuck207
    @JoeBuck207 Před rokem +2

    Damn I'm a Jerstermaxxer and didn't even know it thanks Wheatie waffles.

  • @moradtaouati5633
    @moradtaouati5633 Před rokem +1

    I translate Jestermaxing to Spanish then I got shocked BUFFON.
    Wheat Waffles you are the wake up call to most men 👍🏽

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem

      So basically, you should give her the boyfriend treatment before fucking her.

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem

      Don't be the funny guy until you get what you want !

  • @yamatoegirlfan8632
    @yamatoegirlfan8632 Před rokem

    Damn wheat waffles teaching us game

  • @victorvaldez760
    @victorvaldez760 Před rokem +3

    Jestermaxxing got me some action but its really hit and miss depending on which girl you are king after lol

  • @jsvideos2261
    @jsvideos2261 Před rokem +8

    Please review "What Inkwells ('ncels) look like from Stacy's POV".

  • @YTT718
    @YTT718 Před rokem +13

    I got a 3.9 on photofeeler so I have no chance just focusing on making money eating good and living comfortable

  • @SMLEFGFJB
    @SMLEFGFJB Před rokem +2

    I like the walking dead reference in #1 😄

  • @kamellolz7
    @kamellolz7 Před rokem +1

    Guys i dont know witch categorie i fit in ? I rmemeber one time i was with my cousine and some of my cousine's friend i was not social and then i tryzd to make a joke and when i did it the cousine's friend( it was a girl ) she hugged me and make contact with me am i normie ? Chadlite?

  • @thechosenone93
    @thechosenone93 Před rokem +3

    I personally think that men have to listen carefully to the types of questions a woman asks you. Any enquiries about your job or do you live alone or do you drive,these are all red flags/hoops she’s making you jump through because she already thinks you’re not good enough. I sometimes get these questions and now I’m sure that this is the case(sometimes I don’t so I know the woman is usually attracted to me regardless)
    Bottom line: she shouldn’t be asking you about your money if she likes you

  • @adamd9166
    @adamd9166 Před 11 měsíci

    I mean, nothing wrong with a few questions to initiate an approach, but get into your shit asap once the conversation is rolling.

  • @DonDraper7009
    @DonDraper7009 Před rokem

    I had a nice online acquaintance for a few days with a 4/10 girl, curiosly she seemed to be okay with my face, my pictures, she would write me first during the day... unfortunately she hadn't read my height (5'7''), as soon as she noticed she dumped me saying she prefers tall men, and she is only 5'3'' tall... if you don't respect all the basic features that a girl expect dating it will always be a waste of time.

  • @haitameljanaty3468
    @haitameljanaty3468 Před rokem +3

    9:52 Bro I laughed my ass off.

  • @scazab6408
    @scazab6408 Před rokem +6

    *9:48** Bruhhhhhhhh* 💀

  • @dummyaccount7776
    @dummyaccount7776 Před rokem +11

    at 9:47 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mrw23
    @mrw23 Před 7 měsíci

    This is like wanting to get rich but not being willing to pull the trigger on buying investments because you are scared of losing money.
    You will just get older and have nothing to show for it.
    Scared money never wins.

  • @BlackPill-pu4vi
    @BlackPill-pu4vi Před 11 měsíci +7

    I am a solid TWO on the SMV scale. I know full well to NEVER approach a woman while showing any interest, however slight. It's hard to even fantasize an interest when hope is gone.
    I am the walking dead among men.
    I am a man with no past.
    I am the dismal future of many young men who find themselves on the wrong side of a 5 on the SMV scale.
    Blessed are those Sub5s who get lucky and are able to provide for a comfortable living for themselves.
    Blessed are those Sub5s who keep their good fortune for themselves.
    For those who aren't so lucky, be glad you are only carrying yourself and not an ungrateful woman who will always remind you of your shortcomings.
    I am the embodiment of the Black Pill, Apostle of Saint Hamudi, and peer of black pill content providers and commenters.

    • @paxtonwade1
      @paxtonwade1 Před 10 měsíci

      I see all kinds of legit twos that randomly plow all kinds of women. It’s practically all over the place, your mindset is obviously abysmal and while wheats content is premium, I think reading too much into the practicality of this rhetoric is a bad idea.

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi Před 10 měsíci

      @@paxtonwade1 Keep coping. If TWOs are getting "all kinds of women" then those women are the worst of the worst.
      Better to starve and go without if that's all I can get.

    • @paxtonwade1
      @paxtonwade1 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BlackPill-pu4vi I’m not coping son in practice there’s literally all kinds of ugly subhumans getting women, in my experience the only breed of sub 5 to not get anything are the stereotypically super nerdic ones like magic the gathering tier kids.

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@paxtonwade1 It doesn't speak very well of a female who would accept a Sub5's attention. Makes me think of Groucho Marx's famous quote:
      I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.

    • @paxtonwade1
      @paxtonwade1 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BlackPill-pu4vi some guys just truly do not exude sexual energy and others just do or something. It’s probably the best explanation to go by. Besides maybe big skull theory, I’ve tried analyzing the true nuance of it all and I’m telling you it can’t possibly be just an smv algorithm considering how many subhumans casually excel with decently attractive women.

  • @mattmatthewmatchuu
    @mattmatthewmatchuu Před 3 měsíci +1

    jestermaxxing hmmm, is this why girls come up to me and bf expecting us to buy them drinks?

  • @jonathanzuckerman520
    @jonathanzuckerman520 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think jestermaxxing is a hilarious word.

  • @IuHy-hs6ei
    @IuHy-hs6ei Před rokem +22

    I just stopped caring about women and lost weight and they started showing up more ( not a whole lot). I think you just need to show them that you don’t need them and your not going to play their games and that’s it.

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem +1

      💯💯💯💯

    • @jawlig
      @jawlig Před rokem +2

      Getting in shape is the biggest eye opener for how differently women treat you based on attractiveness because you get to experience both sides. When I got into shape, I was told I "finally looked like a grown man". They're not even subtle about it...

    • @seventhkeyomegasghost8233
      @seventhkeyomegasghost8233 Před rokem +4

      @@jawlig Wmn you know already in your social circle, maybe. Not strange wmn, they will think you were always in shape.

    • @ashleyoasis7948
      @ashleyoasis7948 Před rokem

      @@jawlignot if ur ethnic

    • @jawlig
      @jawlig Před rokem

      @@ashleyoasis7948 Although I do believe the "ethnic tax" exists, it's not the be all and end all. The majority of women would still date an ethnic, especially if you have other conventional qualities like height, good features etc.

  • @todesveteran5990
    @todesveteran5990 Před rokem +1

    @honestwaffles
    I'm not a native english speaker and I didn't a 100% get the phrase you said: "poisening the well" ?? Does it mean sth like screwing up your social reputation?
    Because I live in a smalltown or hang out in different smalltowns with approximately 20k to 40k inhabitants and it feels like a village. Young people in a similar age group often know each other (at least by sight or hear because of public events). Different social circles cross each other. The dating market is different compared to a big city and dating rules are slightly different too, I feel like.
    For example you did sth weird or got rejected or some people don't like you, then word gets around/people gossip.
    Worst case scenario: as a result a girl you approached rejects you even though she would have been interested.
    Cold approaching in real life is nearly impossible unless you don't care being the creepy guy.
    A video on this topic (in context of small towns) would be very interesting for many guys because not everyone lives in a big city where you are more anonymous.
    Thanks in advance. I Like your content :)

  • @wrnowown
    @wrnowown Před rokem

    High quality jestermaxxing is underestimated it’s risky though you could get downgraded so I understand why it’s basically an L most of the time or worse a ideological wrestling a woman will upgrade or downgrade your approach depending on the situation

  • @stevenrainer6882
    @stevenrainer6882 Před rokem +8

    Actually for me it's the other way round: because I am married I am constantly friend-zoning women who approach me or with whom I have some interaction with. This constant women attraction drives my wife crazy. She is incredibly jealous despite me being faithful to her for many many years now.

    • @cameron2900x
      @cameron2900x Před 10 měsíci +1

      Don’t let your wife stop you from finding your girlfriend

  • @sroth2021
    @sroth2021 Před rokem

    I will say that men and women talk to each other who they are not interested romantically to form social alliances and what would be referred to as grooming in the animal kingdom.
    Lots of men also just want everyone to like value and respect them. Just speaking anecdotally, my dad will always initiate conversation, speak loudly and make eye contact with complete strangers not because he was interested but because he wanted validation and to feel in control.
    So yeah even if they are not interested in that person romantically they like to get everyone on side as it makes them feel more social security to reinforce their status as a high value person.

  • @schoolworkaccount3887
    @schoolworkaccount3887 Před rokem +1

    What if guys usually have your interests or vice versa? So when guys are approaching women, it could be friendly conversation and both are just enjoying each other’s company? I would think it’s a bold assumption to think it’s always that way

    • @cameron2900x
      @cameron2900x Před 10 měsíci

      Be real. Most men don’t care to be around women as “friends” and women that have men “friends” actually have dudes orbiting them that are waiting for the perfect moment to strike, maybe when she’s sad or going through issues with her boyfriend.

  • @radthibidaeux8229
    @radthibidaeux8229 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I'm a solid 6, maybe 6.5 on a good day with the right lighting. I haven't dated in years, like many men. I've just been working on myself, including hitting the gym three times a week. Being happy in my own skin, chillin with the bros, having fun in life . . . BUT, the other night at the dive bar I hang at (I don't drink, but don't judge those who do) I was standing by the pool table, and the sexy bartender who was not working that night, was standing nearby talking to a friend of mine. She kept moving closer to me,, standing less than a foot away, talking and laughing, and even put her hand on my chest a couple of times as she was talking to me, to make her points.
    I'm confused now. Is this good? LOL. I have no game, but it seems that the gym might be paying off. Maybe it's confidence, or just bigger pecs . . .but it seems I may no longer be invisible to women. Hmmmmm.

  • @poeticsounds
    @poeticsounds Před 5 měsíci

    Alan Rodger curie in his book mode one broke this down

  • @TheHarwoodButcher.
    @TheHarwoodButcher. Před rokem +1

    If being direct can work for the cold approach, then what is it going to be for the warm approach ? 🤔

  • @citizen762
    @citizen762 Před rokem +2

    So I’m interested in you guys opinion. I think that if you walk by a woman, say in the gym, or the grocery store, and you absolutely know for sure that they know you’re there and have seen you and you walk by them within arms reach, and they never look at you or look up and keep their eye straight forward, would that not be an obvious indicator that it’s not even worth the time to say anything, or consider them a potential prospect at all? Because it seems to me that if a woman is interested, she will, at the very least make eye contact with you and nod if nothing else at all, even if no one speaks.

    • @geekiepooh808
      @geekiepooh808 Před rokem

      Naw, why would she be interested when her main objective to go to the gym is to work out, and go to the store to buy something?
      It's like you notice a female in a gym or store and you be thinking this:
      "Hmmm.... I wonder if she's interested in me? Cmon, just give me sign"

    • @patrickjones8276
      @patrickjones8276 Před 6 měsíci +2

      No, you can't rely on indicators of interest. I've slept with more than 20 women who didn't look at me at all or show me any indicators of interest prior to approaching them.

  • @jsvideos2261
    @jsvideos2261 Před rokem +1

    Will there be a scandal (and possible rioting in the streets) if oral micro-dosing of minoxidil is revealed to be more effective at preventing hair loss then greasy, irritating topical applications?

    • @TheBeef73
      @TheBeef73 Před rokem +2

      Good question. But will it spur hair growth across the body? I don't want hair on my back.

  • @leviackerman9093
    @leviackerman9093 Před rokem +2

    I've been jestermaxxing for four years. We've been kissed last time for the first time. After watching this I ask her for a relationship. Then she rejected me. I don't know what's going on. Wheat please help.

    • @honestwaffles
      @honestwaffles  Před rokem +11

      Leave it at that. You’ve saved yourself wasting another 4 years

    • @jayros4269
      @jayros4269 Před rokem +3

      If she rejects you she is not into you.

  • @Kevinleehiltonjr
    @Kevinleehiltonjr Před 11 měsíci +1

    Ive been rejected twice by women. So im batting 100% rejection rate if i just come out and ask. However ive slept with six women. And in none of those did i ask anything.

  • @golfnerd177
    @golfnerd177 Před rokem +8

    I don’t think asking basic questions is jester maxing.. even though her decision is probably made you still need to try to connect with them through common interests. Jester maxing is trying to be the funny guy imo

    • @spartanghost9713
      @spartanghost9713 Před rokem

      💯💯💯💯

    • @jp23193
      @jp23193 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, asking basic questions is way better than saying "I find you attractive and I'm looking for a partner" that's gonna sound desperate asf and if you say that you are gonna have a %99.9999999999 of rejection even with the women that like you

    • @user-sg4ob8ni1f
      @user-sg4ob8ni1f Před 5 měsíci

      @@jp23193 nah. Basic questions shouldn't be asked. It is better to focus on being present and talking bullshit than playing boring or giving compliments.

    • @throwawayaccount6409
      @throwawayaccount6409 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jp23193not if she likes u

  • @philip_korchagin
    @philip_korchagin Před rokem

    There is no flushing in the cold approach, it forces you to leave the "comfort zone", but who needs it? Answer to no one. Let them go themselves.

  • @hyemuhyemu8221
    @hyemuhyemu8221 Před rokem +2

    I can't relate. My success rate is 99% but i only approach girls that give me choosing signals first or they approach me first, which makes my life easier

    • @5678plm
      @5678plm Před 11 měsíci +2

      that's a statement from a chadlite, they receive some attention, If you were a normie or subfive, you wouldn't say you had 99% success rate, you would be rotting with us

    • @Sanctuary_0
      @Sanctuary_0 Před 19 dny

      ​@@5678plm yep

  • @LittleRedRideMeGood69
    @LittleRedRideMeGood69 Před rokem +10

    *_I'm tier 3!_*
    When you're born good looking, the world is your playground.
    I don't know what it's like to be ugly.
    🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @jackiechun5817
      @jackiechun5817 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @LittleRedRideMeGood69 ONLY if you're WHITE or lightskin in general. If you're a 7 or 8,but you're brown skin...prepare to deal with a unique set of problems.
      1) you'll get some 🐦 attention/receptiveness,but it'll be from 4's and 5's(your age range) or the 5-7(but ONLY in the 50+yr old Crowd) as far as white/Latino/asian 🐦.
      2) MOST 5-7's black 🐦 will ignore,avoid,snub you bc you're VERY handsome. Attractive black 🐦 CAN'T stand competing with a handsome black man, they'd rather pretend he's invisible or snub him completely. The sub 5 and Old gilf(and the FUGLY ones too unfortunately 😒) will show you the MOST interest.
      Basically,a very handsome, masculine, BLACK MAN with broad shoulders will get the bottom of the barrel 🐦 (his age bc he intimidates the rest) and the milf/gilf(decent looking 🐦). It NEVER even began.😒💯💯💯🧔🏾‍♂️

  • @hablabamosa
    @hablabamosa Před rokem

    So which category do you fall in, Mr. Waffles ?

  • @Chris_Eatz
    @Chris_Eatz Před 6 měsíci

    Jestermaxxer my whole existence 😢

  • @stevemichael652
    @stevemichael652 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Don’t say “hey I was walking by and found you attractive and just wanted to say hello”. Use that approach but change the wording. This is where game comes into play.
    Let’s say you’re in a bar. You wanna ask her something stupid obvious like “hey do you know where the bar is?” She’ll look at u funny since you’re probably 5 feet from it. You respond “I’m sorry , I just needed an excuse to talk to you bc I think you’re very pretty” smile and introduce yourself
    If you’re outside and you see a girl walking down the sidewalk, same exact thing only ask her for directions to the street you’re currently on. Same response.

  • @spartanghost9713
    @spartanghost9713 Před rokem +5

    I won't jestermaxx, i'll just keep improving. If she comes, Great, if she doesnt, thats fine.

  • @josephcieplak8920
    @josephcieplak8920 Před rokem +9

    That's why I think it's highly important to start associating yourself with people who have achieved something meaningful in their lives, needless to mention that if you befriend someone who hasn't been entirely capable to succeed in or at least learned any modern useful skill in life then it's more likely that that person might not fulfill the genetic or aesthetic requirements needed for a woman to be attracted to that man. I say this because there's no any single day in my life where I could stop regretting the day I started associating myself with a bunch of comic/manga action figure collector geek losers who didn't even know how to properly throw a punch. most of theem had a recessive jawline, most of them where shorts has no muscles or whatsoever and didn't even bother taking a shower they were freaking pack of walking icks. I felt that I didn't belonged there but still I couldn't shake off my mind that uncomfortable feeling of being surrounded by people who were bitter and were always trying to put me down only because I was far taller than them and recived the attention theu were craviong for but neveer ever got it diee to their repulsive appearance... most of them beeside being sub-sub5 with more than 8 congenital issues had relative with mental retardation. I wish I could back in time and fix that mistake that to theses days still is bugging me. I dissaciate myself with short and unattractive people including ugly women who smile at me and I don't smile them back! most of them came from very poor families who have no clue in regard finance let alone business of marketing. families with congenital issues.

    • @JC-fx3wh
      @JC-fx3wh Před rokem

      Why don't you start something new now.

    • @ashleyoasis7948
      @ashleyoasis7948 Před rokem +2

      Sorta abit facist there with wanting to establish some eugenics programme and killing the untouchables that’s never happened in history B4

    • @ninjacortadordecebola1215
      @ninjacortadordecebola1215 Před rokem +6

      You sound like an Austrian dude from 1932 I Forgot his name, I guess it was like adol or something like that

    • @Kevinleehiltonjr
      @Kevinleehiltonjr Před 11 měsíci

      Dude....that is sad. So you associated with these people and pretended to be friends with them? And because they weren't attractive or particularly intelligent you feel like they held you back from having sex? Perhaps so. However with your current intelligence (at least with grammar) I would say most women wouldn't give you much time unless they were equally illiterate and shallow.
      Calling others ugly etc....douche behaviour

  • @zeofromthefuture
    @zeofromthefuture Před rokem +1

    is there a better word for "romantic partner",, im struggling to find a better term that means the same thing

    • @pitcat6577
      @pitcat6577 Před rokem +1

      While you are figuring it out, you can try with something like : I am trying to know more people and maybe something more!
      IT aint great I know but I dont like going straight to the "I find you attractive" part
      Edit: grammar error

  • @FChen17213
    @FChen17213 Před rokem +1

    I can’t even Jester max I am so ugly. I am Category 1.

  • @Alanpoeta
    @Alanpoeta Před rokem

    FAXXX

  • @itaikaufman2986
    @itaikaufman2986 Před rokem +17

    The idea of the video is a bit black and white, Im a normie and i had approaches when women were avoiding me as fast as they could (so it means im tier 1?), and there were times it went great (so im tier3 ?) and yes i agree that most of my life women were frienldy and didnt run away from me so i assume i fall into category 2 but the part of being a normie is that you can be in each one of the categories at times, some will see you as unattractive while some others will see you as an attractive guy, and thats what you said yourself in 1 of the videos.

    • @francisbuckingham7924
      @francisbuckingham7924 Před rokem +1

      And that’s life innit?

    • @philip_korchagin
      @philip_korchagin Před rokem

      @francisbuckingham7924
      It's not life, it sucks.

    • @wheelfan100
      @wheelfan100 Před rokem

      True can attest to this

    • @jawlig
      @jawlig Před rokem +1

      He discusses towards the end of the video that women have their own preferences, so you will get rejection mixed in with success. The point he is making is that by being direct from the beginning, you immediately know where you stand with a woman, so you know if she finds you attractive or not. If anything, the fact you have mixed results shows you've probably been doing it right. If you "jestermaxxed" (such a dumb term lol), chances are a lot of those successes would have been failures

    • @hyemuhyemu8221
      @hyemuhyemu8221 Před rokem

      You know you're a Chad when girls approach you and choose you first. Reading comments like ops makes me feel good 😂

  • @alonsolaw8380
    @alonsolaw8380 Před měsícem

    Be direct hey baby its you and me.

  • @satepestage3599
    @satepestage3599 Před rokem +5

    There’s nothing wrong with approaching women and being direct and authentic

    • @daviddriscoll330
      @daviddriscoll330 Před rokem +6

      Right up until you get called creepy and get thrown out of a bar, gym, end up in HR, or reported at your college, etc.

    • @yahudi7253
      @yahudi7253 Před 11 měsíci +1

      There is if your self esteem drops a bit after 100 approaches or you get beaten by public or worse you are in jail

    • @cameron2900x
      @cameron2900x Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you are attractive sure 😂😂😂

    • @cameron2900x
      @cameron2900x Před 10 měsíci

      @@daviddriscoll330flirting vs harassment

    • @thealternativecontrarian9936
      @thealternativecontrarian9936 Před 10 měsíci +1

      You'll learn. Eventually.

  • @gregpettis1113
    @gregpettis1113 Před 11 měsíci

    Where would you rank coach red pill

  • @michak6951
    @michak6951 Před rokem +5

    9:50😂👌🏻

  • @gonzalezdiego7622
    @gonzalezdiego7622 Před 11 měsíci +2

    blakc pilling left me bleeding on the floor, i am not ugly or sub 5 i am like a 6 aout of 10 and have some advantages in the place i live(mexico) above others for my physical features(im white, tall )and thats atractive for women in a place where the 90% look totally diferent but i still thinking im the uliest guy in earth, and just because of my low confidence i dicrease my final score

  • @zeeh7438
    @zeeh7438 Před rokem

    The responsibility is solely on the man and it all depends on how much he's willing to put himself out there to make a move, despite the chick not making it easy for you. I like the job interview analogy, its good because it not only shows the same process of elimination used in the job market but it also says a lot about you going after what you want, but the employer will only narrow it down to best options out of all the candidates that took enough action to apply. I think as an average man a girl can at least respect that in the dating market, and In some cases then you can then ask for her IG at the very least. You might be able to get your foot in the door and build a connection that way.
    btw, I'm talking in hypotheticals for normies, don't attempt this if you don't look inviting enough to even be a friend, because the only responses you'll get are "yeaaaaah" "okaaaay" *laughs*,

  • @strongest32
    @strongest32 Před rokem

    Hey wheat, how the thing you said in the minute 13:30 - 14:00 correlates with the video you made like 2 years ago talking about "the numbers game" is a scam.

    • @honestwaffles
      @honestwaffles  Před rokem

      Numbers game is only bad when you can poison the well. If you can’t poison the well it’s numbers game all the way

  • @ManUtdfanshavetinypenises

    I know everyone says this a lot but I think in terms of looks I do vary from 6 to 7. I'm going to ask for a rating I hope I'm not delusional 🤣🤦‍♂️🤞

  • @mrw23
    @mrw23 Před 7 měsíci

    The secret to success is to leave your ego at the door.

  • @spartanghost9713
    @spartanghost9713 Před rokem +3

    9:52 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Maxchiko
    @Maxchiko Před rokem +1

    Funny how this dude switched, from not showing face black pill to showing face and supporting dating app . )))

  • @maciekwozniak4060
    @maciekwozniak4060 Před rokem

    I'm very insecure about my looks I have an underbite which I need to fix by getting double jaw surgery

    • @LLLugia
      @LLLugia Před rokem

      excuse mew sorry to interupt, i found you very attractive, i thought id say hello.

  • @tonydiesel3444
    @tonydiesel3444 Před rokem

    Here are the three categories 1 through 4 never go 5 through 7 maybe go eight nine or ten really go chase

  • @pablomoedano7678
    @pablomoedano7678 Před rokem +1

    Rare Wheat waffles red pill video.

  • @jabbaweezy
    @jabbaweezy Před 8 měsíci

    9:31 what you're calling jestermaxxing is what I've been doing for the past 11 months, and 3/3 of the new female coworkers I've had have all made attempts at me. 😂 Now if they were women I would actually date, that would be the true test.

  • @dmitriyg1030
    @dmitriyg1030 Před rokem +9

    Wow, WW is becoming a PUA!😂😂 What a great transformation 😅 seriously, direct cold approach and involving a woman into sexual affair from the first minutes could really work, up to 10 percent of efficiency. But you should learn a lot about charisma and sexual non verbal communication. And have a lot of practice, of course - what pickup artists exactly do and teach

  • @nap871
    @nap871 Před 11 měsíci +1

    the thing you missed is that these jesters then move to doing favors as their follow-up strategy -- helping her move, hanging out (nothing ever happens) etc. and becoming a good obedient errand boy in the friendzone. Never understood these guys. but the one thing they all have is the inability to attract. And Id bet most jesters are bluepill. They have to be to put up with that crap.