Please keep this going. No exaggeration, but this is the best video I've ever seen on the internet. My top 3! Love how you explained a bit of terminology and the pace, animation, etc was spot on. I am now spending my Sunday looking for more of your videos. I'm a runner and run coach and this will help me explain more clearly what happens during a run gait. Keep it going!!!
THIS is how I learn most about any difficult science, Dr. Randale Sechrest. Straightforward, lecture-tone, layer by layer visuals. I hope you still have the time and inspiration to make more. You are helping many of us so much, especially the injured,, thank you, stay safe. 👏
+Ellie Alavi I can't agree with you more, Ellie! I have long searched for a simple, clear, straightforward explanation of the knee anatomy... and at long last, here it is! I am very grateful to Randale Sechrest, MD. (Thank you, Dr. Sechrest!!!)
+Cindy Black Detailed, yet clar and concise BUT I believe there is a very long vein, called the Great Saphenus (sp) vein; it runs through the knee somewhere and is the longest vein in the body.
Cheers for the video content! Sorry for butting in, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you considered - Dinanlinson Rocky Position Approach (Sure I saw it on Google)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for learning how to fix chronic knee pain minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my friend Sam finally got amazing results with it.
@Ellie Great Video clip! Forgive me for chiming in, I am interested in your opinion. Have you researched - Chireetler Shape Creation Rule (search on google)? It is a good exclusive product for decreasing your knee pain minus the hard work. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my mate at very last got astronomical results with it.
@@SpitFireLocknKey "only made accessible to few" The information was never restricted, it was always there in books you could have read but you didn't want to put to effort to, because you thought it had it be easy. Being a doctor is not about the knowledge, but about the reasoning within the gargantuan amount of interacting factors. Even having the knowledge, your judgement requires enough intelligence to implement the solutions you have studied. You sure make mistakes on daily bases and say "oops". You cannot do that with a patient. There is no "undone" button. Why would you deserve to be licenced as a doctor just because you feel like you have the knowledge? (which you probably wouldn't have the patience to acquire anyway). I celebrate knowledge and people being informed, but don't get carried away believing you can become a professional of a science that involves life and death with barely no effort. That is arrogant, delusional and insulting to the medical profession (besides cringy believing it was "restricted", when you could have bought those books as any other person)
Cristian Proust i agree 100 percent its never easy having a license to life of another human being ...one thing to remember, first of all do no harm " primum nil nocere"..,
This is a perfect refresher for certification exams, and great for providing visual aides in any anatomy learner. I LOVE that it is detailed enough to allow me to communicate with Ortho professionals when consulting, yet it is concise and brief enough to keep my studying efficient -- plus it doesn't bore me to tears. I am sharing on my social media site for EMS and ER providers...
I'm a ski patroller and often encounter acute knee problems. I really appreciate the work you put into this video. It is clear, concise and complete and helps me better understand the steps I take in knee exams.
I'm currently troubleshooting my knee injury and this video was extremely helpful in helping me understand my anatomy better. You explained it very simply and clearly and the visualisations helped a ton as well. Thank you very much, Sir!
Hey I just wanted to say that all these anatomy videos are fantastic and extremely useful. I am a student at UC Berkeley and I've been using these videos as a supplement, even though at times they feel like a main lesson compared to the lectures here! Thank you so much for creating these.
I found this tutorial very helpful. As a visual learner, I appreciate the graphics and the simple way in which you explain MS anatomy. I am a nurse practitioner student in Spokane and your tutorials are of the best that I have been able to find. Thank you very much. Look forward to others.
This video is amazing. I am 46 years old and an avid basketball player along with other sports. I have never had any knee issues and I have only heard of others with knee problems and I have heard all of the terms that you used in the video. I have watched it 3 or 4 times and it is an amazing video that really helps me understand the operation of a knee. Thanks!!!
I agree that it's an excellent video but the knee seems to terribly designed. No engineer would make a hinge joint by lashing stress bearing components together!
@@parris50 yes but the same processes and forces that have created this knee that you call “bad engineering” are also responsible for creating good engineers. So nature wins in the end no matter what.
Thanks a lot sir for explaining such an amazing subject . Since last months I'm feeling difficult to read knee joint now I can remember & recall it well during exams . Amazing graphics very clear voice . thank-you sir once again this is the best knee tutorial on CZcams 👍
well explained! Thank you so much! It was very hard to digest and remember when I read on webMD and went thru couple of anatomy pictures. This explains very well almost in a demo form.
I was watching a video provided by Kaiser to understand Knee Anatomy and found it is hard to follow. I searched CZcams of course for better ones. This video clarifies many questions I have. Thank you!
I am trying to learn about certain knee injuries. Without exaggeration this is the best video on anatomy I have ever seen. Thank you so much for your hard work.
Excellent explanation on the anatomy and physiology of the knee! This is very helpful. It was helpful that you spoke slowly to coincide with picture movements. Thanks so much!! Great video!!
Your videos are incredible. I've always been a visual learner, which is difficult when you're doing online school from a textbook, and no teacher. Your videos have helped me tremendously. I also love the way you say "bones". Thanks a million!
I can't thank you enough. I injured my knee (reoccurring injury) while living overseas. This video helped me to explain my injuries to my non-English speaking Doc. Again, thank you. Edit: 5 months later I'm using this video again, same injury. Subscribed and bookmarked!
Excellent video. I know now why I have problems with pain after my total knee replacement. There is swelling above my patella where the muscle is. The pain I have is right in front of the proximal tibia where the muscle from the patella inserts into the tibia. Everytime I step on that leg I get pain there. So there is something wrong. My doctor stated maybe it was referring pain from my back. But I see now that this would tend to be where the sciatica nerve is and I don't have pain there. I also don't have pain where the nerves are. It is very simple using the anatomy of the knee to help me help the doctor to figure out what is going on. Thank you.
Thank you for this tutorial. I recently tore my quadriceps tendon, and had the repair three weeks ago. Though the doctor/surgeon explained it (tear and repair) thoroughly to me, this video gives clarification on what and where the damage is.
The fibrous structure connecting the inferior pole of the patella to the tibia is more accurately referred to as the patellar LIGAMENT (remember, bone to bone) not tendon.
It is actually the tendon insertion of the quadriceps. The patella is a sesamoid sitting inside the patella TENDON. So strictly speaking it is not going from bone to bone. Small point, but require accuracy
@Eyre Borne Lunges often are performed with bad technique and thus creates unstable pressure on the knee, particularly when fatigued. This can lead to poor mechanics and eventual injury.
I have a knee injury and this video helped me alot. I also realised how many mistakes i made that got me injured. As far as the anatmoy of the knee I could say God is a bad designer :)
Excellent example of engineering and creative design. Anyone who thinks that there is no intelligence behind life, just simply doesn't think about it, or they are in denial. Complex mechanical machines are designed and created, they don't build themselves. I don't care if you're talking about a man made machine, or an animal. This is not a religious comment either, religion follows the same premise, making up stories to explain life.
***** I for one don't believe there's any intelligence behind life. I've thought about it in great detail (to the point of having a Ph.D. in Evolutionary Anthropology). I'm certainly not in denial, it's just that all the science points away from there being a "creator". I'd recommend reading this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Out_of_Eden
***** How would you join two large long load supporting bones, and to allow 180 degree movement ? Hydraulics? Hinges? Nuts and bolts? Unfortunately you're comparing biological design, to your knowledge of man made design, using man made material. Did the school you paid to teach you how to create things, also teach logical thinking?
Very helpful and clear explanation of the knee! Doing a project in anatomy and physiology on the knee, and am able to learn much better step by step in this video, thank you!
You have a gift for explaining in ordinary language a substantial amount of theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mechanics of the knee. Like most great teachers, you've got the common touch and know what to put upfront. [That glossary medial= "toward s the mid-line," etc] is actually really useful to almost everybody, and even specialists might benefit from the translation, since it might help THEM when they talk to patients]. And the explanation of how the two menisci actually spread the force and stabilize the transfer of weight from the thigh-bone's paired knobby 'feet" onto the flat tibial plateau makes it very easy to understand how there'd be a problem if there were to be a tear in a meniscus. Thank you. I'm a Pilates teacher and it will help ME a lot when I try to get new clients to understand why it's bad for them to have the knees falling towards each other instead of directly in line between the hip and the ankle. More power to you!
Wow, this wonderful understanding of the knee really helps me understand all the pains in my knees. I'm quite certain that my problem goes beyond worn out cartilage. Thank you so much for knowledge.
10 years old now (2022) and still an amazingly helpful and thorough explanation. How many times can I hit the Like button?
This was by far the best knee-anatomylesson I've ever seen. Thank you!
Please keep this going. No exaggeration, but this is the best video I've ever seen on the internet. My top 3! Love how you explained a bit of terminology and the pace, animation, etc was spot on. I am now spending my Sunday looking for more of your videos. I'm a runner and run coach and this will help me explain more clearly what happens during a run gait. Keep it going!!!
THIS is how I learn most about any difficult science, Dr. Randale Sechrest. Straightforward, lecture-tone, layer by layer visuals. I hope you still have the time and inspiration to make more. You are helping many of us so much, especially the injured,, thank you, stay safe. 👏
This was the best knee anatomy (lesson) I have come across.
+Ellie Alavi I can't agree with you more, Ellie! I have long searched for a simple, clear, straightforward explanation of the knee anatomy... and at long last, here it is! I am very grateful to Randale Sechrest, MD. (Thank you, Dr. Sechrest!!!)
+Cindy Black Detailed, yet clar and concise BUT I believe there is a very long vein, called the Great Saphenus (sp) vein; it runs through the knee somewhere and is the longest vein in the body.
The kneecaps are enough to believe that " say,, Allah is creator of all things, and He is the one ,the prevailing.
Cheers for the video content! Sorry for butting in, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you considered - Dinanlinson Rocky Position Approach (Sure I saw it on Google)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for learning how to fix chronic knee pain minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my friend Sam finally got amazing results with it.
@Ellie Great Video clip! Forgive me for chiming in, I am interested in your opinion. Have you researched - Chireetler Shape Creation Rule (search on google)? It is a good exclusive product for decreasing your knee pain minus the hard work. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my mate at very last got astronomical results with it.
00:39 00:53 medial - lateral, 01:12 posterior - anterior
01:24 femur, tibia, patella. synovial fluid
02:34 articular cartilage
03:30 medial, lateral collateral ligaments
07:19 quadriceps tendon
07:50 extensor mechanism .. like a fulcrum
08:46 nerves , blood vessels
09:46 unstable design yet it must
support the body's full weight
u on the scale ?
If everything in our body was explained in such efficient and clear way we would all be doctors.
Isn't it crazy how information is only made accessible to few? We SHOULD all be Drs!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌💋
@@SpitFireLocknKey "only made accessible to few" The information was never restricted, it was always there in books you could have read but you didn't want to put to effort to, because you thought it had it be easy.
Being a doctor is not about the knowledge, but about the reasoning within the gargantuan amount of interacting factors. Even having the knowledge, your judgement requires enough intelligence to implement the solutions you have studied.
You sure make mistakes on daily bases and say "oops". You cannot do that with a patient. There is no "undone" button. Why would you deserve to be licenced as a doctor just because you feel like you have the knowledge? (which you probably wouldn't have the patience to acquire anyway).
I celebrate knowledge and people being informed, but don't get carried away believing you can become a professional of a science that involves life and death with barely no effort. That is arrogant, delusional and insulting to the medical profession (besides cringy believing it was "restricted", when you could have bought those books as any other person)
Cristian Proust i agree 100 percent its never easy having a license to life of another human being ...one thing to remember, first of all do no harm " primum nil nocere"..,
So true
This is a perfect refresher for certification exams, and great for providing visual aides in any anatomy learner. I LOVE that it is detailed enough to allow me to communicate with Ortho professionals when consulting, yet it is concise and brief enough to keep my studying efficient -- plus it doesn't bore me to tears. I am sharing on my social media site for EMS and ER providers...
Fuck
This is a fantastic tutorial...very clear even to a non-medical person.
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@@deepankumar4603 You're very fucking creepy, you know that?
@@deussivenatura5805 lmao this guy looking for victims to scam in a anatomy video. what a life
I'm a ski patroller and often encounter acute knee problems. I really appreciate the work you put into this video. It is clear, concise and complete and helps me better understand the steps I take in knee exams.
I'm currently troubleshooting my knee injury and this video was extremely helpful in helping me understand my anatomy better. You explained it very simply and clearly and the visualisations helped a ton as well. Thank you very much, Sir!
Oú est la langue française ?
Je parle pas l'anglais
YEAH TEAM !!!
I feel so fragile while watching these videos
+Nayram same it sucks
+Nayram I know right
+Nayram Same
+Nayram I have spent months researching into human anatomy and found a fantastic website at Anatomy Blueprint Pro (google it if you are interested)
SAME
This series of video is some of the best on youtube. Thank you vey much and congrats!!
“I praise you because in an awe-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, I know this very well”
I can't describe how it helps my understanding... The great visual material with explanation boosts my understand. Really appreciate it!
Hey I just wanted to say that all these anatomy videos are fantastic and extremely useful. I am a student at UC Berkeley and I've been using these videos as a supplement, even though at times they feel like a main lesson compared to the lectures here! Thank you so much for creating these.
Hay l am also from there
I found this tutorial very helpful. As a visual learner, I appreciate the graphics and the simple way in which you explain MS anatomy. I am a nurse practitioner student in Spokane and your tutorials are of the best that I have been able to find. Thank you very much. Look forward to others.
The most straightforward and concise explanation I have found so far. Thank you!
This video is amazing. I am 46 years old and an avid basketball player along with other sports. I have never had any knee issues and I have only heard of others with knee problems and I have heard all of the terms that you used in the video. I have watched it 3 or 4 times and it is an amazing video that really helps me understand the operation of a knee. Thanks!!!
Best knee explanation I've heard yet.
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Fantastic video, learned so much, Thank you.
"Tendons connect muscles to bones
Ligaments connect bones to bones."
A superb video on the anatomy of the knee. Clear, easy to understand and very informative. So much better than getting the information from a book.
our creator's design leaves me speechless. perfectly presented. thank you!
This is epic, very helpful, clear and informative, no other like it on the internet. Will go to your channel for all my anatomical learning needs!
Excellent video...very informative. Truly an "engineering" marvel.
Im actually watching this to get ideas for a 3d project lol
I agree that it's an excellent video but the knee seems to terribly designed. No engineer would make a hinge joint by lashing stress bearing components together!
@@parris50 yes but the same processes and forces that have created this knee that you call “bad engineering” are also responsible for creating good engineers. So nature wins in the end no matter what.
One of the best Knee tutorials I have ever viewed. Excellent job.
As previously commented, this is by far the best knne anatomy lesson. Thank you very much for your effort
Thanks a lot sir for explaining such an amazing subject . Since last months I'm feeling difficult to read knee joint now I can remember & recall it well during exams . Amazing graphics very clear voice . thank-you sir once again this is the best knee tutorial on CZcams 👍
Thank you for this video I just tore my mcl and this really helped me understand the knee in general
This anatomy playlist is pure GOLD!!!
I can't express my gratitude enough for these amazing videos I can find on this channel. THANK YOU!
Fuck
A wonderful, very clear and very well illustrated anatomy lesson of the knee.
well explained! Thank you so much!
It was very hard to digest and remember when I read on webMD and went thru couple of anatomy pictures. This explains very well almost in a demo form.
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This is probably the best video on the knee that ive seen! Very simple and clear!
I was having a light knee pain over past few months and this video made me realize the cause of the pain. Thank You!!
One of the best videos I've ever seen thank you
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superb explanation. Thank you!
I was watching a video provided by Kaiser to understand Knee Anatomy and found it is hard to follow. I searched CZcams of course for better ones. This video clarifies many questions I have. Thank you!
2024 and this video is still the most helpful and easy to follow than I've ever seen. Excellent job!
Excellent video.
I’ve always wondered what weird parts there were in my knee
Thanks
Great job Randale! This is awesome for artists to get a deeper understanding.
I have never seen someone has made a video so explanatory with easy understanding way! Thank you 🙏
Excellent presentation on knee joint details
Clear even to lay man.
It’s been 10 months since I broke my Patella and I still have severe knee pain. Thank you for this video. This is going to help me a lot!
How ya doin?
The best 11 minutes of my life.. Thank you for explaining so easily... love your work.
This is a fantastic tutorial...very clear even to a non-medical person.. This was by far the best knee-anatomylesson I've ever seen. Thank you!.
Well explained. Very good video. I do indeed better understand the mechanics of the knee especially together with the muscles
My gosh! This was NOT random evolution, this is a product of deliberate design!
Is that remark ironic?? Or do yo perhaps think (kneeless) fish have been 'perfectly designed' for swimming in water too?
@@DB1956 Sure, no need for knees in swimming, which is why a two-day old dolphin can outswim a nine-time Olympic Gold Medal champion.
I am trying to learn about certain knee injuries. Without exaggeration this is the best video on anatomy I have ever seen. Thank you so much for your hard work.
10 times better than the next best video on this topic. Absolutely beautiful presentation, thank you!
Simply a wonderful video for anyone ot understand the anatomy of the knee joint.
My personal interest comes from multiple injuries and my workouts.
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Excellent explanation on the anatomy and physiology of the knee! This is very helpful. It was helpful that you spoke slowly to coincide with picture movements.
Thanks so much!! Great video!!
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Your video provides the highest clarity in the subject. Thanx.
Your videos are incredible. I've always been a visual learner, which is difficult when you're doing online school from a textbook, and no teacher. Your videos have helped me tremendously. I also love the way you say "bones". Thanks a million!
perfect explanation and visualisation! much appreciated
Fuck
My knee is dislocated now so I am watching this to understand what is happening inside ,wish me luck
Why would you need luck? Your knee is gone
so, how u doing?
The best knee tutorial in the web. Clearer, precise and very made simple. Thanks for the upload.
The best anatomy video I have seen! Thanks sir
I am watching this to get a better understanding so I can design and layout the piston-musculature of my magic-mechanical robot
Your videos are awesome! I wish you had a video on upper body (rib cage and spine) anatomy too...
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You are just amazing at explaining . Thank you !
I can't thank you enough. I injured my knee (reoccurring injury) while living overseas. This video helped me to explain my injuries to my non-English speaking Doc. Again, thank you.
Edit: 5 months later I'm using this video again, same injury.
Subscribed and bookmarked!
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Very helpful, clear and informative, Many thanks! From Portugal.
This video makes me feel like an expert if I can remember this.
Just make sure you remember it.
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The human body is so fricken awesome. Nature is one hell of an engineer. Great video!
This is the Best Knee Anotomy! Now I understand which part of my knee is injured. Thanks for publishing this video!
very useful and well done video
Excellent video. I know now why I have problems with pain after my total knee replacement. There is swelling above my patella where the muscle is. The pain I have is right in front of the proximal tibia where the muscle from the patella inserts into the tibia. Everytime I step on that leg I get pain there. So there is something wrong. My doctor stated maybe it was referring pain from my back. But I see now that this would tend to be where the sciatica nerve is and I don't have pain there. I also don't have pain where the nerves are. It is very simple using the anatomy of the knee to help me help the doctor to figure out what is going on. Thank you.
brilliant, concise. Gives the detail in a way which makes it easier to understand. Cheers from NZ
i needed a simple explanation for some natural therapy learning and you have no idea how much this helped..
thanks a million
Yomna Mahmoud
Thank you for the anatoKNEE lesson!
I'll see myself out
Fuck
God is truly the best engineer ever known.
Thank you for this tutorial. I recently tore my quadriceps tendon, and had the repair three weeks ago. Though the doctor/surgeon explained it (tear and repair) thoroughly to me, this video gives clarification on what and where the damage is.
Thank you, this has given me valuable insight on my tibial plateau fracture and subsequent knee damage.
The fibrous structure connecting the inferior pole of the patella to the tibia is more accurately referred to as the patellar LIGAMENT (remember, bone to bone) not tendon.
It is actually the tendon insertion of the quadriceps. The patella is a sesamoid sitting inside the patella TENDON. So strictly speaking it is not going from bone to bone. Small point, but require accuracy
Now I'm afraid squating
They are great exersice. I do them after my tibia plateau break. Recomend them a lot, they strengthen your muscles and ligaments.
@Eyre Borne Lunges often are performed with bad technique and thus creates unstable pressure on the knee, particularly when fatigued. This can lead to poor mechanics and eventual injury.
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Can we take a moment to appreciate that this is free
At last a description of the anatomy of the knee we can all understand. Great little video. Thank you.
Need to update, now that the ALL (antero lateral ligament) has been discovered.
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I have a knee injury and this video helped me alot. I also realised how many mistakes i made that got me injured. As far as the anatmoy of the knee I could say God is a bad designer :)
Thank you for the amazing insights of the knee Randale. Very Helpful!!
These tutorials are really good, thank you!
I Used To Study Anatomy... Than I Took An Arrow In The Knee
any artists here learning to draw stuff?
Elias Pegilovus
Great video. Clear and complete. Thank you!
It explained everything I need and want to know. Thank you so much. It was so clearly presented.
Excellent example of engineering and creative design. Anyone who thinks that there is no intelligence behind life, just simply doesn't think about it, or they are in denial. Complex mechanical machines are designed and created, they don't build themselves. I don't care if you're talking about a man made machine, or an animal. This is not a religious comment either, religion follows the same premise, making up stories to explain life.
***** I for one don't believe there's any intelligence behind life. I've thought about it in great detail (to the point of having a Ph.D. in Evolutionary Anthropology). I'm certainly not in denial, it's just that all the science points away from there being a "creator". I'd recommend reading this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Out_of_Eden
chrisdukey Have you ever taken Psilocybin?
Excellent video . thank you!
***** How would you join two large long load supporting bones, and to allow 180 degree movement ? Hydraulics? Hinges? Nuts and bolts? Unfortunately you're comparing biological design, to your knowledge of man made design, using man made material. Did the school you paid to teach you how to create things, also teach logical thinking?
***** I've never taken Psilocybin. What's your point?
Thank you for the visuals of the knee structures biomechanics
I'm an artist, and this is invaluable to understand for drawing.
Amazing graphics and even more amazing the simplicity, accuracy and comprehensiveness of the content and its narration. Thanks for this.
Thank you kindly for your time, and for your great efforts.
This is a really good lecture. Animation helps a lot to visualize the structure.
Very helpful and clear explanation of the knee! Doing a project in anatomy and physiology on the knee, and am able to learn much better step by step in this video, thank you!
Very clear and easy to understand as a layperson. Thank you for this!
This was the most effective anatomy lesson.
You have a gift for explaining in ordinary language a substantial amount of theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mechanics of the knee. Like most great teachers, you've got the common touch and know what to put upfront. [That glossary medial= "toward s the mid-line," etc] is actually really useful to almost everybody, and even specialists might benefit from the translation, since it might help THEM when they talk to patients]. And the explanation of how the two menisci actually spread the force and stabilize the transfer of weight from the thigh-bone's paired knobby 'feet" onto the flat tibial plateau makes it very easy to understand how there'd be a problem if there were to be a tear in a meniscus. Thank you. I'm a Pilates teacher and it will help ME a lot when I try to get new clients to understand why it's bad for them to have the knees falling towards each other instead of directly in line between the hip and the ankle. More power to you!
Wow, this wonderful understanding of the knee really helps me understand all the pains in my knees. I'm quite certain that my problem goes beyond worn out cartilage. Thank you so much for knowledge.
This is the best class I have come across
Easily the best video on the subject, thanks for posting!