Trump & Who Deserves Justice | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast

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  • Donald Trump has finally been indicted. We will not be offering you a play-by-play of the former president driving to and from various airports, but we do have an excellent conversation about the nature of accountability in America’s two-tiered justice system and why white collar criminals are so often above the law with Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff, Yale Professor and Co-Founder & CEO of the Center for Policing Equity, and David Dayen, the executive editor of The American Prospect.
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  • @mlegrand79
    @mlegrand79 Před rokem +240

    What's so disheartening is that those that need to hear this likely never will.

  • @reverendblind
    @reverendblind Před rokem +480

    "Only when we recognize that the entire structure is a criminal enterprise"... Man, I felt that as someone who works in health insurance. We've been legalized and granted legitimacy, but at our core, we're a protection racket. "If you pay us every month we'll make sure nothing unsavory happens to your kneecaps, if you know what I'm saying".

    • @SuzanneWho
      @SuzanneWho Před rokem +25

      Has Jon had a show on health insurance/health system? If so, I want to watch. If not, he should!

    • @TheologyVGM
      @TheologyVGM Před rokem +26

      And even then... because of [insert stupidass excuse here] we aren't going to cover that anymore. Good luck starting your go fund me!

    • @reverendblind
      @reverendblind Před rokem +23

      @@SuzanneWho You know, not that I know of as an in-depth dive on the subject. But they should, it's fascinating. My company is the one that engineered the concept in Texas, and did so in good faith originally before turning it into a for profit venture. Now, working on the inside and seeing the corruption and discrimination of the industry first hand, I can't fathom how an idea that's so blatantly profiting off of misery ever took hold.

    • @ceceliavoss9174
      @ceceliavoss9174 Před rokem +5

      ​@Suzanne Who I agree. I would very much like that.

    • @shirleycrane9013
      @shirleycrane9013 Před rokem +11

      Victoria Woodhull claimed that insurance was “blackmail.”

  • @joeanon5788
    @joeanon5788 Před rokem +84

    OK, let say it again......If you steal a little bit of money, they put you in jail But if you steal a lot of money, they put you in charge.

    • @oldtimer7635
      @oldtimer7635 Před rokem +4

      "Bigger the lie/crime, more easily you get away with it". Dr Goebbels.

    • @phanatic215
      @phanatic215 Před rokem

      A man with a briefcase can steal more than 100 men with guns. All the talk about looting during 2020 is nothing compared to David Perdue and Kelly Lofler getting inside stock information about the pending shutdowns, and sold a bunch of stock and made millions.

    • @Gwabbing
      @Gwabbing Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, because people who, for example, shop lift, don't have teams of lawyers and millions of dollars. Not to mention, shoplifting is much easier to prove in court. Enlighten me, what method of investigation would you go about to gather evidence for a white-collar crime? What type of white-collar crime is it? Who is the perpetrator? Who are the victims? And people say studying criminology/criminal justice is easy and stupid...

    • @daniellepearsall4978
      @daniellepearsall4978 Před 4 měsíci

      Explains how Trump got to be President

  • @gustau4764
    @gustau4764 Před rokem +42

    "the epistemology of ignorance". What a brilliant concept!
    I love that in CZcams we can listen for free to a conversation between three such enlightened gentlemen.

    • @24get24give
      @24get24give Před 7 měsíci +2

      and, sadly so true American schools do not properly teach American history [especially the shameful stuff we most need to be aware of to truly understand what's going on in the world today! it's amazing [and sad] how much of that I had to learn on my own!

  • @TheGezzagirl55
    @TheGezzagirl55 Před rokem +186

    ‘Who you are matters more than what you did”. Best line and , sadly, absolutely true.

    • @darthbrandon2149
      @darthbrandon2149 Před rokem +9

      Not only who you are, but if you are white, and if you have lots of money.

    • @matthewcreelman1347
      @matthewcreelman1347 Před rokem +7

      It’s because for some people, criminal is always a noun, rather than a verb. The wrong kind of people? They’re criminals, and it’s just a matter of time before the law catches up to them, whether or not they actually break the law. Because they’re criminals, and if the law isn’t doing something about them it’s because either they’re so shifty to not get caught, or the law should be rewritten so it can go after them. Meanwhile, even if the right kind of people commit criminal acts, they’re not actually criminals, and HOW DARE YOU suggest that those fine people are criminals due to their actions.

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Před rokem +1

      @@darthbrandon2149 it sends that way doesn’t it?

    • @darthbrandon2149
      @darthbrandon2149 Před rokem

      @@juliewake4585 I mean, come on, right? Have you ever seen a non-white person on trial for embezzling millions - or billions - of dollars? 🤔

    • @mk1st
      @mk1st Před rokem +4

      When the bankers and lawyers play golf with the judges we shouldn’t be too surprised with the lack of action.

  • @melt4769
    @melt4769 Před rokem +46

    This was outstanding! Please do more shows / interviews / commentaries about this. It is so important. We all need to learn how we can more effectively disrupt the system.

  • @MerlinGal
    @MerlinGal Před rokem +7

    I would suggest that we use the term "organized crime" for corporate crime, which is an entire system that encourages crime. "Mob crime" is a mirror image of corporate crime.

  • @deltadreamer3954
    @deltadreamer3954 Před rokem +310

    Seriously, one of the best episodes ever! Thank you for succinctly outlining the systemic problems in the United States.

    • @nlx78
      @nlx78 Před rokem

      Them spitballing that Trump set up his business, in the eyes of Qanon believers, to hire people who he thinks would commit crimes (for him) to be locked up is what they sort of already did. When Trump fired one after the other in his cabinet, mind you him hiring them in the first place with the regular: "This is the greatest guy...blahblah" drumrolls when appointing them, they said that he was clearing the Deep State and 'dRAiNing tHe swAMp'

    • @pegm5937
      @pegm5937 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, not just y'all, though. There is much the same at play in other Western countries too. Which, bleh

    • @user-fi7ju4nj9b
      @user-fi7ju4nj9b Před rokem +2

      Fantastic episode, but this is the most depressing video I have ever seen. WTF, America.

    • @Arcwol
      @Arcwol Před rokem

      Yep!

    • @djhero0071
      @djhero0071 Před rokem

      @Peg M other countries have corruption but America is and ever since WWII, has been considered the moral compass of the world. The whole lie of American exceptionalism is that we're supposed to be the good guys (forgive me if you're not American). That blatant and unashamed hypocrisy is why the corruption is so damning. We're not living up to the ideals we tout.

  • @gmanson68
    @gmanson68 Před rokem +151

    Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff is so engaging and enlightening.

  • @IanSizzler
    @IanSizzler Před rokem +492

    I was lied to when I was told we live in a classless society that prosecutes criminals and rewards hard work.

    • @jobnieloliva5358
      @jobnieloliva5358 Před rokem +18

      Well duh

    • @VonnieOdette
      @VonnieOdette Před rokem +6

      Did you not have parents when you were a young adult?

    • @mrvlsmrv
      @mrvlsmrv Před rokem +32

      His parents were probably lied to also.

    • @clarkpalace
      @clarkpalace Před rokem +29

      Difficult to live with. And those that cynically respond to you are cynics

    • @goldmother2238
      @goldmother2238 Před rokem

      You must be white if you haven't experienced this until now

  • @hawaiicarl9854
    @hawaiicarl9854 Před rokem +97

    I still struggle to understand how in the hell corporations were granted rights as a person.

    • @SkatingErinsMom
      @SkatingErinsMom Před rokem +15

      Me too. Citizen's United, Hobby Lobby, and so on...

    • @danallyn7
      @danallyn7 Před rokem

      CORRUPT SUPREME COURT

    • @susanfrancis5471
      @susanfrancis5471 Před rokem

      A corrupted Supreme Court.
      The last word, corporate Personhood.

    • @evanr1784
      @evanr1784 Před rokem +10

      My dogs should be declared citizens as well if they donate to politicians and pay for Supreme Court judges vacations

    • @bokhans
      @bokhans Před rokem

      Americans voted their own enemies in to power and do it over and over again. Why all the guns in hands of people murdering children? Because the majority of Americans vote for pro gun NRA politicians over and over again. It’s very simple!

  • @user-rp1st3nk8y
    @user-rp1st3nk8y Před rokem +8

    John Stewart is a true man of the people, I wish he'd lead the people into the future. He is so insightful and intelligent he could make society so much better it would make your head shake, this man should lead humanity into the future.

  • @angiebear8727
    @angiebear8727 Před rokem +129

    Since when do “billionaires” need to beg for money for defense fund or whatever grift he’s running right now. You’d think his cult would at the very LEAST catch on to that.

    • @RLGanley
      @RLGanley Před rokem

      He is their guy, no matter what he does or doesn't do. The Republican party has convinced them that the Democrats are their enemy, so it no longer matters how much Democrats do for them as long as they get to "own the libs".

    • @markkuhn9315
      @markkuhn9315 Před rokem

      Doubt it. If his cult members are willing to go to his Covid superspreader events at his Hitler rallies at the height of the pandemic & before the vaccine, they are willing, if not eager to die for him.
      It’s a cult alright

    • @snc8537
      @snc8537 Před rokem

      The cult need protection… DT is robbing them blind….they don’t seem to know the difference between right and wrong…

    • @chihuahuasrule1175
      @chihuahuasrule1175 Před rokem +11

      They think Don the con is the second coming and will save them. In their minds, you can't deny Jesus when he asks your for money.

    • @robingourde9366
      @robingourde9366 Před rokem

      @@chihuahuasrule1175 More proof Christianity is deeply flawed and cultish. Televangelists are the biggest red flag.

  • @ps3650
    @ps3650 Před rokem +46

    Remember:
    The system isn't broken, it's working exactly as intended.

    • @susanbengston3208
      @susanbengston3208 Před rokem +6

      Which means it’s seriously broken for the vast majority of our population. Yes, we understand just Who it’s working for- We have to fix that.

    • @susanbloodgood3572
      @susanbloodgood3572 Před rokem +4

      Trickling Down ON US !!

    • @Celestial_Reach
      @Celestial_Reach Před rokem +1

      ​@Susan Bengston this is true. But, how? Too many people have bought into the lies

    • @lawsonj39
      @lawsonj39 Před rokem

      @@Celestial_Reach Who really knows how many people have bought into the lies? Our impression of our fellow citizens is distorted by the fun-house mirror of corporate media.

    • @jacksteel6590
      @jacksteel6590 Před rokem

      @@susanbloodgood3572 ...you're damn right Susan it's urine or something worse.

  • @user-xs5yj3pf4p
    @user-xs5yj3pf4p Před rokem +14

    Seeing Dr. Goff always makes me want to go to Yale.

  • @gafls3151
    @gafls3151 Před rokem +3

    Thank you all for this!

  • @OriginalBernieBro
    @OriginalBernieBro Před rokem +38

    Walmart settled in the BILLIONS for their role in the opioid epidemic and no one was held accountable. But they’ll want to see your receipt upon leaving their establishment in certain neighborhoods.

    • @temitopeej8407
      @temitopeej8407 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Please don’t get me started on Walmart. They don’t pay their employees a living wage. Many Walmart employees need government benefits to make ends meet. That is insane.

    • @Fredrikwikberg
      @Fredrikwikberg Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@temitopeej8407 its sad when ppl that work full time need benifits bc of low paycheck

    • @newnewhutchison991
      @newnewhutchison991 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Ohio received 50 billion dollars and have done nothing. The grandparents who are paying for funeral and raising grandchildren expecially after years of trying to help that family members. And yet the money goes to states who don't give a rats ass about the problem. How many Drs who have wrote prescription have not been arrested much less taking away Thir liscence
      It's all BS

    • @lesleycrimes5580
      @lesleycrimes5580 Před 9 měsíci

      We, the people, don't stand up and fight anymore! We hear what is going on. Like Walmart, and we shake our heads and remind each other how greedy these people are and the system is one-sided, etc. Yet many people still shop at Walmart, they still keep their money in certain banks. They vote for those running for office when they know they are crooks. We don't come together anymore and oppose the system together. Boycott, sit-ins, etc.

  • @magginicshiomoin9810
    @magginicshiomoin9810 Před rokem +85

    Jon Stewart is a national treasure. Erudite and humorous!

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Před rokem +4

      I wish we had the likes of him in the UK. You’re right: it’s a perfect combination.

    • @soliniv1411
      @soliniv1411 Před rokem +2

      Well heck, where do we build his monument?

    • @magginicshiomoin9810
      @magginicshiomoin9810 Před rokem +3

      @@soliniv1411 how about building it at The Library of Congress?

    • @tyronevaldez-kruger5313
      @tyronevaldez-kruger5313 Před rokem +1

      ​@@juliewake4585 You have James O'Brien though. He's not humorous but an eye-opener for Non-British. I watch his podcast and the way he debates and grills Tories & Trump supporters is awesome.

    • @atlasfeynman1039
      @atlasfeynman1039 Před rokem

      @@juliewake4585 Russell Brand?

  • @matthewhiggins2699
    @matthewhiggins2699 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Two brilliant guys with very illuminating perspectives on the current chaos in our country.

  • @seandmoore6922
    @seandmoore6922 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Outstanding. It makes me feel better knowing that intelligent people are challenging and questioning the system.

    • @francoisbouvier7861
      @francoisbouvier7861 Před 5 měsíci

      Unfortunately, there aren't enough intelligent people to convict these entities. Somehow, the exposure has to translate to conviction. Good luck!

  • @juliewake4585
    @juliewake4585 Před rokem +376

    This is brilliant. Under any financial page it would be incredibly dry but with Jon Stewart, with his intelligence and humour, it is very much very easy to understand and stick with. Keep going Jon.

    • @konradyearwood5845
      @konradyearwood5845 Před rokem

      The real takeaway is the fact that 99% of well educated Americans know all this, even though their knowledge might be subliminal, but many ignore the implications and results as they feel they can avoid the downsides. The salvation is in the fact that the next generation will not produce enough blinkered individuals to maintain the critical mass of apathy required for this system to feed upon itself. Although you will have a larger oligarchy, the middle class will be smaller and will ally itself with the exploited masses, especially when they start lubricating the guillotines. Never forget, to gain power today the idiots in charge do not realise those people will still have their AR15s tomorrow.

    • @logancade342
      @logancade342 Před rokem +6

      @30:00 "Bars, my friend. Bars" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Wtiberon
      @Wtiberon Před rokem +2

      It's bullshit, sprinkled with truth.

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Před rokem +14

      @@Wtiberon I’m sure you’re more knowledgable than these academics. Or maybe you just like throwing words around.

    • @Wtiberon
      @Wtiberon Před rokem +1

      @@juliewake4585 Argument from authority. Now I know the intellect level I'm dealing with. Thanks!

  • @GIBKEL
    @GIBKEL Před rokem +168

    I’m so glad that Jon is doing a show that is more than a rehash of our daily toil….but nobody knows how to approach and unpack it better. Thanks for both!

  • @thebeardedlady76
    @thebeardedlady76 Před rokem +36

    Wow this was a high-level, kick-ass discussion! I enjoyed every minute. I didn’t expect such good chemistry between all three of them. I learned so much!

  • @hightechjoe1
    @hightechjoe1 Před rokem +4

    Late George Carlin already pointed it out decades ago. As much as I like 'The Problem', we need another one called 'The Solution'.

  • @coco-pouf
    @coco-pouf Před rokem +26

    ugh I'm so glad you're making the connection of poverty and street crime to wage theft and white collar crime. Even more glad that you're drawing the connection to the trump cases. It is so desperately needed that we understand the gravity of white collar crime, now is such a great time for this conversation. I really didn't think anyone in the media would ever connect the dots like this, I am SO glad you did Jon, and brought these guys on!

    • @akaimizu1
      @akaimizu1 Před rokem +2

      This was so well explained through this debate. They brought a major issue claimed by lowly citizens, on all sides of the fence, and tackled one of the major smokescreens in place to avoid not only the real solutions, but keep the narrative so they will be unwilling to see through them.

  • @sfisabbt
    @sfisabbt Před rokem +50

    In France, we have been struggling with president Sarkozy prosecutions and trials for more than a decade now. I would love to see you discuss the matter with the french journalist Fabrice Arfi, head of the investigation departement of the free journal Mediapart. His journal revealed some of the President affairs, he is a clear expert on the topic and he is an adorable human being.

    • @pynn1000
      @pynn1000 Před rokem +5

      Ex--President Jacques Chirac was convicted for putting his party staffers on the city payroll when he'd been Mayor of Paris years earlier. His party repaid the equivalent of the salaries. Sarkozy's stuff is more complex.

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 Před rokem +1

      Great idea.

    • @jsrodman
      @jsrodman Před rokem +4

      It seems there are healthy democracies (relatively healthy, there are major headwinds everywhere) that are willing to prosecute major politicians like France and South Korea. And there are also those who do not, usually for fear of bad outcomes. The US is attempting, seemingly, compelled by massive and obvious criminality, to transition from the latter to the former.
      I think looking at countries who do it without major breakdowns is informative, but perhaps not as much as looking at others who have transitioned.

    • @sfisabbt
      @sfisabbt Před rokem

      @@jsrodman Yeah, don't get too exited about France, political and white collar criminality is mostly ignored here too. In fact, as a French, I never thanks NYC enough for stopping us from electing a sexual predator as president in 2011.

    • @anonihme5142
      @anonihme5142 Před rokem

      @@jsrodman it took 15 years and he didn’t spend 1 second in jail, or lose his pension as president… or minister… (because somehow they get to add them). that’s in no way shape or form a healthy democracy.

  • @atlasfeynman1039
    @atlasfeynman1039 Před rokem +5

    Brilliant conversation... I'm going to have to watch it a couple times...

    • @Ahtaht227
      @Ahtaht227 Před rokem

      I’m watching for the second time currently!😊

  • @UngoyPrime
    @UngoyPrime Před rokem +9

    Unless lobbying/lobbyists is banned/illegal, make all forms of bribery a crime again. This country will always have the best government money can buy.

  • @indy-dan2022
    @indy-dan2022 Před rokem +15

    You three are brilliant. Thank you. John be sure to hire them for your cabinet. 😮😊

  • @Ericwest1000
    @Ericwest1000 Před rokem +138

    Wow, this podcast represents one of the best public services that I've ever seen. Bravo, you guys!

  • @seanmerry5522
    @seanmerry5522 Před rokem +14

    i really needed this I've been feeling crazy with the world gaslighting me constantly
    .

    • @seanmerry5522
      @seanmerry5522 Před rokem +1

      Seriously one of the best discussions vie seen on this issue. It ties into almost everything goin on.

  • @maryellenfusco5996
    @maryellenfusco5996 Před rokem +13

    One of best pod casts ever! Wake up America!

  • @lf3541
    @lf3541 Před rokem +119

    OUTSTANDING EPISODE.
    All three of you gentlemen...
    PHENOMENAL.
    Thank you.

    • @mikebailey1284
      @mikebailey1284 Před rokem +3

      You got that exactly right comrad! Diddo

    • @winonafrog
      @winonafrog Před rokem

      Yes, phenomenal. Feels like I just had a Graeber book downloaded to my brain 😅

  • @kaceykelly7222
    @kaceykelly7222 Před rokem +21

    Jon, you and your topics & guests just keep getting better!
    We need to be enlightened & informed by you so we can confidently charge toward 2024!

  • @RahSH1
    @RahSH1 Před rokem +21

    Everyone should be sharing this with the people they know. This stuff is at the center of all the issues we face. We’ve been in the middle of a class war for 43 years being fought by only one side.

    • @Gwabbing
      @Gwabbing Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's been on the internet for over 20 years. Nobody cares to look it up. Besides, this isn't compelling enough to be on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News. Only violent interactions involving White cops and young Black men are. Enlighten me with your little brain though. What is the one side's solution to this class war? Ending capitalism? Instituting a socialist society where the merits of your work no longer matter? Should people just get paid the same for whatever level of contribution they make? What's interesting is how the people complaining the most, like Jon Stewart, have utilized that very system to get rich. You're gullibly agreeing with someone who is technically your opponent. 😂

    • @francoisbouvier7861
      @francoisbouvier7861 Před 5 měsíci

      Required listening.

  • @rosemarypetrozzi2145
    @rosemarypetrozzi2145 Před rokem +27

    I am so glad you are talking about this justice system lack of accountability, it is interesting and informative, Thank you!

  • @christinaulibarri4777
    @christinaulibarri4777 Před rokem +77

    Thank you Mr. Stewart, Dr. Goff, and Mr. Dayen this was very informative and good commentary.

  • @frederickkinzler9477
    @frederickkinzler9477 Před rokem +6

    Okay Jon.
    This is one of the best discussions I've ever heard. Seriously. I'm 65 and I've wondered why people are NOT held accountable for all the horrific destruction carried out against all of US and everyone all around the world.
    We must hold these elites accountable OR all will be for naught...
    Thanks

  • @christinelaframboises3705

    This has been an incredibly informative discussion. Thank you John for bringing these guests on your show.

  • @keepthefaith9420
    @keepthefaith9420 Před rokem +133

    For so many years, I've been saying white collar crime is so much worse than any other crime. Perhaps with Trump's indictment, more people are becoming aware of how bad this is and how politics is so tainted by these crimes affecting your personal life.

    • @MC-bq4eg
      @MC-bq4eg Před rokem +10

      Everyone will, except the crazy diehard Trump supporters. They seem to think Trump is above the law.

    • @kevchard5214
      @kevchard5214 Před rokem

      I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for people to see white collar crimes as crime. White collar crime is engrained into capitalism and in the US capitalism is god and can not be questioned.

    • @justinwolfe7381
      @justinwolfe7381 Před rokem +7

      I love your sentiment and hope you're right but I strongly doubt anything will change for the better and expect it to continue to get worse. I have lost faith in the institutions of this flagging country.

    • @CaliMeatWagon
      @CaliMeatWagon Před rokem +1

      "white collar crime is so much worse than any other crime" claimed @KeeptheFaith
      You are right... money laundering is worse than murder and rape...

    • @jeffcarden8710
      @jeffcarden8710 Před rokem

      Seriously, Bookkeeping errors for hush money for affairs everyone knows about. Look at virtually every politician and Rich shrewd business people for worse crimes. Look at Trumps indictment as absolute political prosecution

  • @nicknewman7848
    @nicknewman7848 Před rokem +352

    Thank you, guys. I always feel slightly less alone after these discussions. Keep smiling everyone! Lol

  • @dmillitello73
    @dmillitello73 Před rokem +3

    What happened to the idea that, "ignorance of the law is not a defense"? If corporations choose to delay prosecution to make it prohibitive for government to fight to the end, they need penalties extreme enough to coerce capitulation. It's a broadly embraced tactic when dealing with the poor. Confess or risk an overwhelming punishment.

  • @josegonzalez5307
    @josegonzalez5307 Před rokem +13

    All it takes is a felony charge for most folks to ruin your life. Let alone a conviction

    • @davidanderson8469
      @davidanderson8469 Před 7 měsíci

      Non-violent felons in California don't spend time in jails. They are released quickly to re-offend. How's that sit with you Jon?

    • @Acrylescent
      @Acrylescent Před 4 měsíci

      @@davidanderson8469the guy you replied to is Jose. It seems you might be suffering comprehension issues.
      But I’m curious to know what your opinions are on how well non-violent felons do when they are put in prison? After their sentence they just don’t reoffend?
      Or did it lower the chances of them reoffending when they are given probation and can still get a job and try to become functioning members of society?
      Perhaps corralling felons on the people’s dime so they can sit around not make money, be isolated from society, only have other criminals to converse and connect with, does not give them a great chance once they are released.
      But maybe I’m just a problem solving kind of guy rather than opposition for the sake of opposition. Can’t expect you to get it.

  • @maseboog72
    @maseboog72 Před rokem +8

    I'm at my daughter's house for her second birth, I hope that the baby and they're sister will have a Jon Stewart to spit the knowledge he does. Also, his guests, the information.. sheesh. 🔥🔥💐💐👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @lp7857
    @lp7857 Před rokem +25

    This is excellent. Everyone needs to watch this.

  • @Arcwol
    @Arcwol Před rokem +11

    Easily one of the best podcasts around. It's really crazy how informative these episodes are.

  • @broadsidedarth7801
    @broadsidedarth7801 Před rokem +7

    A topic that needs much more attention, but is dismissed out of hand by most. Excellent episode. Thank you.

  • @doxiesruletheworld
    @doxiesruletheworld Před rokem +6

    @ 18 minutes in - these same Hedge Funds that decimated the communities (via the mortgage backed securities) are now going back in to those same communities to purchase blocks of those properties so they can either charge high rents or flip them.

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower Před rokem +84

    Good education is the key. When I graduated high school MANY years ago, I not only had a mandatory government course to take in my senior year so I understood how it all worked but the class had any student who was 18 walk in a class trip to the town hall and register as a voter at the end of the school year. I still remember how grown up it made me feel and the responsibility I had to vote. I have never missed voting in an election.

    • @susanbengston3208
      @susanbengston3208 Před rokem +4

      Excellent!!

    • @TampaDave
      @TampaDave Před rokem

      Conservatives had Civics REMOVED from the curricula for this very reason.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před rokem +4

      really ? explain Josh Hawley , Ted Cruz , Ron Deathsentence & Peter Theil - they have the finest educations there are- it only makes them more dangerous

    • @fitveganathleteintegrateda1695
      @fitveganathleteintegrateda1695 Před rokem +3

      @@pjpredhomme7699 Perfection or a 100% rating for anything is a possibility, but exceedingly improbable. There may be hidden genetic defects that cause character, that your named individuals and others have.

    • @thisisit3333
      @thisisit3333 Před rokem +4

      Graduated in 1986, senior year we had 2 courses in US History and Politics and Society, and we had to go to 4 (each) school board and city council meetings. We also were given extra credit if we went to the USPS to register to vote. Sadly, I was a newly turned 17 yr old senior. Our midterm was writing a Bill and trying to pass it as legislation. Our final was an essay…‘an alien being touches down on Earth and asks us to explain our government’…we had to describe, in depth, our 3 branches of government.
      I believe ALL American schools should have this as a graduation requirement.

  • @litoxxlito_axx7318
    @litoxxlito_axx7318 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Jon the Don of educating the people of what’s going on with comedy. I actually listened to the whole thing and freaky enjoyed it.

  • @kernjames
    @kernjames Před rokem +2

    The Railroad that I worked for over 30 years constantly stole money from its employees. The Company would break the Union contracts and just do whatever they wanted. An Employee needed to monitor his or her wages like a Hawk, just in order to keep the Company honest. It was very frustrating to endure, year after year. If I or a fellow employee spotted a failure to pay services rendered, or he or she became a victim of some mistake, or a purposeful deceit on the Company's part, one would then need to file a "time claim" against the Company. Then the Union would try to get the money that he or she was owed by processing our "time claim" and presenting the claim and even to argue with to the Company to do the right thing. Sometimes it worked great and one would get the money owed. Other times one would never get the money owed. The Company would bargain for the "claims" instead of merely doing the right thing and paying what they owed. Also, they held onto the employees money, for as long as possible, obviously to draw Interest on the pooled money that they owed their employees.

  • @mikPet81
    @mikPet81 Před rokem +127

    Such an important taboo topic, glad we still have Jon as a voice to punch it real out there

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Před rokem +6

      I used to live The Daily Show but it seems that that just wasn’t enough for him. This is marvellous.

    • @bkm2797
      @bkm2797 Před rokem

      Thinking this is even better!

  • @melanielitman6495
    @melanielitman6495 Před rokem +10

    I wish I could repeatedly "like" this episode!

  • @mmb628jr2
    @mmb628jr2 Před rokem +6

    This Conversation was Gold! Thank all you Gentlemen.

  • @blindvisionary415
    @blindvisionary415 Před rokem +1

    John, please run for office! PLEASE!!! We The People need your service!
    Thank you for all you have done, and continue to do. Much love & respect!

  • @bobbysquinch5085
    @bobbysquinch5085 Před rokem +12

    This is the discussion that need to be on all the network and cable news shows. Stewart, Oliver, Cody Johnston these are the Journalists of our times

  • @michaelratcliffe7559
    @michaelratcliffe7559 Před rokem +7

    So - why isn’t corporate crime considered to be organized crime? (I know why) Corporations are highly structured and generally have a host of in-house counsel advising them on how to organize and structure their “criminal” activities.
    It would be interesting to know how much money is made as “honest” profit vs the amount made from twisting the system and avoiding investigation or prosecution.

  • @jacquelinelamb8962
    @jacquelinelamb8962 Před rokem +10

    What a relief to hear intelligent, handsome men with great common sense keeping it real. I don't feel quite as alone either.😊

  • @northerncousin7862
    @northerncousin7862 Před rokem +13

    To the point made towards the end of the podcast, the lack of elite accountability also encourages more bad actions by elite. If the consequences for criminal actions are minor or missing then many people will try to game the system when the potential upside (lots of money, prestigous university positions) are so great. We are, in effect, rewarding bad actors.

    • @Fredrikwikberg
      @Fredrikwikberg Před 11 měsíci

      sad ..but true

    • @24get24give
      @24get24give Před 7 měsíci

      we definately are and have a long history of doing so; Trump is the ultimate proof of that, remember him saying effectively that "only stupid people pay taxes" or that he'd be the first president in history to come out of the WH richer than he went in? he all but told us what he would do

  • @kgriff5537
    @kgriff5537 Před rokem +83

    High level discussion. John Stewart is killing it.

  • @cbpd89
    @cbpd89 Před rokem +71

    These guests are just fantastic, so funny and insightful. Hearing experts talk and teach in a way I can understand is why I listen to this channel. Well, that and Jon's humor!

    • @trishcooley5810
      @trishcooley5810 Před rokem +1

      Except they are lying about who did what & their intent. And they know it.

    • @foxopolos9681
      @foxopolos9681 Před rokem +2

      I agree. They're really informative! 👍

  • @TesterAnimal1
    @TesterAnimal1 Před rokem +8

    It’s so depressing. The corruption and oppression. It seems to be getting worse and the poorest VOTE for it.

    • @Acrylescent
      @Acrylescent Před 11 měsíci

      Yup. And the Republicans strip education bit by bit to ensure the poor will be easily convinced to put the wealthy’s interests ahead of their own.

  • @dannyomo
    @dannyomo Před rokem +4

    wow. I feel like I've just understood more about entrenched systems--who built them, who maintains them (willfully and ignorantly), who benefits from them, and why--than from any classroom or book I've ever read. Thank you, all. 🙏

  • @MrStumpson
    @MrStumpson Před rokem +10

    It's great to listen to smart people speak and not have to sift through blatant lies

  • @Think4yourself8000
    @Think4yourself8000 Před rokem +44

    This discussion is desperately needed. Thank you for bringing Dr Goff and Dayen to the rest of us! This is nice to see, maybe there is a way through to something better!! more please!

    • @susanbengston3208
      @susanbengston3208 Před rokem +4

      Enlightened and high quality Education for All is the way thru to a Better Way.

  • @parvin46
    @parvin46 Před rokem +8

    Another great segment….mind completely stimulated right now

  • @JT.Pilgrim
    @JT.Pilgrim Před rokem +5

    First time watching. Brilliant! Refreshing to see dialogue that digs right in.

  • @amymarch8221
    @amymarch8221 Před rokem +3

    I wish Jon would run for president, but I think what he's doing on the outside of govenmnet is better for all of us... 200 years from now, we'll have the "Jon Stewart Musical" - Similar to Hamilton, but created by AI :)

  • @Versatilty
    @Versatilty Před rokem +10

    If your wallet is thick you must acquit

  • @france_d_robin
    @france_d_robin Před rokem +30

    This is perhaps one of the greatest conversations I have ever heard. This needs to be shown to everyone because holy they distilled the problem with our society and government in a very disgestable way.

  • @Tonytaylormusic
    @Tonytaylormusic Před rokem +14

    I love this show. I always learn a lot, and somehow we fly over the pit of depression that knowledge can easily bring, at the end of it. I still feel like working towards some thing.

  • @JustSayin6092
    @JustSayin6092 Před rokem +1

    Damn! With everything going on. What are we going to do without you and your insightful guests?

  • @profanepersonality
    @profanepersonality Před rokem +27

    I got a deferred prosecution, for something I didn't even do. I got obstructing a felony investigation for telling the truth that destroyed the DA's case.

    • @Martcapt
      @Martcapt Před rokem +4

      Could you elaborate? That sounds like a hell of a story, I'd love to hear it

    • @profanepersonality
      @profanepersonality Před rokem +21

      @Martcapt , it's not that exciting. When I was 17, I sold a bag of weed to my friend. He was getting it for someone else who, in turn, wore a wire on him. Well, the police were targeting my other friend, whom he was supposed to get it from. The buyer lied and said it was my other friend who sold it to him (who wasn't even present, and he wasn't friends with). He literally had nothing to do with any of it. I didn't even buy from my friend.
      Well, I am around 21, and stop by my friend's house and he is freaking out because he being indicted. They investigated him for four years and had that one charge against him, but he had two from when he was 16, so this was three strikes and you're out. He was not guilty. I read the statement, and remembered that night exactly. Talked my friend that snitched, and he confirmed it was really me but they wanted my friend and he didn't want me in trouble (I may or may not have punched him in the head with keys, he was lying to put a friend in prison). Then I gave a truthful statement to the police against myself for selling the bag. The DA realized he couldn't win the case with my testimony, so he offered a plea deal to my friend that was nothing but a charge, no time, no probation, nothing. My friend took it.
      Then, the DA charged me with obstruction of a felony investigation. I had to write a letter to the DA every month for a year giving updates on my living status, occupation, and do 100 hours of community service.
      It was all pure corruption and bullshit. My friend they were targeting made it through the bullshit, works two jobs, owns his own home and has a fmily now. They would have ruined all of that, just for conviction rates.

    • @Foolbool_
      @Foolbool_ Před rokem +1

      @@profanepersonality thanks for telling ur story was fascinating

  • @tonydimond4263
    @tonydimond4263 Před rokem +12

    Awesome as always! Thanks John, Dr. Goff and Dave!

  • @patrickduty7706
    @patrickduty7706 Před rokem +1

    These talks are so incredibly important.

  • @BossBaeta
    @BossBaeta Před rokem +8

    Amazing podcast! So enlightening! Jon and your 2 guests are geniuses of great minds! I thank you immensely.

  • @fizzedupslade4082
    @fizzedupslade4082 Před rokem +30

    So glad I listened to this. Really excellent discussion. Great contributors.

  • @corinnapetry65
    @corinnapetry65 Před rokem +16

    Great show, as per usual. Thanks Jon and brilliant guests.

  • @bikeman9899
    @bikeman9899 Před rokem +2

    I guess I suspected a lot of this.Thanks for the education in real politic.

  • @MsMars.
    @MsMars. Před rokem +5

    Seriously, one of the best conversations that I have seen on CZcams to date. Thank you. Will definitely share this.

  • @kimbercole2438
    @kimbercole2438 Před rokem +11

    So great to hear you talk about all this! Thank you for helping bring clarity to the mud slinging right

  • @t.c.eisele5262
    @t.c.eisele5262 Před rokem +94

    Some of the most heinous crimes against humanity have been perpetrated by gentlemen in suits.

    • @ateamfan42
      @ateamfan42 Před rokem +6

      "It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind
      of sumbitch or another."
      -- Captain Malcolm Reynolds, from "Firefly"

    • @susanbloodgood3572
      @susanbloodgood3572 Před rokem +2

      Bigger Piggies in their starch white shirts

    • @curlygurl1263
      @curlygurl1263 Před rokem +2

      TRUTH!!!

    • @CaliMeatWagon
      @CaliMeatWagon Před rokem

      @@ateamfan42
      "You're a Dumbass"
      -Harry Potty, from Star Trek the Next Generation

    • @Maya_Pinion
      @Maya_Pinion Před rokem +1

      Or,worse men in robes,women shoving their gold crucifix necklaces in ur face.

  • @megabluex1
    @megabluex1 Před 11 měsíci +5

    You have given me so much entertainment over the years. Thank you for the brief respite in an increasingly disassociated world.😅

  • @sherylskelley608
    @sherylskelley608 Před rokem +2

    Thank You for your support of Veterans 😢 I Love Your show & Your Heart ♥️

  • @chrisnewton5126
    @chrisnewton5126 Před rokem +4

    I was a kid that got one of those "deferred prosecution agreements". In 1977, I was caught red-handed hitchhiking w/ a keg on my 17th birthday. I spent a night in the local slammer and mopped the floor in the police station four weekends in a row. my sentence was deferred.

  • @grittyfaithgrittyfacts
    @grittyfaithgrittyfacts Před rokem +10

    He called Trump "an indictment in human form" 😂😂😂😂

  • @elmeranitathames4611
    @elmeranitathames4611 Před rokem +2

    WOW 😮!!! WATCH THIS AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW WE GOT TO THIS PRESENT MOMENT IN SOCIETY, GOVERNMENT, AND JUSTICE

  • @davidyohalem629
    @davidyohalem629 Před rokem +1

    Stewart's questions are so astute, one is amazed. Also, his agenda is brilliantly articulated and expressed; somehow his satirical skepticism avoids cynicism.

  • @OfteninLondon
    @OfteninLondon Před rokem +10

    Excellent, excellent show today
    I literally have chills watching and Listening to this.

  • @Capnmax
    @Capnmax Před rokem +8

    The system is not afraid of podcasts like this because once our ignorance is stripped away from how these structures of power work, all educated people do with this knowledge is sound smart at cocktail parties..

    • @michelekett8450
      @michelekett8450 Před rokem

      The young people who are not the sons or daughters of rich corporate bosses are the majority and their consciousness is not going to allow the destruction of the Earth, corruption., racism, and the kind of thinking that rules people like the Republican Party who back a fool. We are on a roll towards a society that respects everyone, cares about each other has compassion and is ruled by Love.

  • @kevinbwillson4161
    @kevinbwillson4161 Před rokem

    Excellent as always Thank you all

  • @scottb4029
    @scottb4029 Před rokem +2

    Outstanding. I was saddened when Professor Ming Cho Lee passed away a few years ago. But it looks like Yale has at least one true star and genius.

  • @pdgg7025
    @pdgg7025 Před rokem +35

    JS these discussions need to become mainstream, I wish the podcaters among you can find a way to share the wisdom and hopefully also get paid or something. This is the elixir of modern day democracy and shield against despots that are prowling in the fringes awaiting to strike when the opportunity offers itself.

    • @RLGanley
      @RLGanley Před rokem +5

      The despots are no longer at the fringe. They have moved to center stage, and cheered by the very people that would suffer the most from those despots.

  • @shelgerding3413
    @shelgerding3413 Před rokem +9

    Amazing! I learn so much from these people. Thank you!

  • @kojosmith1210
    @kojosmith1210 Před rokem +1

    This is the type of content I watch Jon Stewart for nuanced & in full context. Thank you for being one of the few voices that speaks for the voiceless and doesn't just lend voice to a shallow discussion on identity politics.

  • @lynnjones9265
    @lynnjones9265 Před rokem +7

    My biggest question is how can we reorganize people who have been systematically put into these corners that they don't even know they are in. What mechanisms could possibly in any way help break them out. Or do we just have to work with the next generation?

    • @merrytunes8697
      @merrytunes8697 Před 9 měsíci

      I'm a young GenX. I'm also a black woman. I grew up in the 80s, and was under the impression that we were a post racial society. I attended well funded schools and graduated from a college prep high school. Often tested in the top decile on standardized tests. It wasn't until I entered the workforce was I aware that maybe things weren't so equal. I don't think any generation that is living while Trump is still alive will be salvageable. Honestly, I don't think the US of A will still be a first world country a century from now; the proletarian and middle class are delusional.

    • @24get24give
      @24get24give Před 7 měsíci

      generally speaking, they are not white, male, or college-educated and we do have to work with the next generation, they have a lot to unlearn

  • @mikekenney8362
    @mikekenney8362 Před rokem +32

    Dr Goff’s grasp of data is amazing. I was the lead teacher in a high school whose niche was credit recovery, some by court order. We had some bad actors, no question, but their transgressions were petty and they were mostly salvageable. Prior to my retirement, I spent 40 years as a banker/financier in the joint venture genre. I encountered scores of crooks. They were invariably stealing millions, and in my judgement incapable of rehabilitation. Hell you’d run into them in country clubs after they were caught. Makes a body proud🎼

    • @jaydubya3698
      @jaydubya3698 Před rokem +11

      Three things:
      1. I grew up occasionally hanging around country club types--executives, lawyers, bankers--because my Dad was the Vice President of a private school which their kids attended and of which they were often alumni. They were almost always very smart, business-minded, and friendly but in a really distant and superficial way. They loved drinking and you could smell the stress and the heart disease any time you went to a party. And there was a shiftiness to some of them and though I'm not aware of any of the people that I knew doing white collar crime, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of them were involved in very complicated and shady business transactions. But that's just an impression. Who knows?
      2. I retired several years ago after working for many years as an HR adminstrator and executive. My working experience with high level CEOs is this: they are, nearly always, high-functioning sociopaths. Why? I don't think you can effectively run a complicated organization and make difficult decisions unless you are somewhat sociopathic. That's just the way it is.
      3. A guy who I was very good friends with about 20 years ago (we've drifted apart over time) has since become the CEO of a cosmetics firm. He came up through sales. He smoked weed everyday on the job and to entertain clients blasted coke and drank like crazy with them. He ran up huge balances on his expense account, but he could justify the expenses because he was crushing it by bringing in business. He would be super friendly and have fun with male colleagues in his industry and then turn around and sleep with their wives. He was a great guy to hang out with. But I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit.

    • @jessehachey2732
      @jessehachey2732 Před rokem +3

      A high-school specializing in *credit recovery* 🤔 Geez, what kind of education system do you have?! No wonder so many in the US are uneducated 😳 Yikes!

    • @bkm2797
      @bkm2797 Před rokem +2

      Jay dubya, how nauseating, and my question is, when will we stop giving these complete and utter as$hats excuses like all in all, he's kinda fun to hang with!

    • @jaydubya3698
      @jaydubya3698 Před rokem

      @@bkm2797 Well, you're weren't there, so....

    • @bkm2797
      @bkm2797 Před rokem

      jay dubya, No I wasn't but I've certainly had multiple run in's with these types of loser's, and they are only fun to hang with until it's not. You give these greedy as$hats an inch, they take a mile,
      TRump is a perfect example! Cheers

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 Před rokem +51

    The justice system has forgotten that prosecution for a crime is a form of consequence, even if the defendant escapes justice. It can act as a deterrent in itself.

    • @inmyopinion6836
      @inmyopinion6836 Před rokem +3

      YET, to the detriment of the innocent, wrongly accused

    • @quikdraw5203
      @quikdraw5203 Před rokem

      Now that's a fucking riot. Hilarity ensues.

  • @jeffclement2468
    @jeffclement2468 Před rokem +4

    Love me some Jon Stewart. Very informative and funny all three. 😻

  • @dwightmcfee9521
    @dwightmcfee9521 Před rokem +1

    Great show. Have a good safe break!