Elite Dangerous - Frontier DOUBLE Price of Cosmetics As Community Reacts
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2024
- Frontier have increase the cost of Elite Dangerous cosmetics on the ARX store. Many items are now close to double their original value. This happened late last week without Frontier providing any advance warning.
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A correction to this video: On the 23rd April Frontier stated that; "Starting in May 2024, you will notice a change in how we approach the gamestore - which will also include ARX pricing adjustments for some of our cosmetic items"
Whilst this is certainly notification that there will be "some price adjustments", that is entirely different to "we are increasing prices across all cosmetic items, and in some cases almost doubling them."
Most sane folks took that to mean big ticket items might get rounded up and smaller items rounded down for a net price gain while keeping things in the same pricing range. Some things increasing by 275% is beyond bonkers. Still cannot fathom why this company would crap on their playerbase like this. Frontier needs to make money and we want to support them but devaluing ARX is just pointlessly dunking on players. There's over 20 years of empirical data concerning the relationships between devs and players and business models that work and fail.
They could have raised the price of ARX packages without shooting themselves in the foot. They could offer a premium $10 monthly service that doubles storage and/or resources gain and people would actually celebrate. What they've done is obviously a desire to milk the dying cow, but it doesn't change the fact it could have been done more effectively. For both them and their players. Truly bizarre business practices at Frontier.
I genuinely thought they were going to make things cheaper 😭😭😭
Why they didn't just increase the price of arx and punished all the people who already have some of them? Some players will simply play less to grind arx or will not buy them in advance, because they are afraid of price changes. I don't understand this strategy.
I just bought the 85000 arx two weeks ago. I'm never giving them another dime.
Frontier are a dying company. They are losing customers and are trying to grab cash from wherever they can. If they hadn't lied to, and abandoned their console customers they wouldn't have lost over a third of their customer base and wouldn't need to grab extra cash from their remaining customers. I've stopped playing any Frontier Developments games because of their poor customer service and their disrespect towards their customers.
Whenever I think of Elite Dangerous the phrase that comes to mind is "what an absolute fucking shame."
They really had something special and just fumbled the ball year after year after year.
I think the biggest example of how the devs really feel about the community was how Raxxla was handled. Years of telling us that it existed and was in game and that the puzzle was coming together.
I agree. I hope Hello Games will buy the property 🙂
Absolute fucking shame
I like where your head's at, but if Hello bought Elite, they'd just have two versions of the same thing. It would be the same situation as Autodesk buying Maya: no competition, minimal innovation, and another unique property robbed of its identity.
@@GuyNamedSeanWas just all lies. Especially with turning the wheel initiative, and how they lied to Kai Zen. Just showed their contempt for the player base.
FDEV clearly has SERIOUS upper management issues that are holding back the company, as reported by some ex-employees.
And investor issues.
Imagine if they decided to release a good quality DLC every 6-18 months instead.
They need like 2 years to release a new ship, which is just a modified version on an existing one. They don't work on this game anymore. Probably a "work on elite when you have some spare time after working on your actual current project" type of deal.
Exactly my point... I understand, that FDEV needs money for development and server maintenance, but finding that out after 10 years and then just doubling the price for cosmetics (even though you don't have to buy them to play the game) is ridiculous. Why didn't they increase the prices in small responsible steps over the years? They knew, when they don't develop new DLCs, they would't generate any money. I really like the game and play in VR, Anti Aliasing is terrible in VR (but still enjoyable) and requires some update, Odyssey as non VR is also no fun, but I am ok with it, personally don't like that part of the game anyways. Selling starter ships in the ARX store is also ok for me as everything can be achieved in game (when FDEV kills the engineering grind). The ship sale might be a good way for FDEV to earn money to support the game we all like. Just my 2cents
That requires work and intelligence.
This would be good
They'd have to have available coders to do that and management that actually gave the slightest shit about the game past 'how much money can we extract without ever spending a cent on it?'
But this is FDev, so they don't care at all.
Man, Elite really leaves me conflicted nowadays. I absolutely fell in love with the game back in 2017, I got all my friends to buy it, I put 100s of hours into it and did the grind before engineering eventually left me feeling burnt out and unsatisfied. After the Odyssey debacle, I uninstalled and left the game sitting in my library for years. Finally upgraded my PC, and it was one of the first things I reinstalled to come back, but the magic is somewhat gone. Its one of those games where I WANT to play it, I love the IDEA of playing it, but then I log in, stare at my screen for a bit, maybe run a mission or two, and then log off.
I try other space sims ranging from NMS to EVE Online in an attempt to capture that feeling of escape, of freedom, of utter awe I felt the first time I finally got my bearings in Elite. The sheer shock followed by joy when I used a docking computer for the first time and it piped Strauss into the cockpit as it effortlessly steered me into port after I struggled so much to dock. But no other game really captures it. Between Frontier being Frontier, the unrealized potential of what the game could be, and now the somewhat interesting monetization choices (putting it politely), its hard to want to boot it up again.
I desperately hope that their plans for powerplay, and increased attempts to secure more funding, are an indicator that they are in fact looking to shake the game up and finally get around to allocating some dev time to Elite, but I have a feeling that the game is fizzling out, and we're watching the slow death of the one true space sim of the 2010s.
I was, and still am, on console, and the lie about Odyssey was my loss of faith/hope in the inchoate clowns running the company.
As you said, there was a genuinely unique magic to Elite at one point. For me, it was the '1:1' galactic scale. I know for most that's a turn off or a point of friction, but it was that which really set it apart.
Planning for deep voyages beyond the Sol bubble, and travelling for several weeks, led to some of my favourite gaming memories ever. Discovering a white dwarf with a fast/close orbiting landable planet was a real highlight (I carried on to Colonia, then headed back to the system to land on it. easily my favourite, and most risky, approach and landing I ever did).
It was the perfect podcast game, too... certainly for a deep space explorer. The HOTAS helped transform the experience of playing it even further.
Due to Odyssey, I quickly found it increasingly hard to respect or even enjoy. Yes, it's only a game ultimately, but I'm not entirely sure FDev were aware of how much it meant to some people, and therefore how bitter it was to see them fumble and exploit Elite - corroding what it was once until we get to--- well, the current/latest shitshow.
Kudos to the coders and workers, but fuck Braben and the management. I am still thankful of what it used to be, but I'm also still deeply resentful.
I felt this...😢
How about feeling like I have to play, after dropping nearly $400 on joysticks, instead of wanting to play.
If you willing to walk away from Odyssey, Elite in VR is sublime [even still], esp if you've the controls for it.
I feel like I could have written your post, other than I started pre release which I now feel is partly where I went wrong. I joined with friends and all burned out before release but I stayed longer, left then came back again then left again. I bought my Hotas for this game and later Voice Attack then lastly a VR headset. My only reason to go back is VR but it's a shame they stopped supporting it. I don't want to pile on a load of negativity about devs etc but this game leaves a big gap to fill that nothing else has managed so far.
Today my HDD will get 70GB of a free space. That is long overdue.
Very long overdue.
I put in a new HDD recently... I quit in 2017 maybe I'll use the new HDD to arrange one final flight.
Jokes on you, my SSD always had that space.
If Frontier wants more money for E:D then they need to start *LISTENING TO THEIR PLAYERS* - cut back the grind, revamp exploration, add new ships, add atmospheric landings, improve bases/stations, fix the fundamental flaws with things like fleet carriers, etc.
This approach just SCREAMS "Frontier!" - ignore what people want and toss out something nobody wants.
This game has survived IN SPITE of Frontier but they seem intent on constantly putting their finger on the scale to nudge it toward extinction.
And release 4.0 on console f.f.s.
Lmao. as if they'd do that. they left the game broken for like 6 months after the initial release, and a lot of the core problems of the game were never improved. a lot of the content they spoke about pre-release was never actually added, or was half-assed.
Doesn't help that back then, the rabbid fanboys would downplay any sort of legitimate criticism.
It's such a shame. Elite Dangerous makes me angry for it's shitty enablers in it's community that helped this happen, and sad for it's missed potential.
They want to milk and cash out before this game is complete dead.
You may be correct - they have promised a lot in the next couple of months but maybe that is a way to cash out on the increase hype.
Can never understand why these developers cannot just make a good game anymore. If the game was good,people will buy it. Have ship interiors so you and your friends can go on missions mine or explore. I know these corporations is in the business of making money,but make it worth my dollar,my time. Make it so I can't wait to play the game. Get rid of the grind. They gave us a whole milky way galaxy. That should be the grind. Trust me,people will buy it.😊
Exactly. They probably never broke even with odyssey and this is how they plan to cut their loses.
It’s in decline life-cycle wise and has been for a while. Nothing surprising with the kind of moves they are pulling now imho and nothing they say can be trusted. Simples 👍🏾
@@kevinrodgers7275market volatility would be my guess. Safer to try and make a heap of cash fast and burn the already disgruntled 😖 player base than make money over time and maintain a player base, albeit small.
Nothing Frontier does suprises me anymore. They're trying to squeeze everything they can out of the 4 people who still play Elite Dangerous.
indeed
I'm the one of those people 😢
Oh no! You got it ALL wrong. There are 4 people playing each with 127 accounts, so the game is FINE.
Did FDev hire some manager from Hasbro, Games Workshop, Sony or something? That massive price increase for already existing cosmetics is one hell of a predatory business practice.
These are strategies don’t come off as greed, but desperation. FDEV have been terrible as most things, including being greedy. I feel like they’re not doing this stuff for profits, but to keep the company alive.
Too little too late. The management and execs have proven over the last 5-8 years that they have no idea how to run a studio. Pretty much everything they’ve done since Jurassic World has been a colossal failure.
Death throes........ and they have no one to blame but themselves.
I would have sold my kidney to keep playing this game around 4 years ago, now Frontier couldn't pay ME enough. The gaming industry as a whole has lost it's way, and ED is one of the best examples.
shop around fellow gamer, there exists games that give more fun than elite. gamers will move on, willingly or unwillingly, and eventually forget about what could of been (most of the time). We all identified a bit too hard with our CMDR, and i been there very hard. It was a game that did not have to die, and that is tragic. we loved it.
Same old Frontier. Managed to install some optimism in the game then set it on fire.
For real. I was actually getting a little hopeful they would turn it around. But they can't help but show they don't care about how elite players feel.
Frontier, in their dim wisdom also increased the ARX prices for everything on legacy console. Let me be clear. The console community that was lied to, promises broken and then swiftly abandoned years ago also had their ARX store prices go up. The first ED update consoles got was a big middle finger from Frontier while hawking for money from their years long marathon of screw-ups
omg. no new content but hiked arx prices.
I used to work with a supplier that used to increase their prices when work was slow. They no longer exist. Funny that.
Back in the day, playing SimCity 3000, if my city was failing, I'd put taxes up really high to see how much money I could get before everyone left.
Thanks for actually covering this OA.
Ian Bell must be laughing his socks off 😂
I've seen this behaviour with other live service model games. They aren't trying to keep the game going, they're trying to milk the community before they eol it. Or at least, that's what it looks like to me. Either way, not notifying and the sheer increase are dirty business practices that mean I won't be continuing my engagement fdevs products going forward.
💯 %
I have said this on many occasion and even got blocked by their twitter account twice for it, but frontier have completely ruined Elite dangerous.
So much potential squandered...
Life time pass holder here (I have to think I had the value out of it in the first few years). Frontier aren't even worth the digital ink to tell them what I think of them.
Wow, what a major middle finger to the core players that have stuck with it for so long.
Lol if you're still sticking with them, that says a lot about why they are doing this. The die hards will protect this company like it can do no wrong. Lol
@@toddpeterson8653 todd is right, and its also one reason why frontier became obsessed with twitch and targoids (coz their shills are)
@@toddpeterson8653 Well, we don't protect the company, but there are some aspects of the game that have not been matched by any other game to this day.
@@toddpeterson8653 While predatory is too strong for this behaviour, "greedy" definitely fits.
@@toddpeterson8653 company sucks ass, pretty sure no one likes frontier at this point. we just like the one good game they made. Unfortunately they seem to want to burn and run like your typical corperate greedlords.
It really looks like they have given up and are now squeezing as much money as they can from the shrinking player base. I don't think they have ever really recovered from the post Odyssey player exodus.
FDev lying about Odyssey coming to consoles was what turned me against them. So yeah, that whole period was a big turning point.
I adored Elite at its height, and there was really nothing else like it (still isn't). But jeese, did they piss away so much good will and loyalty. What an immense waste of potential, and what a lousy bunch of managers/execs they have.
I was joking before that this is pretty much enshittification but I can’t be so sure now. I’m not an economy major or a social scientist by any means, but this whole spiral is entertaining in a really morbid way.
Enshitification, I like that.
Just goes to show that Frontier are uncapable of learning from their own and many many communication failures....It´s quite insane really how bad they have been and still are at communicating with the playerbase.
Elite is done for. I am so sad. 8 years ago when I started playing, I had such an incredible vision for this game's future. So much wasted potential. IMO.
yup, I plunged many hours into the game, then came along Odyssey
Had a ton of fun, then it became stale and too grindy.
Now they're dredging funds from whatever is left of the community
ED is dead thanks to Devs.
The game is DEAD, Never going back!...This supposed comeback ov ELite Dangerous is a final nail in the coffin!
The game has been dead for years, It just moving forward with the remnants of the rich community.
Ed has been dead lol. It was dying before they dropped console, and died when they did. The game never improved from that point, it just continued to receive stale and half assed updates while leaving all the issues and problems to fester
Do people know what Dead means?
So this is what DEAD SPACE actually means…
My good advice to anyone who's reading this comment. Don't spend a penny on this disgusting developer to let them learn from their mistakes.
easier done than said
Get Spacebourne II instead. Made by a solo Dev and constantly adding new features. Already has all the mining, trading and shooting Elite does and includes FPS ground parts and walkable stations.
@@falcon5190question tho dos it support vr ?
Understandable, they have to finance the heaps of new and exciting content they deliver every few months with their live service game...
LMAO
Double the price, half the players
That's Capitalism for you! ...and why I hate it!
Outstanding move, lets see how this plays out for them.
They've gone full mobile game.
Who cares if a majority of players don't stay around if you can harpoon a few whales
that's the sad reality of "whale catching". a single rich person is often more lucrative than hunderes of players that just buy stuff occasionally. fdev does not care about elite anymore, they only want to grab what's left and then they will move on. sad to see my favorite game finialy die after being a sinking ship for years.
Check out jump ship. Looks pretty good. For PC and XBOX. It might be the new Hell Divers.😉
i still enjoy idly trading and bountyhunting, enjoying it while I still can, feel like I'm flying in a universe at the verge of death. My headcanon will be that the thargoid won
WTF? I can't really think of any other games / companies that have just double the price of cosmetics out of nowhere.
It honestly amazes me, nobody knows how to shoot themselves in the foot like FDEV.
Ah, and here I was thinking about buying some stuff for cosmetics simply to show support. Glad they doubled the price, so they make it easy for me to reduce my arx purchases to zero.
Well I can say they lost all the goodwill I had for the game with a snap of a finger. I was actually one of the people who really liked Odyssey.
Recently I had been playing the game with the goal of buying my ships some skins with ARX I had collected over the years, and this is just such a slap in the face, even if in the grand scheme of things some skins aren't gonna change my enjoyement of the game. But it just makes you feel like the company doesn't really care about you anymore.
Welcome to the club
I mean, they outright stabbed the console players - me very much included - in the back with Odyssey. That was a deserved turning point.
I guess each group of players turns bitter against them at some point.
Maybe time to give Spacebourne II - a game developed by a single Dev and having more content than ED a chance?
@@falcon5190 Do they have VR support/a 1:1 model of our galaxy and a flight model that is as accurate as ED's physics?
@@tdognschooch Not yet. It's a beta and the Dev is focusing on basic things now. It also costs half of what base Elite costs.
They wouldn't have to double on prices they would have just kept console live
David Attenborough voice: "....and listen now, to the final molecules of milk, being sucked from the dead cow husk."
Someone needs to give David Braben a shout and tell him the devs are breaking his baby.
It looks like Frontier and Fdevs decided to commit hara kiri on Elite dangerous. RIP old friend 🤯
Devs don’t decide anything in terms of how the company is ran, they do what the company CEO and stakeholders wants
I don't usually support piracy, but someone once said "Do onto others as they do onto you"....😮
I haven't played in over a year, frontier is doing their absolute best to make sure I stay away.
Well, how NOT to make people want to spend money on your game. Congrats FDev. That's a big middle finger to the playerbase. Then again they've been giving the playerbase the middle finger for years now. Just shutter it and make it be able to play single player or a private server with friends that can get modded. Let the community have it.
wow, you actually sound surprised at this, how? They have ignored the player base for years, given the players none of what we have asked for and none of what was promised from the start, overcharged for a fortnight DLC, and continue to milk this game that has been dying for ages now.
I've only ever bough one cosmetic, which was a Union Jack for my Viper. This was back when there was so much hope and so many opportunities available to ED. Back when Braben was talking about diverse procedural plants and clouds to fly through on gas giants...
What a huge missed opportunity and a huge 'what could have been'...
This might be illegal in some countries consumer protection laws. Devaluing the currency on purpose like this by making all the items more expensive. They should be increasing the price of the ARX itself not the cosmetics using the ARX..
Tnis. But, no one will bother for a few euros and they know it.
This is to force CMDRs like me, who play the game to earn ARX, to turn to the cash shop, I mean wants to spend a couple of months to buy a paint job that was made with MS Paint and the bucket tool.
FDEV: Where failure is developed further.
The way to do this that was respectful of the value of already sunk ARX would have been to jack up the prices for buying ARX rather than devalue ARX across the board.
The fact that they didn’t do that shows the money grab nature of the move, because they don’t make any new money off already purchased ARX.
Plus this devalues the ARX we earn by playing the game, I assume that won’t be doubling.
How many ARX for a proper VR on foot experience, for a game built from the ground up to support VR?
Those lofty goals were long gone before the "arx" abomination was shoved into the game.
You must admit it's impressive how they keep coming up with ways to screw or ignore their players.
So to compensate for the damage you did with completely ignoring the players and ditching a fair part of the playerbase unannounced you raise the prices unannounced?
I'm afraid they only listen to the voices in their head (caused by the human toxoplasma).
Wondering when I get the first bill for my Frontier account-gone-subscription.
I feel like ED is an exploration and a ship building game for most players. However, Fdev is focused on making it a COD in space, and it's just not working.
FDEV has been a busted flush for a long time now. An awful developer now only beholden to shareholders. I feel sorry for anyone who invested any serious time or capital past the shitshow that was multicrew update.
It's such a shame -- they unearthed a huge gem from the ground before anyone else, but did not have the vision, resources or experience to properly cut and polish it.
I have zero sympathy for anyone that invested in FDEV. Anyone could have just done 5 minutes of research into how antagonistic they are to their customers and realized the company is not moving in a good direction.
I think the only possible reason the stock prices are going up is that investors are anticipating a buyout.
@@BRUXXUS OOO bruxxus you said something that made me realize what is going on. The final piece of the puzzle. Thank you for the insight. o7
Welp... time to abandon this sinking ship, I think Frontier is about to lay off it's entire staff which is why they're suddenly pulling these desperate moves. KSP2 just did the same thing a week ago, it looks like we're losing 2 space games this year.
I'm glad that KSP2 didn't touch a single penny of my money while it was in the broken state it was at early access 3-4 years into development.
@@game_critic we shall always have the masterpiece that was the first KSP, dont let their greed tarnish it.
You'll be back
You are correct - I am one of the players who holds onto Arx and combines them with Arx earned in game to purchase items in the ARX stores. It would have been beneficial to know that everything in the ARX store was going to increase almost by double. I am no expert in economics but the last time I looked a huge increase in price does not usually equate to a huge increase in sales especially in this tough economic climate. Hopefully this is not the final nail in the coffin.
The game peaked in 2019 with the DW2 event. Its been in decline ever since. This is just the last gasp cash grab and I expect them to get to the 10th anniversary in December then announce they're pulling the plug.
DW3 could revive the game and bring back a lot of players imo.
Blimey, was it that long ago!? My Imperial Corvette is still drifting somewhere between the bubble and core. 😞
DW3 is rumoured to be happening in Star Ship Simulator. The devs of that game are on record saying they'd like it to take part there. 🤞
I've just started playing Elite Dangerous (seeing it might have been the worst possible time to find the game) but what was DW 1 and 2?
@@smithynoir9980 Distant Worlds Expedition , bunch of players getting together to head out in the black / deep space. Was pretty cool at the time. There's more info if you google Elite Dangerous wiki Distant Worlds. Sadly most players have moved on to other games since.
I hope you got your copy on sale, as they drop the price of Elite Dangerous every four or five months if i remember right.
Just for fun check this ED video out, showing you how deep people got into this game in it's early years. czcams.com/video/6p4bsaJTYQw/video.html
would never have found out the prices went up if not for this video. I would never have bought anything anyway. And that ain't changing. :D
It really is a shame. Such potential wasted. Monetization can be done the right way too. Look at Asobo and it's MS Flight simulator 2020's market place. Noone is complaining about it, BECAUSE devs keep bringing new world updates for free, including airplanes, every couple of months. It must have been the best 40 bucks I've spend on a game in the last 5 years. And regardless of Asobo coming out with MSFS 2024 later this year, 2020 version will still get regular updates for free well into 2025. That's support, not this Frontier childish loyal playerbase milking cow sh@t first with Horizons passes, then Ody and now P2W/cosmetics price hikes.
"we've got these cheese burgers, man" will be an option in the store soon
Elite is still around? Jeez, I left that stain after the Odyssey expac failed.
Ultimately, i'm grumpy about this, but it's really hard to care, lol. If people really want a skin, they'll buy it. What I hope this does is encourage Frontier to reinvest in Elite and start making it good again. If they want to survive, they have to go back to the games that made them a company in the first place - Elite, Planet Coaster - and try to pull themselves out of the financial hole they're in. Especially with the Thargoid war reaching a turning point, there's an opportunity for great storylines to develop.
Frontier makes yet another idiotic mistake in a long line of idiotic mistakes... how surprising.
We STILL can't visit the Horsehead Nebula, can we? I wanted to visit that on an Expedition YEARS ago and then they just fucked us with an unknown pass.
Prior to the Arx implementation, my wallet was open to in game cosmetics. I purchased many skins, kits, and the like. Even shelled out for the lifetime expansion. Then they obfuscated the cosmetic prices in the arx store... and my wallet closed. I played the game for several more years until Odessey landed, and I could no longer play with friends. I was recently considering getting back into the game... then this change landed.
PTW and FOMO. How far they have fallen in my eyes. Disappointed in the extreme. Thanks for your videos Obsidian. I always enjoyed your content.
Damn, the British pound is taking a pound they need a price hike??
Or is Frontier going under??
Whatever the case is, it’s not looking good.
They're trying to milk the game for whatever it has, before they announce abandonment.
@@tomasz9429 Yup. I am counting the days.
I genuinely feel like Frontier are on the brink of bankruptcy. They’ve not been making much money from selling games. And they’ve proven multiple times that they’re willing to lie to shareholders, which I’m shocked they haven’t been punished for. Looks like they’re finally going to have to confront the reality of being anti-customer for so many years.
Make sure to take a moment in the moment to use a moment to keep the devil out of yer tazi and the jelly out of yer box!
A lot of people predicted this after the announcement of paid ships. FDev can't have players earning these things without feeling like they're pushing a boulder up a hill covered in petroleum jelly.
Frontier: "Ok team, let's brainstorm ideas on how to expedite the death of this game so we're no longer obliged to support it"
Its primarily a bid to keep the game alive. Live services require constant cash flow. If cash is down or low you raise the price. If you cant raise funds eventually you go out of business and so does the game
It will only succeed in driving people away from the game. Everyone knows a cynical cash grab when they see one, and they react accordingly. New content would be a better option.
ED was already dead to me the moment they added the pre built ships for sale trash, this is just a shot to the face of an already dead horse for me. I will briefly mourn ED's loss once more. But not very long this time, we've already gotten through this grief. Love yah Elite, we had fun for a bit. Rest in Piece, and RIP Frontier, I will never buy another product from you again either. Your greed is showing. I understand making money for your business, but there's a line to walk somewhere, and you have certainly overstepped it, more than once. Your willingness to torpedo ED's community for a few extra bucks is obvious.
There's a special place in my heart for all the fun we had, but there's a more special place in my memory for greed ridden management.
WOW, so they have almost doubled the cost of all cosmetics.
Double dipping, buy to play game with a free to play cash shop is insane.
You were supposed to be the chosen one. Now how the mighty have fallen.
If this game wasn't already utterly and thoroughly dead I would imagine that this would cause an uproar in the community.
Note to Frontier: multiplying by zero doesn't work, financially speaking.
I used to care about ED with a passion, these days not so much. It really does appear to be dying which is sad. All I ever wanted to remain playing was a generic ship interior for those long trips of exploration.
When David Braben stepped out of the leadership I lost any hope of the future of this game. Must be heartbroken how they have ruined his child.
Absolutely abhorrent behaviours by FDev. I don't care about their excuses. They see the Elite fans as something that can be milked to hide their losses on other games that have failed
FDev chose to make this game online, we didn't choose that option. I expected the near 200e I have invested into the game would keep it going, I didn't expect it to be invested into Dinosaurs and F1 games. That was FDevs choice. Now they are milking the only cow they have.
I quit in 2017 and I know for a fact many people got disillusioned long before me.
Crap performance - check. Buggy spaghetti code - check. Ships for sale for cash - check. Expensive purchases - check. I could keep going, but congrats to Elite for becoming Star Citizen 2.0.
Dude Fuck FDev. As someone that's spent like 200$ on cosmetics in the distant past, I'm pissed. So glad I spent some of my free ARX on my fleet carrier paintjob about a month ago & finally settling on a Krait mk2 paintjob last week before the tick. I had no idea there was going to be an increase. That's scummy.
seems like last ditch effort to make any money back from it, probably close to being put on life support
if only the game was offline capable
There has to be some way to protest this.
I hear it's getting dumped hard in the Steam reviews now. Worse than Odyssey.
Frontier: Our revenue stream is dropping a bit. What can we do.
1. Increase value for customers to promote increased spending...... Na.
2. Advertise or run promotions to increase player base which will increase spending.... Na.
3. Gouge the hell out of the last remaining whales still playing.... HELL YEAH, the tried and true method.
To say that ED hasn't been making money and that the increase in cosmetic costs are needed to help support continued development of the game is pretty speculative. I may have certainly missed some news but I don't think FDev has stated that the increase is to help future development of the game, it could likely just be a tactic to try and recoup costs from previous development. In other words, the cosmetic cost increase can happen and FDev also might not be planning much more beyond BGS 2.0 and the content that we know is coming. I guess I'm just saying that FDev should be more up front about what the future of development for ED (major content updates, additional features, etc) entails.
never buy pixels
Isn't that what video games are?
@@Joseph-wh5of torrents make me free of it
Color doesn't matter so much. I find white, silver or black are the most useful, as all others have more than one star system type that they look horrible in, and those are the ones we avoid taking selfies in while bearing those colors lol.
I feel like when ship, engine and laser colors became a thing, we unlocked them for all ships. I.e. Blue engine effects unlocked for all ships etc.
It's not just about the price increases , but also the shady way things are priced. For instance , the old trick of pricing something just out of reach with the leftover ARX , that you have to spend more money to buy more ARX because of the balance left over.
Elite Dangerous is on life support and is circling the drain. FDev will take the servers down in the next year or two.
FDev and Frontier should really be honest, announce a maintainence mode for current game and the development of the NEXT Elite Dangerous game, if there is is one.
highly doubt there is another elite game if they cant keep the content coming FOR YEARS for their curent game lol
They’re incapable of managing or development the current game. Do any of us actually trust them to make a new version of elite dangerous? They should do the best thing for elite, and sell the rights to a proper developer who can take it forward.
For the prices they were charging they should have done better than blue. For real money there should be stylish paint jobs.
Oh boy
Pathetic desperate cash grab from the few remaining whales before it goes into zombie mode. What a shame.
No wonder, yesterday I got the Anaconda Vanguard Bronze for way more than 3250 arxs (was 5000, or 6000 can't remember)!
Darn it. Oh well at least it was all in-game produced money, didn't pay a single bit of real money for it.
They should have made an announcement of it, and let people who wanted to get something to have a few days to do it at the old price.
I have also noticed when you have the voices to control your ship, many of them are fine but William Shatner keeps getting deleted for some unknown reason and you have 9 chances to have it through your email.
So i applied to get a copy as i already purchased it and sent the email as it asks you to do if you want another copy .
So i bought a thumb stick so i can copy it to the thumbstick and waited for the voice attack to be sent to me they did not send it ,i sent another email and still no reply .
So i stopped buying new voice attacks ,all other voice attack i bought are fine but william shatner keeps getting deleted ,not sure why it does that but it is the only one that does.
The company is in financial trouble and the only way out of it they see is this.
Frontier: Come here my friend. I heard you like fishing and I sell boats. Customer: I do like fishing but your boats have holes in them. Frontier: We' ll those holes are by design to prevent overfishing. And we can't stay in business doing that even if we considered filling them in but look at these new shiny oars you can buy. Customer: But I just want to fish without having to return to shore every time the boat floods. If you just patch the holes, more people would buy boats, oars, bait, and everything else you sell. Frontier: but the people who already bought a boat from us need oars too. All we need to do is charge them extra for oars and everything will be fine.
I'm no expert, but wouldn't be surprised if the price hike means less income in the long run, rather than more (despite a probably inital 'uptick' with previously time limited skins now always available). I hope this isn't a bad as it looks. I love this game and really hope it keeps going.
Given the state of the game and lack of any substantive updates in the future transitioning to a free to play model makes a lot of sense for Elite. It makes me sad to say this. I have hundreds of hours on console, then hundreds of hours on PC when I had to move there. It didn't have to be this way. FDev fumbled this soo badly over a protracted period of time. Best space game that never was.
ED is dead. Thankfully Star Citizen is (slowly) becoming more and more playable, although it is currently undergoing some major changes with features from Squadron42 being ported in. A bumpy ride, but I think the destination will be considerably better than what ED ended up being.
I have played this game for ages. Originally on a sloppy laptop, then a Xbox and now on a high end PC. As a general rule I don’t purchase cosmetics but was considering buying the 85k as the weekly accruement is a joke. Now I won’t. I don’t like being taken for a ride.
Now imagine if Elite halved item value instead of the increase, I would buy Arx, and go nuts.
Even if the reduction was a random 48 hour period once a month. Players would be more inclined to spend frivolously and Elite would increase player satisfaction which may positively affect share price. Just imagine.
I love that my time is now worth even less to fdev, somehow. So much for saving up for my dream cosmetic set.
FDev: Holding a smoking gun, shooting what’s left of their feet.
Also FDev: Why is our game dying?! The profits must grow, think of the shareholders!
Elite dangerous made $121m since release from Steam sources. How much money did FD reinvest in ED vs allocated funding to failed projects. Trying to turn ED into a cash cow again
And here I thought 'changes to ARX store' means an overhaul to the thing... stoopid me