Sex Matters (Marty Klein)
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- The Michael Shermer Show # 322
Shermer and Klein discuss: sex therapists and the reasons people seek therapy • self-help sex books • sexual orientation • asexuality • sex abuse • infidelity • monogamy • polyamory • trans • homosexuality • sex education • the case against the sexual revolution • sex addiction • pornography • the anti-pornography movement • prostitution • obscenity and censorship • pedophilia.
Marty Klein has been a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and a Certified Sex Therapist in Palo Alto, California for 42 years - over 40,000 sessions with individuals and couples. Marty is the author of seven books on sexuality, including Sexual Intelligence: What We Really Want from Sex and How to Get it; His Porn, Her Pain: Confronting America’s PornPanic with Honest Talk about Sex; Beyond Orgasm: Dare to be Honest About the Sex you Really Want; Ask Me Anything: Dr. Klein Answers the Sex Questions You’d Love to Ask; and America’s War on Sex: The Attack on Law, Lust and Liberty. Marty is an outspoken critic of many popular and clinical ideas about sexuality and emotional health. Wikipedia cites him as the foremost critic of the concept of sex addiction. He is a founding editor of the Journal of Porn Studies. And each year Marty gives expert testimony in various state and federal courts. A former instructor at Stanford Medical School, Marty’s humor, insights, and down-to-earth approach are regularly featured in the national media, such as the New York Times, the New Yorker, Nightline, NPR, and the Huffington Post.
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This conversation was fantastic!
This guy is excellent. His comments really hit one home run after another.
Marty Klein, what a nice and funny guy. I'm sitting here laughing out loud when he talks about looking in the mirror and being surprised (I can relate to that, I'm 68 years old).
I agree with Marty about the importance of your work Mr Shermer.. Love it !, the exposure to so much knowledge and ideas / point if Views / Demystification etc...give me faith in humanity that there are great thinker, that in the end common sense can prevail ...what ever it means!
oh my gosh. There's certainly nothing better than listening to a few old guys like me talking about sex....
there's a market for every fetish. do not feel ashamed.
It's an example of how the adults need to take back control.
Very interesting talk. Pleasant and competent guest.
Great discussion, full of common sense!
1:02:41
Terrific show containing useful insights. The quote, however, is Freud's, not Jung's.
In the latest U.K. census: Around 48,000 people (0.1%) gave their identity as 'trans man' and another 48,000 (0.1%) gave their identity as 'trans woman'. Almost like it's an evenly split grey area as one would expect if it was purely biological... and not male fetishism or female fashion victims.
Please, please read Helen Joyce's 'Trans' Abigail Shrier's Irreversible Damage and Hannah Barnes' new book Time to Think. Then read the Cass report and the disgracefully undemocratic legal advice from Dentons Lawyers ( they recommend trans activists secure legislation via stealth and 'piggybacking' on more popular causes). There is so much more but that'll do for now. Please.
@@lechenaultia5863 The anti trans side is a far right and religiously very well funded open conspiracy at this point .
Great conversation and it sure was a lot of fun too
This has been a superb discussion of many facets and angles of human sexuality. Kudos to Michael Shermer for leading it successfully for two hours and a half. A record! and fascinating to the very end, and bravo to Mary Klein for his patience and insightful answers.
It might be interesting to know what Marty Klein's comments would be to the ideas presented by Prof. Robert Sapolsky in his videos on Human Sexual Behavior I, II, III (lectures 15, 16, and 17) in his Stanford Un. course on Human Behavioral Biology shown on CZcams, for example the importance of female ovulation time, or the timing variations of hormone secretions.
Also what would be Marty Klein's comments to the idea presented by Dr. Leonard Sax that sexuality and sexual orientation or identity do not take place as points moving in a single linear dimension varying from male at one end to female at the other. But they are points in a plane where one axis marks the degrees of masculinity and the perpendicular axis plots the degrees of femininity. The two-axis graphic presentation permits more variability and nuances than the single horizontal axis and avoids the traps of the either...or...dichotomy.
BTW, at Bristol Farms, those cookies are called, "The Cookie!" It has been a while since I got one, but as I recall they are a little over 800 calories. Yumm.
Wow! I feel now like after finishing really good book.
Good conversation, indeed.
On the matter of young people's fleeting emotions, inexperienced thinking, and transitory decisions, there's the underlying neurobiological fact that adolescent brains are not yet mature and fully developed until around the age of 25. We can read it all in "ADOLESCENCE: OR, DUDE, WHERE'S MY FRONTAL CORTEX?", chapter 6 in the comprehensive review of the neurobiology of human behavior entitled BEHAVE, by Stanford Un. neurobiologist Robert Sapolsky (2017).
So how does "sex therapy" help adult virgin men who are consistently rejected by women throughout their lives?
Sexual neglect is a laughing matter and subject of mockery and ridicule in the eyes of bluepill society. Sex therapy assumes you're a Chad or Tyrone not iηcεl.
This should be interesting.
There is no way that 10% of adolescents today are really trans. That’s completely unbelievable.
“I like to have a martini,
Two at the very most.
After three I'm under the table,
after four I'm under my host.”
― Dorothy Parker,
No one, grooms, rapes, forces drugs, beats, forcibly relocates you, to work the night shift at 7-11.
But all of those things happen in the sex trafficking/porn/trade.
Julie Bindel, The Pimping of Prostitution: Abolishing the Sex Work Myth, she would be a great guest.
Interesting discussion - I sense a bit of intolerance in the gender area here.
Trans people don't exist. Homosexuals don't exist. Atheists don't exist. Altruism doesn't exist. Anybody saying otherwise is insane or lying.
Yeah, yeah.
Seriously, it's interesting to me how sexologists generally don't want to talk about incels, even though these "scientists" present themselves as the go-to experts for all aspects of human sexuality. Given how the topic can unsettle sexually experienced people who encounter it, I have to wonder if the existence of incels pushes people's terror-management buttons. Does "incel salience" work like "mortality salience" in terror-management theory?
Thumbnail looks like you interviewed Ted Cruz
I have a question. Why do people still have sex? Sex is very gross, nasty, messy, and disgusting! I don't see how sex is a good thing. Why don't humans just remove sex from this world? Women can still get pregnant without sex (there's a lot of ways women can get pregnant without sex including artificial insemination). Sex does cause a lot of problems, so the world might be a much better place without it.
Michael - watch the documentary Nefarious. Eye opening information about prostitution.
I would like to ask this guy his opinion about Dr. Kinsey. That right-leaning "What Is a Woman" documentary attacks Kinsey as having performed twisted experiments on babies or something, I forget exactly what. I know Kinsey is generally widely respected, and I quite admired him, at least as that Liam Neeson movie portrays him. I didn't agree completely with the documentary's right-wing perspective, but I don't think it was just making stuff up out of whole cloth. (The documentary also bemoans society's (ugh) abandonment of "Judeo Christian Values," for which it also largely blames Kinsey.) I would like to get the objective truth about Kinsey and whether some of his experiments really were unethical.
Michael - you need to be careful when you're agreeing with someone who is balking against modern psychology or modern science. It's everything you've fought against, and on matters of gender - you are falling in to a few of the same traps.
I know what I felt like for as long as I remember anything. I also remember seeing men in dresses as objects of ridicule or fear in the form of murderous psychopaths in film and TV. I knew I wasn't gay and I saw no positive role models. And you wonder why transgender people suffer in silence, sometimes before it's too late. So when all you see is disgust, hatred, fear or at best severe disappointment aimed at how you were born and no place to live as you feel comfortable, what would you do? You man up and pressure cook.
@@gabrielgaidos7015 what other innate condition was regularly painted as an indicator of psychopathic murderer? You can walk through society as a gay person without anyone knowing, but a 6,2" heavily built man in a dress will be! Give me some examples..
I don’t agree with his view on porn. The vast majority of porn is made by men for men. How the women in porn act is how men want women to act. Often that means they are subjugated in some way.
As for his minimising violent porn, how does that explain the increase in women reporting being choked by their partners? If there’s not much of it, it definitely has an influence.
We used to learn about sexual intercourse together, through experience. Now people are learning about ‘sex acts’ through porn. I cannot see how it can be dismissed as harmless.
Sexual promiscuity by its very nature is dangerous.
If Marty was a beautiful woman, this would be a much more interesting conversation. ;)