Yamaha fz6 fazer | 5 annoying things about this bike
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A cheap solution to your heavy clutch problem : change the cable for the "FZ6 Naked version" one. The root cause of the issue is the metal curve just right after the lever, since it´s so closed. The suggested part doesn´t have that curve. I also enjoy a bike like yours......regards from Argentina.
Thanks so much that’s a great tip! I’ve also not heard that one before. It’s a brilliant simple idea that could help a lot of people 👍👍 greetings! And thank you for watching.
Great suggestion. I changed to the FZ07 lever arm, (very little change) a new spline shaft (no change) a new stock cable (very little change) and then I got a pressure cable lube tool and that worked great (who knew that new cables from Motion Pro have no lube) . . for about a year. Now the heaviness is back (lube does not help like before). I did notice this clutch cable has a lot of sharp bends (at the bars and also mid way near where your left knee rests).. Sounds like you remove one of the sharp bends and it is more like a normal cable. I think that is the main cause of the heavy lever..
As a Harley rider, I had to laugh when you called this a heavy clutch. Hate the cheaping out on adjustable clutch lever though!
Haha! I’ve never ridden a Harley but I can imagine what you mean. And I agree about the cheap levers... the stock ones are not perfect but they look and feel solid. Not a fan of the rattle cheap ones that you often see. Thanks for watching !
Had a terrible time with spark plug #4. Put in some good ones (myself! 👩🔧) and hope I don't have to do it again any time soon. My 1st streetbike and I adore it. 5000 miles last summer and I only started in May! Great video, look forward to more.
Thank you, and good job on the spark plugs! Definitely a pain, but worth it for this overall excellent bike! 😊😊 welcome to the channel 👍
Yeah the gear indicator is what I don’t like the most. Have a 2020 R3, fully tuned as my first bike and I love it. Getting an FZ6 as a daily commuter, and to help bridge the gap when I get an S1K next year. Love the FZ with that R6S engine, the R6 is just too aggressive.
I agree. I love the idea of having an R6 but having it ad your only bike would be hard. Not very practical and aggressive riding position. Having said that… so fun to ride for a short while. Have you taken the R6 onto a track yet?
My bike has a gear indicator and I love it. I do get the usual "Oh can't you just ride without it and just remember what gear you're in". Yes of course I can but it is just nice to see what gear you're in with a quick glance.
100% agree. I can ride perfectly fine without it. Would I prefer a bike with one ‘Yes!’
It's definitely possible to change the spark plugs without removing the air box or the radiator or anything for that matter, I did it, but it takes about 2 hours and also I have medium sized hands; if you have big paws forget it lol
Haha! Nice one on getting it done though. I have managed to get the first three out... but the one on the far left (when sitting on the bike) basically impossible!
So I just kept putting it off 🤣
I've got a 08 fz6 and it's currently got 76000 miles on it. Still love it, had it about 6-7 years :)
Nice one! I love mine too. I was really clutching at straws in this video trying to find somethings wrong with it. Glad to hear they can keep going strong for many years and miles! I won’t be getting rid of mine any time soon.
@@FabMotorbikes i change the oil and filter every 6-7000 miles. Haven't replaced the spark plugs for a while, like you say its a pain. Last time they were changed was about 2 years ago by the garage whilst it was getting the mot done lol
If still looking for levers, I got ones similar to these a few years ago, and they have been fine
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FF7YSC9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_0HCJSVN0C94ZD3BRPY5V
I try and aim to change oil every 4000 miles and like you almost never change the spark plugs. when I did it last (the shop did it) I felt no difference any way
Cool thank you. They look good and not too expensive either. 👍
I had a fz6 from 07-12 and I absolutely loved it. And I'll be picking one up again this year.
Regarding your levers, just get some aftermarket ones. I had a levers from pazzo and they were absolutely beautiful.
Nice one thank you. I appreciate the specific brand recommendation. I didn’t fancy choosing some by random from eBay.
Fab, you nailed it! Great vid!
Spark plugs are a bit of the PITA. But when you swap the fluid and the plugs every couple of year makes it "acceptable". FYI they do make a gear indicator both of my buddies have them, I believe it's made by a company called Heal Tec. I like that my VMAX and T120 have gear indicators... Haha I'm a bit spoiled for I love my MPG average gauge... Cheer brother and great job again!
Thanks Jedz! The heal tec seems to be the popular and most reliable choice. Are they easy to fit? Someone mentioned that you had to cut into the wire loom (which I wouldn’t want to do)
Also really enjoying the your Fz6 commuter series 👍
I agree with you about the gear indicator.
I definitely live with it... but it would be nice addition. However I have heard that aftermarket ones require cutting into the wiring loom, and I don’t really want to do that.
Gear indicator i agree ...im new to this bike...im constantly checking which gear im in
My is replaced with Mt07 Lever, works great. Yet to try aftermarket levers, cause got short hands.
That’s a great idea. Is it adjustable?
@@FabMotorbikes nope lever is just slightly longer then the stock fz6 lever.
I have my FZ6 from 2010. And had a S1 for one year before that.
I did not like the dials on the S1 and the blue color. Love the dials on the S2. Some other little details where also nicer on the S2 and this one has abs.
I don't recognize the heavy clutch myself but al always drove on a FZ6 also during the classes. Did my exam on a FZ6 N S1. But I will be trying the MT07 lever arm mod.
The gear indicator is one I do miss at times. But not enough that I added one you do find a system when changing up and down to know in what gear you are and sometimes you think there is one more up but it's not. But that's no big deal.
I only drive 34k in these 12 years so for me the spark plugs are not a big issue they where done for the first time this year. But if you drive a lot its annoying.
One if the things I don't like is the vibrations my S2 has my S1 did not have those like this. I thing it's the full fairing I have around the block because I did not have it on the S1. And a S2 GT I drove with the same fairing also had the vibrations. But Iove the look. Never took them off to test it tho. Might finally do that this year to know it once and for all :P
Owh yeah and I did not like the indicators they are to big stock. So switched those to smaller rizoma's and I don't like the fact that only one light was on and the second one was off. There is a mod you can do to have both on without it being on as a high beam using a bulp that has two glow wires I had had on my S1 looked way better.
On My S2 I did a xenon projector mod the first year. Love that even more.
I still love the bike. I love how it looks and drives. I love the underseat exhaust changed it to a laser quad pipe. Sound it not so good compared to stock on low rpm but the looks are so good! Always loved that look on mv Augusta's.
And the way it drives is also great you have a sporty feel but you still dit up straight so you can do long drives. The performance is also there when you Rev it. But you can drive is nice and slow. It's fun to drive changing gears is reworded with performance.
I did a few more mods to make it a bit nicer for my self.
I have a fabbri double bubble light smoke wind shield it looks a bit more sporty and you can hide better behind it without being in the wind.
And I have a Top sellerie seat I bought that for my S1 took it with me to the S2. It's was nice looks great. You can customize it in all kinds of ways. I always enyoyed it. S1 seat was to hard after 2 hours I would really feal it. S2 deluxe was better but this beats them all with ease.
Other mid I did is up the front sprocket 1 tooth. It's a bit more relaxed in first gear 5th is now 6th rpm wise. And 6th is more relaxed on the highway lower rpms. And the speedometer is corrected a little bit cause it's off quite bit stock.
Only disadvantage of this is when driving with someone on the back trough slow hairpins the it sometimes has a hard time pulling trough first gear. But I drive solo most of the time anyway.
Last mod I did this year was new oil and springs for the suspension. The rear spring was gone after 12 years. And I also found the bike diving quite a bit on the front when braking. That's now way better! It also feels more sporty. I installed a hyperpro set. Really like the improvement.
Owh and BTW for your girlfriend you can get a little pillow to stick on the rear trunk as a back support I have one of those on mine makes it a bit softer.
Thanks so much for the comment! You’ve made some great improvements. The rattle/vibrations are something that annoys me too but as I usually ride with ear plugs i don’t hear it.
Interesting to hear the difference between the S1 and S2. They seemed to fix alot but not everything.
Overall I love this bike and will never get rid of it.
@@FabMotorbikes the vibration is not something I hear you see it in the mirrors en feel it in the handlebars. But my S1 did not have it that much. Maybe I will invest some time to see if I can find the cause it's only at high rpm like 6500+ where it also starts to make the most torque.
Yeah they made some minor changes. But I rally like the result.
I'm also going to keep it I don't think I will ever sell it.
Coincido, una moto excelente. La tengo con 98000 km y los pequeños detalles negativos no son de importancia con la gran confiabilidad el largos viajes, siempre fue la mejor en grupos de motos y además versatil y rapida en todo tipo de terrenos. Vigente a sus 15 años de uso. Gracias
I'd say most modern 4 cyl sports bike engines are hard to change the plugs on.
Didn’t know that thanks
Coincido en todo, pero no en el regulador de embrague, ya que se puede dejar una holgura que te de mas cercanía y comodidad, con respecto a los espejos nunca es necesarios replegarlos para conducir imaginate que Yamaha no puede tener en cuenta semejante falla en la seguridad. Como final, en una moto tan potente al acelerarla nadie mira el tablero para saber en que marcha está, ya que la experiencia en conducción te indica cuando realizar el cambio de marcha, de eso se trata sentir la mota. Gracias por tu video, desde Argentina
Hello Fab. Is it good to remove DB killers from Fazer 2006? And can you show how we can do that. Thanks. Greeting from France.
sorry late reply. I have not ever done this as I like quiet bikes, but its definitely possible. The down side is that it can upset the fuel air ratio in your engine. Leading to inefficiencies. And you may have to get your engine management system recalibrated.
I feel ya on the gear indicator. I’d love to have one. I have an 06 fz6.
On such a high revving bike it would really make sense. I’ve looked into getting one but most involve cutting into the wiring. And I’m not sure I want to do that.
@@FabMotorbikes same. I mean I used to be an electrician and I know my way around wiring in cars and stuff but I just don’t wanna mess anything up lol
same here. Some things are just not worth messing around with 🤣
@@kodakincade8063 i installed a chinese one on my bike, got the thing to work, was relieved everything was good, went to turn my bike on to match the gears up, and it wouldnt start. started freaking out, drained the battery, ended up pulling it to recharge, drained it again trying to start the bike, finally i just ripped out all my hard work on the gear indicator, and the bike turned over and works fine now. I guess i can live without it..
Sorry for the head ache. Glad things are working for you again
Hi fab .good video
Just bought a 2010 fz6Ns2.the clutch bitesbto far away ...can this be adjusted to bite nearer?thnxDavid
Thank you. I had the same problem. The options are 1) buy an adjustable clutch lever 2) loosen off the cable to bring the bite closer.
I initially did option 2 but that slowly got use to the bite point being further away as I moved to using a racing grip (pulling in the clutch with only my forefinger and middle finger)
Hope this helps
@@FabMotorbikes thnx m8
My 2005 FZ6 has over 65.000 miles on it and still runs like new as it has be well looked after.
Nice one. This video is me being very very picky. Really I love this bike!
Gear indicator, yes, the rest....hmm...im new to biking and have bought this as my 1st bike ..mine has adjustable aftermarket levers, clutch not heavy comparing with SV650 training bike, mirrors?? Lol....surely tucking in the mirrors is for parking only and not riding? Otherwise, take them off and leave them in your garage. Ease of changing a plug??? Surely if u can do it then, its not really a problem, its a "serviceable" part on a bike but every 20k u say so.. again, a one time job. Try changing a bulb in a modern car then comment. Im glad i watched this, Its now been confirmed that this bike was a good choice. I'd be more worried about the front sprocket bolt running loose tbh
Safe riding to all!!!
You definitely made a fantastic choice in bike. Ride safe!
Totally agree ...changing bulbs on modern cars ....I'm sure they make it tough song visit them
the only thing that annoyed me really , is that the fairing plastics are too wobbly .they feel cheap made, compared to a cbf 600.
Definitely true. I should have added that to the list. I think because I often ride with ear plugs, I don’t hear the constant rattle
You didn't mention. But I think is essential is a air horn so those idiot's in cars can say I didn't see you any more. I fitted a Steble air horn on my second FZ6N for around 40 dollars. By cutting off a section of the mountain bracket it will fitt under your seat out of the weather. Great CZcams video on how to install.
Thanks that’s a good idea. The standard horn doesn’t really cut it at times . I’ll have a look into it 👍
@@FabMotorbikes 👍
Can I have more info to make the clutch lighter? I just got a 96 fz6
You can swap out the slave lever with that if an mt-07 (fz07). Instructions on this can be found here: www.beginnerbiker.com/2019/09/fz6-mini-mod-fixing-heavy-clutch/
@@FabMotorbikes thank you so much!
i bought agear indicator from aliexpress for 28 € or something like that, i have put 12000Km since and it is working fine, with reain sun and everything in between, i recomend one of those
Brilliant thank you very much. I’ll look into it!
Could you please share with us a photo of the gear indicator you bought? Thank you!
@@kukmarley I never got round to it. Ivan (above) may be able to help you?
@@kukmarley i can't share pictures on youtube i have just checked the name of the product in aliexpress, search for alconstar gear indicator on aliexpress and you will find it.
@@kukmarley i uploaded a video where you i can see the gear indicator when the bike is turned on to my profile channel if you want to check it
Hi
I’ve taken off in second gear a few times unknowingly. Is this bad for the engine?
It’s probably okay… but given this engine has very little torque at the low end of the Rev range you may be over stressing the engine a bit. But I highly doubt you have done any long term damage so far
@@FabMotorbikes Thanks for responding! It’s something to avoid I guess.
Nice Video buddy, iv a 2006 fazer and my mirrors fold both in and out? Only found out as my fiancé reversed and clipped the mirror backwards 🙄 but I’m surprised the S2 doesn’t have that feature?
Hi Steven. Glad you like the video. I have done that a few times (by accident too lol). I didn't feel it reduced the width of the bike as much as as pulling them towards me. But will definitely give another shot!
@@FabMotorbikes from what I remember, mine went right the way up infront of the bike if anything was more narrow than folding inwards? When filtering etc I find folding in is fine but have also found my hand gets in the way at times. Overall a fantastic bike though, keep up the good work! 👍
I agree, this bike is amazing! I’m definitely nit-picking in this video. 😊
Would you please let me know
How to change temperature F to C ?
Hi Ricky I’m not sure how to do this at the moment. I’ll look into it and get back to you if I figure it out. Thanks!
Thanks brother.😇🙂😎🐘🐩🐈🐓🛵💚
Thanks for watching
The healtech gear indicator is a plug in on the Fazer, probably the best one to fit, AndyManCam fits one here to his FZ1 czcams.com/video/l6JB6ZgbC18/video.html
Awesome thank you. Plug and play is what I want. I’m not too interested in cutting into the wire loom in anyway.
@@FabMotorbikes I fitted a new cable to my S2 Fazer and it made a huge difference to the clutch pull, also make sure the clutch lever pivot isnt worn, lube it with a heavy grease, oil just washes out, if you need to lube a cable it needs to go in the bin in my experience, the cable is easily replaced on the Fazer
Thanks. I’ve done that recently and did make a big difference. I put a venhill cable on there. And on the packaging it says that you should never oil it as that will only attract more grime.
I’ll give greasing the pivot a go too thanks!
After 5 yrs I'm pretty happy with my FZ6 but got sick of the rattling plastic fairing so I went naked. This also solved the mirror issue. Banging through the gears is just how the bike is. Aftermarket levers helped a little and gave more to tweak with, plus cable lube frequently. As far as gear indicators go, imo all that matters is knowing when you are in neutral, and you get a happy little green light for that. Having high awareness like what gear you are in is part of surviving riding. All these annoying things are small potatoes considering how affordable and reliable the FZ6 has been for me. SAFE RIDING FAB! Now dry that bike off.
Thanks so much for the comment! And I agree completely 😊 these issues really are such ‘non-issues’ I’m yet to do anything about them and probably never will. Love this bike !
The rattling noise you're talking about, I went to view a Fz6 today and it had an intense rattling noise everytime I gave a slight rev. Do you also only hear that noise when you rev it or even when it's idle?
Gear indicator is my biggest gripe I guess. I have the 06 N, so I feel like I am in the middle of a storm at all times, kinda wish I had a fairing :)
My half fairy is surprisingly effective. You could add a small windscreen, and you’ll be surprised how much protection it will give
@@FabMotorbikes Sorry for late reply, CZcams didn't notify me of your reply until now. 🙄 I'm looking at a Puig screen as well as a few others. I love the naked looks, but a bit impractical when I like doing longer rides and on top I live in every windy area.
@jonbeargenx piug screens are great. 👍
I love the bike, but vibrations over 5k rpm just kill it for me
I get what you mean. I find it’s more the audible vibrations over the physical vibrations. But because I wear ear plugs most of the time, it doesn’t bother me.
My R1 has the same problem with access to the spark plugs, takes all day just to change the plugs
Yea it’s quite annoying. Probably a combination of being water cooled and having 4 cylinders. I guess like me you get high quality plugs and just leave them in there for a long time?
@@FabMotorbikes This bike is very easy to do maintaining things on.
@@X2hedX I agree super easy. Only changing the spark plugs is a little annoying 👍
The mirrors fold forwards down towards the headlights
I see what you mean… but still not ideal. Thanks for watching
I really want to have a Fz6, it's price is so low that I can affordable
Definitely! You should get one. They’re are amazing. Only a few very small problems.
I made another video with reasons to get one >> czcams.com/video/Qs0-nNW3Dy8/video.html
真的很好的摩托车👍
最好的！
I got the updated one
I have a 2007 S2 and I have a gear indicator
Really? That’s interesting. Did it come with the bike as standard?
@@FabMotorbikes probally not. Never saw one that had it standard not in the S1 or S2 range.
I thought so thanks 😊
what year is your bike bro?
2008 👍
Я тоже люблю его!
What do you say about an access to the battery?
I agree that is bit annoying too. The Fz6 s2 requires removal of 2 plastic panels and then you can pivot the tank upwards. Its not ideal... but I’ve had bikes that were worse. e.g Suzuki sv1000 and van van 125.
How do you find it?
@@FabMotorbikes i know it's not changing the battery but it gives you access to it. this is the method I use for pivoting the tank, you don't have to remove the small panels.czcams.com/video/7Q-DCLtSOc4/video.html
@@johnmccallum9429 thanks a lot for this. Which version of the bike do you have? I feel this would be useful for the earlier S1 versions. This appears a little bit more risky (as the tank is no loner secured) and a little bit more work.
@@FabMotorbikes I have the exact same bike as in the video, the tank is secure because you put the bolt back in to hold it, you could also just hand tighten the nut back on to be extra careful, but i 've done it and no need. I find it easier than having to undo all the screws to remove the small fairing panels. cheers.
@@johnmccallum9429 ah yes I understand now. Thanks again!
Any bike having No 'Gear Indicator' is a 100% deal killer, i would not be found putting money on it!
Interesting, good to hear they are as useful as I assume they are. I’ve never had one, so I guess I don’t know exactly what I’m missing… but with a bike that revs this high that little bit of extra information would be nice
@@FabMotorbikes It was my first street bike, 1982 Suzuki GS550, it came with an indicator, i won't settle now and 'is' why i love the FZ09 just that much more to this day! I came close to getting the 2001 FZ1000, but no gear light, so i walked.
Fair enough. It seems like a standard thing with modern bikes nowadays. I’d look into getting a FZ09 as my next bike. Seems like a great engine.
They dont give you an adjustable clutch lever for a reason. If you where to adjust it to close to the bars then you will have less action in it and when you pull the clutch fully it will not be enough movement to disengage the clutch plates resulting in you burning up your clutch plates.
Hi Ricky thank you for the comment 😊 always awesome to get different opinions, however I don’t agree.
In the case of the Fz6 (and most bikes) the difference between engaged and disengaged on the clutch equates to a very small distance in lever movement. It would also be possible to counter the effects you described by adjusting the clutch cable or in extreme cases the angle of the clutch actuator arm.
You are supposed to set your clutch freeplay to about 2-3 mm. If its to tight then there will be constant pressure on it and you will also burn your clutch out and cause slipping when in gear. If there is to much freeplay then the clutch may not fully disengage when the lever is pulled. So in effect by bringing the lever closer to the bar you are reducing the amount the actuator arm moves which would mimic having to much clutch free play. Read up on clutch free play and you will see.
Thanks again Ricky. I understand your points, however in the case of the FZ6 the clutch is so on/off I still feel an adjustable clutch will work fine.
In my case I have smaller hands so I have had over the recommended 2-3 mm free play in the lever/cable to help my ease of use. Over the years of owning this bike I have never had any clutch problems, never smelled burning plates and never had excessively dirty oil when changing it. An adjustable clutch lever would probably allow me to put the 2-3mm free play back into the clutch free play.
But I do take on your points and is definitely good food for thought. 👍
When i say 2-3 mm i mean at the opening near the clurch perch but with the fz6 they say to measure it at the end of the lever and what you are looking is 10-15mm. It seems the fz6 does have quite an on/off clutch. A lot different than my zx12r where the clutch needs to be just right or your in for a world of trouble.
It definitely could be that I got lucky with the clutch action on the Fz6 being as it is and I’ve been able to get away with it.
I’ll remember that if and when I move to another bike. Wouldn’t want to assume and then be in that world of trouble you described! 😆
When some more Fazer video coming
Soon. Life has got very busy as I have a baby coming soon. But thank you for asking 😊
@@FabMotorbikes oh wow congrats
Thank you 😊
This guy's got 5 things he hates about this bike, but I didnt see the first video, I think k he loves this bike.
True! Only 5 things I hate. So much more that I love
Я владелец YAMAHA FZ6n и у меня такие же неудобства, мне приходится с ними мирится.
Я до сих пор очень люблю велосипед!
I could ride on the back to tell you what gear your in.
🤣 definitely a viable solution!
@@FabMotorbikes kewl bike. I want a 07 fz1,, so good vid on check over list, especially the expensive brake rotors.
FZ1's are great bikes. And they pretty much remedy all the issues in this video on the F6
@@FabMotorbikes racing is good for technology development, that engine had to earn it's way on the track, lighter faster stronger, it's a great idea adding mid power cams and getting them on street bikes.
No gear indicator? Big deal!!!!... Grow a pair!
😂😂
Put your cap on the right way then I'd listen to you
thank you for your feedback
So I hear it rains in Britain...😂
Just a bit 😔, where are you from?