An American's Pros & Cons of Swedish Schools
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Now that my time teaching in Sweden has come to an end I decided it was time to reflect back on what I thought were some pros and cons of working in the Swedish school system.
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The confusion around the Swedish grading system is confusing to the students to
Yea it was kind of confusing for everyone and even experienced teachers could debate about which grades to give in different circumstances. For the most part I think we were able to make it fair in the end, but really an odd system.
Stefan Thyron Yeah, the system is totally f*cked. Teachers can do whatever they want, there is no control. And it is out of hand! Which grade you get as a student depends heavily on the teacher... Thanks Gustav Fridolin.
Schools and grades has been made and remade everytime we've shifted between S government and M government since the 80's. It's a total mess, schools used to be good but politicians broke the "don't fix what isn't broken" rule and tried to "fix" a very good system. And now we're stuck with a fucking mess.
I grew up with G VG MVG, that was alot easier.
Naeira K Yeah, you’re lucky!
Also, in Sweden, college will not leave you in an absurd debt.
Lmao yees 😂
Yes, many in debt here in America. I am lucky though, I love in America and get all my school paid for (I am in nursing). Since I am considered low income I get plenty of grants and apply for scholarships. There are plenty of scholarships here for any income though, it is just a matter of finding them! Everything is just so expensive here.
The thing about punishments is because we don't believe a punishment will make someone who behaves bad good to their core. We believe that the children who behaves a certain way gets it from home or that there is something troubling them.
I think Sweden would rather help a child in trouble than give them more negative thoughts! :D
I actuqlly believe that the Swedish system is better than the American one, even if it can be confusing at first. You can't just judge someone after numbers on a test, you have to judge all their abilities that can be shown at different levels at different times.
I know that we scandinavians go after that detention or similar doesnt help at all. I kind of disagree. As teacher for a year i met parents who thaught of teachers as the evil itself giving the teacher a breakdown on a daily basis for a month. Then the class was remixed with another class which helped. I got a student who was expelled from 7 other schools. He just had given up on schools and tried to distract class as much as possible. Not that he was stupid, he just was behind because his former teachers couldnt controle him. And detention or some other kind of punishment maybe could help some kids to face that teachers are there to help them but they them selfs have some responsibilities too.
Tro mig, jag jobbade som lokalvårdare i skolor under 4 års tid, och du vill ibland slå in pannbenet på vissa ungar. Ordet respekt finns inte för vissa elever så ibland tycker jag att lärarna ska få ta tag i ungarna åtminstonde för att visa konsekvenserna av deras beteende. Annars så kommer de att vara så i hela vuxen åldern, och det funkar ju inte riktigt. Man behöver kanske inte slå ihjäl dom men i alla fall ta tag i dom, göra något åtminstonde.
LOL im not talking about killing them, not even hitting them. But northern europe is an area where verry few wants to take responsibillity. And in my eyes thats been the case at least for 20 years. So where should they learn to respect another person? I had a child with diabetes where the parent forgot to give his boy his insuline and when teacher complaines he was moved out of that school. So call me all you want, but I still think a childrens licens maybe would be in place before parents can get children. So that parents learn about the minimum responsibility of parenting
The thing about teachers not having their own rooms in Sweden is something that's only used through 1st to approximately 6th grade. It's probably to make it easier on younger kids so that they wont have to move around much, and like you said it builds stronger bonds within the class as well, which seems to be something the schools here think is very important. But 7th grade and up, when students are older and have gotten to know eachother more, teachers generally have their designated classrooms and the kids move around instead. This could also be dependant on how many classrooms are available at the school etc.
When I went through grade 6-9 both we and the teachers were moving around. In a general classroom any language, social studies, religion, maths etc could be taught. Then there were two or three rooms fit for science classes that were shared between those teachers.
I think it just depends on which school you go to, since its still the same for me, a ninth grader
Vilda Stensson I think so to. In my school grade 1 - 3 we only had one teacher to each class in every subject, then in the fourth grade we had one teacher for each subject. And then in 5 - 6 grade the teachers have their own classroom and the students switch.
Hey Stefan I live in Portland and I wanted to let you know that you’re a huge inspiration to me. I’m a Freshman at Cleveland high and I went to Stockholm last year for a climate conference and I’ve been wanting to move there ever since. I’m learning Swedish on Duolingo right now (halfway through!) and I’m hoping to go back this summer to improve my skills. I love watching your videos and look forward to meeting you someday.
That's awesome man, keep up the good work!
Fan vad kul att du vill till Stocholm!!! Förstår du det här eller är det lite för svårt?
@@felixsvensson9823 Nej, det är inte för svårt för mig men det tar några ytterligare sekunder att förstå. (ursäkta mig för den dålig grammatiken).
@@jeremyclark9697 din svenska är jätte bra ❤️
Tack!
Btw. All Swedish schools have Free lunch, usually the students have the same classroom from 1-6th grade and after that the teachers have Their own classroom. The swedish grading system is weird and good because if you are on a A level and get a E on a test you Will get a D if you dont fix it.
BTW, a teacher thats qualified in other countries then sweden it says that you are not qualified so thats why in some schools it looks like there are not many qualified teachers
Lunch is free for all students but not all schools has free lunch for teachers (pedagogisk lunch).
det är inte gratis på alla skolor dock men dom flesta
To become a doctor in Sweden actually takes quite a bit of time as well. We have a slightly different system but after high school (gymnasium) you go to university for 5½ years. After that you have to do your internrotation - which is called AT in Sweden - which is a minimum of 1½ years (usually it's 21 months though) and after that you do your residency (ST) which is a minimum of 5 years! And even if you get your internship and your residency "back-to-back" from university (which is very rare) it will still take you twelve years here as well. ;)
About the lunches: it's compulsory for primary schools to have them, but not for secondary schools/high schools, but most of them choose to do so anyway. I know in some high schools that don't have kitchens, they can give the students coupons that they can use to get food at nearby restaurants
Simon Stadin it’s mandatory for every school, doesn’t matter which grade, to give free lunch. It can be in a dining hall or as you said by giving coupons
A big problem with the grading system being up for interpretation is that different teachers can give completely different grades for the same assignment. One teacher could consider the work I've done to be on a C level, while another one could consider it to be on an A level. But when applying for gymnasium or university, everyone's grades are regarded the same. This results in an unfair advantage for those that have overly "nice" teachers and an unfair disadvantage for those that have overly critical ones.
I went through school right when this system was just implemented and the teachers were very confused and frustrated, often showing quite clearly that they didn't know what grade to give. I've even had a couple ones that simply didn't want to use it and would put all the mål (goals/criteria) on the same level, based on a rough estimate of what grade they wanted to give.
So this system is stressful and confusing for both teachers and students, and it can often be unfair.
It can also be exploited if the teachers are told to give better grades, to boost the status of the school. Grades are up for interpretation, so there's little to no consequence for doing so.
Yep. when i went to school we had 1-5 grades. but the teacher sets the grade themself. we had 2 girls who was totaly bad in english and math but got 5 due to the teacher liking them (they was such asslickers) But also when i started "högstadiet" i got a teacher who didnt like me due to she didnt like my parents. and that sucks when you get low grades due to the teacher dont like you . as they dont know what the hell they do to a persons future.
well . good for me i never ever needed to show anyone my grades in worklife. my work and dedication shows itself. but damn i hate some teachers in the past
Teacher be like "Skriv det nyanserat"
"Utveckla svaret" .-.
”Du fick ett A på nationella men får ett D för dem andra proven” 👍🏻
Var glada om ni inte har behövt göra en mattetentamen i Teknisk Fysik - de uppgifterna kan bli helvetiskt dryga ibland, ganska vanligt att man sitter i 20 minuter med en enda uppgift och sen hittar ett slarvfel som man måste rätta sen.
Laurelindo what? När gör man dom? Vad går du flr linje?
@@Angie-yx3mb Teknisk Fysik förmodligen lol
Du har något som heter SKOLPLIKT i Sverige, med andra ord säger Sveriges lag att du skall gå i skola från årskurs 1 till 9. Gymnasium är frivillig men man "måste" gå tre år på ett nationellt program för att ha en chans på jobbmarknaden . Det är därför elever inte blir reglerade från svensk skola
Sist jag kollade var det upp till tolv år som gällde
kricku nej, skolplikten är 0-9...
i'm from Spain and here we also get to choose subjects in our final years of high school (which lasts 4 compulsory years and 2 more years if you want to). there's maths, physics, ancient greek, latin, history of art, economics, geography... I think it's good that students get the chance to make their own decisions and focus on things they like
about the discipline, i think in general sweden has a very different view of children and would prefer to help, support and adapt rather than punish. the whole punish and discipline thing has always left a very bad taste in my mouth and i've always thought that it's comparable to how you'd treat a dog. adults and children seem to be more equal here than in america, just take the first name basis as an example. calling an adult by their first name in america is for some reason seen as disrespectful and in sweden no one really ever goes by their last name. don't know if it makes much sense and i understand why you think it's a con having grown up in a different culture but in my opinion it seems better to try and help and support kids who "cause trouble" rather than punish them like a dog.
Really close to 50k subs now! Grattis!
You have some great points as always. I lived in Norrköping for 10 years near where you taught. And I miss the city. You have such good footage of the old industrial area. My hood ; ) Good luck in Stockholm Stefan!
What a phenomenal view....I would be a poor student because I would be looking out the window at the stunning views...turning off the professor and being memorized by the beauty of the view. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for an interesting infomations about education in Sweden and USA. I'd vizit Sweden with love. Will be glad to meet you there!
Yes he is slowly becoming a swede. He puts ketchup on pasta and soon he will be celebrating midsommar 😏
Titan Jazza I am swedish and I hate ketchup and don't put it on anything. Am I not a real swede?
Beaver Ones *YOU. ARE. NO. LONGER. A. PART. OF. BRÖDRASKAPET.*
Wazahh Das wooozah agree
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Queen Duncan Donut Of Scots ok
You rock Stefan!!
Yes, it's very true that Americans are more strict with discipline in schools, but see how far that has gotten them? It's one of the world's most violent nations and I think a lot of that can be attributed to the focus on punishment in schools rather than education and support. My sister went to an American high school as an exchange student and when she came back home to Sweden she was broken down. Teachers would punish the students for what they were wearing rather than focussing on the hard work they put into their school work. That might not be every school in America, but I have been to a few and it is quite scary when you hear what goes on there. But as we say in Sweden: smaken är som baken; delad! Great video though! :)
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Great video. Really beautiful in Norrköping but so is Stockholm. Good luck with your moving.
The system of "classes" in Sweden and the dynamic schedule comes hand in hand. Because the classes have the same subject together all the time the schedule have to be organized so that it works for all different teachers and digferent classes. That is why it looks like it does.
can you do a video when you compare the metric system vs SAE/ standard measure system?
The class staying together through the years is a swedish standard, but going to different classrooms to see their specific teacher and that subject, is actually common in sweden too. Mayhaps the teacher shares the classroom with another teacher when he/she themselves aren't using it, but generally the kids go there to study the subject you teach. So it's not that much of a con, you've just been unlucky - and the kids staying togethr, the standard, is quite positive! Cause kids still always bond cross-class eitherway through the years, it's unavoidable.
Kids who face suspension and expelling are usually in such bad places swedish system rather help them get on track, than suspend them and just ensure they never improve their life.
Gymnasium is like the mix of high school and college, as far as I've gathered. And it's pretty cool that it's so broad you can choose what to focus on - that said it's still difficult AF for kids to know what to pick cause there's too little information regarding what leads to what.
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I went to University in Stockholm. I studied English only one year. Classes were tought in English. We had to read 8000 pages in English literature. It also included grammar, pronunciation and some history and a section of American English lterature and history. At the end there was a two hour oral. I also did a year of French a year of German. My aim was to become language teacher.
I remember having Spanish class in Elementary school, but I hated it so much. I took ASL in high school and loved that. Now I am in my senior year of an interpreting program at my University.
I am from sweden and my teachers has their own classrom so that is from school to school
You should come and visit Nynäshamn!
God jul!
Were your Swedish speaking skills good before you started teaching, or were you able to get a teaching job with little/basic Swedish?
I'm loving your videos - they're all very insightful!
My first job was at an international school so English was the main language! But I learned Swedish quickly just being around kids all day
There's not one thing I disagree with in this video. Also thanks for clearing up what the frick high school is 😆 Have been wondering for years and years. Since I don't know how to google (apperantly) I have been guessing so far. 😁
Bra jobbat! 👍🏻 Lycka till med flytten!!
Not really related to the content of the video bu I have to ask: the music you have in your videos, is that something that you make yourself? A lot of nice tunes coming from them, it'd be nice to know a bit more on where they come from and, in the case of them being part of different songs, where to find them. Also, super interesting video.
Best youtuber ever
When I was in school, we started learning english in the 4th grade and in the 7th grade, the language-options open to us was french and german. Today, the kids start learning english in the first grade in some schools.
Tommie Jönsson i alla skolor i Sverige börjar man lära sig Engelska i 1:an, och moderna språk i 6:an
@@nisse1337 Det är kanske så nu, men när jag gick i grundskolan så var det som jag skrev - på skolan där jag gick - fast det var på 80-90-talet.
Tommie Jönsson jag vet, jag förstod i din kommentar vad du menade, men jag ville bara förtydliga hur det var idag:)
@@nisse1337 Ah, okej. Tack.
Ketchup on pasta is a normal thing here, i love it.
7:02 Well there is IES which does have punishments, detention, suspension. They also let the teacher have their own room were students go when having a class. It is a variety between the American school system and the Swedish.
PS A guy got suspended last week for punching the principal, and IES stands for the International English School.
Students vs teachers moving between different classrooms, that depends. For example in my school years during 1st class to 5th, both students and teachers (mentors in this case) had the same classroom. Then during my 6th and 7th class, it was same classroom for students, different for teachers. Then during 8th and 9th class, they reversed it to same classroom for teachers, different for students. In my entire gymnasium period, it depended on the school subject. Language subjects were located in classrooms in one area of the main building, social science subjects had their classrooms on another area and science subjects including math had their classrooms in their very own separate building. That was both convenient and frustrating at the same time.
And remember, this was *my* experience with the schools I was studying. The differences in other schools are vast.
Another thing to add to the free school lunch is that we don't have to pay to go to school either, rather we GET paid to go to school. I'm a swedish high school student and I get paid around 1,300 kronor every month because I'm going to school, and ontop of that we get free school lunches every day. We even have our own thai-buffet which is also free and we can bring food from there to eat whenever we'd like.
Spot on with the cons on punishment and grading, we haven't really figured those out yet. Punishment is very tricky in the Swedish system as kids are obligated to go through school and they are also assigned which primary school to attend, as such any form of suspension can only be applied in the most extreme cases. Its hard to tell which is better as many troubled children do need help rather than punishment, but there are also some that would respond better to punishment.
Grading is for me more simple, we just don't know how to do it right in Sweden, and the discussion is often more about general ideologies than evidence based suggestions. "The kids are getting stressed out about having to perform all the time" or "the kids are getting stressed out by not knowing what they should do". The way you compared our grading system to the american I would say you have a much better idea of how it should be done, it leaves less room for individual teacher interpretation and makes it more standardized, which is a good thing.
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We usually have the same schedule every week too.
I actually think the fact that we can choose which "program" in gymnasiet/high school we wanna take is more con than pro. We're only 15 and the decision does have a pretty big impact on what our futures will look like. Same goes for uni, having to pick a major at 18/19 is REALLy difficult (possibly written with a tiny bit of personal frustration) and as you said, does keep a lot of people from starting their higher education right after high school (which isn't necessarily bad, no). Even if you do enter higher education immediately, though, lots of people decide to change their "major" later on, meaning they'll have taken maybe a year of classes, for one specific occupation, that they won't have any use for (which is not only a personal loss but a loss for society as well but that's a different rant). You might find those two years of general classes unnecessary and that might be true if you really do know what you want to do, but you said it yourself, you didn't know what you wanted to do when you started college - you found out while you were there. That's what I envy.
There's just.. a lot of unnecessary stress in having to decide on your future occupation so early on -- and with very little awareness of what options there are and what you think you'd enjoy as well. There aren't many American ways of doing things that I admire and wish we could incorporate in Sweden but the way college/university is structured is definitely one of them (tuition excluded obviously -- I know how lucky I am to be born in a country with completely free education).
... Sorry I hijacked your video I've just been thinking about this a lot lately and kinda really wish things were different 😪🤔
I'm very interested in the bilingualism stats shown at 06:05. I was very surprised to see the difference in bilingual percentage between Denmark and Sweden. Can you link where you got the information? I really want to check that out.
You should come to Finland. We have the best school system in the whole Europe. There is a absolutely great system in some parts of Canada as well.
When I was in school we had 3 grades:
The lowest grade was based on the knowledge you had about a subject, sources and stuff.
In order to get the higher grade you were valued on the presentation, source critisism etc.
And to earn the highest grade you were supposed to do the previous two plus reasoning and adding on a little with your own thoughts and values - Also the common terms that was included in all grades was to be open for questions and stuffs, but no discussion because it's not an university evaluation.
In my opinion it is a much better system, because if you base the gradings on points some answers might just be pure luck, and it doesn't feel right to get a better score because of that. On the other hand, this system maybe puts a little too much pressure on a student that is still developing and learning though. So I can understand that it was changed. People are different from eachother and might not be in the same stage of development as someone else.
Hey Stefan!
Did you work at IES? They are at my university in the USA recruiting teachers for next school year. I was just wondering if that is where you worked and what your experience was!
Thanks!
Mary
Every school in Sweden offers free lunches
It’s free for students but not always for teachers
Some high schools in Sweden offer lunch cards so the students can decide what they want to eat. The cards are capped so you can't order everything for free.
Personally, I know so many people who still graduate college in America and still don't know what they want to do in life. I, on the other hand, knew exactly what I wanted to do going into college.
In the elementary school it's very much as you said, not so distinct what grade is supposed to be given. Though in the gymnasium and especially at the university it's a lot clearer.
Hi Stefan! I have a question: I'm a english teacher and would LOVE to go to Sweden (I literally have a passion for this country since I was 10 years old haha), is it possible/easy to be a english teacher in Sweden? Or just in another topics like quimistry etc? Thanks!
Maria Eduarda Correa contact a IES Internal English School its a private school its about 30 schools around Sweden.
I have my 2 boys in IESB International English School of Bromma. My eldest started in fourth grade and now he started hes nine and last term in grundskolan..
If you have a chanc to go back to Sweden, try to book a meating with the school!
IES has high standard, vinni
engelska.se/sv/our-schools/where-find-us
Men alltså, jag har aldrig fattat nivåerna. Highschool är gymnasium - eller? Men sedan då? I Sverige är det: gymnasium > universitet. Vad är college egentligen? Högskola/universitetsnivå?
I have long-term subs in PE, math, science, chemistry and biology.
Grades here in sweden is designed so that the sudents who mabey doesn’t do well on on test will have a chance to get a better grade if they are for exampel participating in class with different point of views or answers questions
How do you feel about the winter that’s coming ?
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Well,if you want to be a doctor in Sweden you first have to study 3 years åt high school with very good grades . Then 5,5 years in college,then you are a resident för 2 years. If you want to specialize in something, say pediatrics for example,it takes 5,5 years more. So, about 12- 15 years in Sweden too.
What’s the support like for students with learning differences, autism, any other special needs - in Sweden? How inclusive (or not) is the Swedish system and culture in general? Thanks
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Greetings
How much does a lunch in America cost ?
[I'm in 9th class rn in sweden and this is ma days in school]
Monday; 8:10 - 14:00 (Got changed this monday from 14:40 to 14:00)
Tuesday; 8:10 - 15:00
Wednesday; 8:10 - 15:00
Thursday; 8:10 - 15:00
Friday; 8:10 - 11:30
Het, what are your thoughts on Swedish music and other media?
I don’t think suspending/expelling a student will solve anything. But I do think Sweden needs a better system (or whatever you want to call it) for taking care of students who misbehave.
For example, I’m pretty sure many students would do better in school if teachers or somebody else maybe a special kind of teacher would do something about students who disturb the class in different ways.
I remember in my class there was always the hockey guys who were disturbing the class.
The thing you said about strong relationships it’s not true in my case because I switched classmates when I started in seventh grade and I also switched to a different school ,from middle school to high school
Wait a sec...did you work at Film och Musikgymnasiet?
In ”högstadiet” the teachers have their own classrooms but you have the same people in your class
August Olding va det hade inte vi både elever och lärare hade olika😂
Where did you apply or how did you find the job?
This video was really cool I want to become a teacher Lektor high school level in us I guess vidregående here I love working with teens and working to help students
Well I go in Da Vinci Skolan, and I kinda laughed when you show the beutiful invorement... Search it up, I bet there are some pics
I know that im 2 years late BUT the swedish grade system, i like it in one way but hate it another because it really depends on the teacher and how they grade it. I the 9th grade i had a math teacher that wanted me to have F on my test but then we switched math teacher, and she wanted me to have D. It’s not much butter but i got so happy for that but yeah....
I know that you made this video a long time ago, but i am one of those "sub teachers", i have a bachelor in archaeology and more than 300 points (högskolepoäng) in humanities. With my educational background i am more than suitable for teaching both Swedish, history and religion. The shortage of teachers in sweden now is sadly the unions fault (lärarförbundet) and the rightwing parties, when they started their campaign "kunskapsskola mot flumskola" in 2010. Before that there was a lot "obehöriga lärare" or unauthorized teachers, but teachers who had been working within the school for a very long time. Teachers with a lot of practical and professional experience. Since schools aren't allowed to hire a substitute teacher or obehörig lärare for more than 24 months now (it is really against the law) it makes it very hard for schools to find a long term solution for the shortage. And because the union, lärarförbundet is so strong, they wont allow the teaching position to weaken, because lets face it, the shortage really gives authorized teachers an upper hand in getting good work conditions and salaries.
But it is clear that this instability have created more chaos in the schools, with high flux on its personnel and more unrest and stress with the kids.
I was thinking about going to sweden, but there are some things that I kinda didn´t understand while I was searching.
People say it is hard to find a house or a room or wtv, I'd like to know better about it (like how much time do you normally take and how does the points thing work), because I kinda wanted to do the university/college in there to adapt. can someone please help me????
Most universities will help international students with housing!
Housing is crazy difficult to find in certain areas (mostly big cities, but if you're loaded with cash you're pretty much safe), whereas in other areas all you have to do is ask. Check with the university you wish to attend if they offer housing for international students and try to find a list of private landlords and check for available accomodations. It's not nearly as impossible as it sounds, but depending on where you decide to go you might have to put in a lot of extra effort in finding a spot.
The point system is, basically, the queue to getting an apartment. Higher points get first call. If, say, you're interested in going to Gothenburg, you'll want to sign up at boplats.se now and you'll be able to pick more freely in about three years time - if your aim is to end up in a top shelf kind of area you'll be waiting around 5-7 years instead. This does, of course, not mean you can't possibly find somewhere to stay, it only means that the most open channel for acquiring housing is rather slow. From what I've heard, same goes for Uppsala and Stockholm.
@@patriksvensson2360 Thanks for spending time explaining it to me! I was nearly giving up on going to live in there cause of the housing thing, and, as I am not a person with a lot of money, I was afraid of going and not finding a place to stay so I'd waste time and money for nothing.
Now my mind is clear :) thanks again!!
say also about nationella provet in sweden
I come from a background where I was heavily graded in my school much like the American system, with clearly defined marks and boundaries. That is standardisation across a larger population. With a lower population of students across a country, you really don't need such stringent standards. Having a standard limits the number of students that can go to the next level (Be in university / jobs / etc) However I honestly don't get the point. Does a really good grading system matter?
To me if you can divide a group of students based on their ability to do something in relative terms, it makes teaching easier and you know whom to provide extra attention to. You don't want absolute levels of skill, since we are humans, and the ability will always vary.
With 10 levels of grades, whats the added benefit when it comes to help / teach different students of different grades differently?
When I was in fourth grade which I guess would make me 10 and the year being 1989 one kid in the class got to switch school to the another one because of his behavior. Including attacking the principal.
And when I was in fifth grade which was 1990 I got to change school because of all the bullying at the school I was at. I also stayed home for some weeks inbetween. Maybe a bit weird the solution was that I changed school but whatever.
One would assume they do more about bullying but then again whatever this was "expelled" or a dialog with parents and a solution together .. End result was the same regardless.
There's one gymnasium program in "Nursing and caring" or whatever. Three years like all of them. To become a (common) doctor in Sweden it's 5.5 years in college and 18-21 months of practice, to become a specialist there's another 5 years of study meaning 12-13 years in total.
Are you the voice behind the youtube channel ”Chills”?
There are some schools in Sweden that do have detention and that you can get expelled from however these are 'friskolor' and not owned by the government. My school had entrance tests so you had to be quite smart to get in and it was a privilige to go there and so if you misbehaved like ALL the time you could get expelled. With that said it was the best school ever.
My school both teachers and students has mixed classroom
In classes 1-5 l, I had only one classroom.
In 6+ i have had different (:
But we always have same classmates.
You can’t get expelled from school here in Sweden since each student has the right to choose which school they want to attend, so then you can’t really kick someone out from the school. I think there are some scenarios tho when a student can get expelled, but I think it’s like if they broke the law. We had a bunch of kid at my previous school doing drugs and stuff and they graduated from that same school in ninth grade with everybody else. It’s kind of weird I know.
Er war heute bei uns in der Schule.😂
2:10 det är i alla skolor. Sverige är typ det ända landet i världen som har den som lag! ❤️
There's ketchup on my pasts, 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
We have 2 foreign languages to learn in school. First English, second Spanish, german or french.
A teacher having his/her own classroom is actually a great idea, i don't know anyone who has thought of it, atleast from who i know
But for students its a pro, to stay with other kids in one class. And they can feel comfortable, safe, secure, family-like with the same set of 20 kids... of course intermingling might be happening for other activities later.. like music.. maybe.
I personally think the cons u listed are also pros (except the last one)
Usually the teachers have their own classrooms. But i depends on What age they are in.
Did you work at a gymnasium or at a school
Very nice video, interesting to hear you compare things in usa to swe.
I actually don't think a swedish school can send home a disturbing student, all kids MUST go to school by law and if a school can't give the student this the school are in big trouble. I don't say I like this but, u know, what to do to... Thanks man! Ps. Another thing come to my mind, about free food in school. I don't think a swe school are allowed (by law) to do any things that requries money from the parents... this to prevent a child to be left out. That's kind of nice I must say.
Tbh, it's a thing in sweden, i dont know it it's a law but the school NEEDS to give food at least once to everyone every school day
Biggest con that I think every swede agrees with as well is the discipline is lacking in Swedish schools and it has been like that for way too long.
I'd say the major difference in outcome of study depending on school is an even bigger con, not to mention that the Swedish school system is kind of homogenic in ways of teaching methods and the "one size fits all" of pedagogy leaves certain students behind. The way I see it, with other teaching alternatives, perhaps reinforced disciplinary methods might not be needed. I believe that every student is entitled to an enviroment that promotes learning, but to me, that doesn't necessarily mean dishing out punishments as much as seeing and meeting the needs of the individual.
We have gymnasiums all over the europe
Actually, for me when I was in school, high school and middle school we the students were the ones going to the different classrooms with our teachers always having the same classroom. Maybe it differs from school to school.
Also on suspension and punishments, there are, but you really have to be a horrible student and like generally a bad person for those kinds of things, I know we had some problem kids who were pretty bad but they kept on getting better and by the end of 9th grade, when we were 15 and going to graduate they had become normal students. Not because of punishments but because the teachers were there to encourage them and help them. I feel like punishments might be good in some cases which is why we have them, but they won't become better students by being punished, be patient, encourage them and they will get better at least from what I saw and how my middle school did it.
Less Precis grading, I'm guessing you meant "less Accurate grading"? Starting to get that swenglish sickness? :D @Stefan Thyron
The disciplin area is a great problem in Sweden and it makes me happy to hear that the situation in USA are better. The ironic part is that the Swedish school law is rather potent but are rarely implemented. One reason to that is that the schools are afraid to offend the student that are causing problems. So in practical terms it's OK to cause problems for others almost entirely without any tougher actions.
In my math class we pretty much nerver work. We are on our ipads and scrolling on instagram basically lol, oooor maybe it's just me and my friends lol
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The reason for that is that the nordic model for child rearing and education has a different focus.
We don't believe that those disciplinary measures are needed in the first place.
And if you ever choose to take pedagogy classes in a nordic country you might find that your toolset for dealing with problematic children will be expanded past those disciplinary measures.
Neither our schools nor our justice system focuses on punishments.
Instead of we look at root causes and focus on changing motivations and behaviors.
In my view that is a pro and not a con.
As in *my* personal opinion the focus on punishing people instead of actually looking into *why* people are acting in harmfull ways and teaching them to *want* to do otherwise is harmfull for both the individuals in question and society as a whole.
Regarding the whole grading system.
I believe that's intentionally a bit less precise and a bit more subjective.
The precission is meant to come from the dialogue between the teacher and the students and parents not from the grades directly.
That moment when you go in one of the worst schools in sweden.
Like for real, it's true.
And the 2 other schools in ma town, a girl did only 2 essays and got B (Almost best) in swedish class, and i did feel like i get anxiety and shit because i had 2 essays not done, every else was and that's why i got E (almost failed)