2016 Alfa Romeo 4C Spider Review - DETAILED in 4K
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I love this car so much that I went out and bought a 4C. Everything Alex says about this car is so true. It is not comfortable, you feel every pebble in the road and there is really little room for any baggage. But man, it just is so much fun to drive. It's fast, sounds great and does it get attention! It certainly is not a daily driver and if you want to drive and listen to your radio, this is not the car for you. In my case, I take it out once or twice a month for a curvy Sunday drive and come back smiling. It's a fun toy to have!!
I've been looking at this car recently, but have not driven it. Why on earth does it not come with a manual transmission?
Glad you are stuck with this uncomfortable car and not me.
I just test drove mine, what a rush!
I realize it's pretty randomly asking but does anybody know of a good site to watch newly released movies online ?
@Kaden Albert Lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
Probably one of the best reviews on the 4C I have ever watched.
The most detailed review for 4C!
This is gonna be a future classic.
It’s a classic now
In the U.K. prices are not far off what a 4C cost new
A Porsche however just falls out of bed value wise..
Thank you Alex
There is nothing to compare with Alfa Romeos,they are unique
and experience plus Italian style has given them a cachet .You
either like them or you don't.But any serious driver who really
likes to and knows how to drive will love this car.
I have the Mito QF....wish I could get this one.
Omg, when you first introduced the cargo area all I could think was "yep no way he's going to go in there" then the next frame you're literally sitting in it. XD I'm dying, kudos to you and your dedication! love your vids.
Excellent review of a terrific car. I have the coupe version and love it. It is very different than Lotus, Porsche, BMW...and that is why it is so cool. It is a drivers car first and foremost...everything else is secondary. Have owned and driven all of the various cars I just mentioned...enjoyed them also but not not as much as the ALFA.
Just a follow up.....still have my 4C.....it has been dead reliable and on track is bullet proof. With some minor mods it becomes a real track terror. For more info join the ALFA 4C Forum....I am one of 3 world wide Super Moderators there.
It's unbelievable cars CAN actually be this beautiful! Definitely a purist pick.
The 4C is a street legal 4 banger race car. Even still, it's bite the back of your hand beautiful.
Great review! Straightforward, no posturing, no whiny voice, just the facts. Keep it up!
Another great review Alex, I love this Alfa and it's raw back to basic design with high tech carbon.
I've been watching hours of content, nobody came up with the fast way you're putting down that top. Very good move, I learned something today. Thanks!! :)
Nice review. This car isn't for normal transportation. This is for fun in the weekends. It's a toy. And what a great toy it is.
October 2022: Best 4C review I've seen, and I've watched them all. This video was from several years ago, and since being discontinued in 2020... prices have SKYROCKETED amongst collectors.
This is undoubtedly, a future classic.
I just bought a 2020 4C, with 4800 miles (3 years old), and the Akropovic exhaust option......
..... 3 days ago ;)
@@Eap35 Before answering, be aware that prices vary dramatically between models.... and that price variation is "basically" dependent upon 3 things;
1. Mileage
2. Options
3. Condition
My car was the last year made (2020), has only 4000 miles on it, has the VERY RARE Akropovic exhaust, it's a Spider (convertible), and is in absolute dead-mint condition. So, obviously I spent on the "high end" of their value range.
$78,000 US Dollars.
However, outside of the USA, prices also vary dramatically. I recently went to an exotic car dealership in Brussels (Belgium), in which 2 of the 4 models they had, were well over 100,000 Euros.
Mileage is the most important. Because they are rare exotics, 30,000 miles is considered "a lot", and will dramatically decrease their value. Options also have a huge impact. The Akropovic exhaust is BY FAR the most rare option, and can genuinely increase the value of the car by $7-$9k. Launch edition models don't "appear" much different, but because they are rare, can also increase the value a few thousand. The pearl white (Madreperle) color is also a HIGHLY sought-after color (not to be confused with the standard white).
Hope this helps. Good luck.
Nice well rounded review going through all the relevant facts about this car. One of the best 4C reviews Ive seen out there. Well done.
I really appreciate this detailed review. Whether or not you like this auto, a review like this can make any decision easier. Thanks Alex.
What a great review...I especially appreciate that you‘re attempting to be dramatic for the views. You simply tell it like is. How refreshing...subscribed because of it.
WOW the driving segment was absolutely great. Excellent work alex!!!!
Hi Alex i have to say your reviews are absolutely amazing you cover the important things well and don't over exaggerate on the less important things. Thankyou
Alex summed this car up perfectly at the end. This is basically a second car to enjoy as a toy. I used to own a 2006 Lotus Elise and it was simultaneously the best and worst car I've ever owned. It was not my daily driver so I absolutely adored it. If it had been my daily driver I think I would have hated it. I have been looking for years to get another car that would give me the same thrills and I think this Alfa just may be it. I will be buying one next summer.
This isn't a car you would drive every day. It is a car you take out on sunny weekends for a drive in the mountains. Personally, I would love to take one for a spin even though I probably wouldn't fit very well in it.
Thanks for the review Alex. I'm a huge fan of you and your videos.
The 4C seems much like a throwback, almost a modern MR2. It's very hard to compare this to anything on the market in the US today, as made evident by you spending nearly 6 minutes trying to find it's equivalent. The 4C seems like the perfect second car. Your daily, numb, Camcord can be supplemented with a visceral weekend experience. Whether the US has a demand for that particular (high end) niche car has yet to be seen. I love the idea. Being a single male in his early 30s without kids and disposable income, I love the idea. Will a middle aged, person with a family (the most likely demographic that could afford this car in the US) justify the purchase to their significant other or themselves? I'm not so sure. I will say, I'm certainly happy this car exists and I can only hope it isn't a flash in the pan. Also, if I was living in a state that required a front licence plate I think I would just pay the fine, that front is just too perfect to sully with a plate.
I'm glad you got your hands on a more exotic car (Wow, this tester already has 24,000 miles on it). I thought the Nissan 370z was harsh, but not anymore. I'll bet the Lotus's are just as bad. Last year, there was talk about Alfa Romeo and Mazda working on a new roadster, but I it's more like Fiat & Mazda instead. It's an enticing car, but If I had the money, I'm not sure if I'd own one, unless I'm like Reggie Jackson or Jay Leno. I grew up in North Beach of San Francisco, so I remember seeing Alfa Romeos everywhere, so I'm pleased Alfa Romeo is back in the U.S.
+cadsux The car has about 4000 miles on it. The trip has 2338.9.
Thanks. I barely noticed that decimal point before the 9.
Loved the review, Alex. Let's face it. This is an Italian sports car. Who needs trunk space and interior room? Just get in, annoy the neighbors with exhaust note for few minutes and then blast down the street.
Nice to see you getting into driving it. You even called it a "sucker."
Great review. I think you get the car. There are more of us than you'd imagine though that use the car as a daily driver.
Just want to give credit to the reviewer here for one of the best reviews I have seen on any car. So many reviews are horribly biased either in favour of the car being reviewed (i.e. it was sent from heaven and can do no wrong) or against the car (i.e. I don't like it personally so I'll just bag out everything about it).
Alfa Romeo reviews especially are prone to falling far on the edges of one of those two categories - people either ignore the faults and rave about the car just because it's an alfa and they want to love it...or else they bag the living hell out of car and turn the whole video into "lets spend the next 20 minutes cracking jokes about Alfa reliability and quality":
In this review you were 100% objective, and while you gave some insight on your personal opinion of the car, you spent the vast majority of the review giving factual feedback on things it does well, and things it doesn't do well. That's exactly what a review SHOULD be, so kudos and great work.
Why are Americans always moaning about cupholders, to small, lack or wrong place?
Why is it so important to have very large well placed cupholders in a car like this?
It is not possible to drive without drinking all the time? It's not very likely you gonna drive this car for more than 2-3 hours at the time, so where is the need to drink anyway...
It really is a cultural thing. Americans are much more likely to commute in vehicles like this, commute longer distances and much more likely to eat in the car. We Americans didn't get this fat by abstaining from burgers on the way to work.
Alex hit the nail on the head, we need them big ass cup holders to keep our big ass sugary drinks, medication/ opiates or coffee stained sticky coins.
Perfect review! This is how a fair and unbiased review should be. Totally objective and Alex understands the purpose and intention of the 4C. 👍 Unlike those idiotic biased journalist who only complaint about interior quality.🙄
been waiting for this review! thanks alex!
SWEET SOUND...I wouldn't wanna listen to any music because that sweet exhaust sound is the best music to my ears!
Great review Alex i really like your approach
@Don Pedro: Yes, this is one of the best reviews of the 4C... One day, maybe. I am intrigued by the car.
Alex, thanks for the very nice professional review. Very soothing clean delivery.
how is loud cabin noise a problem? you hear the engine in all of its glory and if you don't enjoy the sound, get the mufflers.
Great to see some professional reviewers operating in the Bay Area!
Hi, AlexOnAutos team. I don't know if you guys can make this happen, but im gonna ask any way. When you guys are showing the interior, could you put the car in a dark garage or film a small portion of the interior shot at night - to show how the interior dials and knobs light up (or don't light up) at night. Please also show reading lights and any lights along the door seals.Also, please show how the exterior lights "behave". This would be greatly appreciated. I love your in-depth reviews, otherwise. Keep up the great work!!!
Hey Alex, I think that low door-line is because you're not supposed to actually open it to get into the car but just place your hand on it and jump in...like in the movies. 😄
Hey Alex great review. Are you planning to review the Gulia
+Kendall Jackson I sure hope so :)
Thanks a lot for the review!
I see this car rolling on Pirelli P Zero tires. Those are on some cars too sticky on the limit. I wonder how this Alfa would work on something like a Michelin Super Sport tire. Lovely car!
If I didn't own my Lotus Elise, I would be looking at one of these.
Great review; a perfect car for any performance driving enthusiast that won't cost a house. Thank you.
It's a beautiful car. I think those interested in such a machine understand the weight saving quirks and it's a niche market. But I prefer my Lotus, namely because she has a cog swapper and not those flappy paddles.
+ihopetowin I like these new 4C headlights, a lot better than the early headlights.
It just shows how amazing what Mazda has done. With steel/aluminum construction, all the convenience/modern equipment you miss in this car, new Miata weights less than this car (MT or AT). Sure the HP number is low, but I guess you can add a turbo and some proper modification that still weights lower than this carbon tub.
Great review, thanks for posting!
Very nice review. Given the stellar performance of the 400 pound porkier USA spec version, I would love to drive an EU spec version. The exclusive trunk comfort index segment was great.
Alex im 6'4 and love this car. Question will i fit in it?
do an update of this car. im thinking of getting this car soon alex.
Good review. The ND MX-5 is a front mid-engine car, though. Looking forward to your review of one, esp. now that you've reviewed the 4C.
Mazda's use of the "front mid engine" term is unusual to say the least. Their definition is simply that the entire engine is behind the front axle. But by that definition( and indeed that is in their definition) then almost every 4-cylinder BMW would also be so described. (And a few Mercedes and Lexus models and a V6 Dodge Challenger) According to the SAE there are only three different engine layouts, front, mid, rear. Because the engine is in front of the front passenger compartment there is no way for that design to be a mid-engine. A mid-engined vehicle requires that there be some substantial portion of the body aft of the engine and the entire passenger compartment in front of it.
I should also say that the Mazda Miata, because of the front engine RWD design has a perfect 50/50 neutral weight balance which is my preference.
+Alex on Autos Don't see many exotic cars with the engine up front. Or, F1 racers. They are all in the middle. For good reason.
Maybe Tony the mechanic is hiding in the front. I just wonder if that top leaks.
+pedrof830 My 2015 Camaro convertible leaked like a sieve.....had to return it....
Bravissimo, Alessandro!! 🇮🇹🇺🇸🇨🇦
gorgeous! Believe I like the coop better.
Alfa is not for all drivers, it is more like passion. I drive a 1985 GTV 6, It is not comfortable, The clutch is hard, The steering is same as 4C, Expensive to maintain, Gear are set differently, A lot of cabin noise but overall it is a fun car to drive, @ 60MPH, The engine roars even with factory noise reducer. I love my Alfa. I see similar features in 4C.
The 4C is a masterpiece
Alfas Magnus Opus
The last car that nailed it so well is the ‘69 1750GTV Mk1. Or if you’re going even purer, the 105 Coupe GTA corsa.
After the 105 series it’s all went to crap for Alfa.
Please do a review of the new 2016 Corvette, as well as Apple Car Play and Android Auto. Thanks.
I can't believe this thing is a 2016 car..
Alex do you think someone 6'2" with long torso would be okay? Im sold on the simplicity of this car but do not want the convertible/removable top. Wish it had a manual as well but i get the dct has more appeal to average drivers. Great review as always!
+Blake Swan It is possible, the only way to be sure is to go sit in one :)
Alex, good to see a Michigan tile.. Go Blue
Great review. I am thinking just drive it to the Autocross Track. Very different.
Great presentation!
I"m relieved to see the ride and cabin noise are D+ --- or I'd have to steal one of these.
Love this car, if I get one its getting the Zender add ons.
Cabin noise is no joke as an owner of one, you cannot have a conversation with the person next to you easily. Also installed a new stereo because the original one was terrible with the coupe.
omg the content on the side is lovely A+++++++
Hey Alex,
What mountain windy road are you referring to?
Great piece of italian design. Not so sure of that interior though..
4:42 the best part of the video
Why do the headlights look different from the USA and Europe?
Could you please review Alfa - Giulia... ?
Alfa, you've come a long way since the 70's baby. (not)
+pedrof830 Seems you COMPLETELY miss the point. Some people, me included, couldn't give a damn about suburban comfort. This is the girl you die for, not the woman you marry.
Miyatullah, I feel sorry for your personal life bro.
This is a secondary car for someone (best if he/she is a contortionist) to take to the track on weekends. It's also a car to rent for the weekend when on holiday but to purchase,...there are better choices.
Yeah it's more of a weekend car
This is an old fashioned sports car for people that like driving fast and purely for joy or fun. A weekend or track car...a Ferrarri for the middle class.
Thanks for the excellent review, it ain't a Miata, you get the point across.. well great closing remark.
Correct.
It’s a pure as can be masterpiece for the thinking man.
@Alex on Autos 370z Roadster? or this? (or maybe even the new Nismo Roadster when it comes out)
+Kelvin Tso The 370Z is nearly 33% heavier than the 4C, so like many of the other 2-door cars out there its not really the same sort of thing.
The Z has 1.4x the power, but I guess it's still down to handling, where weight is a big factor. Better questions is, which 2 door convertible would you daily?
With my own money probably the Audi A3 or a used Volvo C70.
Where would one mount the front license plate?
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
THE KING IS BACK !!!!
BMW WHO ?
Hey Alex what road were you on when road testing the alfa?
+Tech Defender A mixture of Highway 35, Highway 92, Summit Rd, Black Rd and Soquel San Jose Rd.
Would it fit someone 6’2” ht, 200 lb with a linebackers body?
david collins I feel like this is a trick question...
Price is way too steep. Also no Manual option?
This is a go-cart. Plain n simple luxury speed-boy go-cart.
OK. So here is the problem with getting a car that is so specific. It is true you cannot compare the BMW 2m or Porsche to them...but they give more. LOTS more.
These cars allow for you to stop doing that ONE specific thing this car was designed for and do OTHER things.
Who in hell can have a car for THE thing? OK. so you can stop enjoying your exhilarating speed and thrill steering..and then maybe drive around on the main roads in town. But it simply is horrible to do so. You hit every driveway curb. You feel every damned pot hole. You can hold ONE bag of groceries. No air. No glove box.
Being poor at anything other than THE thing. That is not cool.That is the issue.
This cool for tools. But when it comes to 60K plus in car money...the car has got to give you more than the THING it does.
This is why formula cars are not found in garages. They do one thing.
+paul pellico The reason formula cars aren't found in garages is because they're not road legal. It's just a matter of personal preference and wealth if you have both a track toy and a daily driver in the garage vs only one daily driver that can be tracked.
Has this ever been crash tested?
Soo.... What's your criteria for a trunk comfort index of 1/10? :-)
+duckofprey1 The Infiniti G37 with the top down gets just 1 cubic foot of space, so literally you can put a small umbrella in there and that's it. At least the 4C held one suitcase.
That's what a Ferrari Dino was supposed to be, imagine if Ducati steps in the ring and produces something similar? Oooh Weee!
Yep. It’s the Dino’s grandson
Screwing the hood? What is this a TVR?
Well,done👍
This car is was made just for pure driving fun.
Compare in depth to ND stick shift miata if you dare, Alex. Same weight without the carbon fiber BS, much better daily drive ability No reviewer dares to do that because that is the LAST time they will get an exotic.pricing for this is a joke...let’s see...no steering aids $5000, remove muffler $500, lol. Gotta love it.
2500LB? So Hammond was right, it is heavier than a MX-5
I dont imagine someone will buy this car
id want to bring my work associates to lunch in that car
Get an NC miata with an LSD and turbo BAM 4C
Toyota made this 25 years ago called the mister2.
This is Alfa trying to tap into the MGf-TF market. It's not a race car... It is a sports car NOT a race car.
No power steering for the driving pleasure but no manual option either. Does have shitty radio and air conditioning to save weight and keep the price down but also have stupid laggy electronic instrument cluster. What were you thinking Alfa?
I wonder if someone will buy this and daily drive it, because this car seems like a pain to deal with. I'm a car guy, but not an enthusiast. If I had $71,000 to spend on a car, I would get a loaded CTS V-Sport, or Audi RS5. The 4C does look fun, but I'm a sucker for a nice interior with all of the gimmicky gadgets and modern conveniences. I do want a car that is fun to drive, but for 70k, I want XM radio, backup camera, cooled leather seats etc. However, like you said, that is not the car's mission. It's just not for me.
i daily 4c even though my other cars are rx8,bmw 220i t
ourer
It’s not supposed to be for everyone
It’s not a basic curry. It’s a vindaloo!
This thing is a perfect example of why Alfas left the US decades ago.
+James Tennier Groan. Surely, there must be some Americans with soul!
Haters gonna hate.
What you need is a Hellcat or Demon.
I watch alex for a year or so, and I never recall a ride quality of a D or like a low number lol this car must be ultra stiff.
"We do not have a glove box"...WTF?...Come on! This is a race car!
As usually, great review, but MANUAL STEERING???
Um women can steer this thing. You better start hitting the gym snowflake.
its not an advantage for you guys (US), since european version is much lighter.... europeans dont need cupholders :)
Ya, you're right. Europeans don't need to re hydrate.
Its all about comfort here in USA
Why didn't they just make it automatic, or do something like what Mazda did with there Mx-5 Miata and just make it where you pull the top from behind you rather than having to physically attach it to the car its self. Kinda annoying. And that trunk if you even really want to call it that is ridiculous. but if your buying this thing, its definitely not for practicality...lol.
+Julien Michael But cool little sport car though.
+Julien Michael would have added more weight. I have one and the trunk is stupidly hot the size is less of a concern for me. I drive it daily.
Alex....I don't think you get it.....you're waaaaay too focused on "Cup Holders and Carpets".....that's not what this car is about....if you want an appliance...buy a Cayman....D
Alex, I like your videos. I just don't like this car. It is impractical and expensive. If I had $71,000 extra cash, I still would not have bought this car. But your reviews are great though.
+bird271828 Rich people seldom worry about value or practicality.This will be someone's second or third car. If you want practical, maybe buy a Honda. This is something very different.
I'm noticing that American host love to say how the Alfa has this and that like the Dodge this or Chrysler that emasculating the great brand of Alfa Romeo. The truth is the Dodge and Chrysler get these similarities from Alfa Romeo, not the other way around. Fiat owns Chrysler and similar is not the same or exact which means not the same so the engine is pure Alfa Romeo. Plus it's an exotic car, not a Dodge Dart, so of course the trunk is small. Why would you compare a sedan with a sports car.