Troy Deeney CLAIMS Arsenal Are "NOT TOO FAR OFF" Being "PERFECT" After EXITING The CL! đđ€
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 04. 2024
- Troy Deeney & Andy Goldstein discuss Arsenal being knocked out the Champions League and what it will take for them to win a trophy next year.
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It is beyond my understanding when people start judging Arteta for having raised expectation to an Arsenal which two years ago was not at any sort near the top 4 even to reach the championâs league. He has now created a team that has been considered favorite against Bayern and that in itself is a huge step ahead. As an arsenal fan , I am still grateful to the incredible Arteta for having put our team to such level of expectation and look forward to next steps.when talking about the 200M invested last year no one talk about Timber who is part of that and managed to play only one game and no one remind people how Chelsea, Man U invested over the last 5 years without showing a difference. Currently Arteta has reached the same level as Gualdiola ( probably the best ever manager to exist ) , and he is just two points behind that guys with six games to go. I am sure any other football manager in the world football would only be congratulating Arteta for his achievement at this level based on the two achievements that everyone is using to criticize him. Gunners letâs suppose the incredible guy we have in Arteta.
Just meant same stage in the championâs leagues when talked of same level as Gualdiola.
Itâs such a great point. Arteta is the man
BahahahahaâŠ
The man buys players or extends their contracts and then doesnât play them..
Fabio Viera?
Nelson?
ESR??
He insists with Havertz, Jesus.
In the meantime he has managed to burn out The likes of Saka and Martinelli.
The only reason Arsenal are where they are is because teams like United and Chelsea are in the rebuilding process.
Arsenal have lost 10âŠ. Thatâs TEN losses in all competitions this season.. and the season is not over yet đźđźđź
You are so far from perfect, itâs not even funny.
Keep up the delusion thoughâŠ
Itâs free entertainment for the rest of us đđ
I agree with some of your argument but he's literally won nothing since the fa cap which he almost inherited. Surely football is about winning trophies... even the carabao cup would be a big thing
@@user-tb3vg1dy8duniteds rebuild has been 11yrs explain when its supposed to end lol Chelsea have a joke post roman no point mentioning them
Andy would have Arteta at Man U tomorrow!
Hahahaha, shocking manager
Troy would make a good addition,i could listen to him all night on the radio đđŒ
He was bang average as a footballer. Very lucky to be a pro.
Goldstein bringing up Timber and we all know he hasnât played, heâs such a đ€Ą
As arsenal fans we again need to be careful with the media agenda which keep questioning Arteta despite all the progress the guy has made. In 2017 , Gualdiola had the best squad with Man City and his team got eliminated by Monaco in the round of 16 of the Championâs league. Everyone talked about Championâs league being a different competition and highlighted the lack of previous experience of winning the competition by City and everyone was patient as no one could criticize Guladiola. The guy repeated the same and got eliminated by Lion in 2020 in quarter final, still no one questioned Gulaldiola. Both Lion and Monaco are not any where near Bayern and still canât believe the media being negative. At least Troy Deeney seems to have an idea of the incredible job done by Arteta and the directionâ€
He will never be on peps level youse have spent a fortune and probably nothing to show for it the guy should be booted out youse r bottle merchants.đđđđđ
@carolqueen1052 , but you're offering nothing but weak childlike playground banter insults. Talk like that to the other kids at your school it'll probably seem less pathetic then.
All those bashing arteta are rival fans , they cantbelieve they will watch arsenal play CL every season and their clubs will be in conference or preparing only for FA and carabao rounds
Were you at the Bayern game on Wednesday witnessing the incredible job done by Arteta and the direction?
that Bayern goal music is such a troll
IK, lmao right from the beggning of the video people love to troll arsenal, though they will be the ones getting laughed at next season
fantastic
@@greyhagman8960 Arsenal fans in 2004 - "People love to troll arsenal, though they will be the ones getting laughed at next season"
@@PaulClarke-dv5sr united fans talking from 7th cba
@@PaulClarke-dv5sr Now that "hate watching" in Europe is done.. We are back in the premier league where Fulham has scored more goals than Manchester United.
These panelists need to be realistic. Arsenal have improved massively
Goldstein asking these questions and still backing Ten Haag!! LOL
Whenever I watch Arsenal, it makes me think Haaland chose the wrong team. Because Cityâs extreme possession ethos is not suited to Haalandâs style of play. Arsenal are very good at keeping the ball but they are much more direct and counter much quicker than City. And I think that would have suited not only Haaland much better but provided Arsenal with the true goal scorer theyâve been lacking. Because as solid as Havertz has been the second half of the season, Haaland is on a completely different level.
Said this day one, Odegaard is also his friend, so they would have had immediate chemistry on the pitch, he'd literally be playing right behind him feeding him the ball.
Holland doesn't want to go to the bottlers r u kidding me ,hilarious lol
What about bottlers , that means we have 19 bottler clubs in EPLâ@@carolqueen1052
@@carolqueen1052 As hilarious as your inability to just do a simple Google search in order to spell a person's name right.
@@carolqueen1052I didnât know a country could play for a football club tbf
Deeney obviously didn't see us linked to Gundogan every single week before he went to Barca then...
Pep Guardiola couldn't win the Champions league in 4 attempts with a Bayern Munich super team.
It took Pep Guardiola 7/8 attempts to win the Champions league with Manchester City.
Klopp has only one Champions league trophy in his entire managerial career.
Mourinho was hired by Real Madrid and given unlimited resources to deliver the Champions league and he failed.
It's only Mikel Arteta who's expected to win it with his first attempt.
I know where we were before this man and where we are at the moment. Call it a blind faith or whatever but I'm not giving up on him.
We fall short, rise up and go again until we make it Mikel.
Arsenal (Woolwich) throughout its existence has never won the UCL, history says they are in it to make up the numbers
Where was all this talk when Liverpool were spending money and coming close every year
Deeney was still on the pitch playing then, heâs only just retired and on radio
@@PALWE referring more to Goldstein
Well ok that's a fair excuse.
What about the 700 million spend over last 4 years and hardly scraped past porto and couldn't even score a goal at Allianz they didn't Even bother throughing the kitchen sink
â@@rashidkhalid3970Another way to look at it is that it took Pep, who is probably the greatest manager of all time something like 6 seasons and well over a couple billion pounds and 115 financial doping charges to win the champions League. It took the second greatest manager (that is if you believe that horseshit) Klopp, a mere 15 or so seasons to win the champions League. Context is important
@@rashidkhalid3970 klopp joined 9 years ago and pep 8 years. Pep spent 1.2 billion and klopp spent 700 million and both only won the trophy once. Arteta has been there for half the time and inherited a squad that needed a total overhaul - pep Inherited Kompany, Sterling, Aguero, De Bruyne, Silva, Fernandinho which all became main stays at the club under him, klopp inherited skrtel, couthino, sturridge, emre can, Gerrard, lallana, lovren most of which became main stays. Apart from the academy arteta overhauled the whole squad and it's worth mentioning the inflation of player prices in the last couple of years too, a 100m pound player was unheard of a few years ago which was when the main purchases of Liverpool and city occurred.
Unfortunately Arsenal have to nudge out City for the league. The Champions League is a lottery. United were class for 20 years and only won 2 Champions Leagues in that period. Arsenal fans throwing their toys out the pram cos they might not win a trophy this season is ridiculous.
Arteta is doing a good job plain and simple. His time will come
Timber was about 35m Lool whereâs he got 50m from
Imagine a Man Utd fan mocking Arsenal. The way TalkSport treat Arsenal is a disgrace.Since Raya came in Arsenal are on the cusp of breaking records for away clean sheets, thatâs no coincidence. Heâs so calm but his ability ball at feet has made Arsenal so much better beating the press.
They are just a new manager and a new number 7 away đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Were a season away striker away of a top tier team who will improve well done lads
Aye u said that last year đ€Ł đ bottle merchant youse will never be better than city or Liverpool r u having a laugh arteta will never be on peps level lol
Real Arsenal fans in August 2004 - We're at least 20 seasons away from even coming close to winning the EPL and being a top tier team again
In it to make up the numbers, source HISTORY
Arsenal are challenging for the league title, but how does any club beat City? ⊠Liverpool are challenging, Klopp has only won the prem once with Liverpool because City are that good.
Winning the league is about who has the best squad, Troy nailed that.
Last year arsenal lost Saliba and Partey in the latter stages of the season and dropped points because their back up was Holding and Elneny who are not the same level.
City have injuries and look at the quality they have on the bench.
Arsenal donât need a LB as Timber was there before he got injured. We need quality at CM next to Rice, competition for Saka and a Striker. If Ramsdale goes, which he probably will, we need a decent back up GK.
Why is everyone talking like we have lost the league already ? Is very disrespectful to all the teams City have to play. We are only 2 points behind for God sake, this league is definitely not over. I would also keep in eye on Liverpool. City are first now, but a draw, and they could end finishing 3rd.
I agree with him on Raya so far
I didn't know Troy Deeney was this knowledgeable about football
I'd sign Isak i was Arsenal
As if heâd go to arsenal
@@djharto4917Of course not because he already plays for a team that constantly challenges for the league and CL and won several trophies in the last few years LOL
And what exactly have arsenal done in the last few years ?
@@djharto4917 Far more than Newcastle.
@djharto4917 , improved every season, picked up valuable CL experience, gone from 5th to title challengers!
What are you talking about?
Haters gonna hate!
With timber we go to a 5? đ he's starting at lb and cover for rest of backline
Troyâs the man. Speaks a lot of sense
Troy talking some sense for once on this channel compared to the others
Cole Palmer has the same number of non-penalty goals as Havertz
I've noticed lately goldstein bringing up how Arteta spend half billion all the time, He forgets his club spent ÂŁ411m in one year. And are sitting midtable đđ
Not one of those players that united have brought would get anywhere near the arsenal team. All are useless. đđđ
â@@aarondesimone2826Rasmus would be your #9.
Darren Bent does not show up for this one the coward
Their bench is disastrous and nowhere near good enough to challenge. Their bench is bang average at best and players like Nelson, Nketiah, Elneny would end up playing for clubs like Besiktas, Palace or even worse so how do you expect to challenge for the CL and PL title with these players on the bench? Impossible. They have to get rid of the entire bench and sign solid and quality back up options
Truth
Alvarez would do well at Arsenal ... just putting that out there
All banter aside, this Arsenal team are very good, theyâre literally 2 signings and a whole season of experience (which they have gained this season) away from being Prem title winners. I think theyâll do it next season
We said that last season
Same question goes to andy, his team spent millions as well. Nothing changed for them. Except changing managers đđ
Our team was actually doing very well until Arteta decided to mess with positioning against Aston villa, still trying to make sense of that "royal screwup...."
Then there's the Kiwor mess where he actually did well but punditry told Arteta our left back is a concern without kiwor doing much wrong....
Fast forward after kiwor got benched and even out of the and the rest is history...
"Don't mess with the system", that's our coach's lesson, hard lesson he learnt....
Timber cost 35 million, not 50.
Kai scored a brace last night. Do you like him now?
Theyâre becoming Pochettinoâs Tottenham 3 years in a row of shortcomings. This is going to be humbling as Arsenal fans love to overrate their players
Itâs hard to win when the team youâre competing against is under investigation on 115 charges
Not an arsenal fan but all they need is a top striker who can put all the chances they can create in the net cause that's all there missing.
most goals scored and the least goals conceded and this guys asking are we better
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What Italy did you guys watch at the euros ?? "Not attacking" ??
We're top of the league!! jesus or havertz aren't the answer upfront. Bayern have harry kane, sane, gnabry real Madrid have vinius jr rodrigo, mpabbe coming. City de bruyne, haaland. Arsenals front 3 need 2 reliable goalscorers that can do it at the business end of the season.
I think the timber thing is unfair heâs been injured all season
As an Arsenal fan we quite far off, we still need a ST, CAM, CDM and RW. Arteta yesterday stupidly took the game to Bayern but as the away side we should of parked the bus made the crowd and players nervous. 70 min they push for a goal and we hit them on counter... instead we got hit on counter away??? Made no sense
Nah your analysis is crude
nah all we need is a winger and a center forward then we are perfect
We dont play the counter well tho
@pimpstar15 "we don't have the footballing heritage to win the game"
Only at Arsenal....
You must of watched a different game to me then!
A LB, Jarrod Bowen & Ivan Toney would help Arsenal greatly.
Being perfect??? No striker, no left back, no partner for Rice, no back up for Saka, no world class forward and no back up cbs, as well as no top keeper. Yea not too far off
A manager with some charisma
I don't think we need Tony advice for Arsenal fans with Brian to know that already. If anything Arteta is doing a amazing job, this english media and Af TV is a joke đđ
Timber had ACL first game for a start
Arsenal are a striker , number 8 and saka competition away from winning this league , If we sell Eddie and Nelson and elneny and spend 300 on 3 big players we will do the lot especially with timber coming back
As soon as Arsenal lost, the talk in the papers was get new players, spend more millions. ??? The Premier league is Absolutely ridiculous.
Do they say the same about klopp hes challenged city but only succeeded once đ€·ââïž
... That was not an 'horrific performance '.
need to send Raya back to Brentford. He isnt an upgrade
It's so funny the way Goldsteing talks about Arsenal for attention "1-0 THUMPING defeat" he says. bro is just tryna make us mad ik he is jealous
Jealous of what exactly ?
@@djharto4917his club are in the mud finished bottom of the group with 4pts and will probably be in the conference league next season.
He is also yet to see his team enter 1 title challenge with pep gaurdiola or klopp for that matter since theyâve been in england. So yh plenty to be jealous of!
â@@djharto4917 We are neck and neck with liverpool and city and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. His team have a negative goal difference not thanks to their players, but to their horrible ownership ensuring that no player can save them from falling, not even ronaldo lolololol
@@djharto4917 Watch the Schweinsteiger and Neville interview and you will understand why United is a failure of an institution. Even Neville admits it. Arsenal get called failures by twitter nerds below them in the league table. United gets called a failure by its own legends cause its true....
Since arsenal last won the league Man Utd have won
5 premier leagues
1 champions league
1 europa league
2 fa cups
4 League cups.
I donât think any Utd fan should be jealous of arsenal.
Also arsenal are not in a title race they pretend to be. Arsenal are roughly the same price with book makers to win the league as they were at the start of the season. Go figure. Title contenders. You lot never learn itâs the same rubbish every season. Mugs
They just need a top class manager do you fancy the job Troy, oooops.
Andy comments really didn't age well did they?
So deeney saying arsenal can get the "cojones" đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
I call BS Andy Goldspeil.. Darren Bent doesn't play your whole "lets have a childish playground rivalry with our teams" all he does is give his opinion on United as his role as a pundit. He doesn't discredit them or make fun of them. Its all you Goldspeil. You HATE Arsenal and use Darren Bent to project your hatred.. Give it the old "its only for Benty" yeah please you aint fooling anyone
Only City edge us cause of a killer 9 & experience. Arsenal will have their time.
Bring back Tierney for zinchenko much better full back
115 reasons why I hate the Prem Man City has killed the league
Arsenal just need a proper striker and theyll be dangerous.
Arteta is the solution. Not the problem. If you cant see that, you dont know whats going on
Arteta has spent more money than any other manager in Europe over the last 4 years and failed to achieve the expected improvement. Yes progress, but from 8th spot and all that money spent, not good enough. (And I say MANAGER, I know Chelsea as a CLUB have outspent everyone).
We are rebuilding... money has to be spent regardless, just need to sell a few players and buy a center forward and another winger then we are perfect
Well when arsenal have penny pinched for the previous 20 years they are well within their right to spend now, city spent more than arsenal last year and guardiola came into a team that had already been heavily invested in at the start, they are 2 points ahead of them in the league and all is still to play for. Net spend doesn't start 4 years ago just for arteta, it's a cumulative budget which you will find arsenal have spent less money in the premier league era than Tottenham and have a lot more to show for it.
Net spend expected return is relative to the position u are building from.
Use some intelligence. Letâs say Ipswich come up and over the next 5yrs spend 600mil net and outspend most of Europe should they be challenging for the league and European cup. We had to spend that just to close the gap on the top 2 and itâs not like theyâve stood still and havenât been investing themselves.
Tired there on 150000 plus a week if they cannot play a full season with 2\3 games a week they want sacking I smoke every day and at 31 years old if run rings round them all all day every day and I'm not the best football player but this tired shot is no behond a joke now
If you can run rings around them then go and play for a professional team. Don't sit there talking shite.
Arsenal need to get rid of all the dead wood and rebuild
They do every season
italy were attack minded when they won the euro . what the hell are they saying bitter english commentators đą
Perfect đ
Said the same last year like a stuck record
Man City has spent 200M to be eliminated by the worst Real Madrid in the last 10 years. Gone backwards
Have you looked at the league Andy? Have you got it upside down? Timber hasn't played the whole season!!!! Twit.
Just waiting for these muppets to bang on saying Saka is world class in a few months time at the Euros.
i hope saka doesnt start so he doesnt get blamed when england gets eliminated
@@alvine7117 very true
Troy Deeney I've had enough of being a nearly Team đĄ.
Have faith we are "nearly" there đ
Why is Deeney on here ? Come on talk sport you can do better than this . Or are you ticking the boxes againâŠ
If Arsenal had the youth players coming through that UNited do, it would supplement their team nicely
I just get the feeling goldstein forgets how bad man united are. He will be behind all this music etc. Have man united actually improved in the 2 years ETH has been here?? This show is so bad now. Full of biased presenters who can't take there blinkers off.
arsenal was better in that game. what are u taking. it is just football
Buying Havertz for 60mil and making him highest paid player is sackable offense, same with viera 35mil, kiwior for 15mil, 1-2 good seasons zinchenko, ramsdale, jesus 100mil, i miss times when arsenal bought cheap viera, anelka etc. , but we miss kante, tchuamemi, cavaminga
You're comparing Purchase of Viera and Anelka in the late 1990s to 2023?
What are you saying?
money waste, for example arteta bought viera for 30mil, having ESR who got same quality, i just miss times when Arsenal bought young good players becasue great scouting, now real madrid does that, they bought camavinga, tchouameni, valverde, rodrygo young players for good value... havertz is like ozil or aubameyang transfer... he will be at arsenal till his contract expire and noone will pay half of what we paid... same with his wages...
Hurry up and come back bent lol
Arsenal need a bench.
We donât have a strong bench.
perfect?? đđđđđ
good luck in ucl final đđđđđ oopa
Arsenal aren't too far off??? Don't flatter yourself bud. Arsenal are no way near to winning the premier league, let alone the champions league
Literally the margin is 2 points 3 games into the season. Thats close by definition.
@@Adam-ui4ef Have you heard a saying close but no cigar????
Boring comment
@alexjohnson8266 Yeah I hope you go to sleep đŽ đ€ knowing that Arsenal let you down
Arsenil won't be top 4 next season
Heard that after last season too đ
A prediction based off nothing but blind hope.
delusional lol arsenal are top 4 team again
Goldstein is deluded and bitter.
Deeney talks such rubbish
Not as much as you though!
I genuinely hope Ramsdale goes to another club this summer and crushes it, and Raya FACEPLANTS and makes Arteta look like a circus clown đ
OK hater, how's that working out for you?
Raya already has
Lol same old arsenal . BOTTLE RSđđđ
inexperience is the word you are looking for
@alvine7117 Unfortunately, it's not . But thanks
bottle jobs
Salty Chelsea fan shock horror
Donât take it away from them. Let them enjoy. In 1-2 years, they will be an Arsenal or Spurs fan, someone that has potential to finish in CL positions.
We need to stop this "not to far off" "another step to get there" etc. This is Arsenal now. Its either you are there or not.
Has anyone seen Arsenal botđŒ đ§Žđ đ đ đ đ đđđđ¶