Ducati Scrambler 800 vs Triumph Trident 660: Which Should You Buy?
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Agree, very sexy!
The Trident is the practical choice, but the Scrambler screams personality, fun and the versatility to go chuck it around some muddy country lanes. I would love that bike one day.
Better to go for desert sled if that is your plan. Suspension is more harsh than you might think.
@@briansteele2723 from experience i know you can offroad on any bike. You just have to slow down if your on a road bike. But going 20-30kmh offroad is not bad for me at least. Maybe you cant do it as good but its definately possible
seems to me 4000 price difference or am I seeing things wrong?
I have had a Ducati Scrambler since 2015. The suspension is harsh so upgraded that front and rear and after a few more mods its been a brilliant fun bike with no issues at all. I bought a Ninja 650 in 2017 when they first came out with the revised model, did well as a light tourer but the engine just lacked power and got rid of it this year. Now have the Tiger Sport 660 on order which uses the same engine as in the Trident, which I test rode and am happy to say it produces enough power to keep me happy. Already booked ferry to Spain to put it through its paces next June in the awesome mountains of the Pyrenees and Picos de Europa.
It would be great to see the "return match" with the new Scrambler 2023! 😊 Great comparison, by the way!
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What a brilliant comparison.. no unnecessary music .. simple to the point..
It just seems wrong to me to have to pay hundreds of dollars extra just for a different color.
I agree or for a different seat to lower seat height.
If I'm gonna pay that I might as well pay a panelshop mate to do it,in a color I like,metallic and/or pearl,that looks half decent,or get it wrapped,best wishes from., New Zealand.
Interesting comparison .. Thanks .. So much fun to just be out on some country roads .. I guess for my old body and bumpy back roads the Ducati's suspension fits the bill more for what I am doing but I have found the Ducati kind of short and turns in fast . That being said by a happy Street Scrambler owner . I am sure they are both an engaging ride .. All the best from New England .. Guy
Tough choice. Obviously you could mount a case for getting 1 of each. A Desert Sled for weekend camping, getting away. The Trident for week day commuting.
Great to see this comparison. I have a 2019 Scrambler Full Throttle which I love, but I’ve been following the Trident with interest. Not sure I could part with my bike for a Trident though.
Me either, 2020 Icon 800. But I could see keeping the Ducati and buying the Trident as a second bike.
Excellent video as always, especially liked the real world comparison. 👍
Thanks Mihai - appreciate it!
Good comparison on the bikes.
Maybe an air cooled monster like the 797/796/795 is a closer competitor to the trident IMO because it’s slightly better specced than a Scrambler.
This is a tough one, the only thing that would keep me from the Ducati is the belts and replacement cost. The usual bucket and shim configuration is normally good for many miles over the inspection/adjustment interval. But both are superb bikes.
Great review again motobob. Trident everyday of the week for me
In terms of design and general looking of the bike I'd go for the Trident, no doubt. But, and this is a big one, regarding the character I'd probably choose the Scrambler. So it's a very hard choice really. Great comparison by the way!
@MOTOBOB you've got a real, genuine timbre to your voice. Keep up the good work. I know you've just bought a T660... any chance you'll do a track day on it?
Today I've buyed Ducati Scrambler. I can't wait for new bike season to start using my Scrambler :)
Between the two it's an easy pick for me. It's the Triumph Trident. Have been and will always be a Triumph fan. The sound of a triple in my mind can't be beat.
Was really waiting for this one😘❤️...love ur work.
Both seem like great bikes. I just got a 2018 scrambler mach 2.0 and love it.
Just picked up a scrambler - it’s awesome. Needs suspension but otherwise ready to go
Love both bikes! Great comparison.
My dream bike was the Ducati, until i rode it last summer!l Ride a Triumph now, no contest!
What put you off the scrambler?
@@urbanfireblade I test rode the Triumph option, for me, more quality, comfort and low down torque made me grin!! But not everyone is the same so you should try all options
@@rtb8085 At the time, my existing bike was the Benelli Leoncino 500. My thoughts after riding the Ducati left me flat, and being that the cost to upgrade to the Ducati was more than that of the Triumph (for the same year), It was really a very easy decision. Riding the Triumph felt like a major upgrade to the Benelli, unfortunately the Ducati didn't. As I said, everyone is different but after 1 hour test ride on the Ducati, it just didnt compare to the quality, comfort of the Triumph.
@@robbo8099 May I ask which Scrambler you rode? I have a friend in Alaska who got the Desert Sled, and he RAVES about how great it is, and Alaska's not known for their civilized roads. One of the things I find so unique about the Ducati Scrambler is the variance between the models. The Desert Sled is quite a bit more performance-minded for off-roading that the other models are, but I'm contemplating the 1100 Sport since I'm the opposite of tiny.
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies Hi Rodger, I rode the Icon 800 which is much more road focused than the Desert Sled. you need to try a few bikes and decide which suits your requirements best. Best of luck and ride safe!
It’s an amazing comparison! Well done!
Thanks a lot, bought the trident and I couldn't be happier
After RyanF9 last vid on oils/ engine cleanliness I (who currently own the Scrambler) might actually consider the Triumph... when a bike costs this much build quality is a major factor!
I have the 2020 Scrambler Icon 800, but I also love the tech and look of the Trident. I get a lot of attention on the Scrambler though and I love the retro look in yellow. I’ll take both. 😈
Scrambler for me without a single hesitation. Better design, more simple and easy going, unfortunately more pricey but worst the extra,
No mention of the difference in the sounds they make? That seems like a significant factor to me since it contributes so much to the character, but I suppose that is a bit subjective and can be changed around quite a bit depending on what slip-on or full system you install.
Waiting for the gorgeous Benelli Leoncino 800. I"m riding the Leoncino 500 for two years and I love it.
The video is great, I ,luckily, have a scrambler being delivered today. Fun was key for me and when first sitting on one it just felt right. Keep the videos coming!
Have you still got the Scrambler? Thoughts on it?!
Hi. The scrambler didn't last long .. had a series of electrical issues. Was fun while it lasted. Bit jumpy in low gears and slow speed. Great on the move and lots of torque. Gone to a honda as wanted reliability and ended up with a CBR650R.. epic bike and actually starts ans runs lol
I've had a Ducati Scrambler Classic but can't comment on the Trident. Totally different bikes of coarse. The Scrambler is more than capable off road especially with standard low gearing. You need a bash plate for anything a bit more serious to protect your filter. The Ducati feels so small with a low seat height and lite weight it inspires confidence and does incredibly well even off the beaten track. They have put a substantially bigger rear sprocket on the scrambler compared to the Monster. This makes the throttle very sensitive which isn't great off road especially with no ride modes. It cry's out for a smaller sprocket on the rear to heap smooth out the throttle response as well as improving comfort and economy with a lower revving engine at highway speeds. Needs a linked chain for servicing. The Ducati is ultra smooth on the open road and the only sense of vibration is under load when accelerating out of a corner or climbing a hill if you're not in the sweet spot of rpm band. Yes you can put luggage on the Ducati for weekends away-Hepco becker C bow system from Motorcycle adventure products in australia + the soft luggage (street bags).
Have the Ducati and think the comparison is a fair one. Thought about the Trident, but preferred stripped-back (air-cooled) nature of the Scrambler and that V-twin. It's a lovely bike to ride. I think it's great that both bikes are not too tall or heavy, like many bikes these days.
Is the ducati reliable ? Just got a 797 with the same engine so im a little curious about that
@@TungLe-cu2yg Have done about 7300 miles so far with zero issues.
Does the engine really get tio hot on the Scrambler?
Oh thank god for this review. My decision for a city-use street bike which is light in weight, easy to handle and high on performance - is stuck between these two.
same
not sure if the performance will be enough with the scrambler but I like how the scram can put passengers more comfortably on
Ridden full throttle and cafe racer , test rode trident at weekend. All good bikes. Trying nightshift model shortly . Trident is torquey, but think the scrambler has more presence. decision time soon!
Ducati Scrambler more comfortable??? The stock seat is a Spanish pony torture device, the high bars are completely mismatched with the footrest position, the footrests force you into a pigeon toed angle, and the engine heat is like sitting on a barbeque. I own a Ducati Scrambler by the way, and despite its many flaws, I love it. When shopping for a bike I looked long and hard at the Trident, and I probably should have bought that one...
That was SUPER🤔
Im a Triumph fan but I think I prefer the Scrambler in this face-off.
Haing ridden both, its the Triumph all he way.
@@mikehannan8206What makes the Triumph better? Test rode the Scrambler today, not sure about it in the wind 😳
mmm it's been a while, but from memory the Scrambler was a bit gutless despite it's engine size compared to the rather zippy Triumph. The Scrambler sits very low and geometry is not as nimble as the Triumph. The little Triumph just feels planted around corners and is rewarding both in curvy country roads and citty lane filtering. That being said, if I had to do dirt roads then of course it's the Scrambler for the win.
I’ve had a Scrambler for 2’years and live in South of France. I like it but am considering triumphs as i move away from A2. For a new rider the throttle can be snatchy and you end up riding the clutch. The stock tyres may look nice but should be swapped out for better road tyres. Worst point though is the heat that the bike pumps out if driving around in town, it is like sitting on an oven. Looking forward to getting mine de-restricted but will likely upgrade to base Street Triple or Trident. Will test those bikes on a warm day and compare undercarriage cooking qualities
So, did you try those other two bikes? I'm interested in your conclusions.
@MOTOBOB Still waiting for your comments on pillion comfort on the Trident!
One thing that's difficult to measure but super important when choosing a bike is how fun it is to ride. The scrambler has that fun factor in spades. I imagine the Trident does too because they are both in that 80bhp bracket where you can use all of the power all of the time.
Exactly. I rode both yesterday and the beforehand I was pretty sure I would like the trident more. But I fell in love with the scrambler. It’s the most fun bike I have ever tried. Not sure what it is really? It just wants you to play and make you feel comfortable doing so.
Still debating between the Icon, Nightshift or 1100 pro. Price being a major factor but I also buying it to last and not be tired of it. Are you still having fun with your scrambler or feel like jumping to something bigger?
Really looking forward to a moto guzzi v7 850 review when that is even possible. I feel like someone who has owned a street twin like yourself could tell if the new model compares with triumph.
Very good point indeed. I am looking forward for that myself, too! Especially now with the new engine, chassis and suspension the V7 got.
I had both a street twin and a v9 and much prefer the Guzzi. Only bad with the v9 was the ergonomics, this is where the v7 comes in.
Hey I think you should compare the trident with the street triple 675 if possible...
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I used to ride my 1973 Honda 754 cc bike off road.
But i would never think of it as a dirt bike.
I have even jumped hills with it.
It was an amazing bike till my brother stole it, and blew the engine up.
Very nice comparison :)
Scrambler obviously though am biased 😄
Thanks for the Video.
My question is, "what is top speed of Trident? "
Thanks again.
The Trident.... Especially for long term ownership...
Ordered my new Trident yesterday a d pick it up next week.
Nicely handled Bob.
Trident for me all day !!!
Hey man great comparison also where did you get that mirror on scrambler? Been looking for that kind of mirrors for my svartpilen.
Quite different bikes so a difficult one as people would buy for different reason's but certainly if you wanted an all round bike capable of off/on road then definitly the scrambler. The scrambler is very capable off road because of it's low centre of gravity with one cylinder right forward-engine low in frame-low seat height & for an 803cc is probably one of the lightest in it's class & the new icon is even lighter. You do need a bash plate off road & the standard bars are superb off or on road. Scrambler also has a superb side stand if you're off road & you stop on uneven ground as it has a descent angle to it otherwise seat quite low so if camera around your neck you can simply sit astride the bike with 1 foot on the brake if on uneven ground & get that great photo without having to get off the bike. Icon Dark has better suspension-fuel gauge & gear indicator as well as better seat. It's also easy to put a termigoni exhaust on the Ducati & it sounds amazing without being annoying.
Both are very nice bikes. I'd go Triumph 😃
Love the buzzing, but not in yellow
I'd go for the Ducati, it just looks fun.
It is indeed!
Great bikes, but why in the UK is the triumph so expensive when it's made in Thailand? I expect to pay a premium for the ducati as the euro ones were/are made in Italy, but when the other is made in Asia I expect it to be a lot cheaper. I know cars and bikes have components from around the world these days..
I rented a Ducati scrambler last weekend on ride share whilst my triumph is in the shop - more upgrades - and the little moto was a demon!! Super torquey and fun - found it to be super comfortable in the saddle and over all ergonomics and really a blast in the twisties - that said, i agree it’s pretty mechanical, lo tech and kinda twitchy - brakes, gearing, throttle are all rough but all in all, it’s a great little ripper!! I’ll still be happier to get back on my Triumph.
Which one you like the most?
I’ll stick with the Triumph street scrambler - it’s just a little smoother all the way around and the modern classic fits my ideal aesthetic…That said, the Desert Sled is tempting me!!
I hear that engine heat is real bad on the scrambler. I like the scrambler, but I don’t want one if it is going to melt my legs.
Just bought an Icon and I love it
My trident is on order!
Good buy, Tim!
Thanks for This comparison video..🙏🇮🇳
My pleasure mate! :)
I have a scrambler And i love it.
You should compare with the Ducati Cafe Racer instead. Same engine with Scramble, but road only focus. I had been on/off with Scramble for awhile now (before Trident) just because I hate the dash, the rpm is going the wrong way.
It’s hard to get bikes from dealers at the moment as some aren’t operating their demo fleet until covid restrictions lift in mid April. So I’m making do with what I can get hold of, but I definitely want to try out the nightshift soon - think it replaced the cafe racer this year in the scrambler range.
how's the heat on stop and go city traffic?
which extra exhaust (slip on) has got the scrambler? looks quite better than the original, ist it EUR5 homogenized?
How's trident up against cb650r?
Trident for sure, especially in the new orange color coming.
Scrambler all day long, it’s cooler by far, great , fun, and a blast to ride, every garage should have one just for its sheer character, it rides like it’s alive 😀
For reliability I'm going with the Triumph. From what I have seen in my motorcycle social circles, the Ducati spends too much time in the shop.
Tim would probably agree with that so far - don’t think it’s the best on that front. But I had a hoot riding it so I can see why people go for them
@@motobob That is what the Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE is for. 😁👍🏻
Good review! Considering the Ducati for riding a bit on country backroads. Do you agree with comment below that throttle is snatchy? (New rider, A2) Is it cable throttle?
Pretty direct response, yes and it’s cable driven
I will never buy a bike with uneven cylinder amounts.
But the looks of the Triumph has a nice look.
I just don't think i will buy an Italy bike.
I like British and Japan bikes most.
You forgot about the cost of ownership. How do they compare (servicing, mpg, insurance)?
Nice selection of bikes..bus a Very superficial comparison.
_That scrambler in red_ 😍
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does that Scrambler have the raised seat fitted?
SCR is able to attach the bluetooth module too
I was real close to buying the Ducati scrambler until researching the tons of issuses people have with them. Number one heat issuses. I live in South Florida. You don't mention the difference between the trident and scrambler air cooled vs water cooled. Probably does not matter in Europe.
Loads of tech is a detractor for me.
I just want a bike to ride, nothing else
yes
I like tech
tech is good on a 150+ hp bike but sub 100hp bikes honestly dont need tech apart from ABS
@@bazitube390 i agree but envoitamentalists will do anything to make us super safe and release less co2. We all hate it but the government only does what about 5% of people want. After euro 6 is here we can say goodbye to cable throttles. Its sad truth. Luckily bikes are still good but just look at what happened to cars
I liked the royal Enfield INT650 for its simple riding style and cheap price
I love this channel.
Thanks HC!
Nice one but I think you should compare the Ducati with the Street Scrambler, not the Trident,honestly and there the winner is much simpler to find....Ducati😁
Of those two specifically, I’d take a Ducati Scrambler Icon. But if I didn’t have the choice I’d be quite happy to take the Triumph, too.
I like both bikes...but I wonder if I can sit well with 1.89m on these bikes?I must soon test ride both (plus Moto Guzzi V7 850)! I am very happy with my Royal Enfield Conti, but I need a little more power.
I would try the Trident as it is a touch taller, or the Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled?
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There is a stand alone Ducati dealer 40 minutes from me. Service area has more bikes in it then the showroom. Ducati dealers should take a page from Harley and hide the shop behind closed doors without windows. Triumph for me.
Seen quite a few ride the Scrambler very hard offroad.
There's also a good comparison like xsr700
Please if it is possible could you do XSR700 2021 vs Trident660?
I'm looking to step up from an SR400 that I love, but can't keep up with riding mates on bigger bikes and if MT07 vs Trident vs CB650r wasn't hard enough, now the Ducati is in the mix...I mean, it's a fun problem but AAARRRGGHH
The frame is steel not aluminum?
I test rode a Scrambler when it first came out and it had a really uncomfortable seat and the bars were hard to reach when in full lock. Was so disappointed.
There’s a new seat from 2019 onwards and the bike comes with an Allen key in the tool kit to adjust the bars.
A drag race would be nice
Out of two? Trident for sure, i dont want to get headache to regularly service my stoopid valve
It's a 20-30 min job to change the belts
i just bought a trident it is smooth
Thanks MotoBob, another great review. How warm does the air-cooled scrambler get in city traffic on a hot day? Is it too much?
I’ve heard it’s pretty damn bad from other videos but can’t confirm it for myself.
It’s a ducati air cooled. I can confirm its worse than hell if you stuck on traffic.
My scrambler is unbearable hot before the first oil change when I was stuck on city traffic. After the first service things got better, but still hot.
It’s a bit much in traffic on hot days, but I still love it.
Nice video, and I am close to such a dilemma myself. How does each one behaves with a pillion passenger? (I seldom see a review that addresses this subject at any motorcycle)
From the looks of it the Ducati has the better pillion seat, but not tested.
Seat comfy on ducati but my friend’s shoe was nearly burnt off by the terminogni pipes :)
I had a scrambler for a while. I never found it a comfortable bike. The stock seat is terrible! Great engine though.
Was the engine heat a problem for you?
@@morbidrockgod it got hot if you were stuck in traffic but generally it wasn’t an issue. It had great character, but air cooled engines can get warm. Guess it depends on the riding you’ll be doing.
Hi sir thanks for,the review which bike emits more engine heat?
ducati for sure its air cooled
I have always had Honda's. So I want to consider something different, but reliability is still very important to me. Which of these would likely be more reliable?
I don’t have any long term first hand experience of Ducati reliability, but my triumphs (trident, street twin) have been solid
So far, my 2020 Scrambler has been free of problems.
Servicing is also better on the Triumph side. Ducati is (was??)
still fond of the desmodromic valves that when need a change... it eats half a trip on a cruise to Bahamas.
how can the ducati have a weaker engine than a z650?
I want both of them, but i can not afford them. Also different style bikes
Thank you for comparison! For a beginner, wich one do you recomend!
neither
Well to each his own and if you know yourself as a sane beginner, you can go with either.
And as far as the handlebars and seating position in the stock scrambler, it’s definitely a more easier and confidence inspiring motorcycle.
If you can take it slow from day 1, you’ll soon get it right..
Wishing you good luck with your purchase and hope you ride safe always:)
Also, my first bike on which I learned ..(and I’m still learning each day😊) to ride is a 2021 scrambler icon.
@@govindabanerjee I am 43 yo, so i like to think of myself as a mature beginer :)
In the end i’v got a Triumph Street Scrambler wich i love !
Thank you for your reply and ride safe !