New 2021 Yamaha MT-07 vs. Triumph Trident 660: Which Should You Buy?

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2021
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  • @eliotsalandybrown
    @eliotsalandybrown Před 3 lety +572

    I think 14 minutes discussing specifications (which we can all read online) and only 4 on how they feel to ride (which we can't read online) is out of balance.

    • @pranjal70
      @pranjal70 Před 3 lety +21

      True his comparisons are useless

    • @simranghotra3457
      @simranghotra3457 Před 3 lety +26

      Well not like you paid for the content with money…

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 Před 3 lety +40

      He spend his money and his time to make this review, which you can watch totally for free.
      And still you complain ?
      Do it better yourself first

    • @CaptainChristianZ1818
      @CaptainChristianZ1818 Před 3 lety +40

      Constructive criticism is always welcome. That's how reviewers improve. Pay no attention to those who only see the negative side of things.

    • @Omar-kw5ui
      @Omar-kw5ui Před 3 lety +12

      @@simranghotra3457 For content creators, the customers are the viewers. Through viewers you get ad revenue. Doubt you would want as a content creator, for your viewers to start thinking I just wasted 15+ mins of my life. After all, you did pay that amount of time of your life to make room to watch someone right?

  • @dyoung4184
    @dyoung4184 Před 2 lety +21

    Had the MT for 4 years , moved to Trident this March, done 4000 miles . It’s that good.
    Exhaust-
    MT OE pipe is quiet and just purrs. Had a straight through pipe and it was just to loud. OK for short blasts but annoying on long runs. If you don’t set up the fuelling it doesn’t feel so smooth.
    Trident sounds great as OE . From 6000rpm it rasps gloriously. I think an open pipe would be actually too loud and would soon be tiresome.
    MT Suspension - upgraded immediately to Maxton. Soft , wallowing, disconnected OE. Definitely not designed for 90kg rider. Powering out of roundabouts , back end so loose.
    Trident - Showa. This ‘budget’ unit is great and chassis feels solid. Not needing to upgrade , maybe after 20000miles / 3 years. Freshen it up. Rides like it’s on rails, but can be harsh on some of our really shitty pothole roads
    MT - Brakes. Just a bit soft and lacking bite. Upgrade with better pads and lines.ABS cuts in too quick on the rear and when on heavy engine braking.
    Trident- Solid feel, braided lines. ABS really smooth and doesn’t cut in on downshifts. Slipper clutch is great.
    Quickshifter on Trident is a must . Brilliant on downshifts. 2 to 6 upshifts from higher revs the better. Absolutely brilliant fun. Holding the throttle wide open and flicking up the gears , it’s infectious and really brings out the exhaust note. Note : Turning of the TC makes the process wild. It will lift.
    Rider Modes. They work well. Rain is good, TC does make a positive difference. Watch out if you change settings within the modes, you can accidentally set rain settings into the road mode. Then wonder why you have slow throttle and TC comes on everywhere 🤣 Remember to reset to factory.
    Overall I like the style, engine and brand. Fixtures, fittings and finish is top quality.
    Safe ride.

  • @nikola8646
    @nikola8646 Před 3 lety +19

    I’ve owned 2014 MT-07 for few years , excellent bike to commute every day , and I did 1400 miles road trip had lots of fun with that bike , with little bit tune up you will love the bike even more

  • @mikethebikemt07tracer
    @mikethebikemt07tracer Před 2 lety +67

    I have done a lot of touring on my MT07 with the furthest being Croatia and Slovenia from North Devon. It is a great country lane Sunday ride bike as well. I regularly get 80+ MPG if I stay within the speed limits. I think it was a mega good deal at £6300 in May 2017. 18,000 enjoyable miles.

    • @monkeydust100
      @monkeydust100 Před rokem

      80 mpg damn thats good, ive been looking at getting a new bike mine does less than 40 mpg.

    • @mikethebikemt07tracer
      @mikethebikemt07tracer Před rokem

      @@monkeydust100 Hi there, I have got 88mpg by riding really carefully on "A" roads but it's normally just over the 80mpg. I have just traded the bike in (possibly a mistake) for a Tracer 700 and am only getting 72mpg on the first tank full. Should get better. I love that engine so got the same again. Mike.

    • @Gggggggg618
      @Gggggggg618 Před rokem

      @@mikethebikemt07tracer hi mate same here had xsr700 then traded for tracer 7 love that engine more than enough for me

    • @ANDY1985UK2011
      @ANDY1985UK2011 Před rokem

      @@Gggggggg618 someone just broke my steering lock on my MT 07 and it's now a write off so i'm now looking for something else. How do the XSR and tracer ride i also love the engine .

  • @RichDunn
    @RichDunn Před 2 lety +59

    I like the CP2 and Yamaha build a nice reliable bike. But I'd go for the Triumph personally, because aside from preferring its looks and triple feel/sound. It also has traction control, a slipper-clutch, rider modes, and 10k service intervals; which are a lot of key advantages, for very little extra money.

    • @supertony4708
      @supertony4708 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I really don’t know why people keep think that the MT-7 is more powerful and faster than the Trident. I own 2 bikes, and I can be sure with you there is NO WAY a MT-07 could beat the Trident.
      The power of the Trident is super smooth and absolutely feels like a liter bike while the MT-07 may be just a small cc bike feeling.

    • @KK-lg8uz
      @KK-lg8uz Před 8 měsíci

      Im jumping from scooters to a big bike and want to decide between the two. Its for city riding. Im 189cm tall if that makes a difference. Any advice, which one is better?@@supertony4708

  • @jayc7556
    @jayc7556 Před 2 lety +2

    It was a wonderful experience watching this video. This is the most honest comparison ever. Way to go Bob! Cheers!

  • @marcusgeorge1825
    @marcusgeorge1825 Před 3 lety +5

    Great, honest and humble review Bob. Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺

  • @stanleyknife1967
    @stanleyknife1967 Před 3 lety +18

    Only rode the Trident recently and overall I liked it. I agree with you about the brakes - they do the job, but I would have liked a bit more power. The initial throttle opening is a bit soft for me (I know this bike is aimed at riders who probably haven't been riding as long as I have), but once above 4000 rpm, it was fantastic. Sounds brilliant too. The MT-07 feels agricultural in comparison, especially at low revs, but like the Trident, sounds brilliant on full chat. As you eluded to, it will probably come down to looks and price - personally I like both and the price of the Trident is pretty competitive, if a tad more than the Yamaha. Great video as usual Bob, keep up the great work.

  • @philipdhiatt
    @philipdhiatt Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for the review, you did an excellent job. I own a 2021 MT-07, same model and color you tested; I changed the exhaust, air filter, and flashed the ECU; now it's like riding a totally different bike, super fun.

  • @spacetraveler3286
    @spacetraveler3286 Před 2 lety +49

    I test rode both. I brought the triumph. The Yamaha was good but I felt like I was riding a plastic toy. The triumph was just so solid and felt cool.

    • @YZKMNY
      @YZKMNY Před 2 lety +4

      have you tried the yamaha xsr700? its basically the same bike but retro styled.

  • @pistolpete6321
    @pistolpete6321 Před 3 lety +4

    Can’t go wrong with either bike! Great video!

  • @JohnReedHammond
    @JohnReedHammond Před 2 lety +5

    The new (since the early 2000s) Triumphs are incredibly reliable. Absolutely equal to any other manufacturer, but truly badass bikes in style and performance

  • @ChinoZ32
    @ChinoZ32 Před rokem +3

    I bought an MT-07, just two months shy of ownership with just under 2,000km travelled. I love this machine. I installed my own custom touches including a full akra titanium with db killer removed, and oh boy, I will be keeping this bike for many years to come. Once I get my full license, I will have this bike derestricted and from what I've heard, this thing becomes a brand new bike after that. Zero regrets, so thankful for this beautiful machinery.

    • @tonykivanc
      @tonykivanc Před rokem +1

      just got one from 2017 and im loving it, but i will go for a mt-09 next season tho

  • @Steve-motorcycles
    @Steve-motorcycles Před 3 lety +25

    Yamaha MT07 if riding a bike is suppose to be fun, then Yamaha wins. Reliability the Yamaha wins. Design and rider modes, the Trident wins
    The Trident looks are more comparable to the XSR700 Both are great for the money.

    • @shishirgollapudi8172
      @shishirgollapudi8172 Před 3 lety +5

      Triumph are know for their reliability too

    • @taylerellis378
      @taylerellis378 Před 3 lety +4

      @@shishirgollapudi8172 not like yamaha

    • @shishirgollapudi8172
      @shishirgollapudi8172 Před 3 lety

      @@taylerellis378 I am pretty sure you are not gonna use the same bike more than 10 years

    • @michaelhayward7572
      @michaelhayward7572 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shishirgollapudi8172 why?
      My Triumph i bought new 42 years ago.
      My 32 Y/O Moto Guzzi i have owned 22 years.
      My two 37 Y/O Yamaha 250 trials bikes i have owned nearly 10 years.
      I regret selling nearly every bike i sold.

    • @shishirgollapudi8172
      @shishirgollapudi8172 Před 3 lety +1

      @@michaelhayward7572 good for you brother but I am just telling that most bikes are usually owned for Max of 6 to 7 years now a days by many bikers he was saying that they were much reliable so I ment, ok if you're gonna use it for longer time then it's your choice Cheers

  • @ZX6R_Drummer
    @ZX6R_Drummer Před 2 lety +15

    I feel like the XSR-700 is the more comparable bike to the Trident given the body styling similarities, but besides the body it's the same bike as the MT, soooo... im splitting hairs with that lol. Great review man, im loving your videos. And I love your triumph. The more I see it the more I kinda want to get one.

  • @franmarch
    @franmarch Před 3 lety +4

    I have a Yamaha XSR 700 which is the cafe version of the MT 07. It is a great bike! I am extremely satisfied with it.

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 Před 3 lety +16

    That triple sounds awesome! Go Triumph 👍

  • @steve6429
    @steve6429 Před 2 lety

    Ridiculously informative and succinct review!

  • @boris2997
    @boris2997 Před 2 lety +10

    I sold my Ducati Monster 796 and bought a MT07 and I Love it 😀 . What a joy to ride, and the best part is which nobody ever talks about is how easy it is to maintain and dependability over European bikes.

  • @TheEmperor9985
    @TheEmperor9985 Před 3 lety +7

    I'm a simple man, when I see freshly uploaded Trident content, I hit that like button.

  • @mylifeinthailand8751
    @mylifeinthailand8751 Před 2 lety +7

    I live in Thailand and I’ve seen a lot of different bike reviews, the Brit reviewers tend to say great for commuting but here every bike can be used for touring. I have a Thai friend who has a Ninja 650 with top box and panniers fitted, he changed the windscreen and took the clip-one off the fitted a Z650 bar

    • @adisakapichai5512
      @adisakapichai5512 Před rokem

      hi i am Thai and agree with this comments too. every thai biker use the bike for touring.

  • @westoncraig
    @westoncraig Před 2 lety +3

    its a good video, specifically for someone like me looking to get back into Bikes after 7-8 years off. The MT07 would be a preferred choice for commuting and the occiasional bit of fun, with so many sold i would hope more choice in the used market too

  • @robbikebob
    @robbikebob Před 3 lety +21

    Speaking personally, I really don't like the looks of the MT, and it's not because of the modern looks, I've no problem with that, it's because of the awkward way the hoses, pipes and frame meets in the middle of the bike. It looks a mess. That's one of the best things about the new R7. The fairing hides it all!

    • @brandonmcdaniel4216
      @brandonmcdaniel4216 Před 3 lety +5

      It's incredible that Yamaha took an already ugly bike and somehow made it even worse.

    • @Tevon93
      @Tevon93 Před 3 lety

      Completely agree

  • @BlokartAustralia
    @BlokartAustralia Před 2 lety +2

    I bought the Triumph and love the bike. It is comfortable to ride however I have only completed 500 Plus kms so far however looking forward to doing many more. I got the screen, the bluetooth and quick shift option and although have not downloaded the App as yet, I think once I spend some time using it, I feel that on the long rides, it will be a good option to have and use.

  • @Brian-tb1zs
    @Brian-tb1zs Před 3 lety +5

    I like the sound if the triple. I have a Bonneville twin, the triple would be much different to own

  • @kakkacarmenelectra7229
    @kakkacarmenelectra7229 Před 2 lety +25

    Love triumph, but the 07 just sounds so phenomenal with an aftermarket exhaust.
    Had the 07, swapped for a street triple and miss that CP sound so much

    • @alanbell2156
      @alanbell2156 Před 2 lety +3

      You can't be serious. The MT-07 sounds pathetic with a loud exhaust. It's a puny parallel twin. Time you got on something with serious power and seeb what it feels like.

    • @theotter6279
      @theotter6279 Před 2 lety +5

      @@alanbell2156 it’s not just a ”puny parallel twin” it’s a 270˚ twin with the sam firing pattern and sound of a 90˚ V2. Plus the engine and cylinders are bigger on the MT than the trident.

  • @njminer
    @njminer Před 3 lety +4

    Great contrast and compare review. Ever since I had a Speed Triple I've loved the triple but now I think Yami's twin is the best for suburban riding.

  • @charbelnoun8210
    @charbelnoun8210 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the lovely and professional review the mt is my dream bike

  • @PerWiklund234
    @PerWiklund234 Před 3 lety +5

    MT07 sounds better but trident looks better in my opinion.

  • @branco6942
    @branco6942 Před 3 lety +35

    The reliable Yamaha all day long!!!!

    • @ANDY1985UK2011
      @ANDY1985UK2011 Před 2 lety +2

      good bike but its far from reliable

    • @branco6942
      @branco6942 Před 2 lety +6

      @@ANDY1985UK2011 Yamaha MT 07 is by far the best fun bike of the last decade and reliable very reliable!!

    • @drrider100
      @drrider100 Před 2 lety

      Cp2s are one of the most reliable engines of all time.

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Před 2 lety +6

    Tough choice but triumph triple for me. Love the underbelly exhaust.

  • @ewganhoff
    @ewganhoff Před 3 lety +5

    Bike Magazine just did a comparison with these 2 plus the Tuono 660. With price brought in to the equation they chose the MT as winner. They said while the Trident has slightly higher hp on paper, on the road there was nothing in it. They say the found the MT a bit more fun in both the engine and handling departments.

    • @Kkkk-ll3ed
      @Kkkk-ll3ed Před rokem

      The mt is literally the worst here, aside having a torquey engine it sucks

  • @RafaelEKH
    @RafaelEKH Před 3 lety +27

    I waited 2 months for the mt-07 and after I found the trident I canceled the yamaha. I only had it for 3 days but it's really good., I love it. I'm glad they couldn't deliver it in time tbh.

  • @neoglow6
    @neoglow6 Před 3 lety +21

    The MT is a WKD drinking hooligan. The Trident is a whiskey drinking gentleman. Both like to have some fun but in their own way.

  • @salvatoredigrigoli3210

    Another Awesome Video 👍Thanks Brother 😁

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 Před 3 lety +12

    Both great bikes. I’d take the Triumph 👍

  • @bryanl.7128
    @bryanl.7128 Před 3 lety +154

    I chose my MT07 for a major reason: reliability.

    • @pvt.paula4423
      @pvt.paula4423 Před 3 lety +21

      And price stability is also a good point I think :)

    • @bryanl.7128
      @bryanl.7128 Před 3 lety +5

      @@pvt.paula4423 Couldn't agree more. :)

    • @mionggg
      @mionggg Před 3 lety +8

      Are triumphs known to be less reliable?

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 Před 3 lety +6

      @@bryanl.7128 In 2015.
      This says absolutely nothing about YOUR bike vs this New Triumph.

    • @bryanl.7128
      @bryanl.7128 Před 3 lety +27

      @@ekimandersom4478 If you are trying to argue with me about Yamaha's reliability being higher than Triumphs, go right ahead. I am sure Triumph improved their reliability over the years, you think Yamaha STOPPED improving theirs after 2015?

  • @unmovabletanker
    @unmovabletanker Před 3 lety +18

    Considered both but I went with the trident. Love it so far!

    • @pawelantoniuk4542
      @pawelantoniuk4542 Před 3 lety +2

      Same. I’m glad I decided to go with the trident.

    • @Balunliinfi
      @Balunliinfi Před 2 lety +3

      I think trident is more friendly and more forgiving which is a good thing.

    • @Adam-mo2qw
      @Adam-mo2qw Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sold on the look. Just seems a bit boring... id rather go for a T120.

  • @MultiMazzin
    @MultiMazzin Před 3 lety +1

    Source for intro music? Nice vid-good comparison

  • @thevoyager4087
    @thevoyager4087 Před 2 lety +2

    Clear, unbiased and direct to the point review ❤👌

  • @yreyesq
    @yreyesq Před 3 lety +42

    I like more the sound of the MT 07.

  • @brymanable
    @brymanable Před 3 lety +1

    Like the MT07 look luv how the Exhaust tip is more under the bike , I prefer a shroud over the Dash for glair & wind 👍

  • @jimdownhill131
    @jimdownhill131 Před 2 lety +1

    Wanted the Trident but was sold out at every dealer I searched. Went with the MT-07 and very happy with it. Only complaint is front shocks and gear shifter is clunky other then that its a great bike.

    • @ribalderr6052
      @ribalderr6052 Před 2 lety

      LOLOL, so., theyre like cookies.. they dont have the fudge stripes, Ok, I'll get the plain shortbread cookies lol.

  • @toluwole
    @toluwole Před 2 lety +3

    I have heard great things about the mt-07. However, I have always wanted a naked Triumph triple but at a lower price point, and looks and sounds better to me.

  • @iandeasy9631
    @iandeasy9631 Před 2 lety +2

    I really like the look of the Trident and the appeal of the triple and the electronics. I enjoyed this video. I've currently got an ER6N, I know you used to have one. How does the Trident compare? Is it much of a step on from the ER6N? Thanks

    • @motobob
      @motobob  Před 2 lety

      It’s not night and day like a Harley vs a Panigale, but the trident is a little more refined and quicker. Handles better too

  • @marceld.5061
    @marceld.5061 Před 3 lety +3

    Absolutely my mt07- I love it

  • @averagefz0749
    @averagefz0749 Před 3 lety +8

    I love my fz07 but i've ridden a few triumphs now and they're soooo smooth which is what i like about them. Idk if i could switch tho the sound and the aggressiveness of the fz07 is so much fun.

  • @PhilipBallGarry
    @PhilipBallGarry Před 3 lety +7

    The Triumph looks great apart from the "Euro-style" rear numberplate and indicator hanger. There are quite a few new bikes (including Benelli) which have taken on this method of mounting these items. That said, like most things it'll probably grow on us over time?

    • @DarrinSK
      @DarrinSK Před 25 dny

      Why don't you like the license plate holder? I think it looks way better then the bulbous abominations hanging out the back of Japanese bikes

  • @bfarm44
    @bfarm44 Před 2 lety +2

    It’s like being forced to choose between two lovers. Rode the Triumph the one I took out was buzzy in the handlebars to the point of annoyance and while I didn’t care for that at all it’s easily cured. I am a huge fan of the Yamaha series in the MT line though and I have no shortage of dealerships for either one. It’s a hard call I’d be more than happy with either of them. Really need to get a hood ride in on the MT07

    • @moneeb343
      @moneeb343 Před rokem +1

      How do you cure the buzzy handlebars?

  • @astrostrotch
    @astrostrotch Před 2 lety +3

    Torque comparison at 3500 rpm tells the story. That's why everyone loves the MT-07.

  • @2WheelWeekendViking
    @2WheelWeekendViking Před 3 lety +10

    Triumph. No question. Hands down. 🙌🏻😎

  • @CriticalRider
    @CriticalRider Před 3 lety +15

    I think the price point is super important at this market segment and Yamaha knows that well. Triumph will be able to carve their niche for less cash-strapped buyers, but that will be a small amount. If Yamaha would update the XSR 700 to compete on the "less modern" looks area, they could really give Triumph a run for their money also in the looks department. I've seen the MT-07 in person and it's much better looking than videos and photos. The viewing angle is very different and makes a big impact on the image. The MT-07 loses on the way it looks in pictures, but prudent buyers would go out and see (if not test) both and would be able to realize that. All in all I think the Yamaha has the edge, and I own both brands so no preference from me for either.

    • @ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018
      @ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 Před 2 lety +2

      All mt series bikes look so much better in real life. The headlights looked disgusting in pictures but in person holy shit they're fire

    • @10daysAgo
      @10daysAgo Před 2 lety

      @@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 I agree whole heartedly ❤️😀

  • @Dius765RS
    @Dius765RS Před 3 lety +15

    Aprilia Tuono 660 would like to see a back to back with all 3 bikes.

    • @glaviationcph
      @glaviationcph Před 3 lety +19

      The aprilia is way more expensive and better in every way. So why compare it to bikes that are not in the same price class?

    • @bikerbeliever8169
      @bikerbeliever8169 Před 3 lety

      Aprilia is way too high price not close

    • @tubejorrit
      @tubejorrit Před 3 lety +5

      the aprilia is in the price range of the Street 765 and duke 870

    • @glaviationcph
      @glaviationcph Před 3 lety

      @@tubejorrit Yes. Also the z900, mt-09 and the mt-09 sp. The aprilia is just too expensive compared to what you can get for that kind of money. Just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

    • @TeoSluga
      @TeoSluga Před 3 lety

      I don't like the new Yamaha front mask. Uhhh, 😩

  • @gurveervirdee2899
    @gurveervirdee2899 Před 3 lety +13

    Are we just going to ignore the Evo 6 that crossed by?

  • @rakeshbabu9884
    @rakeshbabu9884 Před 3 lety +3

    Triumph is a premium brand in every South Asian/African/South American/developing markets & Yamaha is a well established brand with local assembly lines, manufacturing plants, better dealerships, better availability of spare parts & lesser premiums in these same countries. Yeah, Trident may be d better bike, but it can't beat Yamaha outside Britain or other developed markets !

  • @Doofenshmirtz1088
    @Doofenshmirtz1088 Před 2 lety

    I always skip exhaust parts because an aftermarket is always a must for Trident and it makes all the difference

  • @mt09madness
    @mt09madness Před 3 lety +8

    The 07 with a pipe sounds amazing!

    • @diegocalabretta2387
      @diegocalabretta2387 Před 3 lety

      the trident just sounds better

    • @mt09madness
      @mt09madness Před 3 lety +7

      @@diegocalabretta2387 Disagree. Triples only sound good when you really open them up. The 7 sounds good all the time.

    • @diegocalabretta2387
      @diegocalabretta2387 Před 3 lety

      @@mt09madness if u change the exhaust the mt 07 is aggressive and nothing more, i like the sound of the 3 cylinders because is a music for ears. I guess it depends on taste🤷🏻‍♂️😁

    • @mt09madness
      @mt09madness Před 3 lety +5

      @@diegocalabretta2387 Well I own a triple and I still prefer the 07 sound aey.

    • @saucebuttahs774
      @saucebuttahs774 Před 3 lety

      my 07 with its M4 exhaust is very very mean

  • @ilhamsabirin4673
    @ilhamsabirin4673 Před 3 lety

    Nice video... Let just say that in some areas the price of the latest version is few hundred more than the older version.. is it worth it to spend the extra dollar?

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Před 3 lety +1

    Some people just want reliable transportation at a cheap price to go from point A to B. Some people want something that is exciting, pulls on their heart strings. and look forward to a new adventure everyday. Maybe take the long way to work. Take one last longer look as you walk away excitement.

  • @BerserkerRider94
    @BerserkerRider94 Před 3 lety

    I've got to ride the rident this year gotta say it's not bad and I liked it more than the MT-07 suspension alone was comfortable for the street.

  • @axelotl86
    @axelotl86 Před 2 lety +10

    I would like a 765 Trident with some higher specs in general. Love the look.

    • @Adam-mo2qw
      @Adam-mo2qw Před 2 lety

      Lol so a street triple then?

    • @axelotl86
      @axelotl86 Před 2 lety

      @@Adam-mo2qw nah, I like the more „retro“ look of the trident. This single headlight is sexy. Funnily I bought a speed Triple RD in the meantime. The 765 is awesome though. Had one in the past.

    • @Adam-mo2qw
      @Adam-mo2qw Před 2 lety

      @@axelotl86 what about a T120 black then? Decent power from the 1200cc

    • @Adam-mo2qw
      @Adam-mo2qw Před 2 lety

      @@axelotl86 I'm seriously thinking about a royal enfield meteor. 20 bhp but it looks so comfortable.

    • @axelotl86
      @axelotl86 Před 2 lety

      @@Adam-mo2qw as someone who rode a 125cc Honda Rebel (similar ergonomic but much less power)for many many years, I can understand you thought. If I hadn’t the problem of space for more bikes, the meteor or Classic 350 would be in my top 5 as second bike.

  • @Romanetics
    @Romanetics Před 3 lety +1

    I very like the look of the close-up shots. Which camera do you guys use? And which camera lens? Thank you very much.

    • @motobob
      @motobob  Před 3 lety +1

      Sony A7III with the Sony 35mm F1.8 for most shots.

    • @Romanetics
      @Romanetics Před 3 lety

      @@motobob Thank you very much for the fast response. I already have the camera, but only the default lens kit. I think I need to invest some money to get this very good looking depth of field.
      Love your videos, always very high quality👌

  • @danielsmt0766
    @danielsmt0766 Před 3 lety

    I have the same color year and i added the yoshimura exhaust and sound great

  • @1ridgy
    @1ridgy Před 3 lety +5

    Both good solid bikes in there way but the Trident is more accomplished in my mind, on refinement and tech alone. Just got my custom seat from CM seats Uk for my Trident and looks fantastic. No more numb bum from the stock seat. Also for Information to other trident owners Hepco and Becker Germany do luggage and racks, both rear and panniers. Also MRA Germany do a screen so the Trident is more than capable of touring. I’ve not long returned from my Scotland tour (NC500) and covered 1150 miles with a Oxford dry bag strapped to the rear. No problem at all.

  • @Sunrazor
    @Sunrazor Před 3 lety +2

    I would choose the Yamaha simply because it's more reliable. Not only statistically but they offer a far longer warranty at least here (5 years, Triumph only 2).

  • @alanbell2156
    @alanbell2156 Před 2 lety +11

    The Triumph is light years ahead of the MT-07 in every possible way. And I will say I've never been a fan of Triumphs though we have had two of them in the family. My partner has the Trident 660.
    So, my reasoning: I've ridden both bikes and although the MT-07 is a good example of what it is it's also built down to a price: Dated clocks, really cheap switchgear and on overall air of cheapness.
    That doesn't necessarily make it a bad bike it just is what it is.
    The Trident though exudes quality. The smooth three cylinder engine, Triumph fit and finish, quality components, superb handling. Triumph have scored a winner with this bike.
    Put it another way, if it had a 1000cc engine and 120bhp I'd have one in my garage tomorrow.
    The Trident is in an altogether different league from the Yamaha.

  • @lildurian
    @lildurian Před 2 lety +1

    My 2 cents on my MT I had been commuting on for 18 months, it is a do everything bike but I don't love it.
    Its strength is its own weakness. It is foolproof motoring because everything is built down to a price and cheaply and easily replacible. I had to replace bolts and screws because of rust but a set of them fron ebay cost $15.
    The bike has a split personality. Below 30-40% throttle it is a docile thing. It is lightweight and easy to move around busy traffic. Keep the rev in the upper half and it is an animal. Ride this way you would easily lose your license.
    One test that the MT fail is the carpark test. When you see your bike in a carpark do you think it is a stunning machine? I don't. I would love to replace it with 2 bikes instead... if the mrs allow.

  • @thingsido6067
    @thingsido6067 Před 2 lety +3

    I like the looks of the Mt07 so much, but the front suspension isn't that good I heard here and there, also like the sound of it especially with the Acro on it. Think I have to ride both to decide which one it's going to be next year. thanks for the vid

    • @WTFrides
      @WTFrides Před rokem +1

      Suspension works can always be fixed.

    • @thingsido6067
      @thingsido6067 Před rokem

      @@WTFrides true! I went for the Tracer7, lovely beginner machine, sweet low end torque and very nice sound even on stock exhaust. Suspension on the 2022 models isn't that bad after all.

    • @Kkkk-ll3ed
      @Kkkk-ll3ed Před rokem

      @@WTFrides that forks still sucks no matter how you audjust them

  • @rahulsawant8369
    @rahulsawant8369 Před 3 lety

    Well talking about Exhaust i would prefer Trident over MT-07, though i like to pick MT-07 as a Choice. 😁

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik6047 Před 3 lety +3

    Nice work, as always, Mr. Moto Robert! I have not rode the Yammy and I use to think it was ugly until I saw one at a dealer. I went to the dealer to buy a new helmet prior to picking up my Trident. I saw the Yammy and I must admit that I really think it is cool looking. I could definitely get use to the looks but I hear it can be a tad "edgy" to ride. My Trident just turned 500 miles so still in ride in mode. Looking forward to the 600 mile service so I can give her the beans! A lot to like about the Trident foooo shoooo.

    • @motobob
      @motobob  Před 3 lety +2

      Oh yeah that 600 miles service feels good. If you like the trident already, you’ll love it after that! Would still be my pick over the MT

  • @chickumathew382
    @chickumathew382 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi bro, the video is very interesting and useful..I am looking for a motorcycle which is yamaha xsr700(almost same like mt07) am triumph trident. I just want to know the maintenance cost in future for both machines, which one is more reliable and cheap. And also worried about the bikes height for me. I am just 5.4 feet. Is it suitable for me??
    If you get time do reply, appreciate it.
    Thank you

  • @jackgirote9132
    @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety +2

    everyone complains about the triumphs throttle. I own the trident. I don't notice it. I think its really meant to keep it from jerking when your traveling in lower speed traffic.

    • @motobob
      @motobob  Před 3 lety

      Agreed - if you give it plenty of gas it livens up, but it's much more manageable than most other bikes around town. Perhaps adding a sport riding mode with a livelier throttle map would have kept some people happy? But then you're starting to make it as functional as the Street Triple R...

    • @jackgirote9132
      @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety

      @@motobob It would have made some people more happy but, those people should buy a more performance geared bike. This is the entry level bike for triumph, they want people to upgrade. They probably kept the trident a little more tame to usher people towards the street triple as you mentioned. Anyway, I am very happy with the Trident. Value for the money, I am overall satisfied except for a few cheaper looking parts. Aftermarket will fix that right up though.

  • @junioraokimt9813
    @junioraokimt9813 Před 2 lety +2

    MT 07 reason = emotion with adventure

  • @Juanxxi1109
    @Juanxxi1109 Před 3 lety +1

    Motobob, what's that little GPS on your handlebar? On the left side of the mt07 with the little triangle.

  • @justincork3838
    @justincork3838 Před 3 lety +1

    I like the trident but not the rear number plate placement.

  • @wayside_gardener
    @wayside_gardener Před 3 lety +3

    Although it doesn't come as standard, Triumph London lowered my Trident by remoulding the seat and fitting a lowering kit.

    • @motobob
      @motobob  Před 3 lety +1

      Those guys are awesome! Where did they get the lowering kit?

    • @jonathanng138
      @jonathanng138 Před 2 lety

      @@motobob at Sawcon

  • @uwaipa8163
    @uwaipa8163 Před 2 lety

    I like MT07, love tank design and facia ...

  • @omegabiker
    @omegabiker Před 2 lety +2

    I want the mt07 for the sheer noise, absolute killer sound but they look a bit small on me, shame.

  • @AdityaDevSultan
    @AdityaDevSultan Před 3 lety

    Can you do a review of ducati desert sled 2021. Thanks

  • @geokrpan7527
    @geokrpan7527 Před 3 lety

    Looking at the tank designs, it looks like a cafe bar like the Rizoma Race Retro, or even clip ons would work on the Triumph but not the Yamaha.

  • @G.W._Cook
    @G.W._Cook Před 3 lety +19

    For having ridden both extensively, I see a much starker contrast between the two, it could be down to where I live being mostly mountain roads (French Alps).
    But to me, the MT has a pretty bad chassis, that doesn't inspire confidence, the braking (on the 2020) was significantly worse on the MT. I'm not a heavy rider (under 75kg equipped/165lbs), but the MT gets willowy very easily. And despite its softer suspension, it's less comfortable on most roads, than the Trident.
    And speaking of comfort, the seat on the MT is pretty bad too, after an hour of riding, I'm in pain, whereas I can last two hours on the Trident before I feel any form of discomfort. On the other hand, the knees are more bent on the Trident, controls feel a bit higher, which does become a problem after 4 hours straight (yeah I know it's dumb to ride that long). The Trident requires a slightly taller rider on stock seat than the MT does.
    The Trident also feels much more nimble on twisty roads, brakes give a lot of confidence, and the engine feels as torquey as the CP2, but it revs much higher and sings much better on stock pipes.
    In terms of fuel economy, it's dead even, I've been just under 4L/100km on both and near 6/100km on both, though because the Trident is smoother at very low revs, I tend to be lower overall in daily riding.
    Two things I'd like to mention about the Trident: the fly screen does help, and traction control does trigger quite often on strong hairpin exists (probably because it would lift the front wheel on acceleration alone in 2nd gear)
    In conclusion, I'd say that if you live in a very flat area with nice roads, gentle corners or do a lot of city riding, the MT is absolutely fine. But if you want to ride aggressively, have a lot of tight corners, mountain roads, the Trident is way better there. Both would benefit from after market exhausts though, and only the MT has real options right now (at least for street legal stuff).

    • @ktkace
      @ktkace Před 3 lety

      The fork on the Mt is practically merde ... And Google Yamaha performance damper, the chassis is intentionally designed to be literally a mishmash of steel pipes unless tuned... By a performance damper.

    • @pranjal70
      @pranjal70 Před 3 lety +6

      You sir, have given a way more informative comparison than this motobob did in 18 wasted minutes. Thank you. Stay safe

  • @krantig9777
    @krantig9777 Před 3 lety +6

    Love from India 💖

  • @richardrich5731
    @richardrich5731 Před 2 lety

    luggage is now available for the Triumph - Hepco and Becker have a good range.

  • @isaiahfurrow7414
    @isaiahfurrow7414 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the new Yammie motor, and would love an XSR700 or R7, or both....
    Between the 2 in this video, the Triumph wins.... the MT bikes just look like 2 wheeled space bikes to me. That Triumph looks SWEET for a modern naked bike. May have to see if there's a dealer near me anywhere.

  • @MrSang-py3dd
    @MrSang-py3dd Před 3 lety +4

    I like the Trident honestly and I think it's the better bike overall, but real life constraints such as cost of ownership and maintenance makes me lean towards MT-07. With how this pandemic wreaked havoc to everyone's pocket, practicality supercedes everything else.

    • @CAMS5642
      @CAMS5642 Před 2 lety +1

      Maintenance should be cheaper on the triumph, 10,000 miles service intervals vs 10,000 km on the yamaha

    • @qx4n9e1xp
      @qx4n9e1xp Před 5 měsíci

      You'll spend tons of $$$ in mods to improve the Yamaha, which is a value brand at the end of the day.
      The more premium brands like Triumph, KTM, BMW etc are usually ready out of the box, needing little change.

  • @EhdrianEh
    @EhdrianEh Před 3 lety +1

    I have a 2021 XSR700 - no regrets. My other choice was the Trident. The reasons I didn't get it: 1. First year out. Next year's model will be better after consumer feedback. New engine. 2. No after market 3. made for street only 4. hard to convert to a dirt hooligan/scrambler after warranty ends. Worse low RPM power. 4. Triumph brand tax 5. Pillion is slightly smaller 6. Bike is slightly smaller and would not fit 100% since I'm 6'1" (185.5cm). I hope this helps other tall folks who want a reliable, mod-able ride that can do a little more than just city commutes and an absolute BLAST to ride..

    • @shahfacekillah
      @shahfacekillah Před 3 lety

      I'm 6'2" and I find the Trident very comfortable ergonomically.
      I agree with your other points. The lack of aftermarket is annoying.
      The only other bike I wanted was the XSR900 but 1. I'm not sure I need that much power and 2. I couldn't find a black one for the life of me. I checked fb marketplace, kijiji and auto trade everyday for months. Nothing.

  • @xxPWCxVIDSxx
    @xxPWCxVIDSxx Před rokem

    Used to do motocross now getting my first road bike, trying to decide between these two and a duke 790

  • @ociofe1
    @ociofe1 Před 2 lety +1

    Triumph all life long. Yamaha looks like a Transformers that just took a beating.

  • @velagapudipraveen155
    @velagapudipraveen155 Před rokem

    How is the visibility of the Speedo cluster on the MT07 bike. Does not the helmet block the view?

  • @Snafu2346
    @Snafu2346 Před 2 lety +1

    I know the bike is still pretty new but how are Triumph's in comparison of ownership maintenance? I really like the look at style of the 660. But I want something low maintenance and reliable. Not something with ..... awkward nannies. I've been interested in bikes from MT-07/09/10, CB1000 650/1000, XSR 700/900, Z650/900. This 660 looks appealing as well

  • @paulconnell1309
    @paulconnell1309 Před 3 lety

    Nice review, thanks. So which is more composed and more fun on the twisties!

  • @mark675
    @mark675 Před 2 lety +3

    The triumph looks so much classier and more expensive

  • @ianyang6520
    @ianyang6520 Před 2 lety

    14:05 What is that small round thing by the mirror on the left side of the handlebar? (MT-07)

  • @coolkatz9012
    @coolkatz9012 Před 2 lety

    The dash on the Trident looks like a after thought

  • @wl660
    @wl660 Před 3 lety +2

    The Tech options on the Trident were the main reasons I chose it…Quickshifter, TFT, Bluetooth, TC…plus my research indicated rust a repeat MT issue on the swing arm. I like the modern styling of the MT, but the ride by wire, smoothness, and large torque range of the Trident made my mind up.

    • @nigelfisher3756
      @nigelfisher3756 Před 3 lety +3

      Yep, gotta agree with those opinions of yours, but.....on the negative side, I just can’t say the Trident is a better ride. Also the looks of the Trident does not my boat float. But if one had to chose one over the other, I’d agree with your sentiments.

  • @duanestiles4821
    @duanestiles4821 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You live in a Mecca of motorcycle you’re a very lucky person great vid

  • @we88yz
    @we88yz Před rokem

    How Does the Trident Compare to the Ducati Scrambler I think it would be interesting as it's in the same ballpark

  • @pyciar
    @pyciar Před 3 lety +1

    13:40 what is that round thing on steering wheel? Kind of navi interface? First time i see.

  • @weemt07biker74
    @weemt07biker74 Před 2 lety +1

    Love my wee mt07, uncomplicated fun.

  • @tonydavis5053
    @tonydavis5053 Před 2 lety

    Will this category cruise comfortably at 80 to 100 mph?