10MM vs. 357 SIG (Part 2) (7075 T6 Aluminum)
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Penetration test between the 10mm, and the 357 SIG
Shooting through 6"x6" plates of 7075 T6 Aluminum.
Firearms used: Glock 20 Gen 4 with 4.6" barrel, and
M&P 357 Fullsize with 4.25" barrel.
Ammo used:
Sig Sauer Elite Performance 10MM 180gr FMJ
Sig Sauer Elite Performance 357 SIG 125gr FMJ. - Sport
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.357 SIG gives the best bang for the buck. And it’s available in almost every 40 cal gun with just a 357 conversion barrel.
From .40 to .357 Sig, I prefer using Sig and Glock OEM barrels. More trustworthy.
@@jaytay7989 I agree
Really limited to Glock guns for conversion. .357 sig barrels are impossible to find. 😊
EDC is a SIG P-229 in .357SIG. I hear what the 9mm fans say however it's hard to turn your nose up to a 125 grain JHP (Underwood) coming out at nearly 1500 FPS.
This is true. Thanks for watching.
@Rat Tail haha. This is also true.
There's no replacement for displacement. 10mm was chosen by law enforcement and navy seals for a reason.
@@JohnJohnson-bg2oo And abandoned by them also for a reason. Heavier and more cumbersome to carry and massive recoil making follow up shots very difficult.
@@wnchstrman ask any seal what weapon they prefer, then get back to me on that. The fact is that the federal government has been complying with NATO since the 70's in caliber selection of soldiers, slowly incorporating the 9mm and 7.62×51 NATO rounds, and phasing out the. 45, and 30-06. Far superior in knockdown power, then the. 40 Smith and Wesson, and 10mm were presented and absolutely loved by law enforcement officers and special forces, but because the United states is weak on NATO negotiations, has complied with converting to 9mm and. 308 calibers, the 9mm being less deadly per round, and more readily available for the enemies if a United states soldier is killed in battle, and vice versa.
.357 sig is such amazing round
@@cynicaloptimistic1259 - I'm a let you finish but 9x25 Dillon is best
@@cynicaloptimistic1259 imma let you finish, but my edc ccw of 10inch revolver 500 sw is a great round.. sure 1 shot 3 dead.
Cynical Optimistic it doesn't come close to the 357 sig !!!!! Ballistics prove it !!!!!
Imma let you finish but .50BMG is a far superior round
@@harisyoung4110 one shot 3 dead? 1 shot 3 dead you go to jail
Thanks for another 357 Sig video love it especially with the 10mm. It is impressive that 357 Sig was able to almost duplicate 10mm results with less FPS ft ibs and have a shorter barrel. I would love to see this test again or something similar with Underwood ammo in even hollow points and extreme penetrator. That Underwood makes Sig ammo look weak in comparison
coolvideo28 s&w has extreme penetrators in the mag at the beginning
1:28 look at the ammo on the box and the first round in the mag
Danny Avant he said at the end of the video maybe he could revisit this with some Underwood extreme penetrators I would like to see it so that’s why I put that in there.
Danny Avant I do see that but pretty sure he just used the Sig ammo he showed us the box’s of in this test
Could be and I only speak for what I see in the video which was a good one btw but the mag for the 10mm had standard fmj the s&w did not he may have switched them before shooting but I wouldn’t have them preloaded personally
that was amazing that you come to a content my favorite caliber 357 sig against this larger caliber the 10mm and don't let me down the 357 Sig that's why i love it
Dude Its a 1mm difference. The ".357" sig Is really a 9mm bullet In a necked down .40 S&W casing.
357 sig is the best carry round for a semi auto ever made.. Its just amazing all around
We need more tests. These were great. Thanks
I know. I'm planning on getting some more tests done soon. Thanks for watching.
The two best autoloading pistol rounds period
I’m reading a lot of your comments and I’m noticing everybody would love to see the 357 sig. go head to head with the 10 mm using Underwood extreme penetration ammunition.
I have various ammo orders in with Underwood Ammo. The 10mm would be one of them. So that test is surely in the works. Thanks for watching.
It looked like the 10mm dumped more energy into pannel #2? There is 100 something more ft lbs to go somewhere..I do love how flat the 357sig shoots even at great distance. And it breaks the sound barrier,a bad guy would think someone had him pinned down by a riffle🤣🍻
Um, most bullets break the sound barrier.
@@jamessparks5966 45 ACP is one of the few rounds that doesn't with standard loads.
@@Catgat37 yeah, that’s why he said *most*
Excellent Video. I have both and love them both (Glock 22 -Police Trade in- w/ 5" barrel conversion to .357 sig) and 1911 Springfield TRP 10mm 6" Barrel. I use the .357 Glock for woods protection (Mountain Lions, Bears) and the 10mm for Pistol Hunting.
I'm sure the 5" barrel gets some nice velocity from the 357 Sig. Thanks for watching.
Great video brother. Thank you for your work.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! 👍🏻
I would choose the 357 Sig over the 10mm for this particular application - penetration of hard targets.
A few important points that need to be understood;
First point:
Power Factor is the ballistic equivalent measurement of momentum, which is a measure of RECOIL. Momentum = mass * velocity.
(By the way, energy = mass * velocity * velocity. So energy = momentum * velocity. But you need to get the units correct to calculate it.)
Power Facter (call it PF) is equal to (1/1000) * (bullet grain) * (muzzle velocity). Therefore, for the ammo in this test, we find;
10mm PF = (1/1000) * (180gr) * (1250fps) = 225
357 Sig PF = (1/1000) * (125gr) * (1356fps) = 169.5
So the 10mm PF was 55.5 MORE than the 357 Sig PF (because 225 - 169.5 = 55.5)
That means the 10mm PF was 32.7% HIGHER than the 357 PF (because 55.5/169.5 = 32.7%)
That means, all else being equal, the 10mm would give a recoil that is "about" 32.7% higher than the 357 Sig.
Recoil means a lot. This video doesn't discuss that point.
Second point:
In addition, realize that the 357 Sig bullet has a .355 diameter, while the 10mm has a .40 diameter.
So, just imagine the wind resistance facing the bullet. That is a function of the total surface area (among other things) of the bullet. As an analogy, imagine the wind resistance faced by an 18 wheeler vs a passenger car.
Looking at the base of the bullet as a circle, and using the area of a circle, Area = Pi * R * R, we can see that;
(R is the Radius of the bullet, Pi is 3.14159, and A is the area of base of the bullet.)
The base area of the 10mm bullet is 3.14159 * .2 * .2 = .126; (Remember that the bullet diameter is .40, which means that the Radius is .20)
The base area of the 357 Sig bullet is 3.14159 * .1775 * .1775 = .099; (Remember that the bullet diameter is .355, which means that the Radius is .1775)
This means that the 10mm bullet has a surface area that is .027 greater than the surface area of the 357 Sig (because .126 - .099 = .027)
This means that the 10mm bullet has a surface area that is 27.2% HIGHER than the surface area of the 357 Sig (because .027/.099 = 27.2%)
This means that the 10mm bullet (18 wheeler) is fighting much more wind resistance than the 357 Sig (passenger car). Good thing it has a greater mass - because it NEEDS it.
Finally, because the 10mm surface area is larger, the terminal force will be spread upon the metal target over a surface area that is 27.2% larger than the 357 Sig. So we would expect to see that the 10mm would deform the first plate to a higher degree than the 357 Sig, therefore expending a larger percentage of its impact energy on deformation instead of penetration. And that's what the video shows us. The net effect is that the 357 Sig is MORE EFFICIENT at penetration of hard targets, spending less energy on deformation, and more energy on penetration, even though it uses 19% less muzzle energy (118 ft lbs / 624 ft lbs = 19%)!
Third point:
Sustained velocity at distance.
The 10mm starts with 624 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle, but as per the second point above, it has a 27.2% larger surface area, and loses much of that energy fighting the wind resistance all the way to the target.
The 357 Sig starts with 506 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle, but expends less energy fighting wind resistance than the 10mm does.
How much energy is expended fighting wind? A lot. Ballistic physics tells us that force increases with the square of the exposed surface area. This means that the 10mm will require approximately 61.8% MORE force (1.272 * 1.272 = 61.8%) to fight the wind than the 357 Sig will require (a gross estimate that ignores FMJ bullet aerodynamics). So it's a good thing that the 10mm is a 180gr, while the 357 Sig is only 125gr, because the 10mm NEEDS that extra force in order to fight the wind. In other words, you'll find that the ballistic coefficient (BC) of the 357 Sig is higher than the 10mm in this particular example.
Because of the previous two points, and because the 357 Sig provides us with a higher muzzle velocity, we'd expect that the 357 Sig will give us a flatter trajectory, and will show better retention of that velocity at distance, as compared with the 10mm. That means greater terminal velocity, greater ability to retain energy, and better aim.
The video doesn't address these important points. Try this test again with thinner aluminum sheets (1/16") at 100 feet, and you'll see the 357 Sig outperform the 10mm. This is just a guess on the distance and metallic thickness, but the point is that the video test was at too short a distance and too thick a material to really separate the performance of these two rounds for penetration testing.
I watched your 9vs357vs40vs45 and then did a little research and looked up 10vs357 and im so glad you had a follow up video exactly what i was looking for! #SUBSCRIBED
Outstanding comparison review my brother,keep the excellent videos coming bro peaceluv
I just seen a video that was made a few days ago with a Glock 32 underwood 65 grain Xtreme defender chronograph of 2197 FPS and muzzle energy of 698 lbs!!!! That’s insane. The Chanell is “Alaskan ballistics”.
Also the 10mm has a much larger bullet with slower velocity. Use the Underwood 165 grain fmj if you gonna use fmj. It's almost close to velocity at 1400 fps as the 357 but is still more grains. That would be more even comparison. 👍👍
Absolutely as I saw a video in the past where a guy shot through bullet proof glass with a Glock 20 gen 4 10mm. with buffalo bore extreme penetrator.
I would agree with that
Very interesting results.. thank you
I love both these calibers and 7.62x25
.357sig might be the best auto loader round
Less recoil. Smaller frame handguns. Same capacity. Whats not to like? Thanks for watching.
Agree. Love my Gen4 G32.
Nothing wrong with 9mm (quality ammo), but it comes up short against these two. 357Sig is 9mm wearing big boy pants.
9 mm is the same to a 38 spl no to larger caliber like 357 Sig cause is the same to compare a 32 auto or 380 auto to a 9mm or a 9mm to the 38 super
@@cynicaloptimistic1259 😄
I love when he said I give it to the 10mm. People just can't say that the 357sig has the same ballistic as the 10mm lol
Well yah! The ammo boxes indicate 120 ft lbs more energy with the 10mm.
“People just can’t say that the 357 sig has the same ballistic as the 10mm”. Yea I found the butthurt 357 sig fanboy. The 10mm is a much more powerful round than the 357 sig. In this video the 10mm did more damage and penetrated more than the 357 sig. and left a more noticeable mark on the 4th panel. Your fanboy opinions don’t mean anything when the facts are in the video.
@@latinprince896 check and make sure your TV screen is clear or your phone screen may need cleaning. Because I don't know what the hell you was looking at. Even the guy in the video said it was the same.
@@dolemite93 go get your eyes checked buddy, the damage differences are clear as day. You may want to consider going to the eye doctor and go get some glasses. Or replace whatever you were using to watch this video because the damage that the 10mm left on the 4th panel was a big difference from what the 357 sig left. Also when the 10mm almost punched through the 3rd panel you can also see a more obvious difference from how far back the tear was raised. He even said near the end of the video “and as you can see on panel #4, there isn’t a great deal of damage but it did leave a little mark” there was no equal penetration here. Take a look at the different kinds of tears that were left in the metal and the craters on the 4th. That is if you were able to get glasses or a new device to watch this on.
@@latinprince896 lol lol. You're mad because you walking around with a thick large space gun, thinking you are shooting a magnum round. And the little 357sig can produce equal damage. Man stop believing that bear killing bullshit. 🤣🤣🤣😫🤣
Converted my M&P 40 cal to 357 sig. My favorite firearm.
I enjoy your videos....and thanks for doing these tests.
I would like to see these penetration tests done using defensive/carry type ammo instead of ball/range ammo. That would be great !
I already have the Glock 31 .357sig. I was planning on Getting the G40, but I think I will hold after seeing this. Nice video
Good shooting!
Good test! Remember, bigger isn’t always better (10 mm vs. 9mm in 357 sig). Both calibers have good long range performance also but I suspect I can reload 357 sig for less $ and shoot more than the 10. If you only shoot factory ammo, take your pick - they both work just not many gun choices either way. Thanks for the info!
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1/4" sheets of polycarbonate/lexan might be interesting for a part 3. Similar to your 9 vs 40 vs 357 SIG vs 45 video.
Enjoyed your video. Would love to see it with Underwood, Extreme Penetrators or even with their standard FMJ loads. The 357Sig ammo off the shelves is tamed down from the what the round was designed for anyways. Keep up the good videos!
Thanks for watching, and taking the time to comment!
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Glad to see this is not the same penetration channel I watched on pay preview when I was younger
Great video! It looks like the aluminum plates distorted enough to force them into the next plate as the round lost power. It would be interesting to see this same test with the plates separated a little further and see if the rounds go deeper.
Many thanks and great work...
I will revisit this test with some better penetrating ammo. Maybe I will make the panels 2" apart, rather than 1". Thanks for watching.
Very similar results. The 40 S&W also did similar to the 10mm in another metal plate test, but the 10mm expanded further. All three are good rounds but the 40 is my choice for PC ammo swith SD hollow points. Remember, you are responsible legally and financially for every round you fire. It could cost you in many ways if over penetration causes damage or injury to another inocent person.
Thanks... One recommendation would be to clamp your text aluminum to the bench so it can't move...letting it move diminishes the penetration...
17 years of 357sig and I am still content
EDC a Glock 32 for 10 years. 357 Sig is the best self defense around IMHO.
MANNN TRYING TO BUY A GLOCK 32 TOO HARD TO FIND BUT I GOT ME GLOCK 31 JUST NEED A 32 FOR EDC TOO NICE 👍
JONATHAN JIG 23's are easy to find. Get one and get a Glock 32 barrel. It's a drop in swap out, easy enough.
amen i also carry the g32 with a kkm match barrel and external compensator....its amazing
And just think, 357sig is notoriously underloaded by just about every manufacturer. Id love to see the same test with Buffalo bore ammo as they are one of two that actually load it to where its was originally intended.
True. The ammo manufacturers do the same to the 10mm.
Its amazing how they can water down the loads and still sell them for top dollar. Thanks for watching.
Great video thank you for the time and effort. Are you able to redo your 357 sig. vs 10mm Using Underwood ammunition extreme penetrator ammunition? Also you may want to test it against stacked plywood. Again thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos.
Other handgun rounds, in the T6 aluminum, would be nice to see.👍
In the end most the bullets are the same thing. You can get 10mm loads that copy .40 in weight/velocity, or copy a .357 Sig load. And you can find .357 Sig that hits like a standard 9mm. But 100% we need more guns in both calibers though.
I feel the .357 sig is an excellent firearm considering the grain difference , velocity, and muzzle FPS comparisons.
IMHO you’re not losing anything with a .357 sig by not having a 10 mm.
Some would asked why? Well. I have both the Beretta APX .40 & the Glock 31 .357 sig.
Though the 10 mm has been equated to the .41 series type ability and testing I still feel the .357 sig is the most versatile of them all.
What irks the hell out of me is finding ammo with higher grain but that doesn’t always mean better.
Some of the best ammo that isn’t either always available or isn’t as popular is Underwood, Blazer, and American. They both produce quality products that will produce far better pen with the .357 sig as this 7075 plate test at 1/8” thickness just proved.
I seriously thought about buying the G20 but with the capabilities of the G31 and having a .40 I’m definitely not missing anything.
The 10 mm is a nice solid piece, but for me...
( just saying), I don’t feel that I’m missing out.
I don’t live where huge bears might try me for dinner but gators are a plenty.
As for test go. I believe defense abilities are seasonal like hunting, and with newer capable clothing materials winter penetration test are really where it’s at. Considering layers, tumbling, distance, firearm performances in acclimate weather... etc.
My opinion isn’t meant to start an aggravated debate.. it’s just me.
Good demo / test though. Enjoyed and thanks.
Can you do 454 casull and 45 colt +p?
This same test with underwood ammo would be interesting
That .357 sig is an awesome round!! Cost for these rounds takes the fun of owning these heavy hitting caliber, people purchase these guns and end up paying $120 in ammo just to go to the range
Don't know where you buy your ammo, but I don't have much trouble finding .357 practice ammo for about 40 cents a round. That's not 9mm or .22 LR cheap, but it's really not bad.
@@SynchronizorVideos At .40p/r that’s $20 for a box of 50, I normally pay around $26 for a box of 50 .357mag and the same with .357sig... I normally take 3 weapons and push 75-100 through each. I did find some 9mm yesterday for $12 box of 50 and $14 for 40sw box of 50... they sold out in 1 hour 22 Minutes
@@wemcal Another thing that helps is conversion barrels. I have a 9mm conversion barrel for my Glock 31. Drop in the barrel, switch to Glock 17 mags, and the gun runs fine without having to change anything else. Helps keep the cost of high-volume shooting/training down.
@@SynchronizorVideos yeah... three of my 40s I have .357sigs barrels also
Awesome penetration test video,357 Sig and 10 mm are very similar in penetration . you should try 7.62×25 tokarev .
tokarev all day
Yeah I also wanna see the tokarev round compared Such a badass round.
NEVER CARED ABOUT the .357 Sig, but after what my main man, Jack Wilson, did I'm so getting either a Glock 31 or a 226 or 229.
Those are both great round and I'd like to own a .357 Sig one day. But I am getting a 10 mm before that. I need serious protection where I live and being disabled with bad heart and spine I need good energy foot pounds. I have a .40 S&W HK and a .45 ACP Sig I think a good 10 mm is next!
You can get some really nasty rounds for that .40 S&W.
You could always convert the .40 to a 357 SIG by simply swapping the barrel. Thank you for watching, and dropping a comment.
Even for an HK?
hkparts.net/product/barrel-usp-40-to-357-sig-caliber-conversion-p17746.htm
Yes. You can easily convert most guns. And use your standard .40 mags.
What kind of 10 mm are you thinking of getting? And whats the primary use going to be? There are alot of good ones out there now.
1911 10 mm
Sig p220 10mm
Ruger GP100 10 mm (i love the idea of this cause you should be able to shoot .40's through it as well)
Springfield XD 10mm
Glock 10mm
EAA Witness
Just a few of the many options.
buy a tank and live in it. its much safer
Underwood loads these how they should be, that would be a cool comparison
Since most people only have one aluminum plate in their t-shirt I’m good with my Glock 23 .40 EDC.
They're both powerful rounds, the 357 Sig was developed to be an auto match for the 357 magnum which really does give the 10MM a challenge/defeat Esp the Buffalo Bore 357 Magnum Heavy 180 grain Outdoorsman (almost 1500 fps at the muzzle - 4 inch barrel). There are a few videos here on YT where 357 Magnum beat the 10MM in penetration. Either is very capable as a self defense round but in Grizzly country the 10MM is going to be the better choice with 220 grain hard casts. Good review. If you can afford $ both 👍 if you can only afford 1 go 10MM is my opinion.
Definitely feel more confidant with my 357sig. 10mil is a bit much.
I'm not surprised. The 10mm is a heavier round, but .357 Sig moves faster. I have been thinking about getting the Glock 20.
.357 sig is my favouritest caliber
Use the Underwood 155 grain FMJ for the 10mm and see how that Sig 125 grain does against a closer grain weight 10mm bullet.
Part three, two by fours but use Winchester white box for both guns. Do a chronograph on both. Please and thank you ✌
Here's what you do. Test both loads with heavy for caliber ++++PPP+++++ or whatever the hottest is for each is. That will show what the "most powerfull" round is. Not necessarily the "best" because best depends on it's intended use.
I am impressed with .357 sig, the other video with 40, 9, 45, and 357 sig, made me a believer that the .357 sig could handle pretty much anything one might need it for. Possibly even the bigger bears?
Might want to go a bit bigger for bears, just to have that extra energy. .357 SIG could work, folks have stopped bears with less, but they're big critters and a little extra oomph is nice to have. Capacity is also not much of an issue in that application, so you can go bigger without worrying about that downside.
The .357 SIG is outstanding for social work, as that was its original intent. LE folks have also had great things to say about it for smaller animals, like feral dogs. Good capacity, energy, penetration, and a flat shooter; all while fitting into a standard-frame semi-auto and having pretty controllable recoil.
shot placement is what really matters if you can get decent penetration with 357 sig. the 10 mm is no 45-70 so the "bigger bullet" isn't going to matter more than shot placement when comparing 357 sig vs 10 mm. Also with 357 you have higher capacity, flatter trajectory to get your shot placements in.
How about doing a 357 sig vs 10 mm with Underwood 125 / 180 ?
Underwood for sure. 👍🏻 Thank you for sharing. Side note. The .357 Sig shot was crappy. 😆
To be fair, I was shooting from about 20-25 yards at a 6" target. That is some really hard aluminum, and I didn't want anything flying back at me. Thanks for watching.
@@ThePenetrationChannel Just having fun. Great job. Love the content. 👍🏻👍🏻. What state are you in?
Nobody even mentioned the feed reliability advantage of the 357 Sig. There are no failures to feed when you are shoving a .355 inch bullet into a 43 caliber chamber.
Nice!!!
I think if the .357Sig shot would have hit the alum plate somewhere in the middle instead of the lower right quadrant; we would have seen a greater penetration due to buccal hardness of sheet metal increasing towards the margins/corners. I'd love to see another one of these tests with better marksmanship involved to see if I'm right.
Mitch Slotnick I agree, this guy shoots like a 6 year old girl. No, I take that back. My daughter was winning compititions at that age !!!
357sig would make a good bear stopper
I think that both rounds are moving the target because its not secure, that may be causing it to push instead of penetrate?
About the same penetration, both have the same Sectional Density of 0.15 (Function of Weight and Diameter).
10mm for the win! 😎
Put a bigger dent in the 4rth plate, but still, .357 sig is right up there with it. Damn near a draw. Only thing ill give the 10mm is its a bigger projectile. Then again.... I can get underwood or double tap and get 10mm ballistics out of .40.
357Franknitty Underwood 65 grain , would have did the job!
Revisit the test with Winchester white box
The 10mm also has ft lbs over the 357 sign,try full power 10mm loads from Buffalo Bore,same with 9,40,45
Glock 20 10 is for bears and moose in Alaska. I’d use my 9mm canik or fn tactical 509 or g2c 9m for protection from humans. I have a G 42 380 upgraded from 6 round to 10
Nothing wrong with a 9mm. I carry one daily. Thanks for watching.
Would be nice to see the 10mm with velocities is is designed for that ammo is at 40 +p loads
It seems that both rounds are capable of doing a lot of damage. I would be willing to carry either one in the woods.
Do the underwood fmj they have similar energy
Love me my 357Sig FNS-40 with a EFK conv bbl ..
Rich Ki. I have the same setup and absolutely love it
@@nunyobusiness5371 , yeah, it's a good combo, that 357Sig has some serious punch behind it ...
I have the FNX .40 with the 357 Sig EFK conversion barrel and a Glock 23 with a Lone Wolf 357 Sig barrel.
Try Buffalo solid lead projectiles for large game hunting. You'll get better results!
Should definitely get some serious penetration with those. Thanks for watching!
Yup. U know what you’re talking about.
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Thanks for watching!
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Part three two by fours
Great idea. Thanks for watching!
It might have made it through if the plates were farther apart. My theory is of the last plate wasn’t there it should have made it through judging off from that dent. Totally could be wrong though.
Looks as though either round could protect you from three 1/8” panels of 7076 AL
I like the video I own 357 Ruger revolver I will get a 357 Sig .
You could have shout the panels with 9mm124fmj and 45180 fmj to show that the 357sig am 10mm
Good job
10mm makes a bigger hole but is fat handgun also !
CAN I GET YOO TO DO A VIDEO ON .357 S&W REVOLVER 158 GR. TEST? 🤔🤔
Try using cheap ammo like Winchester white box for each pistol. That's usually what people get anyway
Sig Sawyer.
5.7x28 next
Longer barrel on the Glock. 357 in my opinion is the winner
Please test 9mm and 7.62x25 Tokarev on these Aluminium Plates.
10mm all day!
Try a different ammo, Sig only?
I still want to see this test with 124 grain fort scott 10mm or even Lehigh extreme defense 115gr 10mm. 1600 fps and higher. Not just this test but any barrier tests, that compare .357 sig to 10mm. The bullet weight is always so different. It's not really a fair comparison.
I agree and was just going to comment to that effect. I know he's going for common ammo and I get it. But Underwood 135 grain 10mm vs Underwood 124 grain .357 SIG would be a better direct comparison of bullet weight. That 135 grain 10mm is screaming out there!
@@sirdanoman absolutely and the even lighter 100 and 115 grain xtreme defense projectiles as well as fort Scott 124 grain in 10mm defeat IIIA soft and hard body armor.
9x25mm Dillon was before 357Sig
I would like to see the underwood vs Underwood not Underwood vs fmj
When ever my family we go hiking and camping in Wyoming. I always carry my glock 32C .357sig loaded with 140gr FMJ incase of bear. My younger brother carry his glock 20SF 10mm. We don't bring any rifle/shotgun on the trip because their to big. We carry 2 handgun mostly with 2 or 3 Extra magazine each only.
Both of those are extremely capable rounds. Look into the Extreme penetrators for the 357 Sig. They can definitely reach the vitals.
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I wish they would take a 10mm and neck it down to .357 sig magnum. It would likely beat out the. 357 mag and might beat the 10mm. A 150gr and 180gr bullet would be a good bullet and if you were going to use it in a compact using a 9mm 115gr bullet would probably be smoking fast out of a 5 inch and out of a compact 3 inch it would still likely be super sonic.
They do it's called the 9x23. And supposed to really haul ass
10mm is superior...you could have used a bullet weight in the 10mm that is closer to the Sig round ..
I think I will try the underwood Extreme Penetrators next. the 10MM has a 140gr bullet, and the 357 SIG has a 115gr bullet. Thanks for watching, and for the comment.
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That would be a 135gr. Which is just a shorter bullet with a nasty tendency to pancake on barriers. I personally prefer to use sectional density (SD) when comparing dissimilar bullet diameters. In that regard, a 165gr 10mm with a .147 would work since the 357 SIG's 125gr SD is .142.
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I would use the 10mm 165 grain fmj from Underwood. It can still be compared to the 357 sig round you used in this video. its still more grains then the 357 but its got higher velocity. It may be around 45 fps more then 357 but its still a larger bullet so mass would almost make up the difference. That way you can still compare the most common round "FMJ" there is for purchase for both handguns.
should use non lead its holds together better.
357 sig is no punk. High velocity and packs a big punch
Maybe if you hit the plate a little more center with the .357 Sig, the trajectory "may" have gone a little deeper? Maybe punch through that 3rd plate. I'm shocked with the 10mm but the Underwood they stock has some seriously hot rounds. The 140gr Extreme Penetrator rounds are bad ass, for some test Ammo at 1,500 fps
What's the song at the end? It sounds pretty good!
Thanks for watching. The song at the end is called "The Darkness Manifest". It's my own original recording.
@@ThePenetrationChannel oh wow, that's awesome! Sounds great 😁👍🏽
Just try going to your local "store" and find target ammo in this caliber. Sure you can spend $60 for 20 rounds of hollow points. But just try and find a box of 50 or 100 rounds of .357 target ammo at your local Bass Pro or Academy store. You won't find it. You have to roll the dice online in order to find it. Good luck.
Aren't the twist rates different? Glock at just under 10:1 and S&W at 16:1?
The twist rate for each round is different.
Love my 10mm. Don’t see a reason for 357 SIG. That said, will I be buying a Glock 32? Yes. Yes I will
Well played sir.
10mm is still better in my opinion because of the muzzle energy