Silent Hill Mythology - The Multiple Dimension Theory
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Here are my responses to two common criticisms expressed toward this video.
#1: "Why are you applying Jung's theories when the game developers don't reference him?"
Hiroyuki Owaku, the main story designer for the original Silent Hill games, has said that he has taken inspiration from psychoanalytic theories, specifically Freud's (CITATION: Book of Lost Memories, Page 77). Seeing that Jung was a student of Freud, and expanded upon Freud's theories greatly, I have a hard time believing that Owaku only gave his sole attention to Freud, especially since other aspects of the game draw upon so many other sources. For instance, the mythology in Silent Hill draws heavily from Christian, Jewish, Egyptian and Aztec religious tradition. Given the fact that Jung actually took religion seriously in his work - whereas Freud considered religion to be a human creation used to stave off death anxiety - and the fact that Jung's theories seem to apply themselves so well to Silent Hill, I can't simply rely on Freud.
#2: "Vincent was just joking around with Heather when he said 'They look like monsters to you'".
Silent Hill's monsters and environments change appearance based on the person perceiving them.
- "[Valtiel's] form is also seen differently depending on the person." (CITATION: Book of Lost Memories, Page 110)
- Hiroyuki Owaku suggests that maybe the monsters don't look like monsters to everybody, or change form depending on who is perceiving them (CITATION: Book of Lost Memories, Page 102)
Max Derrat Good work Max. Reward yourself.
Strange that the first thing that comes to my mind when talking about silent hill is the dreamlands from Lovecraft mythos, since it technically is both things (another dimemsion/world that humans can access through dreams), but i rarely see people pointing it out. Anyway the video is good regardless, nice work
You should check out "The Grate Debate: The Story of P.T." video, the concept of Silent Hills strikes right into the point of your theory
Dude you keep taking old religion and holy trinty to wierd fucked up nazi japanese shinto devil magic bullshit knock it off
Its just a video game you nut and you shouldnt worship the sudeo science
I've always felt the creators cleverly summed up the entire plot of SH2 in the first few seconds of the game given the opening scene is literally James looking at his reflection
Well, he is actually looking at player
@@gibrman477 That's not actually the case. One of the devs that worked on the game said he isn't looking at the player even if it seems that way.
He has amnesia, he doesn't recognize himself in the mirror.
Dude. Just over the last few days, I've been looking at silent hill history and philosophy videos. I have wondered what my silent hill monsters would look like. And here you're telling me about synchronicity. Dude.
Ayy-Mayy-Zo Superwoah in all actuality you would never know, cause the monsters are created by the subconscious. Also it be based on what your brain wants to hide, that's why James thought his wife died naturally and not by his hands. When in reality the opposite happen, so for you to know you would have to dig deep into your psyche. Which you can't fully do.
Ozzie Edwards Not without lucid dreaming and the splintering of one’s own mine. Although dangerous in terms of one’s mental state, should the splintered fragments of the mind “heal”, the you who controls the body could reach out to the others, the sleeping ones, to seek out that for which is once thought unreachable, like a backdoor.
For me, mine would be based upon the various semi-repressed memories of the severe bullying and even the two times I was sexually assaulted. Although my mind had tried to repress such to protect me, I sought it out. Damaging yes, but I became stronger through remembering.
@@okayand1508 what you mean is actually the Unconscious. The subconscious is sort of an archive that stores your not so oftenly used memories, like when you listen to a song and remember your childhood.
Now the unconscious is the abyss, the darkness where our primal instincts reside. We must bring these shadows/demons to the light (consciousness) to become free of them. Once you discover a demon's name, he loses its power over you.
@@okayand1508 Which is why it was really stupid to recycle pyramid head for Homecoming because of his popularity.
I’ve already had a good ole chat with my monster it’s a shame he won’t take me sooner :(
I walked.
I could do nothing but walk.
And then I saw me walking in front of myself.
But, it wasn't really me.
Watch out.
The gap in the door... is a separate reality.
The only me is me.
Are you sure the only you is you?
Where is this from?
@@abubakr4401 P.T. demo, quote from talking bag
The fuck? Using "you" 3 times in a sentence? That's crazy, almost like saying "you" 5 times in a sentence.
@@cycleoffire2220 talking bag-> best bag
I can't help but think when people talk about the way Silent Hill behaves and how people are "unaware" that they're dreaming, they forget about those who ARE aware of their dreams.
Would they hold a stronger influence over SH? There's also the fact that Silent Hill practically demands the "victims" to have darkness in their hearts. There is nothing but evil found in SH, as characters like Laura are completely unaffected, since she's just an ordinary child (unlike Alessa).
In a sense SH is purgatory. A place to face your misdeeds and atone before final judgement is cast. It simply gives you what you ask for. For those who live lives without remorse or reproach it is just another place to live. But to those who have sins weighing down on them or issues they need to work through...it is quite different.
Laura isn't unaffected. She sees the town as empty because she fears loneliness more than monsters.
Wasn't harry practically a saint? And i don't feel is the case with Heather either. I think is just how silent hill behaves. It can potentially reflect the mind of one, but i don't remember anything about this behaviour in harry, then with heather is just her origins,.
I find that Silent Hill has influenced a lot of psychological video games, namely The Evil Within, as it takes psychology and brain science literally and in extremes.
The evil within was trash, imo, cashing in on the 'idea' of horror. With no real value
@@DirectorHMAN I beg to differ
@@DirectorHMAN calling something "trash" without real arguments/explanations is the real prime example of "trash."
The silent hill series is weird for me because the games whenever I play them.. aren't very scary. At least silent hill 2 isn't scary.. like at all. Silent hill 3 is a different story however, it can make me uncomfortable, tense, and it's gotten some genuine scares outta me. Anyways it's a weird series because silent hill games themselves aren't scary while you're playing them, but they are scary when you're not playing them. The implication of these stories, the idea of silent hill, how occult knowledge often links back to these games perfectly.. that's the scary part. The thought of a place where your unconscious mind/subconscious can actively affect the world around you is kind of insane. The idea that we already have access to the metaphysical world and that not everything can be explained rationally. That's perhaps what scares me the most, now when some weird stuff happens I hesitate to call it coincidence or blame it on something else, mostly because of what I've learned and how much sense it makes.
@@crozraven it's a mix of The Last of Us and a cheap version of Silent Hill style, with a bit of Resident Evil revelations. All of these elements don't make a good game, but just another game
Dear Mr Derrat, another facet you may wish to consider is that, it is generally well accepted that the original Silent Hill was heavily influenced by the film 'Jacob's Ladder'. Some argue that SH is in fact little more than a homage to that film. If so then this would strengthen your theory as, (Spoiler Alert) the very similar manifestations of demons and warped hellish overlays into the reality seen in ''Ladder turn out to be a pre-death dream or purgatory. Not a parallel universe but an inner-verse made real. It seems plausible that SH continued this theme.
That's taking it too literally.
SH1 has a lot more from the movie Phantoms, SH2 has a lot from jacobs ladder
It's not a theory. Film was inspired by Bardo Thedol, Tibetian book of the Dead. Here, in our modern era you can google and read it yourself
If you take the bad ending from this game, it could very well be.
Jacobs Ladder is based on the very real mind control experiments by the CIA though (MKUltra). The movie explicitly says that at the end, and it's also mentioned in a deleted scene. It's very loosely based on a group of US Army guys that were experimented on against their will, and later sued because they were left pretty messed up. The experiments later resulted in the US torture programs (ie. Guantanamo Prison scandal).
If reality is the light side, and void is the dark side, and silent hill is the grey in between, Then Silent hill itself is the processes the mind goes through during death.
therealquade or it could, more or less, be purgatory
therealquade exactly. I have a theory that maybe they died when they crashed the vehicles.
thats like literally the canon though but okay
In a way, that might be proven, only in a certain instance, however and its not canon: during the bad ending of the original Silent Hill, Harry kills his daughter and the dimension around him starts to become unstable as he's grieving, After which, we are then given a shot of Harry dead in his car from the crash in the beginning of the game.
Again, only an instance, but, eh, seeing this comment reminded me of that moment.
I think SH is set in the purgatory (supposedly dead people stay there for a while before going to hell or heaven) in Christian mythology that doesn't exist tho.
I also think SH borrowed a lot from Jacob's ladder movie, so this purgatory is kinda a judgement trial and makes sense for most characters since most die or kill themselves. However there are few cases where live persons go there voluntarily (worshipers of evil) like Dalia that presumably sold their soul but they get killed eventually anyway and most likely they are in some sort of astral trip mode.
8:31 - I have no idea why I said Leonard Wolf when I meant Vincent Smith. xD MY BAD.
BTW, some people are pointing out the fact that Vincent says he is only joking to Heather after he says: "they look like monsters to you?" I don't happen to think he's joking, but let's say hypothetically that he is joking: okay, I cited a bad example, but my original point is still correct. For example...
In respect to Pyramid Head, the Book of Lost Memories highly suggests that he takes on different forms. I think it was Walter Sullivan who said that he saw Pyramid Head as a "red demon". Correct me if I'm wrong. But anyways, a better example... the nurses take on a different look in all three games, and that greatly depends upon the protagonist you play as.
Even if Vincent is just joking, there is ample evidence to suggest that the "monsters" that roam Silent Hill aren't perceived as monsters by all. Laura from SH2 doesn't seem to be phased by any of the "monsters" roaming around. Plus, if the "monsters" are all manifested elements of one's subconscious, why should she see them as monsters? As for Claudia and Vincent, if they worship the same God, I imagine doing so makes the "monsters" seem a lot less grotesque to them than they do to people like Heather. There's even that comment by Vincent where he says something to the effect that Devils and Gods are the same, depending on how you look at it. If he's worshipping "God" (an evil being who might as well be the devil), no kidding he isn't as phased by their appearance.
I mean you kinda took the quote out of context anyway since Vincent is basically just fucking with Heather in that scene and literally admits that right after. SH3 isn't even related to the mind of those in it like SH2 was. The unborn god inside Heather is twisting the real world into it's hellish state. Where do you even get off claiming that Jung's work is in anyway related to the SH games. Did someone from team silent list it as an inspiration?
Hey! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
I replied to the first part of your comment in an edit I did to my original post. As for "claiming that Jung's work is in anyway related to the SH games", I actually didn't claim that it's related. ;) Follow me here...
I don't even think it's out of the realm of possibility that the original leads at Team Silent never read anything by Jung... but they wouldn't have had to in my opinion.
I think what's great about Jung is that his distillation of mythology and how it works helps us to see patterns in several different works. For example, Jung's theories regarding the shadow, the anima and the animus, and synchronicity work remarkably well in the context of Silent Hill. BUT, that's just one of many mythological works that use these patterns. The encounter with the shadow is an event that occurs in everything from Apocalypse Now to Digimon. :P
Even if Team Silent never heard of Jung, don't you think it's remarkable how well the concepts of "synchronicity" and "the encounter with the shadow" work in the context of a Silent Hill game? That's all I was trying to point out. And I wanted to point that out because I think it helps give us a greater appreciation for the psychological depths the games go to.
Cheers. :)
The red devil that young Walter sees is a common misconception. Its not pyramid head, its a cult leader named jimmy stone who wears a red hooded robe. He tormented walter while he was being raised by the cult
Lol I was about to mention it xD
The whole cult sees angels. The monsters are heathens punishment for lacking faith. The truth is they are native spirits. Neither good nor evil. Only thinking makes it so.
Silent Hill is responsible for arguably more fan theories than just about any other series ever made - credit to its genius and depth, so I didn't expect much from the video except just another fan theory. But this video was excellent. Really well put together, explained perfectly, difficult to argue with and there's genuine evidence especially in 1, 2 & PT to support this.
9:40 To lucid dreamers, we call this the dreamscape or hub. It is a bit of a “middle ground” that allows us to achieve consciousness within our sleeping state, to explore and manipulate the world around us. With training, one can slow or increase the way in which time is experienced in this realm. I have experienced what has felt like years and even life times within that place, pondering many aspects of life or just taking the time to enjoy what peace I could find. Oddly enough, one constant among lucid dreamers is the presence of a shadowy figure. For most it seems to be a silhouette of themselves, other times it is of an individual they know. In cases where it is a visage of themselves, I often find that such individuals have suffered or are suffering sometimes severe cases of self hatred. I had always shrugged it off as a manifestation of the inner self hatred, that inner voice that critiques, but with the introduction of this idea and the depiction of silent hill, there may be some connection.
Thank you, since sincronicity is main theme of this discussion I may say, your comment is part of my own sincronicity this very moment...
Right
I’ve had a lucid experience with a shadow figure a couple years ago. I haven’t thought about it in a long time since it happened until reading this. Mine was guiding me though, like a guest through a strange new plane. I wanted to talk to it but it couldn’t speak, just show me around.
I lucid dream and the shadowy figures are my friend(s), they are nice and some are just there to chill and watch you and touch you because they are curious about who you are or what you do. Earlier in life, since I recognized them I thought they were out to get me I would lunge at them but they just scare easily and they don't want to fight. They just want to get away and not be seen or touched even though that's what they do to you. Now reading about what "evil" and "mean" things they have done to people on their own dreams, I just dont believe. I know tht sometimes people say that they are bad but even after reading that again and again I've never encountered one that was cruel, they are instead scared of me... It is true perception is important.
This stuff is really interesting. I've had a few dreams/nightmares where I was lucid and it included the presence of a shadowy figure. Here is a brief and rough summary of this lucid nightmare I had a while back that has stuck with me ever since:
Many of my dreams and nightmares consist of me being chased by a shadowy figure. In one of my own dreams there was this shadowy figure that killed people whenever I was around and whenever I attempted to claim my innocence and tell the people the killer was the demon, the demon would show up and kill them too causing a loop where I would be the suspect but I am not able to prove my own innocence. If I could describe its appearance, the figure was very tall and lanky, about 15ft tall. It was a man with a flat-brimmed hat with four symmetrically-pinched dents in the crown as well as a shotgun of some sorts. Whenever he'd shoot someone they would be obliterated since the gun was proportional to the size of the man. When it came to the rest of its appearance, the appearance was mostly vague, I could only see its silhouette, except for a face I could barely make out. If I could describe its face, it would be like looking at a very old vintage photograph where the lighting is off. To better describe this, it was like if a century old camera was used and there was a flashlight being pointed from below, pointing up at the man's face.
I am not sure if this adds on to anything, but in the dream I gained lucidity towards the end of the dream and was able to "wake up", however, this was a false awakening since I was still dreaming. I only truly woke up when the shadow figure showed up to my room to finally kill me. Also, the dream's atmosphere was very cold and dark. Most of the settings were familiar places, like my high school, except with no people and it was dark. The only unfamiliar place was this dark forest with dead trees and snow that was sort of lit up by moonlight. If you were to watch what I was seeing you could feel the darkness creeping up and the cold chills.
One last thing to consider from the dream, I had an old friend that was always there and he was guiding me up until my false awakening. He was the one that helped me gained lucidity by telling me it was just a dream and there was nothing to be afraid of. Although I knew he was my friend, his identity was unknown to me. I just simply knew he was an old friend of mine.
I kind of wanted to add a little bit of insight into this weird dream of mine. Sorry if this was too lengthy or cringe. I was just trying to be as descriptive as possible. One of the stranger things I realized was that old friend of mine kind of reminded me of the wise old man in Jungian psychology. He was the one that led me into the unfamiliar forest that was slightly lit by moonlight and was the one who told me that I shouldn't be afraid since I was dreaming since I was running away from the figure in fear with my old friend.
have never been so satisfied watching a Silent Hill analysis.
To give you a little background, I'm a Psychology student, heavily influenced by the work of Carl Jung. In the journey that it is to study Psychology in its different theories, I'd say Jung's is the one that comes the closest to how I perceive reality. So I find myself constantly studying his work and the work of his sucessors, as well as trying to come up with my own theories regarding the world.
On the other hand, I am an enormous Silent Hill fan exactly for the deal of symbolism this games brings to me. This game expresses symbols better than any other game I have ever played. (Of course, reffering to the first 4). And I have always tried to bring Silent Hill to the actual Psychology field (at one point, I even considered making it the work of my ungraduate thesis. I've always understood Silent Hill as a manifestation of these layers of the human psyche and individuation brought through the facing of one's unconscious, within the roles of complexes, symbols and, of course, the archetypes. But, I have no idea why, the idea of Synchronicity never crossed my mind, until you presented me this video. As I see your video, things make much more sense into my head. And my understanding of the possibilities of analysis for Silent Hill, and, as incredibly as it seems, my understanding regarding the inumerous possibilities of human symbolism grew considerably.
I have to say, how glad I am a stumbled upon your video.
You made an absolutely wonderful analysis of it, congratulations!
Ni Ck ok this is an old comment but if that is your picture since when can psychology be so hot?
I'm very interested myself and have a lot practical experiences with clinics oh and my bad experiences... where all this knowledge helps absolutely nothing if those others do not even understand it themselfes
Maybe Silent Hill is the real world and we are the game "Earth"
Are you saying that my controller is controlling me?
@@nicolasbascunan4013 wtf
I dread to think about the static affecting gameplay
My life is being a lie!
Oh boy i cant wait to meet all my favorite silent hill friends when i die
"A few weeks ago, while contemplating how to legitimize the multiple dimension theory..."
"For reasons I can't explain, I dubbed the middle circle "Silent Hill."
Really? You can't explain it? No possible reason for that one? lol
I need to get to bed. But, this Silent Hill playlist is coming with!
Happy 20 anniversary of Silent Hill.
I'd also like to tell you that synchronicity and "as above so below" are 2 terms and philosophies I am constantly thinking about, yet didn't expect to find back in a silent hill essay vid. Synchronicity indeed.
Unrelated to Silent Hill:
The image at 2:07 comes from a musical album 10.000 Days by progressive metal band Tool.
Enjoy the video Silent Hill and Tool fans :)
Waiting on that new album duuuude
@Eternal Need a hug? Lol
@@whitedastardly2938 It leaked last night!
Painted by Alex Grey. Tool's album Ænima was inspired by Jung too. Synchronicity!
@@Itsunclegabby I'm gonna wait to hear it, I wanted to listen on the intended date. I'm sure it's badass tho. What do you think of it?
Still coming back to this video, it's amazing and eye-opening, more people need to see this.
Thanks man!
This is one of the best illustrations of the multiple dimension theory I've seen in the 11 years of forum discussion I've been part of. I went ahead and shared this on Reddit with a member looking for some clarity.
Been watching a few of your vods and just subbed, your humour and knowledge are amazing, keep it up dude !
I like when a CZcams video blows my mind and I have to spend the rest of the nightshift putting the pieces back together
It's more than that Max!!! It also deals with the concept of "mirror world's" and, how they apply to the hero's predicament...
Carl Jung is my man. He's awesome.
James Carmichael
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he is your jung (german: jung =boi).
He inspired Tool quite a bit
Interesting: I wonder how this relates to Silent Hill 4, where "The Room" and the world attached to it are all part of a mass dream constructed by Walter. (People from our world, including the main hero, are pulled into the dream world when they go to sleep.) The emphasis in that story is less on each individual character's experience and more on how the symbolism of the dream world ties in to Walter and his early life.
Silent hill 4 is not very much connected to the main lore of the main silent hill, as it's more connected to black magic and cult rather than your own inner demons.
That's why silent hill 1 & especially 2 are called masterpiece.
While in sh2, its so vaguely explained, that every individual can make his own explaining of silent hill.
In case of this video, the main creator of the game wouldn't even know about this theory before creating this game.
hey i’m a big silent hill fan and i just came across your channel and from the few videos i’ve watched i’m completely infatuated with the fact that the concepts on which you speak on are regular study projects of mine that i dive into on a daily. maybe call it, a “synchronicity” 😉
Woa, really cool breakdown. Amazing work!
Damm, very fascinating video! I love Silent Hill, and I think I can say your videos about Silent Hill definitely reinforce that love I have for the franchise. Really cool how the franchise's lore is actually pretty deep.
I’m late to seeing these but good job dude, very good research and expansion of what we were never clearly told. Love it.
I'm also late, but better late than never
I really appreciate your breakdown of this ! I ended up publishing a book due to an event where a dream I had came true. It was so similar that even the lamp posts on the street turned on and off, just like in my dream. It freaked my friend and I put; and since then I’ve always known dreams are connected to reality to the core.
alot of times in my dreams...well sometimes...i know im dreaming...and when i tell people in my dream i see ..."this is not real...this is a dream" they look at me dumbfounded....for instance ...i had a dream i knew i was dreaming...i was in class...and i said to the other students "why are you doing this test ...it doesnt matter...this is a dream" they all just looked at me...in other dreams i have...(alot are at school)...im skipping school/ trying to get out of the school to get home..keep in mind im 33 and havent been in school since 18..i have been having my school dreams for about a decade now too.and its not always the same school...its more like a mold of all the schools i been to...but they seem to have structures that werent there...like antique looking light posts...lantern looking...certain hallways from my middle school...then intersect into hallways from my high school.....maybe subconsciously its that i know i should have done better in school...i really dont know what to think...i have alot of other dreams where its always something transporting me and my friends...whether it be a bus a train or plane..and for some reason its always to new york and it seems to be in the future.......who knows....my most recent dream i can recall...was a satallite dropping down from space and landing in my driveway....but honestly i think it was because i was watching a youtuber named whang doing his usual tales from the internet reports about some proclaimed time traveller emails during the early internet days..and his wacky tech designs using tools and tech nasa used....and i watched it right before i fell asleep...i have a full on journal book filled about all my dreams during the summer of 2004...then i got lazy and didnt write them down anymore...only if they are really bugged out ill write them down...and even the more recent ones i happen to write down are so bugged out i would look like a weirdo talking about them...so there private lol...it is cool to look back on though.some dreams i always feel like i did something wrong on accident...like driving and i accidentally hit a car...not hard...but like reversed into it slightly...and then im overwhelmed with stress that ill be caught or the consequence of it financially/ what the law will do...and alot of other dreams i have are mostly of hanging out with old friends that i havent seen in years maybe since teen or childhood...and they look exactly the same as i seen them last...and im in there house which they had moved out of over 2 decades ago now.
billz co yes I’ve had school dreams but I mostly look at a 4d level than a 3D i look at all my mistakes or it’ll be a different outcome, Last night i had a dream I was doing abroad & my old English teach was there and new classmates and guys I had a crush with through out my school years. I’ll know it’s a dream but I just still do whatever going on lol I guess my thoughts are saying I really miss school and socializing
The funny thing is the application of imagery in "dreams" and the equivalent interpretation in the real world does have its own form of synchronicity.
In my own personal experience, I dreamt for 5 months the same dream of a "giant wave" hitting myself and those I hold dear while stood at a beach, the wave was much akin to the one seen in the movie Interstellar, impending and overwhelming. I always awoke from my dream when the wave hit me.
In real life, not much soon after, I lost my job and my marriage completely failed, affecting my kids and life as a result.
Upon inspection towards the Fruedian method of dream interpretation many monthes later when engrossed in the symbolism of why the dream, was, what it was. I found that the "wave" was a subconscious attempt at giving me fair warning to the affected parallel of real life.
(Dream = Wave = Impending destruction VS Real = Destroyed marriage/loss of job)
To my surprise, dreams as a form of synchronicity, even if used in the context of premonition, linked my dream to what actually happened not too soon after in my own little life.
The strangest part for me is, since I had those dreams of the "wave of infinite height hit me", lost my job, marriage, etc. I have not once had the same dream ever since and I have since had others which I interpret using online "dream bibles", each with it's own interpretation and certain...clairvoyance...
I consider myself normal by anyones standards, but this video found me rethinking of the terrifying application of certain theories and why the nature of the universe is what it is...even if it is Silent Hill lol
Has anyone else experienced what I've described?
Without a single doubt this is one of the most excellent explanation of what is going on in Silent Hill. By the way, later a channel of Reinstall Paul was created where the author elaborated many points of yours according to occult and Jungean style explanation.
I've got no other idea what interpretation could be better, than this - none. Thank you for your video!
Amazing video! You sound just like Ben Wyatt from Parks and Rec aka Adam Scott. I love it haha
What Yung calls Synchronicity I simply think of as being in rhythm with things, with the universe at large, if that makes sense. Again amazing and enlightening work from M Derrat
This video made me realize just how many coincidences happened throughout my life up until now.
It's so wonderfully terrifying what synchronicity is to me now and this is only my first time ever hearing what it is!
definitely something to ponder thoroughly...
¡gracias!
I always have dreams of someone, they're always blurred, or undefined, telling me something or how things will happen, and I always forget the greater details of the dream, but when I do receive the message or thing said in the dream, it comes back to me and I remember it, and I shut down trying to comprehend what just happened, I even have these dreams when im just day dreaming. It's strange. And the messages are always different, sometimes it's about something important, other times it's just something my wife will say to me. They always have something to do with my average everyday life though, so I wouldn't say they're spiritual, but something psychological.
I have an essay I wrote called "Pop Cultural Talisman's In Cinema." The main idea behind it, is that when a piece of cinematic art is so profound, it becomes a talisman when viewed, to form synchronicity in real life.
That sounds fascinating. Do you have it online for people to read?
Hey man would love to read this sounds really interesting. Also what is a talisman? I’ve heard the word before but what makes something a talisman
Had pretty much the same idea, never thought about it that much though :D Thanks for making this!
Watching your videos, regardless of the initial topic, always leaves me behind with so many thoughts in my mind. Things I'd like to confirm or add. I just wish I was better at collecting those thoughts and expressing myself.
Anyway, I wanted to say here I very much appreciate this idea of a multiple dimension theory, since I was never able to believe in an infinite number of parallel universes.
Yeah, the fog world is like a transition dimension built upon a collective consciousness, and somewhat mirror the town that exists in the real world, and could be coloured by different perspectives. And the Other worlds are when you slip into one deeper into worlds that influenced by different psyche.
The fog world itself may be within the dream of the town, and it is there that you can slip into another dream (nightmare), and things from dreams can slip into. Such things appearing differently to different people.
I believe your videos are incredible! I love the way you interpretate Silent Hill, you're awesome 🙌
Thanks for watching, homie! :D
your silent hill analyses are fucking phenomenal and im honestly surprised u were able to fit all of this into a 10 min vid. as someone who holds silent hill extremely close to their heart and spends a lot of time analyzing it, you’ve made me think about it even deeper than i thought i could.
Ah man... thanks so much for your awesome comment! Expect a new Silent Hill video in the next day or two. ;)
really cool stuff man. love it!
Great video. Hope you're having a good day Max.
I've experienced Synchronicity for years...never thought it would take stumbling on a small vid on a Monday morning to put a name to it. I've just always referred to it as 'an occurance'. Started when I was 5.
I have had so many - I am documenting them...have you documented yours? Feel free to contact me, if you want to share these and talk about ways to deal with them...morganlake16 at gmail.com
I've never talked to anyone that does not have this perception of Silent Hill. This is what they mean when they talk about Silent Hill existing as multiple dimensions.
i have the same problem... never want to listen or they don't know this!
Damn that music still gives me chills.
We need more videos like these!
As much as I love Owaku’s work on SH2. I still prefer 1, 3 and 4 over it, cuz it focuses on the order and the origin of the corruption of the spiritual power of the town. Also, SH2 became the blueprint for every game past 4,( maybe 5, but it still has the emotional baggage aspect involved.) 1 and 3 centers around the Cult and it’s monsters reflect the deepest recesses of Alessa, Cheryl and Heather’s psyche. After Heather defeated “God” in SH3, that should have cleansed the town of corruption, returning it to it’s once peaceful form. 4 focused on another ritual, (Dahlia’s plan A) to bring about the descent of the Cult’s god and that’s fine.
Funnily enough I was thinking of a similar triple Venn diagram just the other day but in the context of how I would believe the soul might work in conjunction to the mind and body, the brain being the link between the spirit and the body, just thought it was neat that it lined up in a similar way with this theory of how silent hill works and the idea presented that what is in the mind could be interpreted as another plane of existence with overlapping boundaries
Mental Transmutation of a person caused by themself or a opposing force , able to rize or lower the vibration of ourselfs to be able to see things that only we could witness and experience for the vibration moved us into a different view point / dimension
Holy shit man I just lied in my bed and started watching your videos with automatic play and damn, you're great!
And that's why silent hill 1 & especially 2 are called masterpiece
In case of silent hill 2, it is so vaguely explained, that every individual can make his own explaining of the events occurring in silent hill.
A potential plot hole turned into a self imagined goldmine.
A writer's heaven.
Love the Alex Grey art as visual representation of synchroncity.
Sooo late but this was reallly good, glad to have seen it😭
exactly 31 seconds into the video i just want to state that my take has always been that it's a matter of being trapped in the overlap of "dimensions", or rather the perspectives, of yourself and others' utmost fears, subconscious thoughts, and outlooks on the world
Or did you fall asleep with auto play activated and it came to your subconscious in a dream while listening
Lenard was kidding tho about the monsters looking like people ..when he was talking to heather
Silent Hill's monsters and environments change appearance based on the person perceiving them.
- "[Valtiel's] form is also seen differently depending on the person." (CITATION: Book of Lost Memories, Page 110)
- Hiroyuki Owaku suggests that maybe the monsters don't look like monsters to everybody, or change form depending on who is perceiving them (CITATION: Book of Lost Memories, Page 102)
Was he, really? Or just placating Heather because he knew she could not handle the truth yet? It would be just another trauma piled on her when she was having trouble dealing with the ones she already had.
This theory can also explains the TV World from Persona 4; great video!
You sir, have some excellent videos on silent hill.
Honestly when you talked about the golden scarab I thought about 2015 and when Kojima made ground zeroes and p.t. then they took away p.t. and ever since then I remember when PlayStation sent me a message saying that I can play anytime but if you delete it you won't be able to redownload it. just that feeling of what happend and watching history happening before my eyes everyday it was amazing like I was one with the world
I love how mysterious you sounded on this clip, mostly at the end, imo Silent Hill lore has been under discution for so long, its not really synchronicity in this case its just similar ideas all-around, its known that people's mind and dreams are changing their environment in SH.
Great theory my friend... I think you are right in terms of the monsters being manifestations of a person's mind and I think the spiritual power of the town is what makes it concrete to them... It's due to not having certain things clear that many developers after SH4 took the series on their own interpretation... For example Masahiro Iti creator of Pyramid Head was pissed that it's character was used on other non-related stories of the franchise and the respond was "Well there is a painting in which he appears as judger and executioner with people around hanging from boxes on they're heads" so it's basically either bad interpretation or just "he looks badass he needs to be here to sell"
Fantastic point and I absolutely agree. A point to think about is whether the town is actually abandoned or not. If James and Mary went to the town on vacation what happened to
It?
Except that if each individual's dreams exist on their own plane of existence, then no two people should have the same experience in Silent Hill ever. So Harry and Cybill wouldn't see the same monsters at all. James wouldn't experience Angela's Otherworld or the Abstract Daddy boss fight. etc...
Also, Vincent's line of "They look like monsters to you?" doesn't necessarily mean that they see different things; rather that they may perceive the same thing in different contexts. Satanic imagery looks evil and "monstrous" to a Christian, but is holy and worthy of worship to a Satanist. Even though it's the same image, both groups perceive it in different contexts. Since Vincent grew up in the church, the monsters aren't "monsters" to him; they're probably "angels" or something like that.
www.megabearsfan.net/post/2012/02/22/The-Otherworld-of-Silent-Hill-is-NOT-an-other-world-its-OURS.aspx
Right, but the thing is, it seems that sometimes people's worlds overlap. It rarely happens, like in the case of Silent Hill 2... but it sometimes does... like, with the example you cited, of Angela's abstract daddy.
Remember, even though everybody has their individual consciousness, they are all part of one collective consciousness. They are all attached to the infinite void and ordered reality. Sometimes things overlap. :)
This Overlap could be symbolic of how the characters relate to one another to a degree, especially since they're in Silent Hill. Also, and especially with Silent Hill 2, the Overlap happens when there's an emotional/psychological connection or understanding with another character. Silent Hill's most extreme Overlaps occured in Silent Hill 4, where the room is a physical, mental and emotional connection of/to Walter and in Silent Hill Homecoming, where another town's historical ties to this God manifests through the different families. I could go on, but I will say I agree with the video.
Remember how James sees Angela's world entirely on fire? Or how Eddy's freezer arena is built to protect him? The consciousness of others can somehow bleed into other's consciousness, like their inner-dreams melting into on another.
Tahtahs that was amazing! I believe so that I dream my future, and not dream about the beforehands.
I had my own world when i sleep where i was back in my hometown with my family.
Of course i could move / feel / touch and hear things in my dreams.
But how is that possible
This is trully amazing!
I may be wrong, but could Silent Hill also be Limbo?
So basically in Silent Hill, Rhonda Byrne’s secret, the law of attraction full on works. “Thoughts become things.”
What jung called “synchronisity” is what is referred to as the denning-krueger effect and it has nothing to do with manifestation
Like Overlook Hotel, the town is called souls to restore the energy drawned by Alessa. SH3 never explained how the power of the town can appears outside SH, in some way this is because Heather is alive, or because the god was inside her, but what if she is the god herself, that explained that the town needs her alive, this allow the power to exit the town, and appears in other places. Maybe that's the key of SH3, Heather broke a some kind of mystical barrier that forbidden the energy of the town to get out. SH3 is also the end of the cult.
I had so many of those in my life it's crazy
Jung and Silent Hill in the same video? I love you!
I love YOU!
I was always under the impression that the multiple dimensions theory referred to the fact that Silent Hill 1 and 3, and 2 and 4 existed in separate realities. 1 and 3 take place in a universe where the cult is still in operation and the goings-on in Silent Hill are being directly influenced by it. 2 and 4 take place in a universe where the cult has since died off and Silent Hill has been left to rot, becoming sentient in a way, and calling out to miserable people in order to torment them. This is further illustrated by the different aesthetic qualities between 1/3 and 2/4's versions of the otherworld. 1 and 3's otherword appears rusty, burning, bloody, likely very hot, while 2 and 4's otherworlds are cold, filthy, damp and rotten.
I always considered synchronicity a type of dejavu
2:08 I somehow knew I'd see this here. Synchronicity indeed.
amazing video man, i had this feeling when James falls twice before the prison. Those pits are mental pits but he doesnt know that, none of them do.
For some reason your speech reminds me a lot of Sam Harris at times haha I’ve been watching a lot of your vids man. I’m loving them
Watch the waking life movie, I liked the bits about minds having same ideas across the globe without ever meeting, as if they just picked it up in the air like a signal
I think the dispute is MDT says there are multiple realms that the characters pass between while SDT says there is one gradient between reality and unreality.
Mainly, it sounds like an issue of how many pieces we want to divide up and name this gradient between waking and dreaming.
7:13
you pretty much described freud second topic
Super ego
Ego
ID
but only the middle circle fit this, the first and third are like something more metaphisical( in another words that's pretty a new psychoanalitical view of the mind)
Nice.
That ending gave me chills...
From my thoughts, Silent Hill is about delving into the human shadow and overcoming it. I like that you brought in Jung, perhaps you could have talked about Jung's idea of the shadow and overcoming the shadow.
Several things that might interest you in regard of that video, aka two quotes and another work by carl jung.
-One quote from the Dream of the Red chamber: "A tale of grief is told,
fantasy most melancholy.
Since all live in a dream,
why laugh at others' folly?"
The other one: "according to the Chinese philosophical classic Zhuangzi, the great Daoist thinker of that name fell asleep one day and dreamed that he was a butterfly. When he woke up, he did not know whether he really was a man who had dreamed he was a butterfly or whether he was a butterfly now dreaming he was a man.
Now, what you're talking about, that dark part on your diagram, seems to correspond to what jung called the shadow self. I think you'd find it interesting. (Sorry if you mentionned it in the video and I missed it).
I’ve seen the golden Scarab before, I didn’t know it was rare !
Oh boi, Carl Jung and Silent Hill in one video! Great great job man!
Interesting explanation, but where does the Dark World fits? Like the School of SH1, its not the fog world (when you finish) nor the Otherworld (halfway there), is it a inbetween state?
Holy crap my brain is melting your thesis is insane
I was literally thinking about this phenomenon the day before I found this video
Did you know that synchronicity and serendipity are closely related?
A branch off from the same tree.
I get this thing where I have like deja vu from my dreams like I will be like this second of this day was in a dream from 2 nights ago
came here to discover more about silent hill and end up discovering that i've been living an extreme synchronicity in the past years lmao
I don't believe it's synchronicity. I think it's just another case of "nothing is original, nothing is new, nothing hasn't been thought of by thousands, maybe millions of people before you".
I had an idea for a story when I was a kid wherein dreams and reality were two physical realms existing side by side and when we entered one or the other our memories of the other world would be a foggy mirror to the reality we were in at the time.
It sounds fancy, but in reality it was just 12 year old me going: omg, wouldn't it be cool if dreams were our second life?!
I didn't know about Silent Hill at the time and I have experienced quite a few times that I come up with a concept for a story and then months or years later down the line I see that idea on a movie poster at the cinema. I especially remember being salty about Children of Men back when it was released to cinemas. It was pretty much exactly the same as a story I had been working on for a while, which is quite the coincidence :P
If you shift the positioning of the circles it could look alot like the halo of the sun symbol. I always thought that the circles represented our demension, fog world and otherworld (dark world).
I’ve had quite a few experience with dreams happening in life later in time I had one of me using a bathroom of a house I’d never been in realized it was the bathroom about 3 months later of a house my sister was renting at the time
I think it's just one of the conclusions that are hinted at through silent hill lore, whether intentional or not. It's not as though the other guy thought of what you thought of word for word, but he did think of a similar idea. It's not impossible to think of a parallel idea to someone who has absorbed the same stimuli as you and is focusing on it to think of some deeper meaning that may line up with yours. I just feel as though its very possible, especially with such a big game, for two people to come up with similar ideas, esspecially if you're actively seeking this sort of thing out.
I will recomend you to take a look in Renné Descartes' and George Berkeley's work.