NEW Amazon Flex Driver Gets An Unfortunate Surprise | First Shift
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Desire'e just attempted her first ever Amazon Flex delivery shift. What was it like and what beginner mistakes did she make that you can learn from.
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0:00 - First Shift Intro
0:37 - Hourly Pay & Shift Time
1:17 - Don't Wait To Sign Up For Amazon Flex (Here's Why)
2:06 - How Many Stops For 3.5 Hours?
2:43 - Route Assignment
3:16 - Do This Immediately After Getting Your Packages
4:00 - Time & Miles To First Stop
4:34 - First Delivery
4:46 - Handing Packages To Customers
5:35 - What Happens If Your Shift Goes Long?
6:14 - Be Prepared For This When You're Done
6:42 - Best GPS Navigation For Amazon Flex
7:41 - Some Warehouses Need Better Signage
8:23 - Overall Summary
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I love when you show up at the warehouse and they don’t have anything to give you. They cancel out and you still get paid.
Happened to me today on my 2nd block of the day cool $81.00.
My first two blocks were just like that
First time this morning. Loved it. Eating breakfast and going back to bed until lunch hour begins.
Only happened once for me in a year of driving.
@mostmost1 NEVER😫everyone has experienced this but me!!! They told me I'm obligated to sit & wait til THE END OF THE BLOCK and then I'll still be paid
Just started flex
So far I’ve been having good luck (Knock on wood)
Day 1. No route and got payed
Day 2 . 2hr fresh for $50
Day 3-5 routes got canceled and still got payed
Day 6 - PENDING lol
My first Flex shift had no route so I got $130 for waking up and going to work! Yay Me!
Finished a 4:00-7:00a block this morning. 30 minute drive to the first stop, which was a business in a strip mall. Closed at that time of course, so at the end of the route, needed to make a 30 minute unpaid extra trip back to the warehouse. They should really pay for that additional time that is no fault of the driver.
There is no point in returning it the same day as it will still count against you.
@@xcalibertrekker6693 I hear you, but it has to be returned by the next day by 10:00a and not having a block scheduled the next day it’s going to be a 30 minute drive either way.
Also, they shouldn’t penalize the driver for a delivery scheduled to a closed business.
They would but so many drivers would abuse that and constantly ensure they had at least one package to return for whatever reason they came up with.
I leave it at the location anyway. Closed or not. They don't penalize you for that, yet they will for not delivering it and you wasting your time.
@@mostmost1 yeah, totally get that. They incentivize the incorrect behavior. Your stats and $ are better even if worse for the customer.
Your videos( and also other drivers)😊really helped me prepare for my first shift. My first time out ever was $220 4hrs out in Hollister, CA
I run some of my routes backwards if the first stop is closer to home. Also allows me to claim what would have been dead miles since I'm going to the furthest stop first.
They don't get pissed that you do it that way?
@@miked3168 From Amazon's perspective, nope, not at all. 99% of the packages are in a window, e.g. 12-8. Very rarely do I see a package that has a time requirement, and if there is one, it's usually already marked late in the app as soon as I scan the itinerary.
The building that I go to already has the packages marked with numbers for the stops. It's on a separate sticker! Easy life!
The warehouse she picked up from was a sub same day warehouse. We have one in Austin, and that's where I get most of my blocks. There, you scan your license at a kiosk, then the system automatically assigns you a cart number, you scan one package to confirm that it's your route. The app then loads all the packages in your itinerary, then you load and go. Those have letter stickers aaa, bbb, ccc or ddd. To sort my packages, I sort by letter, then the last 4 of the TBA number. That makes the packages easy to find, and I can do the route in any order if need be. I have to be able to find my packages quickly, since some of these 4 and 4.5 hour blocks have 40 packages or more.
Well said thanks David, yes during the shift she said it was sub same day. Wasn't really familiar with that prior. Thank for watching!
Is it just 40 packages in all to deliver? Cause I use to deliver for Amazon and I want to do flex but if 40 is all I have to deliver thenwould gladly take that. I can do 40 in like maybe an hour even quicker I'd like that
@dark12ain Blocks have a different number of packages depending on how far you have to drive, how many Apts vs houses and how closely they are spaced together. I doubt you could get 40 packages done in 1 hour from ssd. They are not like dsp routes. The best I've done is 40 packages in 2.5 hours.
@@davidnys1418 they must be super spaced out through the city?
@dark12ain They can be. I've gotten straight up country routes where it was 45 minutes to my first stop and then all the stops were pretty spread out. I've also gotten routes that were closer to the station and the houses were all 5 minutes or less apart. The easiest routes are regular logistics, which are leftover dsp routes. Those are usually tightly packed, and I can finish them quickly.
I haven't driven Amazon Flex but I have been a PVD (Personal Vehicle Driver) for UPS, where I was making $40-$60 (overtime)per hour, but I was part of the union, so they were paying top driver wage. UPS does do seasonal PVD a couple of weeks before Christmas, in which they pay about $32 an hour
I appreciate you sharing, thanks for watching!
PVD only paid $21 an hour in my area last year
I do Amazon flex on Saturdays and Sundays try to do a 3 hour block but a 3 hour block feels like a 5 hour block because they give me so many packages..lol..ugh. It's not worth it if you ask me
Thanks for all the content, Mike. Your videos have been very helpful. I'm new to gig work, DoorDashing for about 1.5 months so far. I haven't tried other gig apps yet, but will add another one or several, once I get a little more seasoned with DoorDash. I've delivered for Domino's on 3 separate occasions, and even was a RCA, ( part time Rural Carrier) for the USPS. Those were all W-2 employers.
Love seeing newer people!
That’s wild I live in Pittsburgh too ..cool to watch these vids
I love 5 hr blocks. 21 - 35 and I usually finish an hour n half early. 3hr blocks I get 49pkgs and takes me 6hrs!!!
I've been driving Flex here in SLC UT for almost a year, I had a 3.5 block yesterday and I had 39 stops and 41 packages and it wasn't to far from where I live, and I finished and got back home about 30 minutes before my end of block so that was good. But sometimes I'll have a 3.5 and my first stop is literally 40 miles away, and I generally only have about 25 to 30 stops and packages. But a few of the things I dislike most is delivering to down town, business and to apartments that require a code or one click entrance, these places wouldn't be bad except that Amazon doesn't figure or take in to consideration the time it takes to get in to some of these places. But overall I've enjoyed the experience.
Is the pay pretty well in slc are???
@@dahighwayhitta1484 I would say no, it seems like the avg is about $18 a block, obviously that goes up if you finish quicker.
My ridiculous warehouse gave me a 6-9 am downtown block - 90% commercial and 10% fancy-pants apartments/lofts.
When you return those packages it counts against you. Unless it's pitch dark and you're in a bad area try to finish your delivery.
No matter what they will always ding you for not delivering an assigned package.
@@xcalibertrekker6693and for any delays due to darkness or a bad connection
I called the inadequates at Driver Support (persistently) and finally got them to remove 7 undeliverable packages that were due to their mismanagement of commercial delivery hours and after 3 calls they finally removed their ugly stain from my standing. The undeliverable packages had dropped my standing significantly - from high Fantastic to very low Great. Honestly, in my experience, “Standing” is virtually pointless unless you’re in the very bottom range. In my area (Kansas), routes are scheduled by some inept individual in Atlanta, Georgia who must be absolutely clueless regarding KS geography and they’re too many packages for the allotted time. Supervisors at my warehouse and Driver Support have told me to stop at my scheduled time and return the undelivered package- but, you’re correct, they will ding you for them. Be persistent and keep calling support until they remove them!
Exactly and for me it would take longer to drive back to the warehouse than to just finish up!!
they don't care if it's DARK, RAINING, SNOWING, if you're out there delivering, only thing that they like is everything delivered.
I was thinking about trying the Coraopolis location in Pittsburgh ive tried the Freeport location and i was out in the Boondocks lol lost gps signal and all thank god for my truck gps! im 10 min from the north versailles location but i would commute for bigger pay. im only a month in!
Columbus Ohio has the same setup& sometimes them stupid check in kiosks don't work & yeah we get our carts scan 1 box& the whole route pops up
what are the odds that i watched her video 2 days ago and you go and upload this :D
It's blowing up, got recommended to me - perfect timing as I was looking for another First Shift video!
I recently was approved for flex. I applied over 2 years ago. I live in Chicago. Some warehouse do have me walk in to get my route. Others have to drive in the warehouse and get in line and others I'm outside but like in a line. Luckily there's 2 warehouses by me and another almost openings. All are less then 10 minutes away. The other 2 wearhouess that are right outside the city, one or then usually gets me a route into the city. And If it doesn't, I'll turn on uber and get rides along the way towards My destination
my 3-3.5 hr routes have had 27-31 packages. My routes are averaging
20-22 miles
I drive 11 miles to the warehouse and have driven 5-15 miles max to home at end of route
I’m in California.
Love this video, I’m on my 1st pick up right now. Kinda Nervous
I use google maps to avoid the toll roads, then I use the flex app when it's close by. I go back and forth between apps
I just started doing Flex a couple of weeks ago, one thing that I found out about the different types of wearhouse is that sub same day and regular amazon wearhouses is that Sub same day you can scan and organize the packages by stop, you can't do that with regular wearhouses, with regular wearhouses the yellow sticker has the package number and they are given on sequence, example: 2373, 2374 and so on.
Our warehouses here in Pittsburgh don't say sub same day and I can use the search bar scan method to have the stop number pop up.
@@YourDriverMikeMike, this seems like extra work to me. Why not just use the numbers on the stickers?
I was doing Flex in Orange County CA, and for Amazon Fresh and Amazon Subscription warehouses, I would go in and check in to the kiosk and have to grab my assigned rack of packages to bring out to my car.
on my 2nd route (Atllanta) I went over by 1.5 hrs..nobody told me that I should just return the packages. I was so angry but I made smiles that day. I called driver support and escalated for a few days...after talking about it over and over they finally agreed to give me more pay....over $100 because it was almost 2 additional hours....but now I stop right at the end of my block because if you go past 15 min after your block is over all of the remaining packages are considered late and it affects your standings.
It's better to organize it by addresses put the ones on one side 20 on one side 30 on one side or three through six in one part of the vehicle then go from there
In the Bay Area California sub same day it’s actually not bad
Most of the time 3hrs block can get done in 2hrs and 5hrs block in 3hrs
Not sure if it’s the same for others but you get to choose to return any packages to the warehouse the same day or the next day at 10am
3:30am blocks are the best no traffic
Do you have a link to Desiree’s channel? Indy is more area.
I don’t even remember signing up for flex I opened my email and had one from them saying I’m off the waitlist log on for on boarding I was on it for like 8 months
In Cincinnait, If you have more packages and you run out of time and you take them back, you get dinged, even though you ran out of time. lol
Mike, you should try Altoona. Most of the time the routes are super easy for the 3hr blocks.
I went long and got paid for it, but there were shenanigans at the warehouse that I reported when I asked for extra pay, and it was on Black Friday so I think they took that into account also
Raleigh area there’s a waiting list for Flex.
I got paid once for going over but it was beyond my control. I have went over especially the first route because I was totally unfamiliar with the area but I just finished the route without the extra pay simply because I was there and it was just easier than to return the packages
2:27 Here in Florida, well, at the warehouse I go sometimes (Tamarac FL - VFL3) is the same formula, you pick up the assigned car , I usually make only 3 or 3 and a half hours shift, because it's just for extra money and because I'm disabled, and normally I have no more than 25-26 stops, the less I had was 13 😂... but the area to deliver was like 25 - 30 miles away from the warehouse. I fight all the time with the app, but I got this $ 70+ payments for the job. For less than this I prefer not to do it. I use the same method to organize my deliveries, for me it's the best way. I was thinking about making a video of this, it must be interesting for people like me making this with one prosthetic leg 🦿
Good video Mike!
Thanks for sharing from FL!
The hard part is take blocks 😭
$21 bucks is barely minimum wage after accounting for 1099 taxes and wear and tear on the car
The milage tax deduction saves you money in the long run.
I haven’t tried Amazon flex. I know my nearest warehouse is 35 minutes away in another county and if I deliver in that county (where I use to live) it would be an hour drive home. Although I could stop and visit relatives before going home.
How do you handle an RD (rural delivery ) address? They can be a little tricky.
I do Amazon Flex in what they call a Super Rural area. No DSP here, and even USPS won't go to many of the houses due to the "roads" being so bad. The pay is tons more than what urban drivers get but the wear and tear on the car is more. I finish my 4 hour and 4.5 hour blocks between 2 and 2.5 hours. The Flex navigation app is horrific - it uses GPS coordinates for homes and if the house is on a long windy driveway [most are] and closer to a parallel road, the app will send you to the parallel road or a road 10+ minutes around the other side of the mountain. Never, ever trust the routing in the Flex app. Even when traveling on interstates, it messes up; it uses very old OSM data and Amazon doesn't fix it, nor do they learn from the routes drivers do drive to get to places. I tend to use Organic Maps and Apple Maps. I keep Google off my phone for privacy reasons. I usually have about 40 packages and anywhere from 20-40 stops. I use the yellow sort codes to keep packages in my car organized - I'm the first driver to the station and the first to leave - I load quickly and unless I am doing a crash route [eg: a route that covers 10+ route codes - they will give the crash routes to drivers who are quick and organized, as crash routes send you all over the place and can take me 3 hours for a 4 hour block]. Crash routes do not have any sort codes on the packages, so I organize by street/area which takes longer. The routes in a super rural area like mine can take you just a few minutes to get to the first stop or 35+ minutes and 55+ minutes to come back [we serve two states - NC and GA - from the same station, and one never knows if one is going out of state].
Super Rural routes are definitely challenging, but usually lack apartments. And I rarely have cell service, so running the app in Airplane Mode is a requirement or the Flex app will get confused about where you are. When I have a route that I do have cell service, I use the notify of arrival feature to keep the dog attack chances down. I'm usually attacked about 3x a week by a loose aggressive dog. It's the 2nd least favorite part of the job [the least favorite is having someone come at you with a gun because they don't see the blinkers flashing, and multiple delivery signs on my car nor my Amazon vest]. I tend to do it 3-4x a week as my day job is inside working for myself, so when I get cabin fever, I get a max salaried block [always wait for the blocks to get near double their starting rate!], and go spend a couple of hours exploring the county. :)
Sometimes it various in Indy. I just did 31 in 3 hours at the same location she is at. But I've had 12 in 5 hours. It just depends. We have some locations you drive your vehicle in the building
You really have to be strategic when I doing a block. Check your drop offs because Amazon mostly messes up. For example, my block was 5:45p-9:45p. Stop #25 but due before 8 and #30 was before 8:15. Why not drop those off first right? Also customer canceled so I had one package to return to warehouse. Never again. Im either dropping it off to customer or returning it the next time I get a block from that warehouse. Also never drive in apartments you can get stuck inside and have to wait for someone to leave. So many other annoying things as well you need to be aware
Never heard of a package being cancelled while it was almost at the door you should have just delivered it.
I've recently started with flex. They need to be more transparent. It shouldn't be a crap shoot.
If u hand off make sure to get the person u handed the packages to provide there name and signature so if the person who the package belongs to knows who accepted the package always make sure they confirm the name on the package before hand off Bay Area flex drivers not sure if it’s the same everywhere
Looking good.
🙌🏻🙌🏻
Been on the flex list since last Christmas! Would love to be able to add it to my gig apps someday
If you did batch orders with Walmart Spark. You would fit in with Flex. I was put off with the amount of packages but the pay is guaranteed.
Love Flex. Usually only get 10 packages.
My first block had only 12 packages, and it had to be cancelled, because app issues. I read someone showed up for a block and they didn't have any packages and they still got paid, lol...
Does anyone else’s warehouse have the route order numbered on those yellow stickers? It goes from 1-40 (or however many packages you have) Mine does and it’s so nice for organizing. Also I feel like each hub should just have a map (in the app) that would show where we load up as well as where we drop off returns. Yesterday I got two packages that weren’t even on my route and they told me previously to drop off returns in the same loading area we get packages. So I went to do that and see like 50 vans being loaded up and they were all mad at me for coming through there 😅 then they told me to go to the other side of the building but there were a ton of vans loading up there as well, it was so confusing and I definitely felt SO out of place! I’ve only done 6 blocks but it it’s different procedure almost every time. One shift there was only one route and instead of sending people home, they gave each driver 2-3 packages, so 7 drivers drove to the same location about 25 min away, idk how to feel about flex so far 😅
Mines does I love that I always use it.
I think I applied 3 years ago. Only at it for 3 weeks now.
There is no rhyme or reason in package numbers by block hours anymore. You definitely drive further doing 4.5 or more block hours. Ive finished 4 hr blocks faster than 3.5 hrs.
My facility is in north west Indiana. Ive been as far west as Sauk village Illinois to Three Oaks Michigan. It just makes no sense to send me to Michigan from my location.
I applied in January and still no word. Hopefully soon .
I signed up a year ago and just got contracted 1 month ago
40 for 3hrs ? Never in my life gotten that.. my max 3hr flex packages has always been under 25 packages. 4hrs - 30 packages , 5hrs 35 but longer drive. My wharehouse its hard to organize it only shows AAAA , BBBB , CCCC , DDDD A & B front passenger , C & D backseat i dont waste my time like most of these drivers who spend 30-45 mins organizing. Ive been scheduling for a certain time i know when wharehouse takes thier break and everytime ive been getting no routes go home full pay 160$ 😂😂😂
Flex was by far my worst side gig experience. The places they expect you to deliver to is insane. They want you to go where USPS, UPS, and FedEX won't. lol I refused to go off roading and having to go back to return the packages just ate at any profit. This job will tear up your car unless you only are lucky enough to get residential batches.
Starting my first shift tomorrow morning 630am-930am Chesapeake VA. Hoping it goes smooth lol
How did it go ? I got mine today 😂
@@EmirIbrahim-bi1lc it actually went surprisingly well. I did have two issues. I had to deliver to a locker at an apt complex which was nice but you have to do a couple scans and the app wouldn't read the final QR code for whatever reason. I had to call support and they said it was a known glitch and that I was good to move on to the next delivery. I get to the next stop and now the scanner in the app just goes black when you try to scan anything. Called support again, told me how to do manual entries. Thank God it was the last 2 deliveries or I mightve had a bad overall experience lol. Finish route and end of day. I had a shift the following morning and the scanner in the app still went to black and wouldn't scan anything. The warehouse workers tried to help anyway they could but no one could figure it out. So finally I restarted my phone and that fixed it. That was really the only stressful part because I didn't want to hold up the line. How did it go for you?
I was told if you go over we still continue but if you are going over most likely you are being too slow or you stopped to do something else because you could get it done in time or even early. Only time i used Google maps if the amazon app is taking me to the back area of an apartment complex instead of the main entrance. The app could be wrong sometimes because it makes you make a whole uturn when you could just make a left at the light or go across the intersection.
The thing you have to remember is that you are getting the areas or shift nobody wants. There's a reason why
40 to 50 packages 😊
In Baltimore you go get your stuff
I want to switch from a dsp to this
So, how about this! My top dasher was taken away because I had a low order area and could meet the 100. My rating is 90s+
So you couldn't complete the 100 deliveries in the month? Sorry to hear that, which market?
@@YourDriverMike chula vista, CA.
The Flex navigation was horrible. We only did it once, not worth it.
Don’t go over? That’s not true. Deliver all packages every time. If u return them, your standing will be affected.
Is Amazon utilizing DoorDash as scabs for the strike . I wouldn't take any orders in that area to support the drivers myself ...
$21 per hour before expenses is pretty low. After expenses you're making probably $15 per hour or so. You can make that at McDonalds while not driving your car to the ground.
McDonald's not flexible with your hours, you get tax deductions that saves you more of your pay than a w2 job, it's a side gig so having a main job and doing it is what it's for. You not doing 40 hours a week your xar will not wear out doing 12 hours a week on avg.
@@mostmost1 I drove for Uber on weekends, I know exactly how many miles people put on their cars. Whatever you think you "save" over w2 jobs will be spent on getting new-ish cars much quicker than you would ordinarily need one.
@@zt5547 I did not say save over a w2 job. The combination saves you tax dollars. No one picking amazon flex as a main job. uber is a different monster. People using it full time with uber also can claim depreciation to their vehicles.
I just don't get why do people complain about what they signed up for🎉 at the end of the day at the end of the day you are getting paid if you're not satisfied then find something else to do
48 package
DO THE ROUTE IN REVERSE! you will end closer to your home or station!! duh!
44 packages 38 stops
35
Hey! That's my preferred location for Flex! 😊
At, that location you do go inside, bring your rack out to your parking space, and are supposed to return it. Some dashers leave them in the parking lot. 😠
I just picked up a couple of blocks, both over $100.
I recommend using Google if you're traveling far or to unknown locations. Flex Navigation often doesn't know about recent construction, accidents, etc. It also tends to tell you to make right turns, then take a u-turn, rather than just turning left...
Spokane is new, and they will bring packages out to dryvers, deliveries start august 30
Considering doing flex but what happens if You have no cell service to scan the barcode at a customer? I'm located on the east side of PA. (Pocono Mountains)
Google maps is the best .
36 drops
Thanks for watching Jesse!
30 stops, 32 packages
Bro been 4 years oh men the story’s i have lol
Craziest story?
I drive a hour almost everyday
Guess -15 stops per hour
43
67
I waited 5 years
That’s a lie when you say they navigating does that because it does not do that at all
almost a year waiting? Those are rookie numbers. I’m 3 years and counting
You must live in a smaller city
You know what they say about assuming…
for the love of god, get a phone mount
Not helpful.. your talking to much
David tracks his myles the minute he leaves home to when he returns home on Stryde
If I can't get all my drops done within the time no way I'm going all the way back to the pickup for no money.
Better than Walmart Spark. Spark pay is just terrible