Andersen A2 Electric Vehicle Charging Point Installation
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2021
- Andersen A2 Electric Vehicle Charging Point Installation.
Join Cory & Oscar as they fit an Andersen A2 Electric Vehicle Charging Point for one of our clients.
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Corys actually so funny🤣 good to see he’s got a bit of a personality
I keep asking Jordan to work on his 🤣🤣🤣
In-mic your camera man 😂😂😂 love listening to him out of breath from filming
It’s Oscars mic you can hear not the camera haha
Oscar is coming into our industry at the PERFECT time with us switching to EV's and energy saving with solar etc etc...
I wish i was 16 again and putting on my Spark uniform at this time. Im 38, i started as an apprentice in 1998. WOW, i feel old now....
Keep up the good work Oscar, you are a bright young man.
Treasure these years and keep a diary. One day you will be glad you did.
It's not a DC bus wire - it's called Charge Pilot. Used for the EVSE to tell the car how much current it's allowed to pull, an the car to tell the EVSE when to turn the mains supply on.
Great video, shows the real problem solving of cable runs, the real life situations you don't get until your faced with it on the job.
Who thinks Cory should present all of Artisans CZcams content from now on?
Haha I can just sit back and watch 👍
@@artisanelectrics Exactly it gives you time to chillax and enjoy that Tesla more 😎.
Cory has some seriously balls drilling in the cavity with his meter tails and not hittings any cables at the CU
at least 3x balls
Too risky for me 😳
I heard he cut them in half to have twice the fun.
Great video as always Jordon, good job from Cory and Oscar. Video quality is top notch also!
Cory and Oscar are a great team. Jordan will be happy for them. Thumb up!!! Cheer!
I’ve got one of those attachments in my rod set - didn’t know that’s what it was for! Thanks Cory 👍
yeah same here
Jordan.... you have trained him well, yet again brilliant work ethic and quality workmanship
Give the guy s bit more credit, he's only been shown seting up the chargers, the install methods and practices he uses are things he's picked up since he started.
What a great way to spend a wet afternoon! I love watching people working and to get a few laughs into the bargain is a real bonus. Guess the Andersen A2 EV charger is quite pricey so will probably go with the Zappi.
This is BASICALLY a brilliant video ✌🏽
Another great video from Cory!!! Keep them coming. Jordan you have got a cracking team working for you. Keep up the great work guys 👍
Thanks yeah they’re great!
Loved this video of the ev install Oscar coming along well, well done Oscar
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I enjoyed watching the video, a little bit of humor makes watching so much better !
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So much neater in the white conduit vs the black cable clips. Top work!
Excellent work guys, Great finish from a quality product
Great vid Cory and Oscar, loving the sense of humour. I have one of those work benches awesome bit of kit , thanks to Chris @ cjr. A very neat install and well thought out. I did note that he was using Jordan's Makita 😂
Another handy little trick for 'rodding' is to have a length of cord that can attach to the rod end, with a super strong ceramic magnet on the other end- then go 'fishing' with another rod with another magnet on the end of the rod- they will occasionally hang on a nail or stud plate, but when the second magnet gets near it, they go together with a bang, you can then pull the string through and then the cable- I have used this quite successfully over the years with TV antenna cables, very handy where you couldn't otherwise access the area without lifting the roof or cutting into the wall, especially in double brick cavities or at the edges of low roofs etc- you can even roll the cord around the rod to push it out to the wall cavity (like a winch drum), then 'unroll' it down inside the wall to where the other rod can grab it, and with those rare earth/ceramic magnets, they literally only have to get 'fairly' close to each other and 'bang' they stick...
Best Artisan Electrics video yet, didn't feel like anyone or anything was missing.
Thanks 😂
@@artisanelectrics you must be offended Jordan 😂😬
Cory mate, your excellent infront of the camera 👌🏼 hats off to you
When's part 2 of yesterday's video? Need to know why you had to rip everything out..
@@roydowling2542 it’s going to be next week or so now 😃 sorry 😂
@@Cablesmith yes he’s learning following the Del school of YT videos - a cliff hanger....🤣
@@mathman0101 😂😂😂
@@mathman0101 I’ve still not watched the outcome of dels cliffhanger 😂
That was a really nice and neat install!
10:25 Jordan will be really proud of that angle 😎
Yep! Thats my boy!
Now that charger looks the nuts!!!
Loved the humour. Great video
I have the same tester as you and when I was testing type A RCBO's I had the same issue with 5x trip times going over 40ms even though all of RCBO's were brand new. In the parameters and limits section of the RCD auto test section if you scroll down past "I∆N" and "Test" you will see an option called "RCD Standard", you need to set this to BS7671 as by default it's set to an IEC standard. It solved the issue for me. Great video as always.
Graham. Are you saying that the tester wasn't performing the RCD test properly? I could do with confirming the RCD issues they had at the end.....its a bit of a cliff hanger to me! 🙂
@@nomorefaith4988 I'm not 100% sure but I'm guessing that when the tester is set to the IEC standards then it applies different voltage/currents to the tests in comparison to the BS7671 setting. As soon I changed the standard to BS7671 then all of the RCBO's I tested came out at less than 40ms at 5x.
@@nomorefaith4988 Do you also have the same metrel mft?
@@user-nz4zk8vt6p Hi Graham, yeah thanks for the info. I dont have that model but Im trying to discover all hurdles before I come accross them. So thanks for the info, as you know if i came across that issue without it, I also would be standing there scratching my head. 🤔🙂👍
@@nomorefaith4988 No problem. I was scratching my head for about an hour trying to figure it out haha
Great video ! Really interesting. I wish I could find someone to work with to complete my NVQ !
Brilliant video lads and a very tidy job as well
i love the diversity of this channel with electrics and food reviews Cory and Oscar are fun to watch
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You're getting the money's worth out of those super rod accessories 😎
Cory needs his own Chanel
Such a character. If I wasn’t old enough to be his grandma I’d be needing his services.
🥰 Cory..... it’s almost Valentine’s Day too, what are the chances 👌🏼
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I bet you love the armchair comments 😁 I would have run from sofet into garage, down inside door frame then back entry to charger. Love the channel keep it up very high standards of work.
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My left ear loved this video! haha. keep up the great work!
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Oscar was on the right channel I think
What a shot, must admit I was feeling nervous about it going into the mains wiring though even though it was isolated!
the Cory & Oscar show comes complete with a cameraman now... nice.
The sign of a good work mate is when they're already preparing to do the next stage or are ready to hand you the next tool you'll need without even asking.
,Ah always wondered what the key ring bit was for, thx. Excellent vid as usual and keep the humour coming
Glad you have learnt something from our videos! 👍 and having a laugh makes it a bonus!
Loved the wit and humour in this one.... but I am sure some will not agree. :P
well done guys, neat job!
Thanks
to those in the know. The key ring trick works well on 10/16 mm singles not so efficient on twin tho. Found out the hard way the other day!
That was obviously basically a good video!
The best part is when he actually says well done to the apprentice👍
Nice job 👍
Hey @Jordan @Cory @Oscar and the rest of the gang, consider doing the next video in 8D audio. That one was a good exercise :P
Nice video just found your channel and really enjoying your content well guys
Thanks and welcome!
Another good install, Cory's starting to get really witty. Jordan did you notice Oscar's starting to get confident and was in there without being told on what he was doing.
Cory is hilarious! Great double act with Pablo too! Obviously.
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The rcd tripping issue is the fault of the metrel 3152. Mine is behaving exactly the same on testing certain brands of a-type rcds. Metrel are aware of the issue and they are trying to write a firmware update to resolve it. Mine is back with them as we speak.
Looks like Cory has learnt from the good ways of Marjorie Dawes with the Half the size / Half the calories
Oscar looks freezing or could be nerves but he is shaking like mad lol
Big brother J is watching your work 😂
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I have always tested r1+r2 with r2 connected to the earth bar due to the fact that when installing it the termination screw is on the copper and not the sleeve. I know any errors may show up on a Ze.
Great video. Instruction, no matter where it comes from is always appreciated.
👍👍👍👍 From me 💙💙💙💙 the blue snickers was looking on snickers direct last night
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Would it not have been easier to route up through the wall cavity from the CU, into the loft space and back down (next to the camera)? That way you only need to use SYJ when you exit the loft space down to the charger and the render is left untouched.
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Keep to builder's Tea, avoid the energy Crash. How many college students find that out the hard way.
Great video guys... 👍🏾👍🏾 can I ask do you have the link for the magnetic bowl used to for your screws. I have a really bad habit of putting screws down and never being able to find them again 😩. Keep up the great work lads! 👍🏾
Great video. Please do a video on Metrel Tester
great vid but the two separate wireless mics one on the left channel and one in the right made it really uncomfortable to watch because i could just hear breathing noise i my left headphone. Id recommend either setting the export to mono or only have audio from whoever is talking when you do the edit, nether the less great video.
Thanks sorry I didn’t notice that
An interesting experiment. Would be ok if both talking a lot.
The breathing was when Cory was doing his R1+R2 at the board from the camera man I think.
Cory the Comedian!
2:05 Unicorns 😆😆😆
What arrangements did you make for earthing for this installation?
23:54 my fav drink!!!!! 💪🏻
What type and size of cable was that? 6mm hituff?
Basically a good video
Obviously 😂😂😂
Interesting vid. Why was it tripping too slow though? How did you resolve it?
Since the meter box belongs to the householder, had you considered putting small consumer unit in meter box?
I thought that, where I am they usual say supplier equipment only. But sometimes you have no option
If in doubt phone the dno and tell them the door is broken on the meter box, you'll soon find out who it belongs to :)
Cory, you should be using your nice DeWalt gear! Love the diet tips! And Davo Savo would have so many comments about stiffer rods and fingering holes.... Me thinks the juicier comments got edited out... Basically, obviously... Lol And Jordan, whatever it takes hang onto Cory....
For a higher standard of car charger the connector blocks terminals are terrible cheap..
Loving Corys sense of humour.
True 😂👍
That's the same with everything, especially if style is a thing, just look at apple products, aesthetically pleasing, but a load of rubbish, designed to fail, designed to be almost impossible to fix, way of the world now.
@@nickhickson8738 can't argue there👍
That is a damned sexy charger.
Hi guys,what about an spd?Do you install them along with charging points?
you can really taste the silica - contractor vibes
is 2phase 230v intakes normal in the UK? or is it an older house? do you have any TN 400v on residential?
Nice job, hope nobody comes along later to fit soffit downlights!
Haha thanks
Handy that in Norway all cable's done in walls are in rewireable conduit
Amen
Same in Spain, been doing it for decades. Think its the same in all of Europe I think.
Very nice. What happened with the slow RCD trip? Also that cable looked like 2.5mm (maybe not?), is that ok for 7.2kW charger?
The cable was most likely a 4mm. NYY-J cables are solid conductors even for 4mm. The run was pretty short and not surrounded by insulation so sufficient for 32 A
@@Martin71209 Many thanks for that, didn't realise those cables were solid up to 4mm.
This video by GSH explains the problem of delayed trip times with type A RCCB’s and Gaz also explains what to do about it.
czcams.com/video/c0dPUf_aZ4E/video.html
@@DavidSmith-zg7wk Many thanks David, that was interesting. They seemed to be suggesting the issue they were experiencing (and the workaround) was particular to the Hagar type A device they were testing - or did I interpret that incorrectly, is this a common issue for type A devices?
@@rossthompson1635 Not sure Ross but it does makes you wonder.
Great video, I've been following you guys for a while, did you manage to investigate the issue with the RCD trip time on the Andersen unit?
I was wondering the same exact thing?
Jesus, Cory is hilarious! 😅
(But who is Pablo?)
Hi there i have been fitting many Andersen units. The RCDs constantly fail and i have had to resort to upstream type a rcds on all installs. This is from advice by Andersen themselves they say they now always add upstream protection on there in-house installs. How did you overcome the issues wit trip time? I wish they could make this public to advise us contractors that the additional protection is required.
Apparently they pass when tested in a lab. Everyone I have fitted failed the trip times in some way.
why not lift a fewv roof tiles and feed the cable across the loft space and maybe fish the cable down the cavity to the charger?
agreed not sure if I was the customer I would be too happy they smash my soffit to bits apart from that great video
In Italy we use flexible pvc or plastic conduit for the installation so if you need some day to make some changes you can take that conduits in the wall and of course our wires are flexible to we don’t use the rigid wires anymore. But good job 👍
Just an Idea about the rcd trip tines :
Since it there isn't an actual rcd in the device, but from what i can hear it's a contactor switching off when the sensing circuit detects the leakage, it's probably over 60ms because the contactor is not fast enough to match a spring loaded rcd (Plus the added delay from the sensing circuit)
(disclaimer: I'm not a certified electrician nor do i know anything about ev charging so don't crucify me, and do not consider this as an answer to the question as it might be completely wrong)
What happened with the RCD trip times?
21:37 Cory 'drilled up the bottom' 😋
Excellent channel and information for electricians. Aside from price what would you recommend and install on your own home between Zappi and Andersen?
I would install Zappi at my home and have done so
@@artisanelectrics I use Zappi frequently but have not installed an Andersen product yet. They do look very nice tho, thanks for the reply 👍🏼
Small snap link does same job as split ring and easier to get on!
For those wondering re the keyring.. its looped AROUND and follows the path of the original cable? Hmm sounds OK but in practice?🙄😂😂 Sometimes it works but !! Eaves can be wood AND they can be problematic. It is not uncommon in older buildings for the eaves to be rotten or rotting. You can't fix clips, cables to etc whereas plastic (newer clip together units) are sometimes easier to tuck cables etc in behind out of sight. Insulation testing also known as the Megger tester helps ensure the cables don't suffer from what is known as 'leakage'. Interesting that second hand appliances sold through charity shops etc have within UK law to carry a mark of certification as having been tested. Offices and other commercial/industrial services where staff use ie kettles, other have to have their equipment tested once ever year and a sticker attached to show that has been carried out. 👍 Its always when doing an assessment prior to work installing to do a physical check as well as a visual one AND to go over with the customer what you propose to do. IF they don't want you to do something a certain way etc then you can compromise or simply DON'T do it. Luckily using that conduit was a good choice and it is out of sight from the main entrance etc. On a wing and a prayer guys drilling next to that security camera? 👀Good practice to inform the customer that you are about to turn the power back on. Also I never flip the switches on to the ON position before engaging the main power switch??!! Having the customer turn off BEFORE you turn off the power any devices such as boilers, heaters, cookers etc and then when you restore power turning them back on NOT leaving them all on! 😶👀Stay safe guys!
Im looking to get a EV charge point fitted later this year but still have an old style fuse box I stead of consumer unit. Would you recommend changing the whole fuse box to a consumer unit during the install or just fit a mini consumer unit for the ev point. Thanks
We would recommend the following:
1. Have an EICR done
2. Upgrade the consumer unit and add the EV Charger at the same time.
3. Feel safe and secure knowing your electrics are all up to scratch! 👍
Give us a call if you want a quote.
@@artisanelectrics thanks but it might be a little expensive given 200 or so miles you'd have to cover to get here 😉
34:09 - You didn't have the black plastic guard on the tip commander, are supposed to only have 4mm exposed tip exposed when live testing. preferably 2mm
You might of got away by disconnecting the main cpc in the meter cupboard fix a draw cable and pulling the cable out of the dist board 👍
That's risky, imagine not being able to get in back in.
@@acelectricalsecurity not really,you can tell straight away if it is going to be a problem but must be worth a go,nut I see your point 👍
Is it possible to test the RCD without the EV load?
White copex coming out of the bottom on the conduit would of looked slightly better than the NYY-J I think and this cable route looks like it should be protected by a 30ma RCD.
I couldn't see where it was in a wall less than 50mm, looked like timber frame, why the RCD?
That Anderson charger is literally four times the size of my EO Mini Pro 😂😂
And 6 times the price ?
great install just a pity that you had to run the cable on the outside even if it was in a conduit such a hi-aesthetic charger the correct color as the wall the cable should have been totally hidden.
So did you just leave it at tripping twice the tripping time
Just fitted my first Andersen A2 , can't seem to do Zs without the unit tripping. Is this a quirk common to Andersen. Noticed Cory didn't do Zs through the unit either.
Yeah you cant do it, just have to do R1 & R2 and calculate Zs
Did you resolve the issue of it not tripping in time?
Suspense is a bugger ! 😩
What shades have you on?
A spirit level never used on the conduit next to the door and charger? But a great video
I reckon that cable needs RCD protection once it is inside the soffit.
I don’t think it will, which reg are you thinking of?
@@cumberland1234 522.6.202? It depends whether being in the soffit is considered to be concealed in a wall, but I'd take the view that once the cable is hidden, it is vulnerable to being drilled or nailed through. I guess you could argue that as it isn't fixed, it might just be pushed out of the way.
@@NickW1111 under floorboards doesn’t need RCD protection for impact reasons so I’d have thought that it isn’t needed in soffits
@@cumberland1234 Thanks - I wasn’t sure how to treat that.
Regs for cables buried in walls is less than 50mm to avoid drilling or screwing through cables when fixing things to the walls.